Hallo zusammen,
so dann will ich mal von meinem Ausflug in die PUMP & DUMP Welt berichten.
Natürlich auf der Seite von Fairpumps.net gewesen, aber cleverer Weise nicht im Web-IRC sondern mit nem eigenen IRC-Client (mIRC) in den Chanel. Erstmal wurde der Chanel nochmal gewechselt, dann im #Bittrex_burst. War pünktlich da um 21 Uhr.
Auffällig war das viele im Channel schon vorher versucht haben irgendwelche dubiosen Coins zu Hyphen und viele neue User da waren.
Hier wurden ganz bewußt falsche Info's in den Chanel gestreut. - Okay dafür kann fairpumps.net grundsätzlich nix, aber es ist schon bitter wenn sich jemand als Neuling outet und dann so kraß verarscht wird ala "Halte den Coin min. 2 Std." - "Verkaufe erst wenn der Preis bei dem 10 - 15-fachen des Einkaufpreis ist." - "Wir bauen eine Wall." - "Hier wirst Du reich." - "Ich gehe heute mit 5, 10, 50, 80
BTC in den Pump." und so weiter und so fort. Gesprochen wurde nur englisch, türkisch und arabisch. - ICh hatte mal am Anfang zaghaft gefragt ob auch deutschsprachige User da sind und bekam gleich ein "I hope not. We hate germans." um die Ohren. - Okay, ich muß mich nicht unterhalten ... von da an nur beobachtet.
Anyway, irgendwann (aber eigentlich auch schon verspätet wegen irgendwelcher Probleme mit dem Bot) wurde der Initial-Block von Doge ermittelt. Dann war erstmals wieder nur Laberei im Chanel und das Hyphen von Kennt-Keine-Sau-Coins. Einen Block vor dem finalen Start-Schuß-Block wurde dann die Liste der möglichen Coins veröffentlicht.
New block #1698384 released! First character of block #1698385 's hash will determine coin to pump (compare https://dogechain.info) according to list:
0 : ENRG | 1 : KORE | 2 : LMC | 3 : NXC | 4 : PKB | 5 : SNRG | 6 : SWIFT | 7 : TRUST | 8 : ENRG | 9 : KORE | A : LMC | B : NXC | C : PKB | D : SNRG | E : SWIFT | F : TRUST |
Zu diesem Zeitpunkt waren ca. 410 Leute im Chanel und einige schon kurz vorm Nervenzusammenbruch, da die Seite zeitweise offline (Error 503) war und meist 2-3 Blöcke hinter dem IRC-Chanel her hinkte. - Außerdem sind natürlich immer wieder Leute aus dem Chat gefallen (System disconnect - timeout). - Da lobe ich mir meinen mIRC.
Um 23:08:42 war es soweit, der Finale-Block wurde gefunden und der Coin stand fest. - Nr. 2 : LMC aka Lomocoin.
Und nur 1,5 Sekunden später ging der Pump los. Von 0.00001590
BTC bis auf 0.00006990
BTC. Ich habe sofort meine Order mit 0.12
BTC zum "Last Price" plaziert. Leider wurde meine Order erst um 23:10:32 ausgeführt.
Da war dann der Preis bei 0.00006000
BTC wofür ich ~ 2000 LMC bekommen habe.
Natürlich gleich versucht eine SELL_order zu platzieren, aber bis die Webseite soweit war Stand der Kurs schon wieder bei ca. 0.00002300
BTC. - Da habe ich es dann gelassen.
Somit bin ich jetzt stolzer Besitzer von 2069 LMC oder sind es LMAA ?
Egal, mir war das Risiko klar und ich hatte mit einem Totalverlust gerechnet.
Abschließend kann ich sagen, daß es im Chat dann Gerüchte gab das um 22:30 Uhr jemand schon 1 Million LMC gekauft hatte. Ob das so ist, kann ich nicht beurteilen, auch kann ich nicht sagen ob fairpumps.net SCAM ist. Aber der Verdacht liegt sehr nahe, zumal man die Liste der Möglichen Coins nur 1 Block vor dem finalen Block veröffentlicht. - Die, die die Liste festlegen sind natürlich klar im Vorteil. De facto habe ich 0.12
BTC verbrannt und man hat ohne Bot 0%-Chance. - Im übrigen haben auch viele im Chat dann beim großen Heulen gesagt wieviel Sie verloren haben. - Meist zwischen 300 € und 4 BTC. - Tja, auch das kann ich nicht prüfen / belegen.
Zur allgemeinen Erheiterung hier noch Screenshots.
Hier dann mal noch einige relevante Chat-Verläufe, auch lange nach dem Pump ...
[23:25] <~you_pump> VOLUME and PRICE of LMC still rising guys
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[23:25] <~you_pump> longpump time
[23:25] <~you_pump> second push
[23:25] <~you_pump> 80btc vol already
[23:32] <~you_pump> if you want to participate in longpumps: join us here: fairpumps.net/join
3[00:07] * you_pump sets mode: -m
[00:07] <~you_pump> ok
[00:07] <~you_pump> not unmuted again
[00:07] <~you_pump> unmuted again
[00:08] <pumper|11826> ...
[00:08] <pumper|33509> that escalated wuickly
[00:08] <pumper|33509> to say the least
[00:34] <pumper|33509> jk
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[00:34] <pumper|33509> so
[00:34] <pumper|33509> how it goes for you?
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[00:34] <Marcin> 05/01/2017 11:11:24 PM 05/01/2017 10:35:23 PM Limit Buy 0.00000990 10075.75757576 10075.75757576 0.00000989 -0.09999937
[00:34] <Marcin> Bought LMC at 990 sat :)
[00:35] <pumper|33509> i dont get how it goes so fast
[00:35] <pumper|33509> when i checked lmc 2 sec after announcement, it was already +250%, didn't enter
[00:35] <pumper|33509> scam?
[00:35] <Marcin> Hahah yesterday
[00:35] <Marcin> Isn't SCAM
[00:35] <pumper|33509> yesterday what?
[00:36] <pumper|33509> they must have bot to buy in
[00:36] <pumper|11826> they bought yesterday...
[00:36] <Marcin> yep
[00:36] <pumper|11826> but that is how it works
[00:36] <pumper|33509> they bought yesterday so its a scam because they weren't supposed to know the coin
[00:37] <Marcin> OMG
[00:37] <Marcin> look at hash id
[00:37] <Marcin> 0 : ENRG | 1 : KORE | 2 : LMC | 3 : NXC | 4 : PKB | 5 : SNRG | 6 : SWIFT | 7 : TRUST 8 : ENRG | 9 : KORE | A : LMC | B : NXC | C : PKB | D : SNRG | E : SWIFT | F : TRUST
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[00:37] <mib_4w4x33> No comment https://twitter.com/CafeMoneyPL/status/859533197675286529
[00:37] <pumper|11826> we are greedy... and other people pro in this.... start with less money, learn first
[00:37] <pumper|33509> so how did the bought yesterday? they poor money in every single shitcoin existing?
[00:37] <mib_4w4x33> wtf ?
[00:38] <mib_4w4x33> how is possible mates?
[00:38] <mib_4w4x33> No comment https://twitter.com/CafeMoneyPL/status/859533197675286529
[00:38] <pumper|49738> why wasn't the coinlist published in the header?
[00:39] <Marcin> mib PL
[00:39] <pumper|33509> i dont care, i didn't enter
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[00:39] <pumper|11826> i did :D
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[00:40] <pumper|33509> still, the second it was announced it was up 250%
[00:40] <pumper|33509> whatever they may bought yesterday, it was still low
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[00:40] <pumper|11826> and lost.... $500 0.35btc
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[00:40] <pumper|3935> lost .025
[00:41] <pumper|33509> i won money because i sold GNT to BTC and it dipped down meanwhile, thanks fairscam
[00:41] <pumper|11826> totally right pumper|33509
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[00:42] <pumper|33509> ok, so we as spectator will investigate this shit and make a nice posts cross subreddit
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[00:43] <pumper|11826> yeah
[00:43] <pumper|11826> thumbs up
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[00:44] <pumper|33509> We can fuck up all your futur pumps and dumps
[00:45] <pumper|20538> c'mon
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[00:45] <pumper|20538> where is second push
[00:45] <pumper|20538> 9~10 o clock?
[00:45] <~you_pump> how can we prebuy
[00:45] <~you_pump> ... we dont know the selected coin either
[00:45] <~you_pump> it is selected by blockchain
[00:45] <pumper|49738> I thought the coinlist was supposed to be released in the header one block prior to the target block?
[00:46] <~you_pump> it was
[00:46] <~you_pump> look above
[00:46] <~you_pump> coinbot announced in IRC
[00:46] <pumper|49738> it's empty
[00:46] <~you_pump> the header box wasnt updated on time due to website overload
[00:46] <pumper|49738> lol
[00:46] <~you_pump> but coinbot announced list as always
[00:46] <pumper|84574> Idonseecoin list either, coinbot fucked upagain!!!
[00:47] <~you_pump> it didn't
[00:47] <~you_pump> look above
[00:47] <~you_pump> list was announced before target
[00:47] <pumper|49738> it's not there
[00:47] <~you_pump> New block #1698384 released! First character of block #1698385 's hash will determine coin to pump (compare https://dogechain.info) according to list: 0 : ENRG | 1 : KORE | 2 : LMC | 3 : NXC | 4 : PKB | 5 : SNRG | 6 : SWIFT | 7 : TRUST | 8 : ENRG | 9 : KORE | A : LMC | B : NXC | C : PKB | D : SNRG | E : SWIFT | F : TRUST |
[00:47] <pumper|33509> you pump, how can the coin can be +250% exactly 1,5 sec after the announcement?
[00:47] <~you_pump> Pump will start on next block release!!!!!!!
[00:47] <pumper|49738> ok. why isn't in the header?
[00:47] <~you_pump> look above
[00:48] <pumper|49738> you just typed that
[00:48] <~you_pump> header couldnt be updated as website was down during announcement because 400 ppl refreshing
[00:48] <~you_pump> you can check above
[00:48] <pumper|84574> https://i.imgur.com/9G5TOAH.png?1 I dont see coinlist
[00:48] <~you_pump> look in IRC history
[00:49] <~you_pump> not in header
[00:49] <~you_pump> in irc history
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[00:49] <pumper|33509> you pump, what your bot to buy in milliseconds after announcement?
[00:49] <pumper|84574> previously it was shown in heder too, i was looking in to header, website fucked up
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[00:50] <~you_pump> this can happen
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[00:50] <pumper|33509> anybody actually made money? (except the scammers)
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[00:51] <Marcin> i made 0.8BTC
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[00:52] <pumper|33509> Marcin its not possible
[00:52] <Marcin> why
[00:52] <mib_4w4x33> http://miburl.com/5gaSsT
[00:53] <mib_4w4x33> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-2s35sXcAASktU.jpg:large
[00:53] <mib_4w4x33> how is possible jump in 3 sec from 1500 sat to 5000 ?
[00:53] <Marcin> 400 ppl in chat
[00:54] <Marcin> ~100 btc vol
[00:54] <~you_pump> a lot of people buying syncronously
[00:54] <Marcin> possible :)
[00:54] <~you_pump> so price spikes a lot
[00:54] <mib_4w4x33> @Marcin jak to jest możliwe że w 3 sekundy zmienia się cena z 1500 na 5000?
[00:54] <pumper|33509> marcin is part of the scammer
[00:54] <~you_pump> but we will change some things to prevent bot usage on our future pumps
[00:54] <pumper|33509> he is lying
[00:54] <pumper|33509> just look at the starting price
[00:54] <pumper|33509> you said you bought under 10
[00:55] <pumper|33509> 09
[00:55] <pumper|33509> it hasn't been this low since several days
[00:55] <mib_4w4x33> scam? https://twitter.com/CafeMoneyPL/status/859533197675286529
[00:55] <Marcin> no pisałem ze jest duzo ludzi i kazdy klika buy
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[00:55] <~you_pump> believe it or not: there are people actually trading on Bittrex... even before a pump
[00:55] <pumper|33509> you can't prevent bot usage
[00:56] <pumper|11826> my first opportunity to buy was 0.00006079 (after 2-3 seconds)
[00:56] <~you_pump> we put coinlist in a encrypted unchangable pastebin
[00:56] <~you_pump> and release password for it on announcement
[00:56] <~you_pump> so coinlist is hidden but unchangable before pump
[00:56] <~you_pump> bots don't have access to it
[00:56] <pumper|33509> and you, not using a bot is unbelievable, why would you risk money, organising a pump for strangers? Are you a philantropist?
[00:56] <~you_pump> and pumping gets fair again
[00:57] <~you_pump> i risk money, and i lose too
[00:57] <~you_pump> believe it or not
[00:57] <~you_pump> sometimes win sometimes lose
[00:57] <~you_pump> it's gambling
[00:57] <pumper|11826> true.....
[00:57] <pumper|11826> like casino
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[00:58] <pumper|11826> house always wins, and 5% of the rest of the people
[00:58] <pumper|84574> can you show us that pastebin with coin list?
[00:58] <pumper|11826> 95% will lose..
[00:58] <~you_pump> we use pastebin method on next pump
[00:58] <pumper|11826> but if you like to gamble, its ok
[00:58] <pumper|33509> that makes no sense, so organise longer pump
[00:58] <pumper|33509> free longer pump
[00:58] <evilosxxx> Marcin a Ty win czy lose
[00:58] <pumper|33509> i won't pay 0,419 btc after what i have saw
[00:59] <pumper|33509> 0,49
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[00:59] <pumper|84574> so we have to enter password, and then pump, or it will be shown here?
[00:59] <pumper|33509> a real pump aint that mess
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[01:01] <pumper|11826> why pay 0.49 btc?
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[01:01] <Marcin> evilosxxx do przodu 0.8
[01:01] <pumper|11826> then you know what to buy 1hour before it pumps? :P
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[01:02] <evilosxxx> a za ile wchodziles
[01:02] <Marcin> tyle samo :)
[01:03] <Marcin> wczoraj kupiłem za 0.1 a dziś za 0.7
[01:03] <pumper|11826> huh? :D
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[01:04] <Marcin> 05/02/2017 11:10:31 PM 05/02/2017 11:10:27 PM Limit Sell 0.00006949 23705.48056422 23705.48056422 0.00006948 1.64317561
[01:04] <Marcin> my LMXC sell order
[01:05] <Marcin> LMC
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[01:05] <kawasaki> jakies profity?
[01:07] <Marcin> dla wszstkich nie moze starczyc :)
[01:07] <kawasaki> no nie
[01:07] <kawasaki> ale znaczy sie straciles?
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[01:08] <Marcin> do przodu 0.8
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[01:08] <kawasaki> no to git, ale pewnie bez pomocy naukowych sie nie obeszlo
[01:08] <Marcin> jakich
[01:09] <kawasaki> no jakies automaty
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[01:09] <kawasaki> a z ilu wyciagnales to 0.8?
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[01:09] <pumper|99642> lets get to work
[01:09] <pumper|82141> Pump fail or pump bail ?
[01:10] <Marcin> z 0.8
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[01:10] <pumper|99642> pump failed
[01:10] <kawasaki> no to +100% to spoko
[01:10] <Marcin> zadne automaty
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[01:10] <kawasaki> a jak?
[01:10] <pumper|99642> pump lasted for only fifteen minutes
[01:10] <kawasaki> sam latales po bittrexie i tworzyles zlecenia?
[01:10] <pumper|33509> you can't win without bots
[01:11] <pumper|33509> 15 minutes ???
[01:11] <pumper|99642> yes
[01:11] <pumper|33509> it was like 20 sec
[01:11] <Marcin> komputer jest madrzejszy ale nie ma zdrowego rozsądku
[01:11] <pumper|99642> 15 minutes
[01:11] <Marcin> :)
[01:11] <pumper|33509> are you mad
[01:11] <pumper|33509> it pumped for 10 sec and dumpend
[01:11] <pumper|33509> dumped
[01:11] <kawasaki> ale tu trzeba szybkosc a nie zdrowy rozsadek ;)
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[01:12] <pumper|33509> i think im going to organise pump events
[01:12] <pumper|84574> do it
[01:12] <Marcin> walczyles cos
[01:12] <pumper|99642> really
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[01:12] <kawasaki> ja tam marne +14%
[01:12] <Marcin> wazne ze +
[01:12] <kawasaki> no tak :)
[01:12] <pumper|99642> listowellappiah1@gmail.com
[01:13] <pumper|11826> pumper|33509 whoohoo
[01:13] <pumper|99642> contact me so i join your pump on any day
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[01:13] <pumper|48110> helo
[01:13] <pumper|11826> hi
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[01:13] <pumper|48110> everyone loses ahahahah
[01:14] <pumper|11826> almost everyone ;-)
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[01:14] <pumper|33509> well, people are greedy, so ill just throw a pump event with enough marketing im sure people will enter even without any "fair pump" process
[01:16] <Marcin> You think this pump is dishonest ?
[01:16] <pumper|33509> yes it is, its a well made scam
[01:16] <Marcin> why
[01:16] <Marcin> Show me proof
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[01:17] <pumper|48110> ive watched 2 and both times when coin is announced its pre pumped and and its already dropping
[01:17] <pumper|33509> lucky few noobs might have made a bit of money, but the organiser are well geared and took 90% of profits
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[01:18] <pumper|48110> whoever owns this site is unloading huge profits to us as we lose
[01:18] <pumper|33509> most of the money is pumped instantly
[01:18] <@PumpitLOUD> no scam here
[01:18] <pumper|33509> well use decentraliser free exchanges
[01:18] <pumper|33509> d
[01:18] <pumper|33509> yes scam
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[01:19] <pumper|33509> why dont you explain how you process?
[01:19] <pumper|48110> not one person can prove they are winning ever
[01:19] <pumper|33509> people are winning
03[01:19] * you_pump sets mode: +m
[01:19] <~you_pump> guys cya on Thursay!
Hier noch eine Analyse auf Twitter -->
KLICKGruß Carsten.
P.S.: Wer sich das Elend mal live ansehen will ... der nächste Pump & Dump ist am Donnerstag. - Allerdings ohne mich.
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