I asked you to provide evidence that DAG's do not need to be bootstrapped. If you don't have it, just say so--no need to deflect. I said my usecase for decentralization, not sure why that's unacceptable to you, but it's acceptable to me  It's not decentralized. You're making the assertion that it has to be centralized. That's the antithesis of the entire concept of cryptocurrency. The usecase of the coin, as they say, is for IOT. That idea is idiotic, and everyone knows it. My light bulbs don't need a cryptocurrency. Autonomous cars need to pay for electricity and atm, they don't need that transaction to be decentralized. So we're good on both fronts, thanks for helping me validate my points. I appreciate the effort We have bank transfers and credit cards for that. IOTA provides nothing better than either of those. BTW, there aren't any autonomous cars. |
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I asked you to provide evidence that DAG's do not need to be bootstrapped. If you don't have it, just say so--no need to deflect. I said my usecase for decentralization, not sure why that's unacceptable to you, but it's acceptable to me It's not decentralized. You're making the assertion that it has to be centralized. That's the antithesis of the entire concept of cryptocurrency. The usecase of the coin, as they say, is for IOT. That idea is idiotic, and everyone knows it. My light bulbs don't need a cryptocurrency. |
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IOTA's tech is shit, their crypto is shit, their devs are prima donnas who can't write code, and the entire thing is totally centrally controlled.
Not to mention the fact that their entire market has no blockchain use case whatsoever.
Tell me again why anyone would put any money into this shitshow?
Tangle is shit? How? It scales and is feeless--that's a usecase. I'm not a fan of centralization, but manufactures don't have a problem with it, and if they do relinquish control after the bootstrap period, I have no problem with it--monero is cash, so I don't need iota to be antifragile in the face of regulation. Good luck with your anger mgt, you seem to go emotional ad hominem with your dev analysis. "Tangle" doesn't work, which is why it has to be centralized. The entire concept of crypto currency was to eliminate the central control. But I'm more concerned with the fact the devs wrote their own broken crypto, deployed it, and then when called on it pretended that they did it on purpose to break anything that copied from them. That's in direct violation of the spirit of the open source movement from day 1. Also they had to write a whole new number system because apparently they think binary isn't good enough. That's rock bottom stupid. There's no anger here, merely analysis. AFAIK DAG's work and need to be centralized in the bootstrap period. I've read nothing to disprove that, have you? I'm not going to argue the politics of the decentralized spirit. I have that in my cash in the form of monero. I personally have no use for machine to machine transactions, so don't care if it is centralized in its early phase--my only question is whether it survives the early phase and does the scaffolding come down once it reaches that phase. In the meantime I am watching the manufacturer's response--the ones who have the usecase--and that has been positive. Do they? Can you prove it? If you don't want to argue, and obviously can't argue the points I made, why bother responding? |
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IOTA's tech is shit, their crypto is shit, their devs are prima donnas who can't write code, and the entire thing is totally centrally controlled.
Not to mention the fact that their entire market has no blockchain use case whatsoever.
Tell me again why anyone would put any money into this shitshow?
Tangle is shit? How? It scales and is feeless--that's a usecase. I'm not a fan of centralization, but manufactures don't have a problem with it, and if they do relinquish control after the bootstrap period, I have no problem with it--monero is cash, so I don't need iota to be antifragile in the face of regulation. Good luck with your anger mgt, you seem to go emotional ad hominem with your dev analysis. "Tangle" doesn't work, which is why it has to be centralized. The entire concept of crypto currency was to eliminate the central control. But I'm more concerned with the fact the devs wrote their own broken crypto, deployed it, and then when called on it pretended that they did it on purpose to break anything that copied from them. That's in direct violation of the spirit of the open source movement from day 1. Also they had to write a whole new number system because apparently they think binary isn't good enough. That's rock bottom stupid. There's no anger here, merely analysis. Oh, and "scales and feeless", if it were true, is not a blockchain use case. The concept of putting the IOT on a blockchain is pants on head idiotic. |
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IOTA's tech is shit, their crypto is shit, their devs are prima donnas who can't write code, and the entire thing is totally centrally controlled.
Not to mention the fact that their entire market has no blockchain use case whatsoever.
Tell me again why anyone would put any money into this shitshow?
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As long as we can make money , who cares it is a scam or not.
Well, for anyone with a conscience, it is rather important to remember that a scam means you make money off of some other poor unsuspecting sap. Some can live with that, I guess. On the other hand, I've yet to see anything to really convince me that this is a scam token. Most people posting against it seem to have personal vendettas. I'll continue to support and wear the signature unless I see some actual damning evidence. There is a large grass roots group of support behind this coin that goes far beyond the possibility of 'farmed' accounts. Only time will tell, but I'm still a fan and think it's got a lot of potential. Closed source, windows only wallet, with no features that are not already in every other privacy coin. What makes you think there is any potential whatsoever here? |
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Stop stating that deeponions are scam, THEY ARE NOT People who did not receive any coins or didn't get accepted in airdrops start disliking.You guys did not understand the purplse if deeponions, you should find out more about it and can discover the truth by her.!!
And you know this how? You have no credibility here whatsoever. Go shill somewhere else, or study a bit so you can figure out some things before you make absurd assertions about things you haven't the foggiest understanding about. |
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so how did deepvault get into the latest wallet then if there has been no new commit?  The dev is releasing custom Windows binaries without being transparent about his changes, that's how. Be very, very cautious. I would not be using that Windows binary. you'll have to explain this in more detail. i'm not a coder so i don't understand why this is bad and why it hasn't been done in the github Because the "dev" doesn't want anyone to see how trivial the "deepvault" actually is, given the fact that functionality has been possible since 2009 in bitcoin. That's the non-cynical response. The more cynical response would be that the "dev" is actually now spreading a trojan with a closed source windows only wallet. |
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I just joined the scam!
I've been keeping a half eye on the crypto currencies for years, and didn't really believe in it, and when the BTC rounded 1000$ I sold the little I had, thinking it can't go much higher.
After that, I've been using more and more time reading up, testing mining on gaming rig and pc's, even created a coin just to see if i could (never really released), and joined several airdrops which I found here and other places, googling.
When I saw the DeepOnion airdrop for the first time in august, I felt I missed a big one, and in many ways I did, but I registered here (could and should have done years ago really), to have a chance joining other airdrops.
If nothing else, I joined their forum (deeponion.org/community), and tried to involve myself.
After just a few days, I had a handful onions in my wallet, from giveaways and bounties etc.
You can earn quite a lot if you do some bounties, find bugs, participate in giveaways, and even just being active in general give you a fair share of onions by gaining points for posting and even logging in.
Now, just a few weeks later, I have managed to fill my wallet with more than 100 onions (requirement for airdrop), and can look forward to maybe 100 more this sunday from the activity points.
It haven't cost me a single deposit.
So, I guess I am in on the scam now?
I think most would say it is a well tailored release of a very promising cryptocurrency.
"most" would not say that. You might, out of ignorance or something worse -- but "most" would say it's a scam. |
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I don't know who revived this topic, but this is old.
This was big like a couple of months ago. DeepOnion proved that it's not a scam, and that it was all blown out of proportions.
ONION to the moon!
So what exchanges is it on? you can buy Onions on NovaExchange and Cryptopia exchange. Price is quite very low.... only 60 cents a piece and only max supply of 25m in some years. there's zero volume in the order book last time I checked, you can't even register on nova and haven't been able to for months. |
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Is there another github than https://github.com/deeponion? I was reviewing it before to find out where they forked it from, what changes were made, and the functionality of any new code. I wanted to get back to my review as I got side tracked and noticed it has a couple updates 25 days ago and other than that hasn't been touched for months. I was hoping they had a newer open source version of their code. It is a dash and bitcoin plus clone. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2096277 Thanks for the information. It will be easier to compare changes. But I am also interested in recent development like deepvault which is why I was wondering if they have another github as this one has not been updated in awhile. I like to look at code. I like to look at code also. "Deepvault" is closed source and windows only. I'll let you draw your own conclusions. |
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I don't know who revived this topic, but this is old.
This was big like a couple of months ago. DeepOnion proved that it's not a scam, and that it was all blown out of proportions.
ONION to the moon!
So what exchanges is it on? |
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Now that shitty coin will be removed from Nova, due ti it's closure and that will be the and of tat shitty scam! Dev will never pay for a new exchange and all deeponion slaves and paid shill will be fucked up. Congratulation !
Yep, just saw that. It's dead. |
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I don't get the point of this thread still being open. Hasn't Deep Onion proved they are not a scam by the amount of time they have been around for? I get that some people disliked them at the start for the way they went about things with there acceptance to the airdrop rules. But they were only trying to root out all the scammers etc. I am not in the Deep Onion airdrop but i have had a look at there forum and it looks pretty cool, so good on them i say!
No. The longer the con the more money they can make. |
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I just went on their website and it looks strange too... I had never heard about this project before. The first few pages look legit but when you start looking for their team a weird window pops open and you cannot really find them...
There is no team. That's not really a huge issue in my book. The fact that they're pretending there is... |
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I have a question for those who think that DeepOnion is a scam:
What do you think about the features DeepOnion has? DeepVault for instance?
You realize that "feature" has been in bitcoin for years, right? |
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People hate other people's success. I already cashed out some bounties and 10%. For me it is a good campaign, whatever happens, with the money I made I can pay the rent in a very expensive country like Switzerland. Which means, in other countries you can live with that money for two months... Participants can make some money out of it, so don't say people get scammed. You get something in exchange for some of your time and you can trade it against money at any time. So I really don't see the scam here.
Also there is lots of newbie accounts posting here that it is scam. This is a sign that people want to bring something successfull down, or lower the price to get on board. Everything shows that the project is on a good way. Happy to be part of it.
But you're not a part of it. You're shilling for it, but you don't have the signature, so now you get nothing for your shilling. I've been around crypto since 2012 or so, I'm not a newbie. This is a scam. It will be dead on the day of the 40th "airdrop" when everyone realizes that the "dev" hasn't actually met any of the roadmap and has delivered nothing but a bunch of valueless tokens. It is interesting that all the members who call out it as a scam are non-airdop participants. Does it not look a bit biased? By the way, I am not an airdrop participant. I chose not to participate in the airdrop. There are plenty of others who could but chose not to. |
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XVG is the one. I believe this anon coin will eventually out do the others and is very cheap at the moment.
I like verge, but it has too large a supply and not enough development going on. If they start delivering on their roadmap, maybe. |
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Why fucked? That was a hasty generalization that is purely based on fears that have no basis whatsoever. This can be placed in the category of FUDs. Monero and Dash are still leading in the world of anonymous coins, as well as ZEC. These 3 coins are the top when it comes to hiding your identity. Deeponion is introducing itself to be like them but I have doubts.
Deeponion is a scam. It's just a copy of another tor clone coin. |
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This matter has even not been put to rest despite the argument and counter argument that has been put for and against this project. Anyway the only determining factor about whether this is scam or not will be time that would decide who will win the day. People hate other people's success. I already cashed out some bounties and 10%. For me it is a good campaign, whatever happens, with the money I made I can pay the rent in a very expensive country like Switzerland. Which means, in other countries you can live with that money for two months... Participants can make some money out of it, so don't say people get scammed. You get something in exchange for some of your time and you can trade it against money at any time. So I really don't see the scam here.
Also there is lots of newbie accounts posting here that it is scam. This is a sign that people want to bring something successfull down, or lower the price to get on board. Everything shows that the project is on a good way. Happy to be part of it.
But you're not a part of it. You're shilling for it, but you don't have the signature, so now you get nothing for your shilling. I've been around crypto since 2012 or so, I'm not a newbie. This is a scam. It will be dead on the day of the 40th "airdrop" when everyone realizes that the "dev" hasn't actually met any of the roadmap and has delivered nothing but a bunch of valueless tokens. Argument like this are the one that would even makes it last longer that what you predicted because one thing developers value is their ego even if they are doing the wrong thing. I think the "dev" will have dumped everything he can dump by then, and that will be the end. Maybe he'll try to extend the "airdrop" or something like that, but I don't think it will last much longer than that. |
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