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101  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 13, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
Thanks for explaining pool-hopping rules, SomeBadger! BTW.

@linkme cant wait for that extra hashing power, looks like you lost your top spot on the hash leader boards Tongue your 2 new 5820's should give u another 900 MH or so, that will get you back on top heh

also we peaked @ 9gh earlier today, come on people lets get it really moving Smiley

I am usually looking at another figure on the page: Est. Time To Find Block   236 Hours 1 Minutes
at the moment. Used to be about 500 hours... It's a pity I cant add more power.

Probably, you can soon charge non-members 0.01 BTC for looking at pool.betcoin.co/stats.php and team thingie
and bring in more revenue by organizing totalizator ;-)

organizing totalizator ? what do you mean ?

At my time of reading this the site has 12 workers at 7.9Ghz. If i put in 400Mhz I could get about 2 bitcoins per 50 split... Im in

Welcome aboard, and if you refer others or find a block your up for doubling or tripling those 2 btc Wink

Im into it. Lets see how it works !

Leading the Hashrate at 2nd Place Grin

Greetings, Frog

Welcome and good to see another power miner in the pool, we all thank you Smiley



Any suggestions for features or anything you guys would like added to the site, fire away.
Our mission is to make a great pool for our members.
102  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [~9 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses on: July 13, 2011, 12:40:33 PM
Please comment on your "Cheatproof" scoring? Meni's system?

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26613.msg357208#msg357208
103  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 13, 2011, 11:29:27 AM
@linkme cant wait for that extra hashing power, looks like you lost your top spot on the hash leader boards Tongue your 2 new 5820's should give u another 900 MH or so, that will get you back on top heh

also we peaked @ 9gh earlier today, come on people lets get it really moving Smiley
104  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses on: July 13, 2011, 11:27:42 AM
I noticed that...I tried to add my image that you placed on the betcoin.co website...too bad.

you can still use your referral link that gets members into your team Smiley
105  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: About to buy my first rig.... on: July 13, 2011, 02:17:05 AM
Unless your very good at it don't run ubuntu. even after 5 hours of reading guides I could not figure it out. good luck !

if you follow the guide found on this forum, setting up a fresh 11.04 is rather easy, but u cant skip any steps Wink
106  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I'm out of here ;). on: July 13, 2011, 02:15:23 AM
Yes it seems unfair but I understand why they do it.

I guess.. because of all the bad people in the world..  Undecided

haha yeah unfortunately there are alot of them that want to just spam their junk on here.

it does show that we are a community worth spamming though, so i guess you can take it as a complement.

to the OP, its always nice to come back to this section to help out others as i hope others helped you out Smiley
107  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can I monitor how hot my video cards/processor are getting? on: July 13, 2011, 02:11:16 AM
Personally I would call anything over 80 degrees C too hot, but 90 isn't in the danger zone just yet.

I should have specified what I meant by danger zone. Don't expect a crippling failure at 90 degrees in the short run, but it's going to shorten it's life expectancy in the long run.
are they getting so hot because they are in this huge gaming case that the store installed everything into?  I see on youtube videos that most people just have the cards out in the open on a table.  or is it for some other reason?  Should I take everything out of the casing?  I started up the other 3 cards and they started immediately going to 100 celsius so I have everything shut down for now.

Take the side of your case and see if your temps are lower, if so then your case is not pushing enough cool air around and you would be better off with the cards out in the fresh air Wink
108  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 13, 2011, 02:07:56 AM
You are too fast SomeBadger.

LOL.


Love the site btw...best mining site I have seen.  Especially when we find a block and the stats will be accurate.

Yeah i cant wait Smiley

One question. Its said the pool has anti-hopping measures. What does it really mean and how it can be even applied to the pool, when estimated time to fin the block is half a month? Its quite obvious when the pool makes like 3 blocks a day or more, but half a month...

What I have read of the pool-hopping is that people try to maximize their earning by switching (at some moment, which can be calculated) to the pool, which just starts a new block.

What concerns me is that it could be unfair, eg if one stops contributing to the pool, say, one day before the block is found and thus is seen as hopper. There could be technical faults or other factors which cause to switch mining software off.

Could you please explain what are the rules? Thanks!

hmm.. look at it this way

lets assume for ease that it takes on average 1000 shares to solve a block

with a normal setup where users are paid based on the amount of shares,
mr pool hopper jumps in at the start of the block and submits 100 shares and leaves

so his return would be 10% (5 BTC) if the block was solved at the average rate of 1000 shares

BUT if the block is solved early then he would get a lot more, say its solved in 500 shares, then he gets 10 BTC

with anti cheating, shares towards the end of the block are worth more so in the same instance,

if the block is solved in 1000 shares the people who mined the whole block would get more for their loyalty to the pool.
Mr Poolhopper would get less for leaving early and not getting the higher value final shares and the same goes for short blocks.

he would still be paid more on a short block but not as much as the people hanging around for the whole time.

so as for your question of what happens if you fall off b4 the block is found, you will still be paid, just not as much as if you stuck with it. if you were there right before the block was solved and then fell off not far from the end your diference would not be that much.

its more to stop people jumping in, doing a few shares at the start of the block and running away.

nb. this is a basic explanation and the algorithm is a bit more intense but i hope you understand.

109  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses on: July 12, 2011, 12:24:45 PM
Thanks SomeBadger for taking care of that for me.

A few of my other buddies are still on the fence until we find a coin.  I told them that another 1.5-2Gh/s would help the pool tremendously.

Yeah lots more people will come once we solve a block, but we need more people to solve the block quicker, its a catch 22 Tongue

ps. u cant have an image in your sig till u make 50 posts Wink
110  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - 0% Fees, Long polling, JSON API, 4BTC Bonuses on: July 12, 2011, 11:37:58 AM
How do I add my buddy Widgets to my team?  I invited him before teams started and he is running pool.betcoin.co daily on his 5870.

already done, see the other thread Tongue
111  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 12, 2011, 11:36:02 AM
@SomeBadger

Widgets is a buddy that I invited before teams were introduced to the pool...how do I go about inviting him to my team if he joined before the teams were introduced?

You simply tell me here Wink




All updated Smiley
112  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 12, 2011, 11:22:14 AM
nice ! joined.. do you mind explain to me what is a block ?

A block is what we are trying to solve by mining, when the pool solves a block we get paid the 50 BTC + fees associated to that block (stuff all at the moment Smiley) Once the block is solved the pool gets the 50BTC and its divided amongst the members based on how much they helped during that round. every miner has the same chance of finding a block for the pool and when someone finds one we give them a bonus 2 BTC and the team leader for that person 2 BTC

so in essence we are running a 4 BTC lottery every time the pool gets paid.

so get mining and your in with a chance, or bring other miners to the pool and your also in the running Wink
113  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 12, 2011, 09:55:49 AM
Please see the main threads, i have updated them based on the new features Smiley


114  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 12, 2011, 06:12:41 AM
UPDATE:

Until we reach 5 blocks I will be donating 4BTC to the pool, Payouts are as follows:

To the person who finds the block: 2BTC
To the team leader of the block finder: 2BTC

so the more people you bring aboard the higher chances u have to win the Team prize !!
(Dont forget to use your link on the team page.)
115  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 12, 2011, 06:11:48 AM
I'm looking into this right now, i am staggering some of the server tasks and due to this stats will now be delayed for upto an hour while we diagnose this issue.

All tasks now run at 15 min intervals, so if u can keep an eye on your logs and tell me when it happens it will let us know where your problem lies.

It will be one of the following :  XX:00, XX:15, XX:30 XX:45

the sooner u let us know the sooner we can get the stats back to updating quicker Wink



Before these changes, I've observed problems always at XX:30, XX:40, XX:10 and may be XX:00.
Which gave me a clue that some cron job might be the cause of those.

I will keep monitoring, as time permits.
Thanks!

we had a small delay at the 15 minute mark after i made the change, i have since optimized that task and I dont see you dropping out as you were, but take a look around the 15 min mark and let me know.
116  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~5 GH/sec] pool.betcoin.co - Long polling, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found on: July 12, 2011, 06:04:00 AM
Ive had some feedback on the 1% initial fee going to the winer of the 1st block and ive decided to scrap the fee alltogether, instead i'm donating 4BTC to the pool in the following way:

2 BTC to the person who finds the block
2 BTC to the team leader of the person who finds the block

Good luck guys, the more ppl u bring (use your link) the higher chance u have of getting the 2BTC team leader prize Smiley
117  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: pool.betcoin.co thread for Newbies - LP, JSON API, Reward for 1st block found on: July 12, 2011, 06:03:39 AM
Ive had some feedback on the 1% initial fee going to the winer of the 1st block and ive decided to scrap the fee alltogether, instead i'm donating 4BTC to the pool in the following way:

2 BTC to the person who finds the block
2 BTC to the team leader of the person who finds the block

Good luck guys, the more ppl u bring (use your link) the higher chance u have of getting the 2BTC team leader prize Smiley
118  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 12, 2011, 12:11:07 AM
Just tried to register, and it said "Please login to continue" but I can't get logged in with the credentials... help?

Fixed Smiley
119  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining the new pool! on: July 11, 2011, 11:07:28 PM
I'm looking into this right now, i am staggering some of the server tasks and due to this stats will now be delayed for upto an hour while we diagnose this issue.

All tasks now run at 15 min intervals, so if u can keep an eye on your logs and tell me when it happens it will let us know where your problem lies.

It will be one of the following :  XX:00, XX:15, XX:30 XX:45

the sooner u let us know the sooner we can get the stats back to updating quicker Wink

120  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Pushpool Web Frontend] Simplecoin v2.0 Opensource PHP/MySQL on: July 11, 2011, 02:31:17 PM
congrats on simplecoin, i'm running a varient of it on pool.betcoin.co with a bunch of wayno's modifications and a large mix of my own Smiley

I'll be donating to both you and wayno once we solve a block, keep up the good work.

If you want the code for my cacheable images, let me know.
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