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Well, I managed to get the optimized client compiled. It's running about 100-200pps on four instances. I'm pretty proud of myself...linux is kind of frustrating when you're just learnin'. Thanks for everyone throwing it down in this thread. Super helpful!
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18 and black, lower class. Dead wrong. By using VPSs for something they aren't meant for, for something the owner would kick you off of it for if they knew, you're being a piece of shit.
I mean, I still got the age and location right, Carlton. You failed to answer ALL of my questions. What, exactly, are VPS' meant for? Give us a quick rundown. What are the societally approved and sanctioned uses for the service for which I am both paying for, and of which I am happily abiding by the TOS? Why don't you actually read this thread and note the exchange I had with Digital Ocean, reproduced above, where they state they don't give a fuck. Also note that I told them EXACTLY what I am doing with their service. To quote them, "Mine those bitcoins!". So did you personally manufacture and assemble your PC and vehicle? Because if you didn't, you're being a piece of shit. I did assemble my PC, maybe not from bare silicon, but I did build it. By the way, that's a strawman. I'm saying that you are wasting knowledgeable people's time by asking questions you could easily Google. This shows signs of not wanting to learn, but just wanting to learn how to make some "internet money" and dump it. And about the VPS, fine, I concede that point. It is not against their TOS, and while that's really not the purpose of a VPS, you're being more creative than anything. Also, you were close with the age, and didn't mention a location. How is that a strawman? You could easily learn to plot ICs and start laying your own silicone. You're wasting people's time by doing anything but. Pretty much anyone can learn anything. It doesn't mean it's worth their time to do so. If knowledgeable people didn't want to answer these questions, they wouldn't answer, my man. As good as your intentions are, I don't think they need you to police their time in a butthurt, jealous, prideful rage. |
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At the current pace of difficulty, block reward will be less than 1 XPM in 25 days. You are looking at a massive spike in valuation when people realize this coin will have a very limited supply.
Like I said, speculation rarely keeps up with minting after the hype in Altcoins, and the fact that I made $40 just running my i7 desktop for 3 days makes me very cautious about the valuation. The fact that I made astronomical returns not doing a fucking thing for a couple years makes me very cautious about the valuation of bitcoin. I mean, seriously...what kind of fucking idiot would pay more than $0.0002 cents for that digital shitheap? The value of things when they have existed for a grand total of four three days, factoring in maturation, really speaks to the future and lays it out clear, you know? |
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Can I get detailed instructions on how to transfer coins from the droplets to my wallet? Thanks.  There are a few ways, once its matured. primecoind sendtoaddress yourhomeaddress amount Before its matured: from vps: primecoind listtransactions # to get the receiving address primecoind dumpprivkey $receiving_address from home: primecoind importprivkey $privkey_from_vps I then remove the wallet.dat from the vps to get all new keys, though its not necessary. Yeah, thanks for helping people who are too lazy to use Google get all the blocks. You don't know me moron...OP is doing a great service here, don't let your greed make you troll random folk. I don't need to know you to see that you need to beg on a forum for information that you could easily get from Google. OP is helping along people who have done no research into cryptos and just want to make some "magic internet money". By the way, you're the one using VPS services to mine, while I'm mining on machines I own. You call me greedy? Or, conversely, they are people who truly believe in cryptocurrency and want to support an idea they believe in, and primecoin sure seems to have garnered the love of the community by utilizing novel algorithms. How long have you been here again? I have been hashing away since BTC was $2. I am no moron when it comes to computers, but I am a biologist...my coding knowledge caps out with systat and excel statistical packages. I wouldn't have been able to piece this together without this thread. Is me mining on the primecoin network with additional resources somehow a bad thing? Is having a secure network bad? Is a solid and fair (READ: IT'S FUCKING FREE) distribution of hashing power detrimental to the survival and proliferation of XPM? Your statement is wholly influenced by selfishness, profit, and greed, and you look like a giant asshole. You're really taking the moral high horse because you are too, I don't know...arrogant/stupid/proud to utilize free VPS service? Seriously, dude...go to bed. You're getting cranky. So, you've been hashing for that long, and you still don't know how to use a *coind? I find that really hard to believe. No, you mining is not a bad thing, but refusing to do your own research and wasting other people's time to make money IS a bad thing. And using VPS services is just trying to get more than your fair share. Seriously, guy. How is utilizing resources available to me trying to get more than my "fair share"? The fact that you use the term fair share shows how delusionally entitled you are. Let me guess...early 20s, US, white, upper middle class. So let me ask you this...is someone who is driving a benz next to my shitty truck somehow getting more than their fare share? If anything, I would have to say that you are just failing to allocate your "fair share" by failing to use the tools at hand. Furthermore, you understand that SOMEONE wrote everything on the internet, right? Sure, I could sit down and become a world class programmer...lucky for me, I don't have to bother learning a bunch shit I couldn't give a flying fuck about. I can rely on the culture of specialization that has emerged since the renaissance and let a programming specialist either carry out the task or teach me. Concurrently, you can rely on me to establish and implement regulation to preserve the world's oceans, or you can approach me and I will more than happily tell you everything I know. Teamwork, son. It's the way the world goes round for 99.99% of humanity. Out of curiousity, did you make a single item of clothes you wear? Did you assemble your car from a mound of Taconite, rubber and silicone? How about your PC? Did you design your CPU and then build a fab shop by hand to make it for you? Sounds like you are just some lowlife, trying to get more than your fair share. 18 and black, lower class. Dead wrong. By using VPSs for something they aren't meant for, for something the owner would kick you off of it for if they knew, you're being a piece of shit. I mean, I still got the age and location right, Carlton. You failed to answer ALL of my questions. What, exactly, are VPS' meant for? Give us a quick rundown. What are the societally approved and sanctioned uses for the service for which I am both paying for, and of which I am happily abiding by the TOS? Why don't you actually read this thread and note the exchange I had with Digital Ocean, reproduced above, where they state they don't give a fuck. Also note that I told them EXACTLY what I am doing with their service. To quote them, "Mine those bitcoins!". So did you personally manufacture and assemble your PC and vehicle? Because if you didn't, you're being a piece of shit. |
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I think a lot of people are frustrated because they don't understand the difference between pooled and solo mining.
In pooled mining, (ie, what we all do with Bitcoin), the work is broken down into a ton of discrete chunks - each miner is compensated when a block is solved based on their proportion of work contributed - ie everyone gets a slow, steady and somewhat predictable payout.
Solo minings different - blocks don't get shared, so each individual gets a much greater payout, but whether they get it or not is a LOT more dependent on whether they're lucky enough to solve a block before someone else does. There have only been 8000 or so blocks solved so far. I've got the miner running on various computers at varying pps rates - during the first 17 hours or so, I solved no blocks at all. Then they started getting solved. And the thing was, the difference between the number of blocks solved from a computer running at 10 pps and another running at 150pps is much smaller than the difference in prime generation rate.
So, there are 8000 blocks awarded so far.
Lets say there are 500 people attempting to mine them and each person is using 3 computers to do so - on average, if they've all been mining since the beginning, each computer would have solved 5.333 blocks. But the distribution is a lot more random; some people will have gotten 5 blocks, others have gotten zero, and others have gotten 20+. But that's the thing with solo mining. And if, in the beginning, there were only 50 people mining during the first hour, 200 mining 6 hours later, and 500 24-hours later, of course there will be drop-offs in the rate that people see blocks get solved...
Given the newness of the coin, the lack of markets for it, etc, I'd be shocked if someone had already figured out how to have a GPU solve the problems - it's not just rewriting the existing SHA algorithm that bitcoin uses, changing a couple lines to make it primecoin ready, it's revising everything about the miner to handle a completely different type of work. Optmizing the CPU miner? Sure. But even so, I don't think they'ed be churning out coins in this environment, as, again, I think the payout has a lot more to do with luck at this point than anything else including raw horse power.
Putting together some charts to demonstrate the distribution of the rewards I've seen so far.... maybe someone will find it to be of interest, who knows?
But in the meantime, if people want to see more predictable coin generation, then maybe they should start a fund to pay a bounty to the first person to develop a mining pool? i assume it'll be a lot of work, because, again, the dynamics of this coin are much different than any of the others, including this time to "mature". Or, you could make an informal "pool" with someone you know and really trust - just have both of you mine to the same wallet.dat file, and, as you add machines, the randomness that a single miner sees will be evened out more and more...
That my two cents. Utterly useless, because I'm not a programmer. But so far, I'm pretty excited about this coin and I can't quite fathom why people are getting upset with it already?
People are getting upset because some people not sharing their compiled code are damaging their own reputation and the reputation of the coin. Also, it's just flat out unethical to steal blocks. 'Of course they are! This is the internetz where anything goes!' is the typical argument, however I'd like to think the crypto-community and particularly XPM miners are for the most part much better than the worst posters on the /b forums. Right now there are a lot of people proving me wrong. All you have to do is look at the statistics. Behind ahead of the curve is now unethical? Ever hear of this thing called life? So you pretty much outed yourself and someone not sharing your optimizations with the community. Can people please realize this and use the reputation button the way it was intended? There's a rep system here? I see a WoT for TRADE, not bitching because you're butthurt. |
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I wonder how long until they start kicking people off their VPSes for mining. Who knows, they might not do anything at all.
Due to a massive influx of Abuse relating to Bitcoin, we are unable to unlock your account due to the violation of our Terms of Service.
And the storm begins! Meh...they wanted me to verify, and I provided the info save for a website. I told them I was just messing with VPS and Linux to learn the ropes. They didn't care and still verified me, and I figured while they were being all nice, I would meet on their field and make sure that I wasn't being an asshole by utilizing 100% CPU on my instances. Me:
Thanks! I ended up installing some cryptocurrency software because I wasn't sure what else to tinker with as my first VPS hurdle. I just wanted to check and make sure that running something with high CPU utilization isn't a problem. I would be more than happy to yank them down if it's poor form to be running full bore for days.
Digital Ocean Support:
Do what you have to do =)
Mine those bitcoins! (or whichever)
Let us know if you experience any problems.
Thank you
Support
Seems like they're cool with it. I'm gonna need to figure out a good way to spend some money with these guys once I've eaten through my credit. I can only imagine they're wincing at the number of folks who've redeemed the offer (in the middle of the night, when it was probably one absolutely panicked triage dude who was unable to pull the offer himself on staff), and the majority of people are just going to drift off after getting their freebie. |
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This is pretty rad. I am curious to see what probability tosses us!
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Can I get detailed instructions on how to transfer coins from the droplets to my wallet? Thanks. There are a few ways, once its matured. primecoind sendtoaddress yourhomeaddress amount Before its matured: from vps: primecoind listtransactions # to get the receiving address primecoind dumpprivkey $receiving_address from home: primecoind importprivkey $privkey_from_vps I then remove the wallet.dat from the vps to get all new keys, though its not necessary. Yeah, thanks for helping people who are too lazy to use Google get all the blocks. You don't know me moron...OP is doing a great service here, don't let your greed make you troll random folk. I don't need to know you to see that you need to beg on a forum for information that you could easily get from Google. OP is helping along people who have done no research into cryptos and just want to make some "magic internet money". By the way, you're the one using VPS services to mine, while I'm mining on machines I own. You call me greedy? Or, conversely, they are people who truly believe in cryptocurrency and want to support an idea they believe in, and primecoin sure seems to have garnered the love of the community by utilizing novel algorithms. How long have you been here again? I have been hashing away since BTC was $2. I am no moron when it comes to computers, but I am a biologist...my coding knowledge caps out with systat and excel statistical packages. I wouldn't have been able to piece this together without this thread. Is me mining on the primecoin network with additional resources somehow a bad thing? Is having a secure network bad? Is a solid and fair (READ: IT'S FUCKING FREE) distribution of hashing power detrimental to the survival and proliferation of XPM? Your statement is wholly influenced by selfishness, profit, and greed, and you look like a giant asshole. You're really taking the moral high horse because you are too, I don't know...arrogant/stupid/proud to utilize free VPS service? Seriously, dude...go to bed. You're getting cranky. So, you've been hashing for that long, and you still don't know how to use a *coind? I find that really hard to believe. No, you mining is not a bad thing, but refusing to do your own research and wasting other people's time to make money IS a bad thing. And using VPS services is just trying to get more than your fair share. Seriously, guy. How is utilizing resources available to me trying to get more than my "fair share"? The fact that you use the term fair share shows how delusionally entitled you are. Let me guess...early 20s, US, white, upper middle class. So let me ask you this...is someone who is driving a benz next to my shitty truck somehow getting more than their fare share? If anything, I would have to say that you are just failing to allocate your "fair share" by failing to use the tools at hand. Furthermore, you understand that SOMEONE wrote everything on the internet, right? Sure, I could sit down and become a world class programmer...lucky for me, I don't have to bother learning a bunch shit I couldn't give a flying fuck about. I can rely on the culture of specialization that has emerged since the renaissance and let a programming specialist either carry out the task or teach me. Concurrently, you can rely on me to establish and implement regulation to preserve the world's oceans, or you can approach me and I will more than happily tell you everything I know. Teamwork, son. It's the way the world goes round for 99.99% of humanity. Out of curiousity, did you make a single item of clothes you wear? Did you assemble your car from a mound of Taconite, rubber and silicone? How about your PC? Did you design your CPU and then build a fab shop by hand to make it for you? Sounds like you are just some lowlife, trying to get more than your fair share. |
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Can I get detailed instructions on how to transfer coins from the droplets to my wallet? Thanks. There are a few ways, once its matured. primecoind sendtoaddress yourhomeaddress amount Before its matured: from vps: primecoind listtransactions # to get the receiving address primecoind dumpprivkey $receiving_address from home: primecoind importprivkey $privkey_from_vps I then remove the wallet.dat from the vps to get all new keys, though its not necessary. Yeah, thanks for helping people who are too lazy to use Google get all the blocks. You don't know me moron...OP is doing a great service here, don't let your greed make you troll random folk. I don't need to know you to see that you need to beg on a forum for information that you could easily get from Google. OP is helping along people who have done no research into cryptos and just want to make some "magic internet money". By the way, you're the one using VPS services to mine, while I'm mining on machines I own. You call me greedy? Or, conversely, they are people who truly believe in cryptocurrency and want to support an idea they believe in, and primecoin sure seems to have garnered the love of the community by utilizing novel algorithms. How long have you been here again? I have been hashing away since BTC was $2. I am no moron when it comes to computers, but I am a biologist...my coding knowledge caps out with systat and excel statistical packages. I wouldn't have been able to piece this together without this thread. Is me mining on the primecoin network with additional resources somehow a bad thing? Is having a secure network bad? Is a solid and fair (READ: IT'S FUCKING FREE) distribution of hashing power detrimental to the survival and proliferation of XPM? Your statement is wholly influenced by selfishness, profit, and greed, and you look like a giant asshole. You're really taking the moral high horse because you are too, I don't know...arrogant/stupid/proud to utilize free VPS service? Seriously, dude...go to bed. You're getting cranky. |
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Is this coin still alive?
Nah. It was gelded, so its entire line died out... |
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Enormous trollfail, bonkers.
So, when are you gonna take me up on this trip to the bone zone?
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Awesome thread, rethaw! Thanks!
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People are probably block robbing on their optimized clients. Someone has got to release an optimized binary.
Yeah no friggin kidding. 40 hours at 79 PPS average and nothing. Seriously. I've asked 10 people so far to help me learn how to compile code to add my own personal flags... I'm not asking for answers, just the method to adjust some variables. This is just as bad as instamining in my opinion. Pretty obvious by now that a 'select few' people are robbing this coin blind before most people can even find blocks. Same shit as as instamined crapcoins launched at 5 am pacific with botnets ready to go. Not sure if 100% intended by OP but releasing a coin that 'most people' take several days to even figure out how to mine is pretty damn weak. Moving on. Man...people are such entitled, whiny, little bitches. Do you not fucking understand variance? I am running a laptop with an i5, figured out how to edit in the optimizations and compile my first executable ever, left it running overnight, and have found three blocks already, one about twenty minutes ago. Not bad for two hours of work. Sounds like you're lazy or simple. Either way, I have no sympathy. You are experiencing probability and variance, not some grand kabbalah of more efficient miners stealing your profit. BTW, I was reading somewhere that for the network to increase in difficulty from 7 to 7.2 would require a doubling of the computing power? Anyone know the veracity of this? If so, does that mean the computational power has roughly cubed since launch? Might explain some of this tinfoil hat block-poaching conspiracy theory garbage. |
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I've been mining it for 30 mins, get nothing with 100% CPU... I'd prefer GPU mining...
I bet you just fucking love Twitter and action movies, too. I spent 30 whole minutes and I am a snivelling twenty-something with a fucked up sense of entitlement and a deep seated need for instant gratification so the world owes me something. |
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Three words, asshole! I saw that! Why so dickhead? Both, just funnin'! No fun allowed. Lose some weight! It's glandular, prick! |
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Three words, asshole! I saw that! Why so dickhead? Both, just funnin'! No fun allowed. |
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Go for broke!  How would one get those bumps on the head? Pretty sure it entails bursting forth from the bowels of hell. |
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