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101  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Cryptocurrency threatens governments on: September 19, 2018, 07:50:29 AM
Over the years cryptocurrency  has evolved into a global currency but governments are trying to sweep it's relevancy under the carpet. We all know that the eyes of the community are now opened to the importance and blockchain technology.

What baffles me is why are the government making lives difficult by banning or limiting it's use? Is it because it threatens the political power or are they scared it will improve the global economy or force the traditional banks to reduce their ridiculous interests rate which we have been robbed of for decades now.

What is your take on this and what do you think will make governmental bodies to finally accept crypto?
I think the first is the security issues. Crypto has good information security. Since then it has been exploited for illegal activities. Not many cases of money laundering or drug dealing with crypto has been exposed. This leaves the government feeling lost of control, despite the fact that there are no legitimate transactions.
102  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin Worth To Be Currency? on: September 18, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
Discuss about bitcoin and cryptocurrency. For me, this is an interesting topic because bitcoin issues are often the talk, including confusion in many quarters. What is cryptocurrency? What is bitcoin? How does the regulator respond to the development of the current crypto currency? And how is the bitcoin phenomenon going forward?

In its purest form, cryptocurrency or crypto currency is a kind of electronic cash that can be sent directly from person to person (peer-to-peer) without going through financial institutions, or banks. Generally if we are currently sending funds or money to other parties, of course, must be processed through the bank. In this case, the bank serves as an intermediary. Well in this crypto technology, the payment is made directly without an intermediary. Transactions conducted between two parties in a network are then verified through a specific encoding process or cryptography. Well, Bitcoin is one of the existing cryptocurrency types, and is popular. In addition to Bitcoin there are more than a few crypto currencies similar to various names, such as ethereum, litecoin, etc. Many of these crypto currencies are short of devotees until they die one by one. In Bitcoin, if there are transactions of two persons, the other party in the network that can decode or verify the occurrence of the transaction, will be rewarded with bitcoin. This step is known as mining bitcoin (mining).

From what I've learned before, that David Yermack, researcher at the Bureau of Economic Research, New York University (2016) that bitcoin still fails to meet the criteria as a currency. It cites the basic functions of a currency, the medium of exchange, the a store of value, and the unit of account. Of the three criteria, bitcoin does not qualify as money. Yermack doubts that bitcoin can be a currency or means of payment acceptable to today's audiences. I agree with the analysis. If we look at bitcoin volatility in recent years is very high, much higher than the existing currency. This has an impact on the difficulty of calculating the short-term risks of bitcoin. In addition, the exchange rate of bitcoin in the day to day does not correlate at all with any currency in the world, nor with commodities such as gold for example. This makes bitcoin useless in risk management and difficult for the owner to hedge.

Let's look at one by one the money function on bitcoin for more details. First, as a medium of exchange. Bitcoin has no intrinsic value, so its value will depend largely on its usefulness in the economy or consumption. But in reality, today is still very small parties who use bitcoin in everyday life to make various payments. Few traders (merchants) are willing to accept bitcoin. Some countries such as Japan, for example, allow bitcoin to be used as a means of payment (not as legal tender or legal currency). But if we go to Japan, just a few, not to say very little, the store is willing to accept payment with bitcoin. Especially in other countries, including Indonesia. In other words, payments using bitcoins are currently very rare.

Second, as a unit of account. For users or buyers, we certainly look for ease in buying goods. For example, a bowl of chicken noodles cost Rp 25 thousand, a cup of coffee costs Rp 15 thousand. This will make it easy to calculate. But in the use of bitcoin, various problems arise, mainly due to its extreme volatility. The value of bitcoin can vary drastically from minute to minute. This makes it difficult for the seller to determine the price of an item. In addition, there is no uniform or fixed market price associated with bitcoin. I also tried to check on some bitcoin markets around the world, and the prices vary. This disparity, in the theory of market value, violates the law of one price for a currency. Why breaking? Because it is open most likely people to do arbitrage in the same market (buy cheap and sell high in commodities and the same time).

Third, as a store of value. When a currency serves as a store of value, the owner certainly has the expectation that the currency he holds can be obtained easily and can be redeemed for future goods or services as needed. The economic value of goods or services purchased in the future is expected to be equal to the money used or stored now.

From the above analysis it can be seen that Bitcoin, according to Yarmeck (2016), still can not meet the criteria as money because it has the deficiencies as above. Generally people currently hold bitcoin instead of being used as a means of payment, but rather to speculative investment. Bitcoin is also increasingly difficult to accept because it is disconnected with the payment system and banking in many countries, because most authorities in the world forbid it to be used as a means of payment.
I think it is worth it. It has some advantages over paper money. Why not think it will be able to effectively support paper money if it is considered a currency? It may be another option for users to pay or manage assets. Direct deals do not require a third party with much time and unnecessary costs.
103  Other / Off-topic / Re: crypto in the present moment? on: September 18, 2018, 03:17:08 PM
hello guy!
I find that near people are always worried and afraid of the future of crypto, when we invest in the crypto market, we also know the market will fluctuate up and down and its risk, I think it is Often, most of us are going to HODL and buy more when they think it's touching bottom, there are some people selling them, I think that's the decision of you and no what wrong. WHY EVERYONE DOES NOT PATIENT AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF IN YOUR DECISION? This is what is happening now because there is NO reason for this sudden drop in the price? Hold onto those coins as long as you can, because these greedy bastards will manipulate the markets to cause chaos and panic and wait for the green boom to return.
Selling now is not reasonable at all so I keep it. Wait and patience a higher price. I did not wait in vain. Few predictions have shown a positive outlook for crypto in the coming months. It is now also a good time to invest in altcoins. Euthereum and Litecoins. It can bring you high profits in the upcoming price rises.
104  Economy / Economics / Re: Are fiat currencies necessary in the world? on: September 17, 2018, 08:48:34 AM
in the future, will there really be a need for fiat currency? Government can collect taxes in crypto, determine how to allocate it, and spend it in crypto. Ppl can receive salaries and do all commerce using crypto. Loans can be done in crypto. Fundraising can be in crypto. Sure, problems have to be worked out in terms of scalability, does it have to be completely decentralized, etc, the value has to become more stable. But theoretically, is there any reason to have fiat in the future?

It has been established that governments can now do taxation without representation by printing more money (which is a tax on everyone holding the currency), instead of trying to get a bill passed that allows it to increase the tax rate. With crypto this would be no more. All increased taxation would have to pass a vote.

From an economic standpoint, the idea that a country can stimulate its economy by adjusting interest rates is tenuous. There is just as strong an argument that lowering interest rates has caused speculation and bubbles, with calamitous results. In a crypto market economy, capital will flow from where it is needed less to where it is needed more.
I think fiat currency is always needed. Bitcoin will probably grow brighter but to completely replace the currency it will not. It is a new alternative in the way of asset management as well as transactions. It will develop by doing things that paper money does not work. Generally fiat currency will always be needed.
105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks will always be against cryptocurrencies? on: September 17, 2018, 08:38:12 AM
No, I do not believe that. We must admit that what has allowed banks to acquire so much economic power is their ability to understand where capital is, and make the necessary efforts to keep it.

Knowing that banks will never fight against capital, what I see today is a growing interest of banks to incorporate blockchain technologies into their processes, and because of their marked interest in taking over everyone's money, it would not be strange that in the near future we will see banks willing to accept cryptocurrencies to carry out financial transactions.
There may be a few banks supporting Bitcoin. But not so that you can believe that all banks do it. Actually banks will not be able to function as before Bitcoin appears. A fee will be deducted from the previous transaction. Bitcoin can perform this function more effectively for users.
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the King of ICO, Do you agree? on: September 16, 2018, 06:03:57 PM
If Bitcoin is king of cryprocurrency, then Ethereum is the king of all ICOs ,do you agree?  Stella,neo and no other blockchain has hosted ICO than Ethereum.
ETH is a lot of favorite startups to use and I highly appreciate that. But I think the ICO projects under the NEO platform will be better. Everything is very strict and always new. I think ETH is not as good as NEO in terms of quality.
107  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin and altcoin on: September 16, 2018, 08:52:00 AM
in these days bitcoin had a strong rise, but the other coins seem to be standing at the stake, is there a reason?
do you think that the whole market can be resumed? or will most of the altcoins fail in these months? sorry for my english=)
I think altcoins this month will not change much. But another few months may be another story and I'm still keeping my altcoins. Euthereum and Litecoins. These potential altcoins. They are expected to increase sharply in the next few months and it will be a breeze if you now try to sell them in a hurry.
108  Economy / Economics / Re: what is the future of virtual currency like bitcoin ? on: September 15, 2018, 12:33:19 PM
As a digital payment system virtual currency has its own reputation. Bitcoin raised as strong virtual currency in 2010. Today’s global currency is developed in different way and comparing with others currency bitcoin is like more valuable than gold. Good reflection and better control system can make more valuable in economic sector. now by the help of bitcoin selling and buying system is easier than other transection. At age of technology we can collect or hire so many proficient worker for the purpose of different sector’s development and then we can provide their salary through bitcoins because of its popularity.
On above this conversation we don’t need to worry about future of  virtual currency or bitcoins.
I think Bitcoin has a future. It can be more widely accepted now. It can grow to exist in parallel with paper money. It will support the weaknesses of paper money. Do what the paper money has not done well and it is possible development path for Bitcoin. It has outstanding features in the transaction and everyone has seen.
109  Economy / Economics / Re: Simply predict the future of bitcoin on: September 14, 2018, 11:18:59 AM
According to the k-line of 2011-2017, the major bull markets are basically those that rise after a super rally and then go back a year to two years later.


When should the chance of tuen mun be this time?


Feel like there's a half-year down period?


While history will not simply repeat itself, shouldn't the bull market come so soon?


The ICO bubble is pretty bad.
I expect Bitcoi will rebound this year and should not sell them. Retention is likely to bring higher returns in the future. Bitcoin always shows its ability and that's why it can come back with high profits. It is not unreasonable to expect Bitcoin to be strong this year.
110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in going down, is it bad...? on: September 14, 2018, 11:11:57 AM
Bitcoin is now at about 6k$...

I bought tons of bitcoin when the price was at 3k$ and then sold at about 17k$, I made profits then, but now I don't think that the price can go up again...
Will it?
I think it will come back. You can earn higher profits again if you are more patient. Bitcoin is expected to rise in this year and you should expect that. This is where you should keep your Bitcoin number. It will be difficult to buy if you sell them.
111  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin will control the world economy!!!!! is it true? on: September 13, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
Some media shows that bitcoin can be the next weapon to control the world economy. i think it is true and it will be seen soon. 
I have another opinion. Bitcoin will develop in the future but full control of the economy is what it will not do. It can exist with paper money as a solution to a wide variety of transaction modes for users. Bitcoin obviously has some great features but sometimes it's one of those features that may be loopholes. For example, it's a good security and people can use it to launder money.
112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can you use Bitcoin as a practical currency? on: September 13, 2018, 02:54:57 PM
Hello All, I have a question.
If I want to use bitcoin as practical or daily currency then what should I do?
Is American express or VISA offer such kind of opportunity so far?
I am very excited to read something special here: https://reliable.cash/t/can-you-use-bitcoin-as-a-practical-currency/33
Specially these are amazing to me:

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There are many reasons for bitcoin to be not used as a practical currency. Some are listed here.

  • Some users lack the infrastructure required to use bitcoin
    Some users lack the knowledge required to use bitcoin
    It will not be a good solution for day to day purchase
    It takes time to process a transaction that is why it is not practical at all
    Not many stores accept bitcoin as a payment either online or offline
    Stability in pricing
    Strong network infrastructure required for its payment to process


Now I want to purchase my Pizza using Bitcoin Cheesy
What do you think brothers?
You want to use Bitcoin as a real currency but that can not be determined by you. Only when businesses accept their Bitcoin business will your wish come true. There are many people who are interested in Bitcoin, but it still does not guarantee that it can hold steady assets like paper money.
113  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do with the current market? on: September 12, 2018, 07:49:01 AM

Looking at the current market, many people are disappointed in the market price, bitcoin prices stomping at the $ 7000 level, altcoin prices are falling deeply. Recent good news, however, shows that the market continues to grow and has great potential in the future. What would you do this time: Buy bitcoin, buy altcoin or do nothing?
I still have the altcoins I have and intend to buy more. With Bitcoin, I'm still waiting for it to rise. Altcoins is now more attractive to me in terms of its future profitability as it rises. Euthereum and Litecoins will not disappoint me. It is always the potential alcoins and the next time it will be at it's further development.
114  Economy / Speculation / Re: will the price of the bitcoin will reach so high that no one can buy it ? on: September 12, 2018, 07:35:12 AM
now only the price is little high , i think the value of the coin in future days may reach so high so that it would become so expensive to buy it
because now the people in the world started learning about bitcoin may it become popular 
I do not think Bitcoin prices are so high that no one can afford it. If it suits their investment strategy, there will never be a price that is too high. If the Bitcoin price is too high, it will kill its future. Not relevant, but it is possible Bitcoin prices will rise in the near future and now is the time to invest in it especially when it is decreasing.
115  Economy / Economics / Re: How did Crypto help you out? on: September 10, 2018, 02:09:58 AM
This question is especially for those who have been into crypto for a long time. How did cryptocurrency help you, most specifically financially? Did you earn more? Gain more investment? I do have a friend who wants to get into crypto but he does not have a lot of savings in his bank account or any major investment. I told him to save more before getting into crypto because they still have mortgage and car loan to pay. Do you think crypto will help him out to?
I joined the crypto market more than 5 years ago. Bitcoin has given me high profitability because the time I bought it was very cheap. I used that money to buy a car and it always reminded me of that time. I also use some of that money to buy altcoins like Euthereum or Litecoins. I hope to get a decent return.
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think that the HODL approach is good bitcoin? on: September 10, 2018, 02:05:16 AM
Do you think that the HODL approach is good bitcoin?
Sometimes I think that because so many people HODL it makes is easier for some big players to manipulate the price.

I wonder what the community think about it.
I personally HODL for almost a year, I made some money and lost some money, But generally, I'm positive about the long run. I'm just curious about the fact that maybe we are the one who make it possible for big companies to influence the price in such an easy way
I think keeping or selling is your decision. If you think that keeping Bitcoin is good, it depends on your investment plan. At times, retaining Bitcoin will be profitable in the future, but it may also cause you to miss out on your opportunity to sell. Everything is beneficial and harmful. Anyway, as long as you feel it is appropriate to predict your market price and strategy.
117  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the best exchange ? on: September 09, 2018, 01:58:13 PM
Hello i am newbie here and i am newly trader can someone give some information which exchange is the best for buying altcoins ?
I usually trade altcoins through Bittrex web. Binance is also the site where you can safely choose altcoins trading. Kucoin is another reliable option. Crytopia is also very suitable if you are in need of gauze altcoins. I invest in some altcoins like Euthereum or Litecoins and usually perform the transaction with the above web. It works so well.
118  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is Bitcoin still a slave of Fiat? on: September 08, 2018, 05:40:21 AM
Why is Bitcoin tied to Fiat? Why is Bitcoin value moving like a stock? satoshi said the value will be derived by the limit of total coins. But we are seeing the opposite. Why dont we mathematically calculate the value of bitcoin according to the amount of bitcoin mined?

Like

Agreed Value * Bitcoins Mined = New Value

0.0010 * 1 = 0.0010
0.0010 * 2 = 0.0020
It is hard for people to leave the currency. Over time, it proved to be a very effective system. It is linked and expanded into a solid and easy-to-reach system. Bitcoin is still young and it takes time to secure its full potential.
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: will bitcoin become obsolete? on: September 08, 2018, 05:31:31 AM
Analysis : Blockchain, the technology behind Bitcoin, is predicted to be the leading technology in the future, but this technology will become obsolete.

Is it possible that bitcoin will be obsolete in the future?
It is impossible to predict when Bitcoin will become obsolete as it is now more likely to be a new option for the future. The future where transactions take place in new, neat and efficient ways without the need for a third party. There will also be more options for managing each person's property.
120  Economy / Speculation / Re: What strategy we should take when Bitcoin price fall on: September 07, 2018, 02:12:13 PM
Now a days we sometimes seeing the price of Bitcoin falling along with others also falling.
At that time if I have Bitcoin then what should I do ?
Should I sell or hold?
When Bitcoin prices drop, I will not rush to sell. I not only invest in Bitcoins but also altcoins. I would consider selling Bitcoin if the altcoins can bring in enough profit so I can reinvest in the future. Increasing or decreasing is just temporary and you should think twice about not losing too much.
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