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1001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Appropriate percentage of income for gambling on: August 26, 2023, 03:01:51 PM
I use 5% of my weekly income to gamble and I can not go more than that. Sometimes I can be busy and I can spend less. If a week favours me, I will save my profit and the remaining (5% last week income) for next week gambling. According to what I heard, people spend up to 12% of their weekly income on gamble. I think it is not bad but that gives me the thinking to make a post like this on this forum. What percentage of weekly income do you think is right for gambling?
Every gambler comes from a family so the biggest part of their income must be used for the family. Gamblers usually try to spend a large portion of the money for family and other necessary expenses. But here is another thing we have to consider that this gambling may be different for those who have higher income. But overall I agree with you that if someone spends 5 percent of his income on gambling it will not be a burden for anyone. But in this case, even if it is 7 percent to 10 percent that will be acceptable.
1002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 26, 2023, 02:24:24 PM
I think Pakistan batting first is a good decision. But after batting carefully both openiors are gone Now the Current score of Pakistan is 59 runs in a loss of 2 wickets in 16 Overs. Farkhar Zaman only scored 27 runs in 33 balls and Imam Ul Haq 13 runs in 30 balls. Babar Azam is playing at 16 runs not out in just 27 balls and Muhammad Rizwan is playing at 2 runs. This partnership is very crucial if Babar and Rizwan make a 100 plus partnership then Pakistan to win this match. The next batter Soud Shakeel made his debut today his batting is also very amazing to watch. From Afghanistan 2 wickets pick Gulbadin Naib by giving 10 runs in 4 overs. An amazing display of bowling performance from Afghanistan. If Pakistan makes 250 plus runs it is a good target.

Pakistan at the moment struggling to score runs. Pakistan in 24th over going with scoring rate of 3.30 and that tells how hard it is to score runs. The Colombo surface is not ideal for batting and its already evident from Pakistani batting. The way Babr and Rizwan are batting it looks like Pakistan may only be able to score 200 runs.
One disappointing thing from this series is the involvement of crowd in the stadium. Locals have shown zero interest in this series and stadiums are empty throughout this series.  
After 30th Over Pakistan improved his run rate by scoring 85 runs in 10 overs. Now Pakistan score is 200 in a loss of 6 wickets in 43 Overs. Salman Ali Agha is playing at 9 not out and Muhammad Nawaz is playing at 3. Babar Azam scored 60 runs a good partnership between Babar Azam and Muhammad Rizwan scored 67 runs. Rashid Khan picked Babar Azam wickets. Unfortunately Soud Shakeel is run out in 9 runs 5 balls. Mujeeb Ur Rahman amazing bowling picked 1 wicket by just giving 50 runs in 10 Overs. I think Pakistan will give a 250 plus target for Afghanistan because 7 overs remaining and two Batsmen are playing. And 250 plus is a good total in this pitch Pakistan also have a quality bowling line.
If Pakistan could score 300 runs like last match, they will have chances to win this match too but the Pakistan team will also try their hardest to win this match as there is an opportunity to climb to the top of the ODI rankings which they will not want to miss. On the other hand this match is a big challenge for Afghanistan team. If they whitewash against Pakistan before the Asia Cup then their loss will have a negative impact on the Asia Cup as well. So, this is a very important match for both teams. Pakistan has won the toss and decided to bat, so will Afghanistan be able to chase and win in today's match now this is the great concern of the cricket fans.
1003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 26, 2023, 02:13:42 PM
Gambling addiction usually starts when a gambler gets some winnings. He thought at that time that if he could win by spending more money, he could own a huge amount of money through gambling. Those who develop such urges become addicted gamblers. But there is no chance for a new gambler to get addicted to gambling in the beginning. Generally, people who gamble for a long time become addicted to gambling. A person can become addicted to gambling through repeated wins and losses from gambling. But if a person keeps losing from the beginning of gambling, he will not be addicted to gambling until he wins.
1004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: August 25, 2023, 02:35:20 PM
Human error hahaha, that wrong impression that there's someone who can leak the potential outcome of the game, which they knew that there's nothing or there's no one who can accurately dictate the outcome, they know but still hoping that in the other side of the internet they will manage to join or to pay someone, and like you mentioned, telegram is where those scammers are rounding to meet their subjected prey and let them believe that they can provide the outcome that they are looking for.

But in reality, there's nothing that it will bring them, just a pure money-making scheme that will let scammers to enjoy the money that those believers will pay them.
What if the match was fixed as it had been so many times? There must be someone who will leak the results of their matches to other people so they can win a lot of money. That can happen and can even be obtained from any group. But I don't know about this. But clearly, the telegram will probably be a place full of fraudsters who are ready to get their victims by making very attractive offers.

And people trying to find betting groups should always be careful if they have joined one or several groups. Don't be easily tempted to join any VIP group because it doesn't guarantee they can get an easy win using their signals.
Considering the fixed matches these days, many may wish to join some betting group but in reality there is no proof that the group is authentic. I received an invitation from a group not too long ago through an acquaintance of mine where I was told that fixed match information would be available from this group. I didn't believe it later I saw the result of a scheduled match where their information was wrong. At that moment I was further convinced that it was a scammers group. So bet depending on the betting group, there is a high chance of losing.
1005  Economy / Economics / Re: Any business where today you launch, tomorrow you begin making profit...? on: August 25, 2023, 02:20:59 PM
Business is a reliable means of earning money. But establishing this business is very difficult. In business there is an expectation of profit at the same time the possibility of loss is very high if not managed properly. Moreover, any business needs time to get established. Who think of profiting from the day after starting business must have ulterior motives. Especially those who operate Ponzi scheme businesses will only invest profitably and at some causes they will run away with the money. An entrepreneur has to invest both time and money if he is interested in building a reliable business. Every business is challenging so there is no guarantee of profit.
1006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can money be saved in gambling sites? on: August 25, 2023, 12:02:58 PM

Is good to save money for future use so we can make good use of it when ever we need to, now what if you decide to save money in your betting account will that be possible to?
We can decide not to save money in our fiat bank account or any other micro finance bank account for one reason or the other and save it in a licensed gambling sites can that idea be possible, will the money deposited there not be tempered with from the gambling platform or removed automatically from the account after keeping it for a long period of time?
I know it might be very hard to save money in a gambling site because we  might have the feelings of winning if we try to stake, it can be hard for a gambler to save money in a gambling site but it will be easy for a non gambler, I put in mind that everything start one day so even a non gambler can try at the first, I bring this discussion here so we can discuss about it to keep our selfs busy.
Saving money into a gambling site account is definitely risky. That's why I definitely recommend you to keep money in another personal wallet. Whether it's a licensed casino or not, you are not the owner of the money until you transfer it to a personal wallet. There are some casino platforms that are trustworthy where you keep money for a long time but the thing is why would I worry or risk keeping my money with someone else. Anytime an accident can occur any casino can admit to hacking. Moreover, a gambler may be at a loss to use that money to recover lost money at any time.
1007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 25, 2023, 11:45:25 AM
What A Match !!
Yes of course that was an interesting match.  Afghanistan tried well. But unfortunately they were close to the victory but they failed to chase the target. Afghanistan made 300 runs but the target was 302. And now the Pakistan won the series. There is the last match which will be played tomorrow. And I hope Pakistan will win again.  Smiley
Yesterday match was very competitive. For both Afghanistan and Pakistan, it was a tense affair towards the end of the game. By the observation of the entire match, we can say if Afghanistan could have scored a few more runs they might have won the match. We saw that Pakistan needed 49.5 overs to win with only 1 wicket in hand. I would say that even if Afghanistan lost the match, they deserved to be applauded. I thought that Afghanistan might not be able to put up any resistance against Pakistan ‍any match. But they dispelled those fears in the 2nd match of the series. Hope they will fight hard and try to win in the last match of the series.
1008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 25, 2023, 11:30:34 AM
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In the CPL the match between Guyana Amazon Warriors and St.Kitts & Nevis Patriots game is going on with SKN Patriots winning the toss and decided to bowl.
St Kitts and Nevis Patriots vs Guyana Amazon Warriors, 8th Match, Guyana Amazon Warriors scored 197 runs in the first innings. Guyana Amazon Warriors lost their 7 wickets to a good score and may have scored enough runs for them to win today. Guyana Amazon Warriors may not win today's match because of their amazing bowling performance which made Nevis Patriots lose almost all their wickets. Nevis Patriots lost 9 wickets so it can be said that there is no chance for them to win today's match. There is still a long way to go.
Guyana Amazon Warriors won by 65 runs. After winning the toss SKN Patriots decided to bowl first that is not a good decision. Guyana Amazon Warriors set a big target of 198 runs in loss of 7 wickets in 20 Overs. Shai Hope amazing half century of 54 runs in 32 balls and Saim Ayub 31 runs inning in 17 balls helped Guyana Amazon Warriors to reach 197 runs. While chasing down the target SKN Patriots all out in 132 runs in 16.5 Overs. GAW won this match by 65 runs a huge victory. Gudakesh Motie is the player of the match who picks 4 wickets by just giving 29 runs in 4 Overs very impressive bowling performance.
After winning the toss, they decided to bowl but they could not succeed. They could not stop the opponent Guyana Amazon Warriors in any way. Their bowling failure saw the opposition set a big target of 197 runs. St Kitts and Nevis Patriots played for that target and lost all wickets for just 132 runs. The unlucky St Kitts and Nevis Patriots team had only two batsmen who scored well but rest of them failed. The team could not perform the way it needed to play for a big target.
1009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: August 24, 2023, 12:33:52 PM
I have heard and read about people gambling because they had no source of income,  a job or they wanted to add gambling as part of their streams of income. Whatever your category the bottom line is that we all gamble to make money though some group claim it's mainly for fun. But who would want to be losing money all in the idea of catching fun! ~


People are always willing to pay money for fun and it really doesn't matter at all what activity you enjoy. Someone likes sports, someone likes women, someone likes alcohol, and someone likes entertainment that involves risk - trading on the stock exchange or gambling. All these entertainments bring emotions, for which we have to pay and which make us feel pleasure. In addition, these entertainments can bring negative emotions - in sports you can easily get injured, after a closer contact a woman can turn out to be completely different from who she pretended to be, you can easily get alcohol poisoning or overdose, your assets can sharply devalue or you can simply lose all your money in the casino. I think you know what I mean.
The idea of gambling is primarily for fun and winning or earning should come second, but because people are forever discontented, they tend to engage into huge pool of bets and huge rewards and so gambling now totally become the other way around. Money changes everything.
Just like how sports was really a sport before, but now it's all about money and business. Perfect example is when 2 elite boxers doesn't want to fight each other just because the deal did not meet their monetary demand.

I agree with you, now a days gambling is not considered ‍as fun at this moment. Money get the first priority. Today in all kinds of sports money is considered to be of the essence. Although the issue of money was second thought but nowadays it is given more importance. It is now impossible to organize sports if there is no money. Sports are still at the heart of the business. As this has become a trend in this generation there is no turning back and there is no option but to adapt to the trend.
1010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I will pass KYC later is a bad idea on: August 24, 2023, 12:06:57 PM
A reputable casino will not do that, maybe some are not providing adequate ad required documents needed for the casino tobe satisfied with.
No reputable casino will do it . It is only the bad eggs amongst them that keeps spoiling their name. However I think what the OP is trying to say is that to have a hitch free withdrawal process is for the gambler to do the first things first at the beginning by completing the KYC requirements. No reputable casino will hold back your winning because of KYC. Infact they want returning gamblers so they'll make the KYC process pretty straightforward.
Those who want to establish their casino business must allow their clients to withdraw their money after receiving proper information. But casinos that have different demands i.e. plan to withdraw money by operating their business for a short period of time they try to freeze the money of those clients or not allow them to withdraw their money. A major advantage of gambling at a reputable casino is that a gambler can place his trust. But I also think a gambler should resolve their KYC issues before depositing money in any casino platform.
1011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 24, 2023, 11:31:47 AM
Afghanistan 91/0, 21 overs!

After the embarrassing loss in the first ODI, Afghanistan's batters demonstrated a strong response in the second ODI against Pakistan. The Afghan openers, Zadran and Gurbaz, played a wonderful game today. I truly enjoyed their performance, it was pure class, and they avoided any reckless shots. It's a positive sight to witness their comeback. Also, the pitch seems to be favoring the batters. The match could get even more interesting if the Afghan bowlers manage to turn things in their favor later on.
Yes, Afghanistan is showing very professional game in 2nd ODI against Pakistan. Can't imagine they are batting 24 overs without losing a wicket and the runs aren't too bad. If they can perform like this then I don't know what they will do against Pakistan but they will have a good chance in the Asia Cup. But the main thing is the consistency of their performance. If they maintain this consistency then they will have a very good chance of winning one match in this series and they can have a good position in the Asia Cup as well.
1012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: August 24, 2023, 11:21:25 AM
Losses may be expected in any game, but acting rashly? You've got that, buddy. When "better options" appear, the house is merely playing mental games with you

You say it's "normal" in gambling for the house to always win? You should enter any circumstance, including a casino, with the mindset of winning. Yes, the house offers benefits, but it doesn't imply you should give up your money for free. It makes sense that you're seeing more losses than victories if you're frequently altering your methods

You think the house should always win? I always triumph in my universe. And if I don't, I make sure to pick up new skills, adjust, and win the following game. Stop defending your losses by saying "that's how gambling works." Take charge, stop being a pushover, and maybe things will start to turn around for you


The victory and the loss was common to all the gambler.If you are experienced gambler it doesn't mean,you won't get loss in all your games.Only if you are trader,their is the possibility of all time profit.But gambling based on the luck most of the time.The winning mindset will increase the deposit amount to the new gambling site and increases the number of game after the winning.The addiction also the possibility outcome of the big win.Mostly it's unavoidable one by the most of the gambler,only few expected player will get away from the mindset.The winning money should not predict your next game.
It is good to have confidence in gambling but there should not be overconfident. It has been found that gamblers who are more confident of winning are more likely to lose. They naturally look at big betting odds and lose huge money any time they make a small mistake. So a gambler must gamble within control. Otherwise he may lose all his wealth. We know that there are wins and losses in gambling but due to some common mistakes we are forced to accept big losses instead of big wins.
1013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 23, 2023, 12:48:59 PM
Afghanistan bowlers have done quite a good job but there batsmen failed to perform there duty. This is first time Pakistan have won so easily against Afghanistan. Still Pakistan need to be careful in next two matches as Afghanistan is an unpredictable team and they have the tendency to fight back in upcoming matches. Pakistani batting lineup also need to play with caution, if they continue to give such performance in next matches then result might not be in there favour.

Afghan batting has been in very poor shape for quite some time. Their bowlers are very popular across the various franchise T20 leagues. But for some unknown reason, they don't even have a single quality batsman. Hashmatullah Shahidi and Rahmanullah Gurbaz have featured in a few franchise leagues, but these players are inconsistent. Ideally, given that Afghanistan is being gifted with such talented bowlers (Rashid, Noor, Mujib.etc), they should be able to perform well in ODI cricket. But everytime, their poor batting is costing them matches.
A really embarrassing loss in the first ODI. After that defeat, they're putting in a lot of effort to recover. Afghan batters are really committed to improve their batting skills, while their bowling and fielding look quite promising. Fans are optimistic about that their team's performance in the upcoming second and third ODI matches against Pakistan. And success comes from hard work.
Pakistan's score was relatively low but they won by a wide margin when they bowled out their opponents Afghanistan for just 59 runs. As such I would say Pakistan is in their track. On the other hand, Afghanistan's position is not good. In the first game, apart from Afghanistan's opening batsman Rahmanullah Gurbaz, three of the five batsmen scored zero and two scored single-digit runs. The chances of Afghanistan losing in the remaining two matches of this series are very high. But neither India nor Pakistan are getting anyone in the group stage so Afghanistan can do better.
1014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: August 23, 2023, 12:36:30 PM
Ireland vs India
Today is the 3rd match of Ireland vs India series.  India won the first 2 matches. 1st match was not played fully due to rain DLS Method India won by 2 runs, India won the 2nd match by 33 runs. India's bowling and batting line is better than Ireland's. Ireland, a small team, will not easily win against a strong team like India. Today I think India will win, Ireland will be whitewashed today.
I was sure about that the India will win the last match too and they done according to my surity. And the thing is that both teams don't have the same levels we counter the India team in the top teams and Ireland team is not in these teams so there is no comparison between these two teams. Everyone knows that the India will win the matches easily. And they done accordingly.
We occasionally see some matches where the stronger team lose a match relatively against the weaker teams. It can be seen that if there are 3 matches in a series, the smaller team suddenly wins one match. In any game lose or win very common picture and the result of the game can change at any time. But one thing we know that is if there is a big difference between two teams then it is not possible for the weaker team to beat the stronger. There are diffusion differences between Ireland and India. Naturally, India will win every match in this series.
1015  Economy / Economics / Re: How to avoid over expenses and have discipline on: August 21, 2023, 04:26:20 PM
When people's incomes are stable and expenses are rising, budgeting is more or less thought about by most people. This budgeting trend is especially common among low-income people. Budgeting is undoubtedly a good way to cut costs. It is a very useful strategy for everyone from low income, middle income or those who belong to the rich class of society. Since inflation is almost everywhere these days, low-income people can manage their lives very well if they abandon certain habits to manage their lives. One should take a break from buying all kinds of things except for those essential in emergency situations. Refrain from buying luxury goods and cut back on some extra expenses like buying afternoon tea or coffee or hanging out with friends. If these issues are properly focused then budget control is possible.
1016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: August 21, 2023, 04:01:58 PM
As for me it would be nice to make a pause in the game and spend some time for analyze - how much time you spend for gambling per week/month, how much money you lose, how many time you spend with your friends and family, etc.
After it the gambler can understand if the gambling a problem for him or not.

Don't you know that some compulsive gamblers lose some sense of reasoning and cannot even think the way you have described? All their concerns are just how to gamble, have fun, and earn money from it. My friend's girlfriend was telling me stuff about her dad some days ago; she said her dad is a Gambling addict and that she sent some money to him for him to buy her a plot of land, and the man assured her that he had already bought the plot of land. While he was lying, instead he used the money to gamble, and he lost the money. That was really a huge amount of money, but this man gambled it off. I was just surprised at how some dads have even lost their dignity and self-respect for their daughter to just waste some money that is not even their own.
I don`t see the problem if the gambler get profit from the gambling. Of course it depends on lots of moment like how much money he get, how much time he spend, etc. And in your example i think that this woman knows about her father`s problem but send him money anyway. It is only her mistake. And her father has more money for gambling and can continue waiting big win. He must lose the opportunity for gambling, only after it he can think about his deeds.
I think the lady believed her father. Maybe the lady never imagined that her father would become so addicted to gambling. I will never say gambling is bad but I will not support using other people's money or any necessary money to gamble. If the woman knew her father was an addicted gambler, she would never give him the money. When a gambler loses more money in gambling he tries to recover that money whether he is addicted or not. If luck favor then many can recover the money but most of the time it is difficult to recover the loss at that moment.
1017  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much ,as you think ,is 1 bitcoin in 2025? on: August 21, 2023, 03:34:30 PM
How much ,as you think  ,is  1 bitcoin in 2025?
We are anticipating a potential Halving in 2024 and 2025 so there is no possibility for the Bitcoin price to down drastically rather it will bullish. Although I can't say when and what happens in the market. But based on the analysis of past few years and current period, the possibility of Bitcoin bull market is very high. If for some reason the market goes down, the price pool you have arranged is unrealistic. I think Bitcoin will not drop below $25000 at this time but has more tendency to go higher.
1018  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can everyone in the world have bitcoin. on: August 21, 2023, 03:03:45 PM
My question is that is it possible for everyone to have bitcoin with the number of limited supply of bitcoin ?
There is no reason for anyone to have difficulty in understanding this matter because since Bitcoins are limited, not everyone will be able to own Bitcoins. According to the coinmarketcap Circulating supply is 19,463,862 BTC. Among these BTC, the majority of bitcoins are held by whole investors and institutional investors. When the demand of Bitcoin increases, it will become more difficult for ordinary people to collect Bitcoins. Only institutional investors will have Bitcoin under their control. Considering this fact, it is easy to assume that in the future, ordinary people will have to raise money for Satoshi, not a Bitcoin.
1019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling by financial dependents. on: August 20, 2023, 12:21:03 PM
It's absolutely unwise for a financial dependent to gamble and should be condemned by anyoone who's around such person. Over the years, I've seen very young people who are still surviving with the financial assistance of their parents or guardians use money that was meant for something very serious like school fees, money meant hospital bills and sometimes money that was given to them to go and buy food items using such money to gamble.
They end up losing the financial trust of their parents and guardians because of their very silly decisions to gamble with those money.
Honestly, I am very concerned about incidents like this but there is not much we can do to stop them and only self-awareness can stop or control these gambling activities.
Maybe if there is socialization and also educational services for youth it can put more pressure on the increasing number of gamblers classified as teenagers or students who are currently mushrooming in every country.
At this age a gambler cannot be identified unless he reveals the matter himself because a gambler is getting all kinds of benefits from sitting at home. If a gambler realizes on his own that he may be addicted or has pushed himself into a hostile environment from which he needs a way out, he will find a way to control himself there if he can explain addiction well to those gamblers. We should remember that no gambler can be forced to turn away. If they are adults then definitely they can come back by realizing these things.
1020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: August 20, 2023, 12:06:47 PM
Ramiz Raja is the one who talked about national dignity but Najam Sethi talked about money. The new government of Pakistan didn't even bothered to resist rather agreed on everything proposed by BCCI. Now India will not come to Pakistan for Asia Cup but Pakistan will go to India for World Cup. Next is icc championship trophy and same episode will be repeated by India.
Previous PCB Chairman Raja is taken strict action and stood on Asia Cup if India come to Pakistan. Pakistan Will go to India for the world cup but now current PCB chairman Najim is not taken a stand on the Asia Cup. I think The main reason is Asia Cup is not an ICC event. ICC champion trophy 2025 will be held in Pakistan. And every team come to Pakistan if any team doesn't come BCCI and another team. ICC will take action against him if which team doesn't come to Pakistan for the champion Trophy.
I am not going to lie here but a fair amount of people in India were counting on such tactics but it was bad luck (For Indians) that PCB caved.

BCCI or overall India in general wants Rambo (Immi) kind of people in charge of PCB (Pakistan). I won't dwell much on it but imagine what would happen if Pakistan actually boycott the World Cup.

If you can grab the gist of it then i won't mind a productive discussion.
If Pakistan boycott the World Cup some of the media will get in to make decisions on the venues or they'll try to make compromise talks. Rather than anyone it is the media that is making huge money out of the India vs Pakistan match. Surely one of the interesting part of World Cup could be left behind without Pakistan.
Almost everyone will say the same thing that if Pakistan and India are not present in the World Cup then the World Cup will not get its full essence. The media will definitely look these two teams differently. They also now understand the value of India vs Pakistan matches. In the last T20 World Cup not only the media but also the organizers got a good idea about this issue. These two teams will face each other in the upcoming Asia Cup where this match will be one of the best matches for the entire tournament.
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