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1001  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Ca chute severe !!! on: May 13, 2018, 08:54:18 PM
Jusqu'a présent,Tether a plus été un moyen pour pump bitcoin que pour pump les shitcoins.
Tout est relatif quand tu parles de vrais ronds.
Define vrai ronds please?

Il n'y a pas de vrais ronds ni de faux ronds.

Mon rond WSPU2 est un vrai rond.
Il n'est pas plus rond ni moins rond qu'un autre rond.

C'est vrai,très vrai,c'est certainement un shitrond...mais on peut le négocier comme le commun des ronds.

Un rond c'est ce que vous en faites.Si vous n'en faites rien...alors c'est forcément rien.
Un rond qui ne vaut rien n'est pas forcément un faux rond.
Et ce que beaucoup appellent de faux ronds vaut parfois des euros et ces faux ronds se négocient exactement comme les vrais.
1002  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ERC20 Exchange (DEX) on: May 13, 2018, 02:24:56 PM
I have made 2 orders:
I sell 10000 WSPU2 with price: 1 WSPU2 = 0.00000151 ETH
I buy 10000 WSPU2 with price: 1 WSPU2 = 0.00000150 ETH

So you can test this exchanger.

5 hours ago a trade has beed done.
it works perfectly.

But be aware that the WSPU2 is only worth $0.001 or so and if you trade only 100 you will pay more gas than the trade is worth and so you will never make profit.
1003  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Ca chute severe !!! on: May 13, 2018, 10:08:21 AM
En attendant le halving de juin 2020 qui ne sera dans les têtes qu'en 2019 Wink

Exactement ! C'est ma ligne de mire et je pense que nous arriverons à la mass adoption à ce moment la.
Le halving va propulser Bitcoin comme en 2017 mais bien au dela à mon avis.

L'effet halving est diminué après chaque halving.
La différence de production par rapport aux BTC en circulation deviendra négligeable et n'aura plus aucun effet sur le  cours.
1004  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: More and more airdrop is a lie, on: May 13, 2018, 09:55:21 AM
I do think either, you spend too much money on things that do not guarantee or do not provide the return you could get from bounty for example.

Explain how one can spend to much money if airdrops are free "things"
1005  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: CPU Mining (mine XMR for dollars and WSPU2)(the best and paying) on: May 13, 2018, 07:43:27 AM
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Total hashes mined: 146962432
Total new accounts to check: 0
Total miner shares in System: 1266(*)
Miner share pot: $2.3000000000
Total earned with contest: $2.18
Total WSPU2pts earned: 339.58104914
WSPU2pts price: $0.00116
Total earned with miner bonus: $0.60
Total earned for testing: $0.72
Total earned with xtracash: $1.85
Total earned with poolcash: $0.42
Total on hold for mining: $1.28
Total pending payout: $2.47288
Total paid out: $3.28

Have fun...
1006  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE FAUCETS BULLSHIT OR NO???? on: May 13, 2018, 07:34:27 AM
They are a waste of time now.

OK...It's a waste of time...
If I waste my time on faucets and if i waste my time on this forum ...I prefer waste time and earn few satoshis...
1007  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Ca chute severe !!! on: May 13, 2018, 07:30:38 AM

J'en ai deja parlé ici mais je rappelle qu'en analyse technique (qui vient quand même bien completer les analyse de fondamentale des projets), il manque une derniere vague de baisse avant une eventuelle reprise "saine" vers le haut !!
Cette vague pourrait (car cela reste une eventualité) nous ramener vers les 5800$ dans un premier temps
Alors loin de moi l'idée de prédire la suite du cours, mais se baser sur les Eliott waves pour prédire un cours c'est pas très optimal...


Au moins on connait les raisons de la chute , personne ne peut parler de manipulation ou autre niaiserie.
Est-ce que si la Corée du Sud (ou n'importe quel autre pays d'ailleurs) fait ça sciemment pour déstabiliser le marché des cryptos, on ne pourrait pas parler de manipulation ? Je connais pas bien les détails de cette affaire-ci et si c'est justifié ou non mais on a vu déjà vu des trucs du genre il y a quelques mois (Ministre de la justice : "On va interdire les cryptos !" ; Ministre des finances "Non en fait l'autre ministre a dit n'imp hein, c'est pas prévu d'interdire".....)


Entierement d'accord pour dire qu'on ne peut pas se fier qu'a ces vagues pour prevoir le cours du BTC.

A la base, je ne suis d'ailleurs pas tres fan des ananlyses techniques qui ne prennent pas en compte le fond d'un projet.

Par contre, et depuis l'ATH des 20 000$, force est de constaté que certain traders spécialiste en AT, ont vraiment bien anticipé les differentes phases de baisse.



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A la base, je ne suis d'ailleurs pas tres fan des ananlyses techniques qui ne prennent pas en compte le fond d'un projet.
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L'analyse technique prend en compte le comportement des traders.
Si les traders prennent en compte le fond d'un projet,alors le fond du projet est pris en compte par l'analyse technique.

Si les traders font n'importe quoi alors l'analyse technique sera du n'importe quoi.
1008  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 46% of last year's ICOs have failed already on: May 11, 2018, 07:50:45 PM
I believe 46% is too low.
1009  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: Le bitcoin devrait remonter on: May 11, 2018, 07:44:26 PM
Faire de prédiction c'est perdre ton argent. Beaucoup de mec vont dire qu'il faut prévoir, mais je ne suis pas de cet avis.
Moi j'essaye d'avoir une stratégie gagnant sur le long terme.
En trading tu gagnes un coup, tu peux un autre, ... C'est sur le long terme que tu sais si tu es un trader gagnant ou perdant.


Je confirme ! Les rares fois où j'ai essayé de prévoir, la plupart du temps j'ai perdu ou je n'ai rien gagné. En revanche sur le long terme, si on choisit bien ses projets, c'est un peu plus simple.

Faut pas regretter.Me suis bien planté avec le graph des tulipes...même s'il nous pend encore au nez...un tout petit peut déformé.
1010  Local / Français / Re: File des nouveaux venus français on: May 11, 2018, 07:40:37 PM
Salut à tous,

Bruno - 36 ans, je viens de l'univers informatique, web, référencement et programmation. Je vis dans le sud de la france

J'ai découvert les cryptos par hazard, et j'ai commencer par le minage, et maintenant je regarde du coté des airdrops.

Voila pour la petite présentation

Bienvenue à toi.
Je ne savais pas qu'il y avait aussi des cryptos dans le sud de la France.Vous avez donc tout là en bas:le soleil...la mer...et les cryptos...(lol)
1011  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Ca chute severe !!! on: May 11, 2018, 07:33:38 PM
Je vois pas ce que les 8000 btc font au cours ?
Il s'en échange pas le de 1 millons par jour. C'est comme essayer de vidé la mer à la grosse cuillère.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/



C'est tout à fait vrai et ça n'a absolument aucune influence.
Mais il y a souvent le "snow ball effect" (c'est la première fois que j'arrive à placer ça)(lol)
C'est comme pour les actions:
Tel ou tel financier dit qu'il vend:ça n'a aucune influence direct,mais si d'autres le suivent la boule de neige peut déclencher une avalanche.

Bref les 8000 btc ne sont qu'un simple déclencheur.Et souvent c'est pas le "fait" mais l'annonce du "fait"
1012  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Most alts are worth Zero on: May 11, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
I think your right. The most altcoins have absolutly no value. Theres no need for them. The only thing you can do with them is trading on exchange. Just a small amount of altcoins can be used to pay for stuff. So there are just pure speculation coins. ALso with the tokens on the ethereum blockchain. They are created without any projects behind. And the tokens who have a project behind, are not developed yet and will take a long time untill they will be and used in real case.

Most of people believe that a token takes value just in a finger snap.

Look my WSPU2 token.

It is priced $0.001 and this is the ICO price.

Is it to much or is it too less or is it the right price?

If we would know in advance it would be too easy.

Firstable for the start and ICO time a bonus will be paid monthly.So the first buyers will get more bonus.
This will decrease the ICO price for the first buyers.

After the ICO dividends will be paid.This be the main factor to fix the price.
The higher the dividends the higher the WSPU2 price.
But not only.The interest for the token will as well be important.
If you can sell even under the "logic" price,it is already important.

One things is sure:
The token WSPU2 will never be worth zero so long the sites winspiral.com and winspiral.net will make a profit.
1013  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE FAUCETS BULLSHIT OR NO???? on: May 11, 2018, 10:55:00 AM
i am a beginner, of course...and i started with faucet, and i earn nothing...maybe i did it wrong, i don't know...
Now, i want to try to join bounties, my friend earns so much from that...so i have to try

Trying goes over studying...
1014  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE FAUCETS BULLSHIT OR NO???? on: May 11, 2018, 08:21:56 AM
Then my airdrop faucet is made for you.

Airdrops for ICOs are bullshit...more often than not. The reason is because ICOs that have a great business plan and sound utility for the market don't need to give away their tokens for free. Any ICO that's giving away its tokens for free is an ICO that's not worth buying for the ICO, therefore it is destined to fail.

It does not depend on what you say or on what I say.

Of course it depends on what I say or what you say...that's literally how conversations, discussions work. That's why we're all here.

My airdrop faucet is market regulated and we can not say in advance what the market will say.

Regulated? Really? What regulatory agency has offered an opinion or vouched for your cryptocurrency? There is no regulatory agency overseeing the cryptocurrency market, that's one of the beauties of cryptocurrency. But don't lie and pretend that your crypto has been verified or supported by some independent agency.

You can say bullshit or even BULLSHIT the faucet users trade the WSPU2pts like they feel it.
Talking about will not change the price.The price is changed by the faucet users.

Yes, of course. The market will do what they will...whether I claim that most ICOs are bullshit or whether you fill threads on forums with updates on your price.

Why are you giving your crypto away for free? Things that are given away for free often have little value. You're defying the basic laws of the market.

Good luck to you and your project.

The difference is that you talk in general and i talk about a specific faucet.

Yes it is market regulated and no need a regulatory agency.
The "market" is the "claimers" and the "claimers" set the price of the WSPU2pts.

Just now:

Quote
Total WSPU2pts earned: 1206.29358271
Total pending dollars earned: 0.48567685
Total claims: 823
WSPU2pts price in dollar: 0.00329


Please do not say it is bullshit if a claim is worth $0.00329
It is not me who imagines the price,it is the market.
You talk about generalities and I talk about specificities...
Talking about generalities does not help because you have everything and its contrary.

My airdrop faucet allows people to get free WSPU2pts and $cents without spending money from their poket.
They can trade and get more $cents or more WSPU2pts

Why are you so negative about such system where every one can manage how he believes it is the best way?
And if one is not interested...one does not claim.

You can not say my members waste time for bullshit.This is unrespectuous for them.
I do not use sign campaign...I will never say people spent time for bullshit.
Long time ago over 20 years,I wrote for the website "ciao" and I earned fex cents for each writing.
Some said it is bullshit...it was funny to earn few cents and it was a pleasure to write them.

Do you believe that all my faucet users claim and trade for the cash?
No,they claim and trade for the fun to earn few cents and the fun to trade better then the other traders.




1015  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE FAUCETS BULLSHIT OR NO???? on: May 10, 2018, 02:42:04 PM
Most people will disagree with me but I believe that faucets are good, its a good way to get introduced to bitcoin. When I was younger and just got into bitcoin, I had no source of income so I focused on making money from faucets, I gathered enough money to invest into some more lucrative passive forms of earning bitcoin. Faucets are a good place to start if you have alot  of free time. They're particularly rewarding when you use some type of rotator to claim from multiple faucets in a short amount of time.
Faucets were good (in the past) when Bitcoin was an unknown technology and you could get 50 BTC to play around. But now? Freebitcoin is giving 21 satoshis per roll (1/hr) - which is ~$0,002 (most faucets will get the same amount of even lower). Maybe you think this is a fairly good amount because they are giving it for free, but yesterday I did a transaction of 1 sat/byte coming from a Segwit address and paid 0.00000272BTC in fees (10 times what a faucet gives per claim).

You could go ask for a few changes at your local park and get $5 much faster than someone who spends the day doing faucets, increasing the light bill and having to pay for your internet.

This is your opinion...but since I am "arround" faucets,i see that faucets have users...and the more faucets are denied,the more faucets have success.
Like I said above,you can not go against the market and if you give something for free you will find claimers...
So is life...
1016  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE FAUCETS BULLSHIT OR NO???? on: May 10, 2018, 02:25:18 PM
Hello, guys! I'm rookie in here and have maybe rhetorical question: should I trust faucets and start one because of several reasons:
1. I want to know the mechanism of trading
2. I want to know it without investing for now

Faucet are not bullshit, they're just a very slow way to acquire bitcoin. You could buy bitcoin with loose change in a drawer faster than you can acquire the same amount of bitcoin with a faucet. Faucets don't offer trading and you don't need to "invest" to get started.

There is one faucet that pays interest on your balance - which is very appropriate given the risk that we all accept when working with a bitcoin exchange - PM me if you want a link!

Then my airdrop faucet is made for you.

Airdrops for ICOs are bullshit...more often than not. The reason is because ICOs that have a great business plan and sound utility for the market don't need to give away their tokens for free. Any ICO that's giving away its tokens for free is an ICO that's not worth buying for the ICO, therefore it is destined to fail.

It does not depend on what you say or on what I say.
My airdrop faucet is market regulated and we can not say in advance what the market will say.
You can say bullshit or even BULLSHIT the faucet users trade the WSPU2pts like they feel it.
Talking about will not change the price.The price is changed by the faucet users.

You can do nothing against the market...if a claim is worth $0.003 it is impossible not to find claimers.
When you offer something for a claim...you will without doubt find claimers even if 100000000000000000 people say it is bullshit.
It is impossible to go against the market.


1017  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to trade right and right? on: May 10, 2018, 01:51:06 PM
Train for free on my airdrop faucet
If you are not able to be among the best traders,I advise you stay away from trade place where you deposit real cash.
1018  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE FAUCETS BULLSHIT OR NO???? on: May 10, 2018, 01:46:47 PM
Hello, guys! I'm rookie in here and have maybe rhetorical question: should I trust faucets and start one because of several reasons:
1. I want to know the mechanism of trading
2. I want to know it without investing for now

Thank u in advance!

Then my airdrop faucet is made for you.
You have not to invest
You have just to claim
You have just to trade
You have just to withdraw or to request your WSPU2pts for real WSPU2 on ETH wallet.
1019  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: An airdrop faucet free Token WSPU2 [claim = $0.00323] on: May 10, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
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Members to confirm: 0
Total WSPU2pts earned: 1184.19674347
Total pending dollars earned: 0.47395106
Total claims: 812
WSPU2pts price in dollar: 0.00323

yes the WSPU2pts is worth $0.00323

Why WSPU2pts and not WSPU2?
Because you get free WSPU2pts on the faucet...
Be cause you can sell and buy WSPU2pts on the faucet...
Only once the WSPU2pts are transformed and sent on your ETH wallet they can be called WSPU2.




1020  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Le Bitcoin restera-t-il la principale cryptomonnaie ? on: May 10, 2018, 10:45:57 AM
Vivement que le BTC conquièrent le monde entier, que l'on puisse le dépenser par tout.
Car là on en a et on peu pas faire grand chose avec et c'est vraiment dommage.

C'est encore plus dommage pour ceux qui les ont dépensés ou qui n'en ont pas.
Tu peux les dépenser chez moi...tu en auras alors moins et cela sera alors moins dommage (lol)

J'ai des dollars,je peux pas les dépenser partout...
J'ai des euros,je peux pas les dépenser partout...
J'ai des francs suisses,je peux pas les dépenser partout...

Mais comme les BTC...du dust de BTC...je sais les dépenser.
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