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101  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: June 06, 2016, 10:58:56 AM
Keeping your btc and investing thru trading your btc at the same span of time will have a big difference in terms of profits.  (Just think of your money being deposited within a time limit in the bank it will surely have an interest.  And the bank will invest your money in which it will gain much profits thus giving you only the interest of your timed amount under the terms of the bank.)  So if you are serious in making more money use your resources to make it grow because the system's movement for btc's value to increase is not as fast as the trading cycle to make more profits.
102  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: June 06, 2016, 10:54:29 AM
trading can be good . but its so easy to lose money in short term trading, long term is easier but take more time.

Then why allow to lose money? Yes it's common for a day trader to lose money but can you at least minimize it.

And no, long term is not easy as you think. If you are into long term trading meaning taking advantage of the price rally, you must focus everyday in bitcoin price at least in 12h or 1d view. Price rally always happen at least in a minimum of a week or two.


When we invest we take the chances of gaining profits although in the process of doing so we make loses due to the risks that is always there to take its part.   But trading makes more profits than having it stocked in your wallet in the same time length.
103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 06, 2016, 10:39:37 AM
true is i didnt play gambling because im afraid to lose on that, but if ill try to play that i think when gambling give me a high profit i will stop playing that for surely im win Cheesy

all that happens is not as easy as you say.
when you win you will not be able to go away, you will find it hard to break free from gambling.
when you win you will try again with the hope of winning again and again ... but when you lose you will try to take back losses.
To gambling in a smart way is really hard and that is because you also dont even know what will happen later in the future and when the value is going to be more and you need to be lucky also.
The only thing that you have to do to gamble smart is that you have to play with small amounts so you are not losing that much money.

Placing small bets is playing defensively, it could be an act of being smart but not smart at all because in online gambling the players can't cheat so no need to be smart.  The house is always the smart one.
104  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: June 06, 2016, 10:28:22 AM
The best stratedgy is researching an altcoin that have a good road map and then make some small investment and do the most common biy when its low sell when you get a profit.
can i ask you a question?  Huh why they use altcoins for trading? and what is the purpose of altcoins? it can be use in other investment sites or not? im just confused  Grin dogecoins and litecoins are altcoins right?

I do not use altcoin to buy things. For me, the altcoin is just a tool to mine, then I will sell them for bitcoin.
yes altcoin only held for trading. This is now a wide range of new merchnat accept bitcoin as a means of payment. for altcoin still very rare. it takes time for altcoin to be able to match the greatness of bitcoin.


Go for bitcoin trading.  Practice the procedure in trading bitcoin to be well rehearsed in trading.  It is the most simple form of investing.  All you need is a trusted trading partner or keep in touch with your local traders and keep on doing the trading cycle to make your investment grow.
105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: June 06, 2016, 10:20:59 AM
To quit gambling for good would be totally easy since you are already a matured being knowing what to do, deciding on what you will do that is why you survived the years passing by your life is because of your decision to survived and keep on living as a human.  What more in giving up gambling.  Gambling is just an amusement way for being entertained with which you have been hook into it.  To quit is just to give it up stop playing and walk away from it if you cannot do it then you cannot control your way of thinking which means you need a psychiatric help to do it.  If psychiatric help wont be of any use at all then you need to be placed in a rehabilitation program.  We have such group having this kind of sessions look for one.
106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: June 06, 2016, 09:58:05 AM
That depends about what you want. If you have allot of money and thinks the casino is your lucky day then you need to go if you want. But i think investing would be many times better then just gambling your money.

Sometimes investing is even worse than gambling. There are a lot of scams who wnat your money so you should be very careful. If you are gambling you know you will lose, but if you are investing you think it's much more safe than gambling and that's a wrong way of thinking sometimes.


That is why some trading using bitcoin is like gambling because if by chance you had traded with a scammer then there is no fifty fifty chance that you can recover, it will be a hundred percent loss.  Even trading with reputable traders or with legitimate one's the threat of being scammed is still high.  Always trade with caution and be updated with trading partners status
107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: June 06, 2016, 09:00:00 AM
Trading is totally different from Gambling.  Thus you have to combine the two ideas like to gamble in trading which will mean trading similar to gambling.  To gamble in trading is making investments knowing that there will be a possibility to end up on big loses or a normal gains or big profits.  it is like taking a chance and all the result are maximum (Loosing everything or gaining).
108  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make a successful Trade? on: June 06, 2016, 08:38:05 AM
To be successful in trading better to study and experience losing first before you can learn how to trade and learn new strategy in trading.. honestly you can lowering the risk in trading and you can make a huge profit fast.. i am not successful in trading but this is my way.. buy low and selling high the same as other methods.. but you need a strategy to promote it or to lowering the risk.. of one of the altcoin you bought..


It is a nice strategy and I am on the process of practicing it to make trades more simple and faster to be doing with in the days to come.  Safe trading for me is more than the priority that I have in the first place so I keep myself wide aware of anything suspicious and doubtful.
okey but loosing bitcion is not important. we can start from gaining and can take a prfitable start. just need a full attention and concentration.


I agree with that keeping an eye on your investment is mainly keeping it moving positively gaining.
109  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Would this be a good idea? on: June 06, 2016, 07:24:13 AM
It would be a pretty good idea but I think if big company's will step in with such things you will not be used anymore for hits due to the fact it can be bought directly.


In the long run maybe in the future when trading will be accessible to anything and anywhere we could be seeing those big companies worming in the trading process but I think they will be automated.  These companies will be utilizing more on technologies adn not in man power.

Yes, Besides it would be a bit tricky act as intermediary between the buyer and companies due to things like returns of defective merchandise,guarantees or things like that. In that case him could start his own bussines model.


That could happen in worst case scenario if you are endorsing and supplying your products and will have damages returned it will be a great lose from your investments.
110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: June 06, 2016, 07:21:17 AM
Fun in gambling is when you enjoy the game no matter what result is whether lose or win, but a win would be more fun especially if you win a big amount just from small amount like hitting jackpot.



That's the real fun in gambling, you don't have to be drag down by your emotions when you loose otherwise you are not for the fun but for the luck and that is not fun anymore.  because you are aiming for a goal to win a huge luck which will eventually take a lot of bets.
111  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: June 06, 2016, 07:07:43 AM
In the overall holding is good and for a long time it can be be better in my eyes because the bitcoin indeed has a future a head that is pretty good.
We still should wait if everything will go like it has been planned and if it will gain more publicity, but if this is the fact the bitcoin is gonna be worth a lot on a long term.

Long term holding for really a long time will just give you a nice output if you holds really a lot of coins. Let's say you able to bought 1 bitcoin for the price of $250+ range last year and let's say the price today is around $550 and you decide to sold it. You just gained $300 in that long period of time. Not really worth it.

That's why I don't see holding too much is profitable if you don't have big bucks to hold.

it is an ok thing to do if you have some money to spare. for example if you have $1000 laying around in your bank account it is so much better to buy bitcoin with it instead and just hold it. bank gives you a very small amount in profit while you can double your money in a long term.

Im pointing for the "too much holding". With just a small quantity of coins to be use for holding purposes you can't feel much the profit and the time and patience you applied is not worth it, at least in my view.

If I have a spare money of $1000, I will use it for an active circulation rather to hold it for really a long term.

Holding can't increase the quantity of people coins but rather just it's value.

If will be used actively by taking advantage of every price rally, you can increase the quantity of it together with it's value.

I already made decent earnings in my more than 1 year of btc exchange trading journey.

Bottom line : All my moves depends on the price movement and price rally that will happen while on my journey of taking profits.

People here try to lend their coins and earn interest rates. There is no way to earn an interest by holding your coins unlike shares which pay you dividends per year and hence I prefer exchanging/trading them instead of just holding. If in future we do have a legit way of earning interest (not any ponzi/hyip website), it will be useful for us.


I can toast for that.  If you want to make money utilize it now so it can start its way to earn.  Investing is making what you have for a start to gain more along the way.  And holding it for a long period of time is not along the way but a long long way to make money.
112  Economy / Exchanges / Re: With Coinbase (apparently) going down, where do you go to sell your BTC? on: June 06, 2016, 06:39:52 AM
There a lot of local traders who are currently doing trades with localbitcoin, you have to also know them so when they are in need of bitcoin you can directly trade with them with care otherwise you definitely know each other where trust is just a high five.  Why transact to an unsecured trader when you can trade it at home.
113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: June 06, 2016, 06:31:11 AM
Like gambling the whole idea in sports betting is the same but the form of choices is more clear than in gambling since you can pick your choices on teams or an individual whom you have observed and evaluated their performances.  Sports betting can be similar like gambling because of the betting practices involved.  But unlike gambling sports betting is predictable while gambling is not, sports betting has minimal choices while gambling has a lot of chances that is why in sports betting you can predict and make a choice to bet with the assurance of a big chance of possibility to win.
114  Economy / Marketplace / Re: where can i invest my 1btc? on: June 06, 2016, 06:15:36 AM
There has been many different ideas or systematic ways presented in here so hopping you wont get confused on it as long as you understand how that particular investments works then the final decision is in your hands.  If until now you haven't made a choice due to the fact that all systematic ideas presented to you can all be applicable you can try it all by dividing your 1 btc in small amounts per type of investments then run it.  Starting small as they say.  If ever you will fail at least it is on a particular investment and not as a whole.
115  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: June 06, 2016, 06:06:46 AM
I think that the best investment is to hold your bitcoins. I see that in Brazil it has now reached US $ 679.89. Wow this is the best investment.

Are you sure?  What would be the reason for higher price?   If you look at exchanges it  has not reached
$600 yet in last days.


It could be a possibility to have an increase in value so if it is a possibility then it is also possible for the value to drop.  Hence the best investments is to perform it now when you can still make it grow or make it earn profits than wait for an unpredictable value in the future.  Does any one know the approximate value of btc after the halving? And how did you come up with that value if you ever have?  Give us an idea.
116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: June 06, 2016, 05:44:00 AM
average per game or per bet depends on the total amount that you will be betting and also depending on the duration for you to stay in the game is by estimating how many times you will be betting win or loose to the extent that you will not go above the median of your estimated limiting amount.  Going below will increase either the amount or the playing time.
117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: June 05, 2016, 11:31:29 AM
Am still thinking for t whom to go for it,   
Lorenzo or Marquez.    Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh  Last time was not a clear shot for me due to the sudden acceleration
118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: LUCK!!! :) How does it feels? on: June 05, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
I had a great run not long ago, deposited 0.005btc and tripled that pretty quick, withdraw my initial deposit and gambled the winnings turning that into 0.1btc within the next hour.

I came back the next day and gambled the 0.1 all the way up to 0.3btc then cashed out, that was 2 weeks ago so it might be time to try my luck again soon.


Seasoned players are really smart when it comes to betting.  Because betting in small amounts can bring nice wins and after the win a pause will happen while waiting for the next bet timing. 
If you are serious in gambling small amounts won't take you nowhere, the real gamblers, let's say for example in a sports betting scenarios if he can only win at least 5% of his total bankroll by the end of the season is already a good profit for him, so in order to not waste your time you need to set up a huge bankroll base on your expected win with a conservative projection of at least 5%.

Winning big starts from different amount in betting, some could start for a big bet trying to hit the chance of being lucky, for seasoned gamer's they prefer to play in small bets and having the winning bets do the roll up until such time to stop and en-cash the win because continued bets is not always a win.
119  Other / Off-topic / Re: FREE Hugs on: June 05, 2016, 03:00:53 AM
Wow.More than 930 replies to this thread.
World is full with lonely people. Undecided
 

wish we can get together.  Guinness world record. Smiley  Biggest group hugging in the world.
120  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: June 05, 2016, 02:57:30 AM
My personal recommendation would be to sit tight and wait for the halvening to increase the value of my btc. Other option would be some short term altcoin trading and trade back to btc.
yes i think its a very nice idea. i will recommend this idea for my self. i will also suggest my other friends to do so. i think me and my friends will get a benefit from your precious idea.

One way or the other as long as you are having good profits with it and as long as it is manageable, that is the best way for you to invest.
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