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101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone following the ebola outbreak? on: November 11, 2014, 04:46:27 AM
There had been a number of cases when someone would get sick and then claim to have just gotten back from Africa only to have their claim debunked by the lack of travel records and confirmation by their employer that they have been at work, in the US, during the time they claimed to have been traveling.

What a bizarre claim. Do you have any evidence for this?
There was a case in DC when someone was throwing up on a bus near the pentagon who was claiming they had just gotten back from east Africa
There is possibly a thousand false alarms for every credible case.
http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-false-alarms-us-escalate-hysteria-spreads-1708073
Lots of folks crying wolf.
They are/were probably hoping to get people to "donate" to them and their families to "help them get past" their exposure to ebola.
102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheist must swear to God -- or leave US Air Force on: November 11, 2014, 04:42:30 AM
Apparently, Air Force decided to remove the requirement on the same day as the article came out. http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140917/NEWS/309170066/Air-Force-nixes-help-me-God-requirement-oaths

I really think this thread is much ado about nothing.  Many phrases are ingrained in language itself, and are used commonly and flippantly, and have no meaning such as the OP alleges.  That is a cultural heritage. 

And FYI, English isn't so bad.  Try Spanish, see how many slang and common phrases "invoke the Deity".


This is true. Although some people really think about what they are saying before they say something and if it is against their beliefs they will have a problem with it.

I am however surprised the airforce did not previously give an option to give an affirmation
103  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Using bitcoin to predict election results on: November 11, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
This is generally not something that is very accurate as there is a lot that can affect the outcome of an election, and most of what can potentially affect the outcome is not know to the "markets" that make up the prediction markets
104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Today was a good day... on: November 11, 2014, 04:35:14 AM


Obama Flashback: ‘If you don’t like my policies, go out there and win an election.’


The following clip is from October 17, 2013. The government shutdown, during which Obama’s government had locked veterans out of their own memorials and shut down self-sufficient businesses in national parks, had just ended.

President Obama reacted by challenging his opponents to win elections.

And we responded: Challenge accepted!

The 2014 midterms saw Republicans capture the Senate, take over the entire government of the state of Nevada, and sweep Democrats out of state legislatures across the country. The GOP victory is so sweeping that it may damage Democrats for years, even decades, to come — according to the leftists at Vox.

On October 17, 2013, President Obama said: “You don’t like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election. Push to change it. But don’t break it. Don’t break what our predecessors spent over two centuries building. That’s not being faithful to what this country’s about.”

Obama’s threat to carry out a unilateral amnesty for millions of illegal aliens threatens the system that he claimed to defend just over a year ago. And he is well aware of that.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/11/06/obama-flashback-if-you-dont-like-my-policies-go-out-there-and-win-an-election/



I guess they did that. Too bad Republicans are the only other choice.
While both parties are somewhat similar as neither party wants to have any kind of radical changes to the US they are different on many issues and there are also many public officials that do not affiliate with either party
105  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: November 11, 2014, 04:32:57 AM
I think, though that instead of endorsing a "spirit of hopelessness" as to the realistic ability to enact significant change and a return to the rule of law, various IRS and AJ officials should be targeted for impeachment.

I am not suggesting any targeting of people who cannot be shown or proven to engage in unlawful behavior, though.  Offhand I don't know if IRS officials remaining have evidence against them that rises to this level.

Holder and Lerner have fled.  Many others would (and should) and perhaps this would set an atmosphere in which these administrative agencies would do better than just grovel at the feet of the wanna be king.
It is not easy to impeach a government official. Even when the evidence is there, the process will turn out to be a political one and the democrats will likely try to stonewall any impeachment (as they have the investigation into the IRS) and would likely vote against impeachment regardless of any evidence presented.

This is not necessarily true.  You are suggesting that rank and file Democrats would line up and protect IRS administrators, who (assuming guilt for the minute) acted illegally although on suggestion to do so by the White House.

The guilt is of the IRS administrator strictly.

Democrats should fear the possibility that the next administration may well be Republican and would use the same tactics against them.  It is only necessary to pick up 60 votes in the Senate to do this. 

I view it as appropriate and just if in fact IRS adminstrators can be proven guilty.

This is very different than suggesting impeach Obama.
You are assuming that it was not high ranking officials that ordered the illegal investigations. You are also assuming that the rank-and-file democrats were not made aware of the investigations ahead of time.

The chairman of the committee investigating the IRS in the senate has essentially said that nothing happened

AFRAID I'll just beg to differ with his sorry lying face.

We'll see what the new chair of that committee says.
The democrats generally want this issue to "go away" because they know it benefited them greatly and generally have a consensus that anything that is discovered as a result of any investigation would not be good for them
106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cop arrests random girl, takes her cell, steals nudes on: November 11, 2014, 04:26:27 AM
It takes six years to learn the law but only six months to be handed a badge and a gun to enforce it
This is why there are checks and balances that prevent the police from giving sentences to people that allegedly break the law. 

Actually, there aren't. You can get charged for obstruction of justice for merely observing a police officer and documenting the scenario (your first amendment right)
You can get charged with any crime for any reason at all, however it is up to the courts to determine if a law has actually been broken. Obstruction of justice and resisting arrest are two very common crimes for people to be charged with however they are also crimes that are rarely prosecuted and have a very low conviction rate
107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It's Illegal to Feed the Homeless in Florida... WTF? on: November 11, 2014, 04:19:20 AM
wow another reason to not live in florida.... Thats the most insane law I have heard of

Some of the bylaws cities and states create in the US are just plain weird.
The homeless people ban is one of them, but I like the beach party comparison ^^.

I don't know about laws, but stuff similar to this doesn't happen only in Florida. Wasn't it in the UK that some people started installing anti-homeless spikes on the ground outside the buildings? And something like it was going on in Chicago as well.
There are similar "spikes" under bridges and benches are designed so it is not possible to sleep on them in many cities across the US. These kinds of things are going to give people incentives to get "off the street"
108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Arrested for feeding homeless people on: November 11, 2014, 04:16:23 AM
Not sure why a city thinks they need to regulate this man's charity. There seem to be more homeless now than ever in my lifetime. Keeping them out of site isn't going to make them go away.

If we stop feeding them there will be less homeless than ever in your lifetime.  Survival of the least lazy.   Wink
+1 on this (maybe not less homeless people, but less people who don't have money to eat). If you cut off a person's lifeline then they will find a way to get the money to support themselves which will generally mean to get a job and/or spend less money on frivolous things.
109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The transaction fee is just ridiculous. on: November 11, 2014, 04:02:36 AM
Here is a more recent transaction:

https://blockchain.info/tx/32110c84009bcc3cd77ba4535f7e86813a54747fe9c1e9176dc83961e9ea8a5e

In bitcoin:
Total Output: 1,906.98281757 BTC
Fees: 0.0005 BTC

In USD:
Total Output: $ 702,990.15
Fees: $ 0.18

Confirmed and included in a block in 4 minutes.

They overpaid for their TX fee (although the TX did have a "lot" of inputs) by a factor of ~5. It is less clear in this case, however many use cases of bitcoin do not require a 10 minute (or a 4 minute) confirmation, as many uses only need a TX to be "eventually" confirmed after a much longer time (hours or a day)
110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SilkRoad 2 Taken down by Feds on: November 11, 2014, 03:57:53 AM
why in the world would anyone risk selling / buying on these markets right now. Its like robbing a stapler from a police department. Your asking for trouble
People trade on these markets because they feel like it is more safe then buying/selling on the "streets" as you are at risk of violence when you deal in illegal items on the "street"
111  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: OpenBazaar Beta 3.0 is released with Windows version. Finally! on: November 11, 2014, 03:54:14 AM
Unless both sides of a contract can be cryptographically verified that each term has been fulfilled then it will not be of much good. Both multisig arbitration and the reputation system relies on people to continue to be honest. We have seen many times on these forums that people who were previously honest to pull either a long con or to scam large amounts after a history of being honest.

Except arbitration on SR1 and SR2 typically worked really good for almost every transaction over years.... and this is a better version of that.
The reason why arbitration worked so well was because the seller would almost always agree to either give a partial refund or agree to "reship" a portion of the customer's order. This means that either the buyer or the seller was getting something they should not have, even though both parties would be "happy" about the resolution.
112  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: New York State Continues Its Path To Regulating Virtual Currency on: November 11, 2014, 03:47:18 AM
New York is trying to protect consumers and prevent illegal activity by regulating cryptocurrency.

http://www.ibtimes.com/bitcoin-new-york-state-continues-its-path-regulating-virtual-currency-1721103
There is an argument both ways if this will be good for bitcoin or not. One one hand the ideology of people that use and own bitcon are very much against any regulation in any form. One the other hand this regulation has the potential to give bitcoin an incremental level of credibility and disassociate itself from the many illegal uses that it is associated with.
113  Other / Meta / Re: ** REQUESTING MODERATOR ** on: November 11, 2014, 03:40:30 AM
I would suggest posting in the correct section (meta) regarding this.

You are awarded a potential 14 activity points for every two week period that you post in. Your activity will always be equal to or less then your total number of posts.
114  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Only 900 Nodes.. on: November 11, 2014, 03:34:35 AM

7000 nodes is a big or a small amount? A few month ago was more or less full nodes? Tongue

Slow and steady decline -
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/04/28/bitnodes-io-indicates-60-day-decline-bitcoin-nodes/

Avg 9500 early this year and 7800 avg 6 months ago.
Maybe BTC protocol should introduce something similar to PoS to encourage people to have full node opened? Tongue
Probably not a good idea. PoS coins are too easy to attack
115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Other than Bitcointalk on: November 11, 2014, 03:29:45 AM
have a look at http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin, there are many users there.
is this moderated or not
Yes. Theymos is actually one of the moderators on this subreddit

Crypto Infinity or https://cryptoinfinity.com is another unique crypto currency community with a live chat and game section that allows members to play classic games like frogger, pacman donkey kong and more for chances to win currencies.
There's a few active Facebook groups too (can't tell you the groupnames, no facebook access now but you can search)
thereis also cryptocointalk
I think there are a few active Russian and Spanish forums, but BitcoinTalk and Reddit are the main English speaking forums primarily for Bitcoins. I can find some active Bitcoin topics on non-crypto related forums too.
The number of participants on these forums are a fraction of the participants that bitcointalk has. The likely reason is because this is the forum that satoshi participated in and likely monitors at least to an extent.
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EUROPOL THREAT !!! on: November 11, 2014, 03:24:15 AM
Evidence? And what community is this? There's always people who accuse every market of being a honeypot usually just based on suspicion and paranoia. I don't doubt they try infiltrate them, but wouldn't setting up your own black market be entrapment or at the very least just plain illegal?
Well, the FBI has a long history of using entrapment as it's primary tool.  I do not think it really matters what legalese they use to justify or permit it, it is the way it is.

There would definitely be some of us they would not want on juries...
I would say that it is a bit of a stretch to say that entrapment is the primary tool the FBI uses. I would say that some of what they do is 'on the border' and many people would probably not like their tactics however it would probably not be considered to be entrapment
117  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitstamp Login Problems on: November 11, 2014, 03:22:02 AM
Is your account potentially not verified (as in AML/KYC verified) as they are going to start to lock people out of their accounts in ~3 days if they are not AML/KYC verified and it would be possible that they jumped the gun a little bit
118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DO NOT GIVE THE GOVERNMENT ANY INFORMATION ABOUT BITCOIN on: November 11, 2014, 03:18:34 AM
Quote from: TKeenan link=topic=845955.msg9446705#omsg9446705 date=1415203613
OP does have a point, Satoshi did walk away the moment Gavin accepted the invitation to speak with the CIA. Coincidence?

YES THAT WAS TOTALLY AND COMPLEETLY A COINCEDENCE!!!! HE WUZ PLANNING ON LEAVING WAY BEFORE THAT!

I THINK THE OP IS RIGHT, SO I'M GONNA MOVE THE SOURCE CODE TO SUMPLACE MORE SECURE WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T SEE IT ANYMORE. AND I WENT AND GOT ME A GOOD HAT TO WEAR WHEN I WRITE CODE SO THEIR SATELITES CANT HEAR ME EITHER.

FOR THE CHILDREN!
Is this the real Gavin?  Maybe someone hacked his account.  I didn't expect that he had a sense of humor.  Too much stress to still be funny.  can anyone confirm?
He is being sarcastic. He is trying to get across a point that having bitcoin be open source is much better then it be closed source and the government not have access to information about bitcoin

Or maybe I just ate too much peyote one night (and, happily, decided to read bitcointalk instead of write some code).

(and for the humor-impaired: NO, NOT SERIOUS. Everybody knows I don't eat peyote, I spend my money on hookers and blow.)
I think that gavin can be officially be added to the short list of people who are able to successfully troll the trolls who do not have a good understanding of Bitcoin related concepts.

Slightly off topic - the OP of the thread you posted to said that you actually gave a presentation (I always thought it was a more of a interview type meeting about bitcoin)....do you potentially have the ability to show this presentation, or would "you need to kill me if you told me"
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto! on: November 11, 2014, 03:10:44 AM
Dont they give one for economics or something similar? John Nash won one with his game theory, so you would think it would fit in the same category.
Yes, the economics nobel prize is one of the more "major" prize they give out and is, IMO, the most valuable nobel prize. I would say that if it were possible to give an anonymous person such as satoshi a nobel prize then he would likely win one in economics. However I highly doubt that he would come forward to claim his prize. 
120  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: OpenBazaar Beta 3.0 is released with Windows version. Finally! on: November 11, 2014, 03:08:42 AM
Wow, watching people set their minds on OpenBazaar and completely ignore any alternatives is quite hilarious.

FreeMarket has been out for a few weeks now. The first release was basically an open beta, and the first big update was November 9. It needs more buyers and sellers, but it is definitely showing promise and is functional. It is completely decentralized and runs on the Nxt blockchain. It is not a 'clone' of anything, it is completely original code.

https://nxtforum.org/freemarket/

Are people actively buying cocaine and heroin with "FreeMarket " right now?

I don't care for these products except for the fact that this is the true test of how secure the decentralized marketplace is.

FYI..... Bitcoin has already had working decentralized marketplaces for some time now- 4/29/2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589578.0


The reason why eBay has such strong buyer protections is because there are so many seller side scams. I don't see any reason why OpenBazaar would be any different.

Multisig arbitration, and ricardian contracts on top of reputation systems.
Unless both sides of a contract can be cryptographically verified that each term has been fulfilled then it will not be of much good. Both multisig arbitration and the reputation system relies on people to continue to be honest. We have seen many times on these forums that people who were previously honest to pull either a long con or to scam large amounts after a history of being honest.
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