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101  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Mi hanno rubato da blockchain on: May 21, 2013, 01:05:09 PM
primi accessi bloccati grazie al blocco indirizzi tor:

Accesso tentativo bloccato

Time: 2013-05-16 03:29:28
IP Address: 171.25.193.235 (Sweden)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0
Reason: TOR ip addresses are blocked from this wallet.

Time: 2013-05-16 01:20:17
IP Address: 50.7.184.58 (Netherlands)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0
Reason: TOR ip addresses are blocked from this wallet.

Time: 2013-05-16 01:17:35
IP Address: 50.7.184.58 (Netherlands)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0
Reason: TOR ip addresses are blocked from this wallet.

Time: 2013-05-16 01:15:26
IP Address: 31.172.30.4 (Germany)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0
Reason: TOR ip addresses are blocked from this wallet.

grazie ancora del consiglio

0_0
vatti a fidare dei wallet elettronici senza doppia autenticazione...
102  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Servizi gratuiti on: May 21, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
monitor mercati

www.bitcoinity.org/markets
103  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ripple explained for Bitcoiners! on: May 21, 2013, 11:23:23 AM
mmmmm it's all wonderful, but i will not use ripple until they will implement google authenticator or yubikey.
104  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it true that the Fed is privately owned on: May 20, 2013, 12:07:54 PM
I like tit-for-tat as a moral standard myself, in part because "[it] is [] a highly effective strategy in game theory for the iterated prisoner's dilemma": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat

I would not hit anybody on the head, but if somebody hits me on the head, I will hit that guy on the head as well. I will not do it harder, I will not do it twice, but I will hit the dude on the head.

This approach to interactions can be seen as a parallel to the eye for an eye approach from Judeo-Christian-Islamic tradition, where the penalty for taking someone's eye is to lose one's own (cit from tit for tat wikipedia).

one thing is the self-defense, but...
what you say is an illusion for yourself but IS NOT TRUE,
because if someone hit you on the head, probably you are dead and you can't do anything.
So, is better to avoid all violent situations because you have not any control on when, where and what bad can happen to you.
Pro-Violence or not, it's the same.
I want to live without any paranoia.
And when i will die, i will die without having lived in paranoia or without doing any violence on nobody.
I know that this is only my opinion... an opinion from my very limited point of view.
regards
105  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it true that the Fed is privately owned on: May 20, 2013, 10:17:55 AM
Also, I got to agree with bonker, just because you don't want violence to exist or even won't use any violence yourself (ever), that does not mean nobody else won't either. If you believe that, that to me seems like a very naïve worldview to be honest.

i agree with you. but the fact that someone use violence, it's not a justification at all, for who accept this bad thing like a normal and civil thing.
106  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it true that the Fed is privately owned on: May 20, 2013, 08:12:25 AM
fed is a private institution governed by public citizen
or
a public institution governed by private citizens?

As I mentioned, your ridiculous system would collapse into mayhem within minutes.  Or perhaps you wouldn't recognise a bunch of crazed drug-addicts beating your empty skull in with baseball bats.

sorry for my bad english, but i would to tell you the same one thing.

perhaps is you that don't recognize anything Wink

let me do ONLY 1 exaple:
there are Big Countries governed by AN ALTERNATION OF OPPOSITE PUPPET GOVERNMENTS where Joung FAT ASSES take FIREARMS AT SUPERMARKET and dressin MIMETICAL way to SHOOT WITHOUT A REASON other people in the streets, in the office, in the bus, at school,
because they are a-lot-of-different-drugs-addict with the brain full of pharmacy stuff and meth...
And this schizophrenic are without any control, and there is no way to prevent them. No government that can do anything.

there are big countries where, after death penality they discover the innocence of a men, that pollute the same soil they live, that make war in asia for OIL a and after they spit on their veterans with P.T.S.D, that make war for peace and be violent to prevent violence, big country that are THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD THAT USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS and go to others sayin' "you cannot develop nuclear technology".

Perhaps you want to tell this when you speak about of a system that will collapse in some minutes, (ALREADY BEGUN TO COLLAPSE IMHO).
and where their citizen detain firearms in almost each house killing themselves, their families, their friends,
instead to fight the powers that make they sick.

In these Big Countries the only law is the LAW OF THE JUNGLE: peoples that win are peoples that have more power/money.

From "neanderthal age" to now, the "system" is always the same. No progress. No civilization. No education.
Only technological progress in the hands of peoples that have the same brain of aggressive monkey.
The framework change, but in the world there is "anarchy" (in the way you think) from century ago to now.

In the past, the more physical strongest peoples makes the rules. Now, rich peoples makes the rules.
That's anarchy intended by mainstream media, political puppet, an ignorant peoples.    

regards

 
107  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Taglio rating Slovenia - attenzione a Bitstamp on: May 20, 2013, 06:36:33 AM
Se sono arrivati a questo punto non sono messi benissimo...

La Slovenia vuole tassare la Chiesa



magari tassassero la nostra Grin

se lo facessero alla maniera dei lavoratori dipendenti saremmo ricchi!
108  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Taglio rating Slovenia - attenzione a Bitstamp on: May 16, 2013, 12:45:33 PM
declassamento di cinque banche

http://www.portalino.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1013424&catid=112:finance

vendita di beni pubblici e aumento dell'iva...

http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/notizie/2013-05-09/slovenia-vende-imprese-pubbliche-172557.shtml?uuid=AbJnTUuH

piano anticrack...

http://www.milanofinanza.it/news/dettaglio_news.asp?id=201305101741479337&chkAgenzie=TMFI&titolo=Slovenia,%20banche%20statali%20trasferiranno%203,3%20mld%20in%20bad%20bank

unicredit slovenia, che è la banca di bitstamp, non regge: perdite del 72% rispetto al Q1 dell'anno scorso

http://wire.seenews.com/news/unicredit-banka-slovenija-q1-net-profit-falls-72-y-y-352858

la situazione per loro non sembra migliorare


109  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MtGox - over 50 Bitcoins stolen on: May 16, 2013, 12:05:16 PM
update java&windows for security reasons?

you can install ubuntu, uninstall java, use very complicate passphrases added to yubikey or google autenticathor

in general, the pc you use for enterntainment must be different than the pc that you use to moving your money in:

bank account
e-payment services
bitcoin trading platform
postal services
online payments system of all websites

so sorry for you, and anyway and i will pay more attention in the future Wink
110  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Do you know how much time it takes to withdraw from mtgox to a bank account ? on: May 07, 2013, 02:18:27 PM
I see. That's scary. What do you think ? Do you have any news from them ? Do you think they'll not pay us ? ?

yeah really scary  Embarrassed

this is what i did:

i asked cancellation of sepa and a refund on mtgox euro account.
i converted again my euro in btc.
i withdraw all my btc from mtgox, and i deposited them in bitstamp.net
i convert again BTC in usd on bitstamp.net.
so the bitstamp's sepa arrived in two days without problems in my bank account.

imho is better to withdraw only BTC from mtgox, and sell them on another marketplace for now.

i don't know if they will pay you or not, but i think there will be a huge delay until they will change bank account or bank conditions.

but for sure
in this period there are some mistakes that in fact inhibit mtgox to let their customers to withdraw their money via sepa.
111  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Taglio rating Slovenia - attenzione a Bitstamp on: May 07, 2013, 09:56:14 AM
sempre più inquietante Embarrassed  
hanno downgradato anche una banca statale e una che ha debiti con lo stato.

http://www.sloveniatimes.com/moody%C2%B4s-continues-the-speculative-attack-on-slovenia

grazie dell' info Smiley

112  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: News in Italiano - Raccolta di link dei media in lingua italiana on: May 07, 2013, 09:19:35 AM

a vedere il nome del link per un attimo ho pensato che regalassero asic... magari come incentivo per i nuovi abbonati ^^

poi clicco sopra e... è l'ennesimo tutorial

significativo però che se ne parli pure sul sito fastweb ufficiale  Smiley
113  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: May 07, 2013, 09:12:26 AM
i asked for cancellation ,  if they could cancel it, it means the money is still at mtgox and nothing happen more than 28 days

#2. Their € account is empty and they need to wait till people fund their MtGox account with €'s so they can pay the withdrawal requesters.

U GOT IT
114  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Do you know how much time it takes to withdraw from mtgox to a bank account ? on: May 07, 2013, 09:10:31 AM
Other people who are complainng didn't you read that ?

yes, but simply what they say is not true, because in my case after 20 days i received nothing.
and there are other people in the same or worse situation.
if you have patience, read the link posted above.

however, a sepa must be executed in 1 WORKING DAY, by law,
it's not a joke where you have to extimate the day of arrival of a bank wire.
http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/payments/sepa/
115  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Do you know how much time it takes to withdraw from mtgox to a bank account ? on: May 07, 2013, 08:10:59 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.0;topicseen
116  Local / Annunci / Re: [TOPIC UFFICIALE] Litecoin on: April 30, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
il prezzo di un ltc in questi 10 ultimi giorni è andato dai 2.5 ai 4.3 usd
mica male  Smiley

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=10-days&resolution=hour&pair=ltc-usd&market=vircurex
117  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Bitstamp - un paio di quesiti on: April 30, 2013, 11:25:17 AM
andrebbero dichiarati ma non si sa come: se come vendita di beni immateriali (su cui pagarci l'irpef) o plusvalenza da compravendita di azioni/obbligazioni

ok, la cosa rimane vaga, ma è sempre e comunque un' informazione preziosa in un contesto molto confuso  Smiley

io direi che tra i due modi di dichiarare sceglierei quello che costa meno se possibile... già... ma... quale costa meno dei 2, a chi dichiara, in termini di tasse?
118  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Bitstamp - un paio di quesiti on: April 27, 2013, 02:13:14 PM
Una nota riguardo all'inviare bonifici su bitstamp: ricordatevi che e' come mandare i soldi all'estero, se inviate piu' di diecimila euro annui dovete ricordavi l'anno successivo di riportare nel modello unico quadro RW la transazione.

ok, e se si rimane sotto i 10000 annui PROVENIENTI di bonifici emessi da bitstamp che si fa?
in qualche modo andranno pur dichiarati...
perchè con i bonifici rimangono tracce di tutte le transazioni...
e appunto le multe son salate e non vorrei fare casini  Undecided
119  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: April 26, 2013, 02:42:38 PM
It's getting scaring, it looks like MtGox just lost my funds  Cry

Quote
Hello,

The funds in question have been confirmed as processed on our end on 2013-04-09 and should have already received it. Please contact your bank and check if they have received the transfer.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. If you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact Mt.Gox Support by responding to this email (should the enquiry relate to this ticket).

Thanks,

MtGox.com Team

 Shocked Cry
120  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Bitstamp - un paio di quesiti on: April 26, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
Quali sono le tempistiche di bonifico? Se mando oggi dopo quanto arriva?
Se lo fai prima dell'orario di cut-off della tua banca (genericamente entro la mattinata o il primo pomeriggio), arriva il primo giorno lavorativo successivo, per il vicevera è lo stesso (c'è giusto una coda interna di un paio d'ore in uscita da Bitstamp). Io per esempio ne ho fatto uno il 24 e l'ho ricevuto su BS stamattina.

Bitstamp si poggia su Unicredit Slovenia, per cui credo abbiano un occhio di riguardo per l'Italia (spulciando le direttive SEPA avevo letto un massimo di tre gg).



infatti credo anche io che sia questo il vantaggio di bitstamp oltre alle 3 conferme al posto di 6

converrebbe quindi forse se si intende usare bitstamp con una certa frequenza aprirsi un conto unicredit.

confermo,
ordinato il 24, arrivato oggi
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