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1001  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Casino Crypto gambling on: December 07, 2023, 01:34:39 PM
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Agree with you that we cannot have a goal in winning at gambling, getting win is desire that is appropriate to have but in gambling we cannot get it.
Every goal of winning is always shrouded in darkness or the risk of defeat that no one can avoid, even losing in an effort to win at gambling can be much worse and truly unimaginable.
Someone will spend whatever money they have to win and they don't care about losing because the dopamine that exists is only about winning and winning.

By just having fun and being able to manage our time, we will never experience bad things that are too disappointing or devastating.
When we can manage our time and gamble with full awareness, we can avoid bad behavior in gambling and it is even impossible for us to do things that are too far beyond our limits.
Therefore, a person must really have good self-control in order to avoid losing a lot, especially if he is already able to win. They don't need to chase more wins because that could make them lose their money or even all their money because of their greed. We don't need to take too big a risk at the risk of losing all the money and if it is a big win, it is better for us to immediately stop gambling to save the winning money and so that we can enjoy the winning money.

Gambling is only for fun and limits our gambling activities because we gamble only in our free time and have no desire to chase wins that are not easy to get. We must know that in gambling, there will definitely be losses and these losses will occur more often than we imagine, so we must be able to stop gambling before the losses become bigger. If they can't stop in time, they will only experience loss, and in the meantime, we must pay attention to our own situation and not let ourselves suffer a big loss.
1002  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: December 07, 2023, 01:15:31 PM
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Difficult if you are not dealing on it the right way, I mean if your emotions dominates a lot the chance of losing everything is not by far, always remember that each time you deposit your money the chance of losing everything is always behind, without proper control and without proper preparation and limitation, there's a big chance that you'll going to keep playing with more money to lose.

It's your anticipation and set limitation that will lead you to a much safer gambling. Without it you are always prone to lose more.
If they cannot control their emotions, they will clearly be affected by whatever happens to them, and they will also lose their responsibility in gambling. Those who lose self-control and cannot be responsible with their money will only experience more and more losses, starting from small losses, which will lead to changing the amount of their bets to bigger bets, and ultimately, they will lose all their money. Without self-control and boundaries, someone will only get into big problems, which will get bigger if they are eager to win.

And they also won't be able to take responsibility for themselves, and over time, they will become addicted to gambling. So self-control is important so that we can avoid problems arising from gambling and will not experience gambling addiction.
1003  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: December 06, 2023, 11:02:33 PM
I have seen it only in the movies and even in that the end result wasn't good.
Nobody in their right mind will ever finance a gambler because it doesn't make any sense. Instead of financing a gambler he can gamble himself.
Let's consider someone says his luck is good but even in that case why would the gambler not use his own money.
Yes, it's true. It is better if he gambles with his money rather than lending his money to other people who will later also use it for gambling. It does not make sense to finance a gambler because, after all, the results of gambling may not be good, and they will find it difficult to win. And if they don't win, they will only lose their money and won't be able to return the money. People who want to borrow money to gamble can borrow from banks or other places, so they can't get the money if they don't provide collateral.
1004  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: December 06, 2023, 10:49:25 PM
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It makes sense that professional gamblers do not really like to share their methods with others, as those are methods that have taken them a significant amount of time to develop, so sharing that information for free does not really sit well for them, so newbie gamblers that want to become pros need to find their own way and almost reinvent the wheel, and even if after a long time they became professional gamblers I am sure many of them will also refuse to share their findings due to all the hard work that it took them to get where they are.
It is right that professional gamblers only share enough information and will tell novice gamblers to find what they need and look for what can help them become professional gamblers. The methods used by each professional gambler will definitely be different because what they learn is also different, so what they find is also different. This requires experience and building on what they discover so they can find a method that works for them. This method will also be useful for them to be able to control themselves when gambling, which will also help them to stop gambling easily and not experience any problems.

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But I would like to note that all players understand this responsibility differently.  For one player, responsibility begins when, for example, his little child asks “Dad! Play with me, don’t play on the computer!”  And such a person turns off the computer and goes to play with the baby.  But for the other player, responsibility does not arise even when his wife takes away all the money from him, which he will lose anyway, and he goes to a friend and borr ows money.  In our understanding, this is, of course, a completely irresponsible player.  But he himself doesn’t think so.  It is in the understanding of this difference by different people that there is a difference in approaches to understanding responsibility in gambling.  Here, in general, it is quite difficult to determine this very line of responsibility or irresponsibility of this particular player whom we are evaluating.
Yes, there are indeed differences in understanding by each person because they also take different approaches to gambling, so this will also determine whether they can become a responsible gambler or whether they will only end up being an irresponsible gambler. A person's responsibility in gambling will be seen from how he can use gambling, where if he is a responsible gambler, he can stop gambling if he has had enough of gambling. But those who cannot be responsible will continue to gamble even if they have been gambling for too long.
1005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Include Or Always Include Gambling In Your New Year's Resolution on: December 06, 2023, 10:23:05 PM
Yes, gambling is always included in my New Year resolution. I perceive gambling as an investment hence I always hope for my investment to yield good returns. I have never gambled for the fun of it as most writers have opined because I don't see anything fun in losing money. Each year I set up a target on what level of winning I desire and so far this year I am yet to clock the target but interestingly as at last year, I surpassed my target.
I hope you already learned what will be the possibilities if you didn't follow those tips that you've read here in forum. Well, we have our own perspective when it comes to this kind of matter and I find your statement interesting because many people here are includes leaving gambling as their new year's resolution and here you are, setting up a target winning every year. Wishing you luck on your next years target goal.
He needs to re-examine whether including gambling in his New Year's resolution is right or whether it is a mistake because gambling is not an investment. But gambling is entertainment where we don't need to expect to win every time we gamble because it is definitely difficult. He should read more about gambling, where if someone gambles more often, he has the potential to lose more, and of course, it will cost him a lot of money. But it's okay if he still wants to include gambling in his New Year's resolutions because each person has targets or plans that he wants to achieve in the next year. Well, let's hope he doesn't lose too much next year.
1006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: December 06, 2023, 09:39:06 PM
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Because he was easily tempted by the gambling he saw there, when he won he should have gone home and stopped instead he placed another bet. It is difficult to control oneself when people are addicted to gambling, it is difficult to advise and they do not use common sense to make wise decisions. It's true, what gamblers have to do when they win or lose two or three times is to stop first to calm their minds to get better, and when they recover, return to the casino in a good state of mind.
That's what often happens to gamblers, not just him because by winning, he doesn't choose to stop gambling but instead continues gambling. And when he lost, he considered it normal and continued playing. After playing for some time, he experienced total loss, where all his money was used up for gambling because he wanted to chase a bigger win. But that won't always happen for those who still want a big win because it will depend on the luck they have. That is what we must avoid if we have won, and we should immediately cash out the winnings and leave the casino so that we are not interested in trying other gambling games.
1007  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: December 06, 2023, 09:17:53 PM
Those nice animations make slots fun to play and those big win or scatter keep you hooked on the game for long time and lose gradually,
it's so easy to lose on slots because time to time the player gets big wins because of this the player doesn't even realize easily that the funds are down by
There is no doubt that good animation and interesting background sounds can give gamblers the psychology to return to playing slots even though they have often lost playing slots. Those who return to the slot game want to see how their luck is today so that they may have prepared a larger allocation of funds than before. However, if they can think clearly, they should not deposit larger funds but continue to use the same deposit as before. It will protect them from losing a lot, and when their money is almost gone or even gone, they will not try to deposit any more funds. But it will be different for people who are already addicted to slot games. They will deposit even larger funds and repeat the slot game. They think they can win the slot game, but unfortunately, they won't always be able to.
1008  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning big amount after watching streamer on: December 06, 2023, 02:17:38 PM
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I kind of disagree with that, we don't need lots of money to be able to win. We can spend few money and still win, what we're talking about is just winning and it doesn't matter whether it's big or small amount. Well, that's just a tiny detail that I have to disagree but that's true that we can't guarantee to win even with huge money.
Indeed, you are right, but what happens a lot is that gamblers spend a lot of money, often large amounts, before they can win. And their win will not be too big compared to the loss they suffered previously. They can win with a little money, but it depends on their luck, and if they are not lucky, they obviously cannot win, and they have to try gambling again to be able to win. But that also doesn't guarantee they can win.

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That's right, the amount that we will be able to lose is going to depend on how much we've got. So, if we're going to spend little then the risk is also little so as the opposite and with how much it is if it grows.
It is better to take a small risk of loss than let it turn into a bigger risk. But we still often allow the risk of losing money to become greater by not stopping the gambling game because we are tempted to chase more wins or recover losses. So that makes the risk even greater.

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There's no doubt that the house always wins and they're banker in this industry. If it were not for them, there wouldn't be casinos exist anymore because it's a profitable business for them. And that's why we see streamers left and right, promoting casinos that they are affiliated with to get more attention to their new possible customers.
And that's why casinos can grow big. They have made huge profits from losing gamblers, so they can allocate some of their money to make even more attractive promotions. They also know that hiring a streamer who has a large following can increase the casino's chances of getting new members to register at the casino.
1009  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever been a gambling addict? on: December 06, 2023, 02:02:41 PM
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Right! people first play or deposit very small amount when they are just starting to gamble thinking that I am not going to lose it all, they think like they already know what gambling is and they are going to lose everything deposited, but our mind just think that in a that way that I will control myself when losing, but in last when we lose consecutively our mind goes blank and we didn't even know consciously that we are betting higher then we can afford to lose in one bet. after losing it all they deposit 2x of the initial amount lost this cycle repeats and the losing amount become so huge. and people become gambling addict because of this.
If they could control their minds to keep betting small amounts and also deposit very small amounts, maybe they could still enjoy their gambling games well and would not lose control of themselves in gambling. They will also not experience a change in their mindset when playing gambling and will always stay within their limits so as not to experience more losses. They will also always limit the deposit amount to the same amount every time they deposit money. They just don't want to lose when gambling because that means they will lose their money while they will also lose control of themselves. They will try their best to keep themselves under control so they don't experience problems losing money in gambling.
1010  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos after the shutdowns of mixers on: December 06, 2023, 01:33:20 PM
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Don't think of it too much.

As long as they're paying their taxes, they're registered, they are licensed. There's nothing gonna happen to them just because some mixing company have been taken down.

I know that the worry is there because money laundering is no question in these casinos. But there should be a news already before if they're also on the hot seat of the regulators.
Yes, we should not think too much about it because well-known casinos will always try to comply with the regulations issued by the government. They won't try to break the rules even once because that could get the casino in trouble, and they might end up paying a fine for breaking the rules.

Money laundering cases will definitely continue, but people who launder money may also have found other ways or places to continue laundering money. We must stay at the casino that we have used to gamble, and that casino must be trusted and popular.
1011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: December 06, 2023, 01:14:05 PM
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Self-control stems from being disciplined. If you have a good upbringing, it will be much easier for you to limit yourself to the things that you need to do, want to do, and shouldn't do. Boundaries makes a whole lot of difference when you are gambling. This is why if you don't possess good character and discipline, you must think twice before entering the gambling industry because it isn't for the weak. If you will be easily swayed by enticing promotions, campaigns, and winning prizes, the chances of you losing is hogh because you might do things that are beyond your capability. So as much as possible, practice good gambling habits and do not play in an aggressive manner.
But we still have to practice discipline because without practicing it, we will not be able to have good discipline, and that can make us tempted to continue gambling. That is why we must be able to treat gambling carefully because there are many temptations that we will encounter when we gamble. You may have also experienced it, so you already have previous experience, which can prevent you from being tempted. But those who are new to gambling can easily get tempted and finally try to get it. With good self-control, we will not be easily tempted, and we can even act naturally when we see attractive promotions given by casinos.

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There are some people who become addicted of gambling because of a single win because they make a wrong concept because of this win that they will always earn a big reward like this. There are a greater chance of losing money than that of earning so don't forget that you can win due to your good luck but opposite situations can also occurs.
According to my experience people are often losing money but they cannot win large sum of money easily and regularly so if loss is higher then why people are often engaged in gambling? People are wishing to see another such big win but in such tries he become a permanent part of this unpleasant betting and loss all what he has in his pocket or bank.
That's where the temptation of gambling can make people return to gambling and spend more money so they can win even more. It is true that people often lose a lot of money, but they cannot win large amounts of money, so they keep losing. They should be able to realize this and try to change their mindset so that they don't try to chase their wins. They should also start reducing their gambling activities to prevent experiencing a lot of losses. Those who return to gambling still want to win, so they still try to gamble again even though they already know that they will lose more often.

1012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You At Any Point In Time Blame Who Taught Or Led You To Gambling? on: December 06, 2023, 12:40:20 PM
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The majority of people now use Android cellphones where gambling advertisements appear when we are opening YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter where gambling advertisements always appear and make us interested in doing it ourselves, even without friends we can find out for ourselves. Even though friends tell us sometimes we already know about it in advance so we don't need to blame other people for the gambling that is introduced unless your friend forces you to do it that's different you can blame your friend for forcing you to do it by force there are also those who keep trying to make the same bet it's bigger that we have to avoid friends like this because they will become devils who will always tempt you to gamble and again it's up to us to react to it. If you don't want to gamble, it's best to avoid friends like this.
That's why people are increasingly seeing gambling advertisements that always appear on their phones. I remember when I opened my friend's Instagram, I saw a gambling advertisement that appeared out of nowhere, and I asked my friend if he had gambled. But he said he doesn't gamble, and the adverts often pop up on his phones. Maybe social media providers need to filter gambling or other advertisements so they don't appear too often on users' phones. And that is what causes them to become curious about gambling, and eventually, many start gambling until they become addicted. This is very unfortunate because they should be able to use their phones properly, but instead, they are trapped by advertisements like that. They must be aware of this so that they learn self-control so as not to be tempted by any advertisements.
1013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: December 06, 2023, 12:29:09 PM
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Some gamblers believe that when you give up or cashout and go then you have given up your chances of winning more,this is usually the views of those that are addicts. So the idea for them is to continue playing and trying more luck . But for a random gambler or the newbie, a one time big winning is enough for them to run away feeling better despite how much that they have lost through the time before the winning. The losses are what an an addict consider more to keep going and not running away.
It is better for us to stop gambling and cash in the winnings rather than risk losing, which might be bigger than we imagined because often, we will end up losing money after continuing to gamble. We have to remember that in gambling, we won't win easily, and many gamblers, including us, have proved that, so instead of losing, it's better if we just take the winnings and cash them out. For people who rarely gamble, getting a big win is more than enough because they don't have a goal to win the gambling game, and maybe they just gamble for fun. And once they get it, they'll leave. We must be able to try what the gambler did to avoid the losses we will experience if we continue gambling.

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Yes it is natural and with that I think it is not strange if they especially beginners in the beginning of their approach most of them will definitely apply such actions, because victory is a situation that they always want and wait for in their gambling involvement. Self-control is good and always the most important thing to apply but on the other hand do you know if a new beginner who just came is still very aggressive in his thinking? I mean usually they still fully believe that it is a place to make money because of misunderstanding from the beginning of the involvement, meaning that makes it quite difficult for them to apply self-control like my experience that I have told you about and maybe they will be able to apply all of that when they have experienced a lot of disappointment like I experienced that it turned out that with greed the final result was even more disappointing.

I don't think that everyone involved in gambling always brings a mindset with the aim of seeking pleasure only because in general gambling is famous for the winning opportunities that are always boasted by people who are lucky enough so that many people get involved with the aim of getting the same fate, but that's not entirely because there are also those who come with common sense and correct understanding. Bad experiences will usually change but it depends on the person too.
You are right in saying that a beginner who comes to gambling is still aggressive in his thinking because maybe they will think that winning gambling games is not difficult. But when they try to gamble again another day, they will find that everything is different from what they experienced when they started gambling. But if they knew what had happened to many gamblers who tried to take gambling too seriously, they would see that many of them had lost a lot. They must immediately realize that their mindset is wrong in believing that gambling is the fastest way to make money because, in gambling, there will definitely be losses, while wins will not appear too often. By changing their mindset to gambling as just a place to get entertainment and have fun, they will not focus too much on making money but just spend their time gambling for fun.

I think there are definitely people involved in gambling who only think about having fun and don't think about winning. And if they have lost in a row, they will not force themselves to recover from their losses. Those who win will also try to cash out the winnings without any desire to continue gambling to get more wins.
1014  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: December 06, 2023, 12:15:26 PM
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At least if they want to gamble they should be able to set a budget limit for gambling, because if there is no budget limit set, it is likely that they will not stop until they run out of all their money. It is good that they can control themselves so that unwanted things do not happen such as losing a lot of money just because of gambling.
For those who are stubborn, it may be difficult to accept input and advice, but the possibility of advice and input from their own parents can make them realize and can make them stop for a moment from gambling that harms them. Also don't let them take the wrong actions such as borrowing money just to gamble, later they will be in trouble because of debt which I can clearly make sure they will not be in debt for only a small amount.
That means they should try to learn to set a budget limit for gambling because it is in their best interest so that they don't use up all their money. If they can control themselves in gambling, they will not experience as many losses as many other gamblers have experienced. This is important always to practice because we don't know when our self-control will be well maintained and when our self-control will start to fade. And if our self-control starts to fade, maybe we can stop gambling for a while while we recover and regulate our self-control. That's where we try to gamble responsibly and will only use a little money to gamble. However, there are still many gamblers who end up losing self-control because they are still tempted by the many things in the casino, so they deposit more money to be able to make money. They must be aware that it will definitely be difficult to obtain it.
1015  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are You Keeping Numbers Or You Allow The Machine To Pick Your Numbers To Bet on: December 06, 2023, 11:51:44 AM
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You have the same decision or choice as me in that you will always be confident and rely on your own abilities, even though lottery is not bet that I really like, but occasionally I still want to try it just to test my luck.
Moreover, in the country I live in, it is the same as what you experienced, where there is no machine feature for selecting numbers for purchasing lottery tickets and everything still runs manually where gamblers bring their own numbers.
We should choose the numbers ourselves rather than relying on lottery machines. Even though we know it will depend on our luck, at least it is the preferred number that we choose based on our wishes. So whatever happens, we can accept it. We can occasionally hand over the number selection to the lottery machine, but for the most part, we choose it ourselves.
I also don't buy lottery numbers very often, so I buy them for fun. I also don't really hope to win because I think it will be very difficult. Many people also want to win the lottery, but only lucky people can win.
1016  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning big amount after watching streamer on: December 05, 2023, 10:39:14 PM
I wish gambling were that easy, everybody would be a millionaire.
That's true, if it's easy to win and the same goes for everybody then all of us will become rich easy. But remember that there's still balance in everything and this is gambling which the house always win. We see people winning and being lucky for this day but we don't know how long their luck will last.
Nothing is easy in gambling because often, we have to use a lot of money first to be able to win, but that doesn't guarantee we can actually win. In fact, we will only experience more losses if we use a lot of money because we will not be able to control ourselves when using money to gamble. The house is the party that will always win and get the biggest profit, so we should always try to limit the amount of money we use for gambling. Limiting the amount of money means we are also trying to reduce the number of losses because we can prevent gambling for too long and only based on the money we have prepared for gambling. We might be lucky one day, so let's just enjoy the gambling game.
1017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 05, 2023, 10:11:17 PM
However, I really understand what you guys are saying, but like we always know, there are some opportunities that do come ones in a blue moon, but I still have to believe that as long as gamble is involved, there will still be a day when I will win bigger amount.
But for my friend, I am no longer a great because he's my friend and we have known each other for years and we grow up together, so he is not to be blamed at all.
@DaNNy001, you are apparently correct, I know that every thing happens for a reason, that's why I have to let go, because the more I think about how much I would have won then the more I get exhausted, so there is nothing to think about anymore.
You're right @OP, to just let it go instead of thinking about it all the time. That will make you tired, and you won't be able to think clearly about what bet you can place next. You can definitely still win other bets, and yesterday's win is not the end of your bet. You can still bet and forget about your friends. You can still enjoy your winnings and prepare other money to place bets. Don't think too much about it because it's pointless. You should rest first before starting to choose other matches. You can win big on the next bet @ OP.
1018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The worst slot provider ever? on: December 05, 2023, 09:42:15 PM
Actually, for me, Hacksaw isn't that bad, but Wazdan, which I've never won, means I rarely play it. But from the list of choices written by @ OP, I still play slots from the Pragmatic provider, but @ OP can add Play'N Go because this slot provider can sometimes be annoying, especially if I often lose hahaha.

But we have to remember that if we often lose when playing slots, it is because we don't have the luck that can help us win. So it's normal if we often complain that if we play slots from certain providers, we still experience losses more often than we win.
1019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos after the shutdowns of mixers on: December 05, 2023, 09:13:41 PM
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Of course, a casino will only be close or "something will happen to them" if they'll violate the law. Others that are in compliance with the law, they can continue to operate.
Yes, trusted casinos will follow the regulations because they definitely still want to continue their business and make a profit. They will be even more aggressive in promoting because there is a government that will protect them if there is a problem. After all, they have followed government regulations.

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That doesn't make sense, if they will investigate and find some activites that are against the TOS, KYC would not save an account from being freeze or confiscated as casinos won't tolerate cheating, a way to protect their asset to run profitably.
At least the casino can safeguard its business from activities that violate its TOS. Casinos can also investigate the accounts of gamblers who are considered or suspected of violating their rules. Moreover, there is supervision from the government. Casinos will not dare just let it go.

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Thave have already tighten their supervision, this is to prevent money laundering, and if a casino does not comply on the regulation, simple, they'll close shop and will face lawsuit.
Yes, that is true, and it will make the casino always try to comply with the regulations that the government applies to its casinos. And the casino will also seek to tighten its oversight of all its members. So let's see what will happen after the mixer case.
1020  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: December 05, 2023, 05:30:14 PM
Loneliness doesn't make anyone to gamble or gamble more,
he gamble because he is free if we have many friends and a lot of work, or when we are too busy and in a state that the time is very important then the person will forget about gambling,
if a person is free and have account on a gambling platform with some money in it, his mind will distract and try to go to the account and play with it. and if we keep our account blank and cut every way to go and gamble then it is easy to not gamble if you don't want, but it's hard to control when we have balance in account.
If he could restrain himself by not having the desire to gamble, he would definitely not gamble and choose to do other things. But when he really doesn't have anything else to do in his free time, and he already has gambling experience in the past, there is a possibility that he will remember what he did when he was lonely. And that can trigger him to look at the account and find out whether he still has a balance in that account or not. Usually, a gambler still has a small remaining balance in his account, which he can use to gamble whenever he wants. And that will be the reason or trigger for him to gamble again and could even make him addicted to gambling. But if he tries not to remember what he did when he was lonely in the past and chooses to do other things, he won't be triggered to gamble. He would prefer to avoid gambling rather than later getting into trouble from gambling.
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