Make sure you don't just take it to any old jeweler. Take it to an official Rolex dealer. The good fakes fool neighborhood jewelers all the time.

They did. Various people from the Bitcoin Foundation warned against investing in Pirate. They were ignored and in some cases abused by Pirate's victims.

I think they did enough.

"It's real if you believe it's real."

Hi,

I totally see where you guys are coming from on this, and ordinarily I'd never participate in such idiocy.

Here's how things went down:

AugustoCroppo posted his thread about me. I saw it, laughed at how ridiculous it was, and assumed that anyone else would do the same. I have no idea why he decided to pick a fight with me, but I believe it is because I humiliatingly defeated him in an unrelated debate in another thread.

A few days passed and Croppo opened up the thread. In the brief period the thread was open, someone posted in it saying "Wow I had no idea CharlieContent condoned scamming" or words to that effect. Now I have no idea how anyone could get that impression from the gibberish that Croppo posted, but it gave me pause for thought and I was concerned that the thread might have some effect on my reputation.

I got in touch with Theymos and he told me that there was nothing he could do, if Croppo wanted to open up a thread with a load of slanderous nonsense then it's completely within the forum rules. He told me that I was free to do the same thing if I so wished, on the proviso that I keep everything within the bounds of the thread.

Very amusingly, I found some stuff in Croppo's post history that suggests anti-semetic beliefs, so I decided to make a thread to bring them to the fore. It was the very same tactics he used against me.

AugustoCroppo was fairly upset and he sent me an angry PM. My intention was not revenge, but to use the thread to leverage AugustoCroppo to delete the thread about me. I would then delete mine. My offer was declined, and that is where we stand.

Believe me I would far rather there was some kind of rule to stop this type of bullshit from occurring, but Theymos advised me there wasn't and that my only recourse was to fight fire with fire.

To be fair to Theymos he did suggest that we should both unlock the threads so we could respond to each other, but I declined as I have better things to do than engage with Croppo.

As you can see Croppo makes a bit of a habit of making threads like this (a strange hobby), but you won't see another one from me.

Cheers,

Charlie

Do you honestly think buying a Rolex watch with Bitcoins from anyone other than someone who has a long history of selling genuine Rolex watches is a good idea?

If so, you are going to end up scammed eventually because of your lackadaisical attitude, especially if you start putting insane amounts of trust into people who exhibit the same detachment with reality as Dank. This is Bitcoin, you can never be too cautious. If you exercise anything other than the maximum amount of caution then you should expect to get scammed at some point.

If the watch is legit, Dank could sell it somewhere else, and then use the cash to buy Bitcoins. He doesn't need someone here to take the risk in order for him to offload the watch.

Strong weed can get pretty psychedelic if you smoke enough of it.

Hahaha. Of course it is.

Dank seems to have proved that he is at least in possession of a genuine Rolex.

However this may not be the watch that you receive.

I could be "selling" my SeaDweller DeepSea, provide photos and even more documentary evidence than Dank can.

And then what comes in the mail?

http://www.yourswatches.com/rolex-swiss-deepsea-srl154.html/

A $600 Swiss replica. Identical in every way to the real thing, and you have all the documentation too. I think most people would release the escrow at that point, and even if they took it to their local jewelers, the top replicas are good enough to fool them too.

Don't trust Dank

Be honest, how much do you smoke? I feel like it must be a POWER of herb.

Dank reminds me of Syd Barrett. Not while he was in the band, but afterwards, when his brain had been scrambled by acid to the point he couldn't be in society anymore.

Of course Syd was highly talented and Dank is wholly talentless so the comparisons begin and end there.

Aren't you the guy with the creepy coffee table?

Agreed. It wouldn't even have to be vintage or rare in any way to command a higher price than this. I've never seen any good condition Air King selling for less than $2k. Perhaps a badly damaged model may go for less, but many models will sell for much more, potentially three times that. The Air King is one of the most affordable Rolex models but it's far from cheap.

142 BTC is suspiciously good value.

Here's what I would have done in your shoes:

Sold the watch to a local jeweler for cash and bought Bitcoins.

If I was completely determined to do the transaction through the forum, I would be like "Hey, I know that it's a sketchy proposition to sell one of the most counterfeited items on the planet with an irreversible, anonymous transaction. Let me go out of my way to prove the watch is real, nominate a trusted escrow for the transaction, and in the process not be a complete dick about it when people are understandably suspicious."

If I was on your shoes, I would understand that the burden of proof weighs heavily on me, and do anything and everything I could to reassure buyers that it was a genuine deal. That would include my attitude towards it.

I thought that was this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93003.0

I really, really hope that no one is stupid enough to buy it from you. Not just because I don't want someone to get scammed, but because I would weep for humanity. Is anyone really stupid enough to buy this watch from Dank? Is the human brain capable of such an error? Please, god, don't let it be the case.

I find it more bizarre than precious, really.

The price he's asking is suspiciously low too.

I hope he doesn't find a sucker here. It's hard to tell though, there are no shortage of suckers on the forum.

Haha imagine being laughed out of this clown college of a forum. Embarrassing stuff!

Just a quick note for anyone thinking of purchasing this watch -

Rolex watches ALWAYS come with a certificate of authenticity, and this certificate is guarded carefully by the owners. Lost certificates can be replaced. If the watch has no certificate then it is fake or stolen.


Bargain hunter eh? I like your style. This is the kind of price where even if it was fake it would be a pretty good deal, assuming it does actually work.

I was going to say that no one should buy it, but I am revising that to say that no one should pay more than $40 for it.

Really cheap macbooks come up on Silk Road reasonably often. Predictably they sell pretty quick too. To be honest I'm surprised it doesn't happen a lot more. I think that it would be more from kids carding shit to abandoned houses rather than break and entering though. Housebreaking is almost always done by drug addicts who need the money immediately, with a small proportion of professional thieves who will obviously have good fencing contacts.

This is one of my favourite ever forum posts. I would fucking love it if the forum was split between people who think Dank's watch is genuine and people who think it's fake.

Reminds me of the (sincere, as far as I know) post in the mining forum where the guy basically says: "Shut up about BFL being a scam, I want to enjoy believing that it isn't for the timebeing."

It's also up there with BurtW's now sadly deleted bet against himself. For those of you who don't know: he lost.