I am somewhat concerned by this since I have a large order of singles that still have not been shipped to me. Basically it means in order to stay competitive the investment I had secured needed to be 50% larger then what I got. My order is not scheduled to arrive until late July or early August and that is only 2-3 months from when the ASIC product would come out.
With all things staying even that is like $100 a month per single without any kind of power costs taken into account. So while I guess you would maybe pay off half of the single if you did nothing but sell the coins to pay yourself back, you would still be $300 per single short of replacing them with the ASIC product.
Of course that is also if they ship in October, the price and difficulty stay the same, and there is a reasonable turn around time from when you order and turn off the singles and ship them to BFL before you get your replacement hardware. It would be pretty horrible if you order, and then turn off the singles/mini rigs you have to only wait 2 months or more to get the new ASIC.
I think if you could secure your order with a credit card they would ship you the entire shipment of ASIC products and once you get them you could send back the singles/rigs for a refund to the card. Maybe I missed it but it seems this trade in policy seems more clunky then it should be.
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My usual pool was behind in luck so I decided to try the gpumax service and purchased an initial 20000 premium shares using high priority..
Well that was over 7 hours and 40 confirmations ago. How long am I expected to wait for these shares to kick in?
I had a similar problem and they advised me to email their support team or jump into IRC to let them know.
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Looking forward to getting in on this. Want to start buying hashing power so badly it's burning a hole in my wallet.
You can just go here: https://glbse.com/asset/view/GIGAMINING and buy as much as you want. Get those darn BTC out of your wallet before they melt all of your credit cards. ... how is that anything like a gpumax purchase? I would actually like to know the answer to that. What is the main differences for the buyer when choosing between buying mining shares on gpumax and buying mining shares on glbse? I would assume with the glbse purchase the owner can point their equipment at say a 110% pool or Max and make their cut while paying the share holders a flat payout based on PPS. While someone who buys from GPUMax can point their cannon at a hopper pool and try and beat the odds.
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Looking for $1600 in MTGOX USD/BTC. I have Dwolla.
I have $160 MTGOX USD. Let me know in PM if you are interested. Thanks, but I didn't get responses from some PMs I sent today so I decided to send it directly to MTGOX thinking it would go through since I am fully verified with Dwolla. Apparently there is still a delay to MTGOX and they won't let you cancel the transaction through Dwolla.
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Looking for $1600 in MTGOX USD/BTC. I have Dwolla.
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Now that there are quite a few 7970 owners out there, have any of you taken the time to check the ASIC Quality percentages from each of your cards ?
I currently have 15x 7970s running 5-card per rig x 3. Doing a few 'spot checks' I have noticed that there is a bit of a variance of ASIC Quality readings from some of my cards.
My lowest ASIC Quality % seems to be about 65+%, with the highest being just shy of 90%.....the rest in the high 70% / mid-to-low 80% range.
I am wondering if it would be worth my time testing and separating the 15 cards into my 3 rigs, based on ASIC Quality, to further 'fine-tune' under-voltaging and overclocking ? For instance, make a 60+% rig, a 70+% rig and finally an 80+% rig all based on what GPU-Z tells me.
Has anyone gone this deep into their setups yet ? ...or taken advantage of the ASIC Quality Readings now available ?
I have returned or exchanged every one of the cards with very low ASIC quality. I have had nothing but problems with high temps and crashes on ones that are in the 60-70% range. I of course first contact the mfg and give them the temps and numbers I am seeing and they give me the okay to return them to the store. Also I found buying the overclocked editions usually resulted in higher ASIC quality and lower thermals. I am not sure if they are just binned that way or what, but my last batch of basic HIS cards were all returned because they were complete crap for thermals and ASICs. When I say crap, I mean 65C idle 85C playing Diablo 3.
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I started purchasing 5XXX series cards from places like [H] where I thought the cards would be more reliable. I have lost a 5850, 2x 5970s and a 5870 before they returned half their purchase price.
I will take cheap 7970s with warranties for now. I think if you got in with new 5XXX series cards that still have warranty options they are better, but I can't justify the risk anymore.
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So I did some basic math at 11 cents per KW. With all the component costs static and the only difference being your 5 cards versus 4 cards at different clocks.
I have 1150w producing 2600 hash to your 865 watts and 2825 hash. That is with 4 and 5 cards respectively.
When you add in the extra cost of the 5th card you will generate 2% more money in the same 8 month period of time if you sell your cards for the same per card amount as the 4 card user.
That is based on someone buying 7970s about a month or so ago and mining until the reward halfs.
That is if I did my math correct.
If the difficulty stays the same and the price stays the same after the reward halfs you would be making about $1.10 more per day per rig than the person with the stock voltage 1100mhz miner.
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I put a link to the cards I am using at the bottom of my post above.
Thanks for that. It seems like the Gigabyte cards are the ones that can get lowered in voltage the most. My HIS cards take a total shit with anything less than 1.1. You cards and another posters are both getting great voltage numbers and both are running GB cards. I have 36 7970s now and none of them are Gigabyte. I have 24 XFX Black Editions and 12 HIS. I am not super happy with either's performance. Edit: Any plans to release your custom monitor code?
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To get the most I could (power out of 15A home circuits that is...), I used two circuits (15A each) to split 3 rigs onto.....that looks like this:
(1 full machine & 'in-window' twin cooling fan per circuit, 3rd rig split over 2 circuits to keep from blowing breaker) Circuit A also has a Dell 24port 10/100 switch (almost forgot about that...lol
All cards running @ 950Mhz GPU / 900Mhz Mem @ 1.02V, 565MH/s per card....(using CGMiner 2.4.1 defaults, Win7 x64)
Both of the remaining 4-card rigs will also get their 5th 7970's installed as soon as the cards arrive.
Hope this helps some people, or gives a few ideas for those wondering....
For those wondering about specific setup...(not including the obvious single power supply 5-card/1200W PSU Rig)...
On the 2x PSU rigs, I use the 850's to power the Motherboard/CPU/HDD + 2 Video Card's External 8pin/6pin connectors (and of course all PCIe Slot Power by association). The Secondary 650's get used for external Video Card power to the 6pin/8pin connectors to the 3rd, 4th and 5th cards (and perhaps additional cooling fans if required in the future).
Can you link to the model cards you are using? I have been using XFX Blacks and bought several of the HIS when they were on sale on Newegg Business. I have not been able to get them stable at the voltages you are setting with yours. Another poster was able to run his Gigabyte cards with the triple fan setup at .88V. So before I order more cards I like to see the other options.
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I did a 30 day loan and it was paid promptly. Wish there was more capacity!
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UpdateUpdates are starting to trickle out. The following have been published:- Pool Active/Inactive
- Delete Pools
Many more to come, enjoy. Nice work.
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Flashed one cool one of mine and it is now 857 up from 816. Temps still around 56 degrees. Very nice work BFL. Flashed one of mine and also getting 857, but my temps are 49C.
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If it still is under warranty, I would contact the maker to see what they suggest. Most of the time when I report temps like that they RMA the card for me.
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wow, i get solid 700Mhash/card with cgminer.exe -o http://eu.ozco.in:8332 -u graet.20 -p p -o http://us.ozco.in:8332 -u graet.20 -p p -I 9 -k poclbm --auto-fan --gpu-engine 1050-1185 --auto-gpu --gpu-vddc 0.88 --temp-target 75,95 --temp-overheat 95,115 temp stuff for 2nd card is high as it runs hot and cgminer throttles it and save ~30W/card over default voltages Windows? Driver version? Card version?
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Nice photos. When you can, would you mind going over what you used to change the mem clocks?
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They're 7970s? Pretty much all of them are reference? What information were you looking for?
You guys have convinced me to drain my loop and do no-card/single-card tests tonight.
I already told you what I was looking for. Model, maybe the specific tools used to measure the outputs? Pictures? What tools used to set the speeds? How long of a mine to determine stability? Why are you being so hostel? I own 20 7970s. I have 12 more on the way and I will let you know what I find with them. Not one of them has been able to replicate that posts findings for long term stability mining purposes. However, all of my cards are XFX Reference Design Blacks. What can possibly get hurt by sharing more information?
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