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Just tried my username as: Evillo test binary code works!
as ASCII and to my surprise it contained an address with unspent funds of 19.034 BTC.
Swooped them all and became rich
Shittt! Forgot to stop daydreaming on forums again. Gotta find my pills.
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i have copied the binary code and have double it, then the adress in top cames out with the ASCII that looks human created
How did you managed to compute that private key from puzzle 65's private key exactly? I mean, please provide the exact same steps so we can reproduce it for testing. Because by simply doubling its " binary", it didn't resulted with the mentioned " Denis" private key. Doubling binary is easy, a matter of adding a zero to the right side. And yes, it did NOT amount to his private key containing Denis at all. Maybe he did something different than just doubling. |
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The code can potentially find an address after replacing hexadecimal characters in the string generated from the secrets module. It may find the address or key in the 7th or 8th while loop, for example.
Running the code with "1" as to generate output I got 0.065 execution time.
Calculating the additional range that it searches is very small compared to the overall bits.
Me understood Zero of this. But it's okay, your efforts are appreciated. |
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I've been trying to pick up this way for a long time. Here's what I found. I can give a hint the number corresponds to seed. I found it by accident. I'm still guessing.
a8d9a1996b5899de820a7cf540d6e2b2a9544323485ed8faae2f7de22d402150
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009de820a7c
and there are many such coincidences. and there is an order. And the word generator is the same.
5b4cfff874dd916ce8c05f0c11a34185d0442727ff6678d07af52a4d7d615d4e 28
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000d916ce8
Can you explain more detailled, please? Let's take the examples you mentioned: The line 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009de820a7c represents the hex key, in short it is 9de820a7c. This is the private key of puzzle #36. But what does the hex string a8d9a1996b5899de820a7cf540d6e2b2a9544323485ed8faae2f7de22d402150 represent? The line 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000d916ce8 represents the hex key, in short it is d916ce8. This is the private key of puzzle #28. But what does the hex string 5b4cfff874dd916ce8c05f0c11a34185d0442727ff6678d07af52a4d7d615d4e represent? You said this is a salt. How do you calculate the salt, salt of what? Give us a step-by-step calculation for understanding this example and explain in detail what you mean. Thank you. I was looking for the seed phrase via sha256. The creator said that he just replaced a part with 0 and left the rest. I have selected many possible phrases related to ordinal numbers and several phrases. (I won't say the phrases yet) and the program started to give out a lot of matches at addresses only with certain seed phrases. At first I thought it was a coincidence, but when I realized that there was a number in the seed phrase corresponding to the number in the position and the long numbers began to match, I began to search further. It remains to find an algorithm for changing several characters. But as soon as I add at least one comma to the seed, there is no match at all. (I don't count matches of less than 5 characters) Let's use your method to find the right phrase that opens all puzzle addresses. Assuming we are working with 2000 English words in a phrase consisting of 12 words. We are now trying to crack the puzzle through well over 2^131 attempts. Result: You have a higher chance of solving puzzle #125 using public key in kangaroo or BSGS than to go through 2^131 phrases in your entire lifetime. Conclusion: We need a better way. |
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Feedback for others to build upon.
Keyhunt cpu I tested on old i5 4 core 8GB Ram. I found this to be good. -t 8192 -R Initially `14m/keys then 2m/keys after a minute or so but what I was excited about was after some time it started getting faster, like from 2/ 2.2/ 2.250/
Using linux terminal was successful in using Crunch and piping it to Python. In crunch 17 17 0123456789abcdef -s 20000000000000000 | python3 code.py I like the idea of generating this in sequential order, after 24hrs though, I was only at column 7 and every next column is exponentially bigger.
Lastly I thought well if the puzzle has gotten us to the point of processing power and time variables, what is one way to speed things up. An example is to use .replace() in python. So how's that work. Generate a random output then, replace each hexadecimal char with a different one, I chose ("0", "1")("1", "2") etc. running the code on a few address char 13zb the code will print 13zb and 16 more. I've found on avg you get 4-7 unique outputs per run. The idea being you are searching more space in the same amount of time. I could be wrong and please reply if this is not true. Thanks.
Either use crunch or python, not both. Because all they're good for is to generate ranges. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Like any programming language, Python is a great language on case by case basis, you can only use it if speed does not matter to you. For example, i use it to extract public keys from the blockchain as this task does not require speed. Now talking about solving a puzzle, you need both speed and luck. Here you should be using any of the following: c/c++/java/Golang. Any high level language cannot help. Start your journey with this fact in mind. You can however use Python to generate random sub-ranges for your bit range as this won't take much time. I've done it with puzzle 64, although Crunch could be fast enough to do it anyway too. After generating the whole range, use keyhunt or whatever cracking program to run through the generated sub-ranges. Good luck. |
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But deterministic wallet can mean anything that can be reproduced with some algorithm, It can be an existing algorithm or a completely custom one.
I bet and believe that the creator used a custom algorithm or something that he create from scratch
I 100% agree .. the creator is not your average Joe when it comes to Bitcoin .. some people even suggested he was Satoshi Nakamoto and that he's trying to test his innovation's security by creating such puzzle. |
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================================ Deterministic wallet masked with leading Zeros ==================================
Bip44 : alarm expand pond enough hub rabbit proud panther glance offer debris shock
BipPH : m/44h/0h/0h/0/0
Phras : 1172
count : 601896
Found : 3
PrivM : d16115225b19963aee89a5f700bb4b9695170cef10e74277dfb1c87d3826aa54
MaskM : 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
Maskp : 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
Addrp : 1BgGZ9tcN4rm9KBzDn7KprQz87SZ26SAMH
AddrM : 1FgjZpn4vudr6kB32ZyjeFts8Rd4sS4XY9
================================ Deterministic wallet masked with leading Zeros ==================================
Bip44 : alarm expand pond enough hub rabbit proud panther glance offer debris shock
BipPH : m/44h/0h/0h/0/1
Phras : 1172
count : 601898
Found : 3
PrivM : 0abc59333e639a6c65ff04bda4d7e7de4f5cb9a2e4f9d699b48e47eaa2f89f3f
MaskM : 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002
Maskp : 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000003
Addrp : 1CUNEBjYrCn2y1SdiUMohaKUi4wpP326Lb
AddrM : 1KxsZZRc25pPgH7MRaa7RzARTNe5DpQvsW
and so on ...
I am not sure if understood correctly. Do you mean the puzzle creator used the same source and deriving ALL puzzles from this single source? If so, I absolutely disagree because I don't think he wanted that intentionally. This is not smart. Consider the original goal and the idea behind it. The point is to show how good or bad the security behind this concept is. If one were to take a single seed phrase as the origin and only mask it with the corresponding number of bits, this would mean: if someone should manage to get the correct initial values, then he can solve ALL puzzles from 1-160 in one fell swoop. That would be fatal and would speak against the actual sense of the puzzle. I cannot imagine with the best will in the world that the creator would be so stupid. Well, it's not as easy as it looks .. the seed phrase that people take for granted can be trillions upon trillions of combinations of any number of letters, numbers or symbols (keep in mind that in "bitcoin core" if you want you can use a password containing thousands of digits instead of the nowadays type of 12 words).. using CRUNCH on Linux for a while back in the days showed me that seeds are so unbearable to use for cracking. A simple 16 digits consisting of both letters, numbers and symbols would need entire Google servers to contain the data of all possible combinations. And even then you would take years and years to crack using such data. Why go through that when you can simply try your luck with a 17 digit hex pvt key like in the case of puzz #66? Huge difference in difficulty. |
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Puzzle #68 also received a few cents yesterday. I have no idea what to call this.
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Not sure why everyone insists there is zero chance that whoever solved #125 or #64 doesn’t know about this thread/topic.
Y’all act like no one else can scan transactions and find the pattern. If someone did it and shared it here, I’d bet others saw the same pattern and didn’t share it here.
Lots of smart people out there. Someone else could have saw the patterns and chased the patterns. How many solved challenges have been announced on here by a member? I don’t know, but I’m curious to know if many were unannounced and members on here applied bsgs or kangaroo to find private keys, like what was done with #64.
No one said it's zero chance whoever solved the puzzle doesn't know about this thread .. we said zero chance they don't know about THE PUZZLE ITSELF .. and even if someone discovered the puzzle transactions by their own means, this would also mean they now know it's a puzzle to solve .. what we think is impossible, is that someone randomly solved a key by random cracking rich addresses until it found a UTXO that happens to be the puzzle #120 address. That my friend, is ultra impossible. Cool story bro... He don't have to release the private key publicly. Maybe he even doesn't know about this thread. If he didn't know about the existence of this thread - he wouldn't know about the existence of this challenge :-) Hahaha wandering philosopher you are quoting the wrong poster.. checkout the guy we are quoting IMHO, the person who spent those coins might not even know about the puzzle at all wrong story bro |
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Not sure why everyone insists there is zero chance that whoever solved #125 or #64 doesn’t know about this thread/topic.
Y’all act like no one else can scan transactions and find the pattern. If someone did it and shared it here, I’d bet others saw the same pattern and didn’t share it here.
Lots of smart people out there. Someone else could have saw the patterns and chased the patterns. How many solved challenges have been announced on here by a member? I don’t know, but I’m curious to know if many were unannounced and members on here applied bsgs or kangaroo to find private keys, like what was done with #64.
No one said it's zero chance whoever solved the puzzle doesn't know about this thread .. we said zero chance they don't know about THE PUZZLE ITSELF .. and even if someone discovered the puzzle transactions by their own means, this would also mean they now know it's a puzzle to solve .. what we think is impossible, is that someone randomly solved a key by random cracking rich addresses until it found a UTXO that happens to be the puzzle #120 address. That my friend, is ultra impossible. |
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So ... Let's assume what an average person currently can do:
1. Cracking puzzle 66 - Unknown public key, so only blind generating private keys in hope to find that one which matches the address of puzzle 66. It could happen but i would say chances are almost zero.
2. Cracking puzzle 125 - Known public key, so BSGS or Kangraoo could be used .. but still the bitrange here starts to be a bit crazy ... Chances are also almost zero (i mean if you have one PC with one GPU)
Almost Zero is accurate. I would consider myself luckier thn a lottery winner if i could find either of those two prv keys using one PC and one GPU.. This game is now turning into a "who got more resources" game. |
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IMHO, the person who spent those coins might not even know about the puzzle at all
That's an impossible scenario, particularly if they are not the original owner of the address. Lol yeah I was stunned when i read it. Imagine someone randomly trying to crack any of the UTXO addresses, only to land specifically on the private key of puzzle 120. Should be the luckiest creature in the entire universe. Not even exaggerating. Chances are slimmer than one in the number of entire atoms in the universe. In fact, random cracking ANY address would be as hard as any other. Pick any address, even an empty one, and try to crack it, you'll spend your entire life doing it with no luck. Your children and grand grand children would spend their entire lives and still no success. It's never gonna happen unless you deliberately search for low entropy private keys using huge resources or try cracking a full entropy prv key using quantum code. |
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Puzzle 120 solver, definatly very well know about these threads, related developments, bitcrack, kangaroo, vantisearch, keyhunt, bsgs etc,
options are for puzzle 64 and 120, solver never post prvkeys,
maybe puzzle creator ... just for make puzzle live, as no new development, group based attempts by developer, gpu farmers, and individual attempts by useing other develop apps,
reason, puzzle 120 pickup to new address, and no used,
in past every solved puzzle's were cash out by thier solver, for their needs, if they are developer, finder, coder, etc, every one need money, upon they find, they cashout, put puzzle 120 solver too easy, not picked up fork's, and nor cashout, simple transfer to an other address and waiting, what people try new things,
and here threads once asked prvkey, and no more talks, seems every one no more interest, due to silence from solver
Good for us crackers for the puzzle situation to be more discrete and dormant ..business 101: lower competitio equals higher chance of success. Say if only one cracker is attempting to find puzzle 66, the outcome is he will obviously be the one to solve it. I'm not sure if it was the puzzle creator who withdrew the money, and i don't vote fot it. Leaving the puzzle to be normally solved by other crackers should be his goal from the beginning. After all, he wanted to test the security of BTC. Having such small bit ranges unsolved for as long as it takes shows him exactly how powerful the Bitcoin hash and curve are. Solving 120 early would defeat the purpose. this kind of action makes no sense. The fact of not making the key public and thus creating a riddle from a riddle only makes the whole game meaningless by the fact that there was a solved level whose solution we do not know, as well as the reason why. IMHO, the person who spent those coins might not even know about the puzzle at all I'm sorry what?? |
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Fun fact: Puzzle #99 is now = puzzle #100
And you just noticed this today? Too slow. 66 and 99 can make a double team 69, you know if you know, who ever is sending coins to them has a sick fantasy. Lol Haha good one 😁 but I didn't discover this now .. I've been monitoring txs to and from the whole puzzle addresses since 2020 .. just thought of telling the community about 99 |
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I have no idea why .. 99 and 66 keep receiving tiny rewards from some source .. it doesn't make sense for the puzzle creator to send a dozen cents to these addresses .. but then comes the question: why these addresses specifically?! |
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Fun fact: Puzzle #99 is now = puzzle #100
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Puzzle 120 solver, definatly very well know about these threads, related developments, bitcrack, kangaroo, vantisearch, keyhunt, bsgs etc,
options are for puzzle 64 and 120, solver never post prvkeys,
maybe puzzle creator ... just for make puzzle live, as no new development, group based attempts by developer, gpu farmers, and individual attempts by useing other develop apps,
reason, puzzle 120 pickup to new address, and no used,
in past every solved puzzle's were cash out by thier solver, for their needs, if they are developer, finder, coder, etc, every one need money, upon they find, they cashout, put puzzle 120 solver too easy, not picked up fork's, and nor cashout, simple transfer to an other address and waiting, what people try new things,
and here threads once asked prvkey, and no more talks, seems every one no more interest, due to silence from solver
Good for us crackers for the puzzle situation to be more discrete and dormant ..business 101: lower competitio equals higher chance of success. Say if only one cracker is attempting to find puzzle 66, the outcome is he will obviously be the one to solve it. I'm not sure if it was the puzzle creator who withdrew the money, and i don't vote fot it. Leaving the puzzle to be normally solved by other crackers should be his goal from the beginning. After all, he wanted to test the security of BTC. Having such small bit ranges unsolved for as long as it takes shows him exactly how powerful the Bitcoin hash and curve are. Solving 120 early would defeat the purpose. " I'm not sure if it was the puzzle creator who withdrew the money" no they did not withdraw the money, simple they shift coins to an other address, and still their after 20 day , this is Question 2nd puzzle were anounced at bitcointalk and all relvant development, discussions, research, etc here at bitcointalk, then how you can say solver dont know about relavant info here, even solver regular visitor here, for see talk's, and dont know how to post reply related to winning, and dont know much about fork's  bro its 2023, Lol .. withdrawing money from an address == transferring money to another. And you should really read the reply before mine ☝️ no one actually posted the private key upon solving a puzzle.. people use another software to derive it after pub key is exposed. Reason why is It's a matter of privacy.. after all, it's what the Bitcoin concept is about isn't it?! You don't want people to know who you are, even if it was just a username on a forum. |
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Puzzle 120 solver, definatly very well know about these threads, related developments, bitcrack, kangaroo, vantisearch, keyhunt, bsgs etc,
options are for puzzle 64 and 120, solver never post prvkeys,
maybe puzzle creator ... just for make puzzle live, as no new development, group based attempts by developer, gpu farmers, and individual attempts by useing other develop apps,
reason, puzzle 120 pickup to new address, and no used,
in past every solved puzzle's were cash out by thier solver, for their needs, if they are developer, finder, coder, etc, every one need money, upon they find, they cashout, put puzzle 120 solver too easy, not picked up fork's, and nor cashout, simple transfer to an other address and waiting, what people try new things,
and here threads once asked prvkey, and no more talks, seems every one no more interest, due to silence from solver
Good for us crackers for the puzzle situation to be more discrete and dormant ..business 101: lower competitio equals higher chance of success. Say if only one cracker is attempting to find puzzle 66, the outcome is he will obviously be the one to solve it. I'm not sure if it was the puzzle creator who withdrew the money, and i don't vote fot it. Leaving the puzzle to be normally solved by other crackers should be his goal from the beginning. After all, he wanted to test the security of BTC. Having such small bit ranges unsolved for as long as it takes shows him exactly how powerful the Bitcoin hash and curve are. Solving 120 early would defeat the purpose.
I wonder, why #120 private key is not revealed, chop chop who ever you are, don't keep us waiting.😉
He don't have to release the private key publicly. Maybe he even doesn't know about this thread. I'm more curious why he didn't took forked coins. There is still BSV, BCH and BTG there (and maybe few others). i have a theory that he doesn't even know it has money in other forks. |
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This is quoted from RESEARCHGATE website: We show in some detail how to implement Shor's efficient quantum algorithm for discrete logarithms for the particular case of elliptic curve groups. It turns out that for this problem a smaller quantum computer can solve problems further beyond current computing than for integer factorisation. A 160 bit elliptic curve cryptographic key could be broken on a quantum computer using around 1000 qubits while factoring the security-wise equivalent 1024 bit RSA modulus would require about 2000 qubits.
Someone enlighten me, if the above was true.. why isn't Qiskit or IBM a dozen billion dollars richer? According to the abstract above, they both clearly have the qubits necessary to attack ECDSA with Shor lol . Something is not right. This is either overrated estimation of the strength of quantum bits, or IBM/Qiskit are angels. While elliptic curve and RSA encryption are different, 160 bit elliptic curve is not used in bitcoin. I would say in order to find a private key by knowing the public key in secp256k1 (bitcoin) you'd need to crack a 2048 RSA key. I might be wrong. According to my own knowledge, the security of bitcoin is 128 bit, if I'm not wrong we'd need to do 2^128 operations to find the target private key. I would say a very *strong QC, could crack the 2^80 operations in a few days, considering they have a few million terabyte in RAM. *= in 15 years from now. I get it now .. Thanks 👍 |
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This is the fundamental problem that people don't understand. The vulnerability is in ECDSA, not the SHA256 hash function.
It's the opposite, FYI ECDSA and SHA-256 are entirely different, they just happened to operate in the same bit range. SHA-256 is used all around the world for many purposes and is more prone to fail from a collision attack. In ECDSA, more specifically in bitcoin, you have a barrier called computation cost, whilst in SHA-256 you don't need to compute so much as you need to do in bitcoin. I believe no one with a quantum computer would directly and publicly attack bitcoin addresses, not everyone is a criminal. As history is my witness, technology/ knowledge, is not given to a certain group of people, it's given to many in different parts of the world, that's why we have pyramid shape structures all over the world, that's why we usually hear different names when we talk about the greatest inventions, the knowledge is somewhat evenly distributed in a timely manner. Point being, if the bad guys have their weapons, the good guys also have their defense system. Well said .. i just showed the gentleman that when using pub key attack you would be 1 billion trillion times faster than mere sha256 cracking .. although the it's not even always the case unless you're using BSGS and even then my numbers are too optimistic.. also by calculating private key from pub key, you are basically using compute units to make complex operations other than simply iterating through hexadecimals then converting them to hash160 like the case with private key cracking .. and yet somehow my words aren't convincing.. But let's assume we are using Kangaroo to attack with pub keys, my last example was a VERY optimistic scenario that resulted in 23 million years of work to arrive at an address .. here is the same example in plain text for those reading this .. let's say you use a code that acts like JeanLuc's kangaroo on quantum computers after creating the quantum circuit correctly, all this means is that you are a few billion trillion times faster (again, absurdly optimistic numbers) than cracking using say a quantum code equivalent to bitcrack.. you're still left with more than a dozen million years because guess what, you have no idea where this pub key will eventually land .. However, luck always scares me when it works in the favor of an attacker, a malicious attacker could run such code in a random mode and hope to land by coincidence on an address with balance .. at least they have an advantage of more speed .. say roughly a billion times faster than a powerful classic PC. Problem is, it's still bound to luck.. because without luck, a billion times faster in ECDSA is just peanuts. Actually No, even peanuts is an overstatement. But yet again, luck knows no laws. It's just it.
This is quoted from RESEARCHGATE website: We show in some detail how to implement Shor's efficient quantum algorithm for discrete logarithms for the particular case of elliptic curve groups. It turns out that for this problem a smaller quantum computer can solve problems further beyond current computing than for integer factorisation. A 160 bit elliptic curve cryptographic key could be broken on a quantum computer using around 1000 qubits while factoring the security-wise equivalent 1024 bit RSA modulus would require about 2000 qubits.
Someone enlighten me, if the above was true.. why isn't Qiskit or IBM a dozen billion dollars richer? According to the abstract above, they both clearly have the qubits necessary to attack ECDSA with Shor lol . Something is not right. This is either overrated estimation of the strength of quantum bits, or IBM/Qiskit are angels. |
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