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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash Miner - easy-to-use best-profit multi-device cryptocurrency miner on: July 11, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Seen this a few times today... Is this an error? Only happens for a few seconds, then it goes back to 2,5 - 3 euros.



It's likely right.  It all depends on how much the buyers are willing to pay for an algorithm.  You get what the buyers are paying.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][HashTap™][FlexFee™] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: July 11, 2017, 10:10:26 PM
Ook, Jaerin, but why do I c my hashrate added to the coin I specify only? And why if I mine the exact coin alone (smtms it happens), I'm the only block finder?

Because you're the only one mining it.  Fact is you're pointing it at one port for all the coins.  Maybe there is logic to make it mine the coin that you specify for payout, but that doesn't change that it appears to be crediting you with the mBTC value of the coins not the coins themselves.  The difference between this pool and Yiimp is there is auto-exchange.  The site even says the payout in non-BTC has been minimally tested.  So by all means report it as a bug if you think so, but saying that it is theft is just FUD.
103  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 09:49:31 PM
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How so?  The codes are only valid for those people's accounts...



Again Jaerin why do you insist on sticking up for this site?  You must have some connection with it.

It won't be shocking if that's one of the admin's other accounts. After all, the current and official one already has a negative trust.

I have a post history feel free to read through it.

Perhaps but I've seen someone impersonate a person and their entire friend base for months.

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It's just as likely that you're vested in some other project and only care to tear this one down.  I don't think that's true, but I can speculate about it just like you can.

Browse through the early pages of this thread before they started showing their true colors and way before you came here, you might stumble upon my posts.

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You guys seem like you feel slighted because you didn't get your free earnings, but instead of moving on you just keep putting more into it.

I'm sure you'd love for us to move on and stop pointing out the issues. And I'm 40+K away from their previous withdrawal limit, feeling slighted is hardly a factor.

I don't care what you do honestly.  Keep calling it a scam over and over all you want.  Just seems like a waste of time to me that is probably just as much work as the clicks to get to the 550k payout level.  At least then you might get something from it other than whatever you feel by tearing it down.

Where have I told people to do anything other than look at the risk and decide for yourself if you want to do it?

Why would I be mentioning the risk of it failing if I was supposed to be promoting its success?

I'm a freebie user that started after the rules changed and I'm sitting at like 15k satoshi and wasted my first 30k on an inactive referral.  Nothing lost but a few clicks.  Like all these sites I only browse them in chrome in a VM so even if it is malware ridden piece of shit all I do is revert to snapshot and it's all gone.  All the popups just pop to separate tabs in my setup so not sure why you seem to find it so annoying.  The most annoying thing is having to solve like 5 recaptcha which is nothing if it ends up paying out.  If not then it is like all the other free stuff for nothing effort sites that have died over the years, little risk for little reward.  I find it no different than investing in a shitcoin that might never pan out, but with this there is nothing but clicks to use.

As for your other faucets, congrats you made a whole $9 for all your efforts on those.  Seems like a logical place to spend some time.  This one at least seems like if all continues to go as the math works out you could be making 4BTC/month.  I doubt it will last that long, but nothing to lose.
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MAX] MaxCoin - Alive and Kickin' on: July 11, 2017, 09:26:23 PM
Big breaking news!

Maxcoin mentioned at FOX Business, watch and enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-F64kGHZU

LOL Steve Baldwin?  That is not someone who I'd want promoting my cryptocurrency.  What successful things have you ever heard him doing?

Best thing he's done is pick up the scraps from his brothers.  Such blind support of Trump too.
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][HashTap™][FlexFee™] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: July 11, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
Except you still haven't said how it is that you mine a coin directly on zpool. 

What d u mean? "c" pass option? RFM  Grin

No, that is the coin you want to be PAID in.  Not the coin you want to mine.  You mine the entire algorithm pool including all coins within and get paid what you have in your c=XXX setting.  That's why when you put c=BTC you get PAID in BTC.  You can't mine BTC with all the different algorithms.
106  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 09:01:11 PM
Why do you insist on slamming the site?  I have no connection with it other than hoping it continues to pay out.

If you don't like it then why bother continuing to read through the thread and make speculative comments about how it is going to fail?

Because he stole from me by making me waste my time on his site while he collected ad revenue and then changed the rules and refused to pay me. 

Makes sense for you to keep putting more time and energy into it, especially the type that definitely will not pay anything out.

Let's look at the two scenarios that could happen:

1) The site keeps paying out and people keep posting withdrawals in light of you and others posting about how much of a scam it is.  Result you gain nothing, and you decide either to join in or move on.
2) The site fails to pay out and people get screwed.  Result you gain nothing, but I guess you get to gloat about how you were right all along and you make the people feel worse about having trusted the site. 

Either of those things could happen, but only one of them seems like what you are hoping to happen.  Is your goal simply to be right about something no matter what it is even if that means trying to tear down something you feel wronged you?  You're never going to get those clicks back so why waste your time on ones that will never produce anything other than trolling a forum post?  I mean what do you gain by trying to warn people about risks they should already be well aware of?

How so?  The codes are only valid for those people's accounts...



Again Jaerin why do you insist on sticking up for this site?  You must have some connection with it.

It won't be shocking if that's one of the admin's other accounts. After all, the current and official one already has a negative trust.

I have a post history feel free to read through it.  It's just as likely that you're vested in some other project and only care to tear this one down.  I don't think that's true, but I can speculate about it just like you can.

You guys seem like you feel slighted because you didn't get your free earnings, but instead of moving on you just keep putting more into it.
107  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 06:24:55 PM
Why do you insist on slamming the site?  I have no connection with it other than hoping it continues to pay out.

If you don't like it then why bother continuing to read through the thread and make speculative comments about how it is going to fail?
108  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 05:46:34 PM
How so?  The codes are only valid for those people's accounts...

109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][HashTap™][FlexFee™] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: July 11, 2017, 05:27:38 PM
so why would you be so insistent to mine here knowing that the purpose is to auto-exchange coins for multiple algorithms?

It is not about insisting on mining here, it is about 'the purpose' is described nowhere at zpool. To be precise, it is not described that you loose double exchange + double-to-quadruple transaction fees when directly mining preferred coin. It is not theft (there are two theft-like cases with me, but I'm not calling it 'theft'... yet), it is fraud.

Except you still haven't said how it is that you mine a coin directly on zpool. 
110  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 03:00:28 PM
Of course you see hundreds of posts from new accounts getting payouts up until now, there is incentive to do just that.  Now that the rules have changed we will see how many legitimate payouts there are over time.  

Everyone should be evaluating the risks involved with any of their activity and decide if it is for them or not.  And you're right it does seem suspiciously high payouts, and should be approached with caution.  If you don't like it then don't do it.

jimmy55 you're hardly the first.



Agreed, but  one big thing : they offer to buy stuff. So that changes everything.

It doesn't change anything other than the minimum you need before being able to get a payout is 550k.  As I mentioned previously that first 500k is not all that different than any free-to-play game.  You can either grind it out and get everything for free or pay the money to get it quicker.  If you pay in you have 10 days of risk with the potential to withdraw 3x.  If you want to keep it going then it's essentially 2x your planet cost that you can take home every month.

111  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 02:24:48 PM
Of course you see hundreds of posts from new accounts getting payouts up until now, there is incentive to do just that.  Now that the rules have changed we will see how many legitimate payouts there are over time.  

Everyone should be evaluating the risks involved with any of their activity and decide if it is for them or not.  And you're right it does seem suspiciously high payouts, and should be approached with caution.  If you don't like it then don't do it.

jimmy55 you're hardly the first.

112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][HashTap™][FlexFee™] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: July 11, 2017, 02:14:28 PM
Actually that looks like that is likely what it is.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/machinecoin/

Puts the price currently at 0.00000269 BTC

That's .00269 mBTC

0.00679/0.00269 = 2.524163568773234



you are wrong, that price is 'sell MAC for 269', but you are not selling it, you are buying it so you should look for the other column, if you look @ market history today, there were orders complete for 335 - 10/07/2017 6:42:53 PM   Buy   0.00000335   100.00000000   0.00033500

there's your theft of the year!

How is it theft?  That would just demonstrate a display issue and show that the value is actually lower than you are seeing.  It doesn't change the possible idea that what is happening is that you are credited for the mBTC value of the coins when you mine them and then they get converted to the coin of your choice when they mature.  Maybe there should be code to make it more efficient by not exchanging coins and then paying them back, but that doesn't mean it is theft.  It just appears to be inefficient for your purposes.  You may not like the way the pool operates, but it is not doing anything shady that I can see.  It just isn't as straightforward as other pools.  The fact of the matter is that no one is forcing you to use this pool.  If you don't like how it operates then don't use it.  Not to mention the source code is available for your viewing so you can easily confirm how it operates yourself if you really want too.

I would say if you are trying to mine a coin directly without exchanging then there is no point in mining on Zpool.  The fees aren't the lowest out there so why would you be so insistent to mine here knowing that the purpose is to auto-exchange coins for multiple algorithms?
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][HashTap™][FlexFee™] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: July 11, 2017, 04:21:19 AM
I think something is wrong with the "total earned" number. Its going down.

I think there is something wrong with the markets....they keep going down.  That pretty much explains it all....
114  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 01:26:01 AM
Obvious that Bitcoin Dragon's kid reference was clearly right on the money.

Coming from the guy who spent over a thousand words trying to counter another guy only to prove him right? Might as well be talking to the birds.

Its pretty clear that you are because you're not making any sense to the humans in the room.  You pose simple questions to me and I willingly answer.  I do the same to you and you respond with a vague statement that still doesn't explain your point.  You see the 1000 words as a waste, but that clearly demonstrates to me that you couldn't form a complex thought longer than a tweet.


115  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 01:14:53 AM
Obvious that Bitcoin Dragon's kid reference was clearly right on the money.
116  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 11, 2017, 12:59:14 AM
I believe his vague idiocracy is trying to say that 3x profits isn't worth the investment.  That or perhaps that 50k Sat is too much for withdrawals.  The thing he doesn't seem to understand is that saying that you are LIMITED to 3x claims a day is a stupid way to say that you only make 50400sat for 3 clicks and fighting through the nothing ads and pop ups that happen when you do it.  That if you trust the site and continue with the process it will pay out 3x with almost no effort at all.  They aren't even that invasive of pop-ups.  They pop to other tabs and take you right back to the claim page.

The thing is that 50k is fixed so makes sense that it would be an incentive to upgrade further, or not withdraw every time you hit 50k.  As you say you either trust it or you don't.  If you don't then there really isn't a reason to spend so much time in the thread.
117  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 10, 2017, 10:43:09 PM
No the number of claims per day is irrelevant.  You buy a planet and get more Sats per minute.

 Huh Seeing as that - max claims per day - is exactly the point of contention I gotta ask, are you sure you even know what you're trying to argue against?

Obviously not because you're failing to make a point other than to disregard everything I'm writing.  What argument do you seem to think is being made?

See Bitcoin Dragon seems to understands it.  Why don't you clarify your point if we're not understanding it.
118  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 10, 2017, 10:30:55 PM
No the number of claims per day is irrelevant.  You buy a planet and get more Sats per minute.  That's all that matters.  Whether you claim them 3x per day or 10x per day is irrelevant.  You're not limited to 3x per day you are limited to 35sats/min which accumulate to a maximum every 8 hours if you don't claim them. 

So it is not limited to 3 claims per day, it is limited to 35Sats per minute.  Which is clearly stated as being the maximum payout of 3x your initial investment.

As for the ellipses you're right that was malik59's post that I attributed to you I apologize.
119  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: ★ ClaimWithMe ★ Most Paying Faucet Of All Times ☆ 13,890sat/min ☆ Free Bitcoins! on: July 10, 2017, 10:00:42 PM
Coiner you can claim any of the paid for planets maximum payout 3x per day.  

The thing you seem to be completely ignoring is WHY that is.  Also when you have to make those claims to get those planets to get the maximum payouts.

How many times can you claim Earth's maximum payout?
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][HashTap™][FlexFee™] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ on: July 10, 2017, 09:30:03 PM

Ook, u like loosing double transaction (BTC's bites!) + exchange fee? 10-20%? Now I'm testing the pool with 0% fee, immediate payout of confirmed crypto (if u mined it - u get. no exchange, only if u want to) and double hashrate vs zpool's. Scrypt only, it limits, for sure, but: ~110-120% daily net revenue at rented hashpower w/pool's autoswitch (sometimes it sucks), ~130-140% w/manual coin switching (I get real-time almost precise data) vs no breakdown (!!!) at zpool. Yep, I get pain in the ass selling alts twice a day in complicated ways, but this pays, only 1-2% transactions losses maximum (profit sometimes!), including BTC transfer to NH. And I hope my bot in development is ready and operational in 2-3 weeks.



Right if you want to mine a specific coin then you should mine on a pool that directly pays you that coin.  That makes the most sense because then you don't have any risk of the price fluctuating and losing value in trades.  That's not how Zpool appears to operate.  But that doesn't mean that Zpool is stealing anything.  It would be no different than if you mined on your 0% fee pool and the coins price dropped 20% before you could sell it out.  Except you're paying the transfer fees too and from the exchanges and you have to put in the labor to make sure the trades happen properly.  You get more control, but you have just as much risk in losing or gaining value.

If you don't like Zpool then don't mine on it, but it doesn't make any sense why you come here to complain that the pool should operate the way that you want it to operate.  If you can make more on another pool no one here or anywhere else is stopping you or trying to convince you not to do that.  Fact is if you run a Multi-algo switching miner and want someone to auto-exchange coins to BTC for you then Zpool is the best pool to mine that I've found.

If you want to sell your own coins and mine each coin directly then there are lots of pools out there that will pay you out directly and allow you to exchange them yourself.  You're asking the pool to operate in a way that it wasn't designed to operate.  I admit this information is not clearly spelled out anywhere on the pool site, but once you understand how it operates then it makes sense.  Could you make more somewhere else?  I bet you likely could, but you won't do it with as little effort as Zpool makes it.

Personally I haven't had any issues getting my payouts in either BTC or DGB, but I noticed that when I mined for DGB I could make more just mining it directly on something like Suprnova or theblocksfactory.  It wasn't 20% less and it could actually be potentially more than I could mine DGB directly depending on the values of other coins.  If you are mining a single algorithm and don't want to switch between all the coins that algorithm could potentially mine to maximize profits then again Zpool might be better and certainly would be more convenient than having to exchange all those different coins yourself.
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