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621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: January 06, 2024, 04:29:29 PM
So I think the gambling person's own decision is not the right reason to blame someone for the losses. No one can do anything unless I am involved in gambling myself a person needs to change his mentality even if he loses by gambling on chatter it will be entirely his own fault. Casinos do not force anyone gamblers become greedy and join them it is better to change yourself than to blame someone
Indeed, we cannot blame other people for our mistakes and should know that. But because blaming other people is the easiest, we still blame other people, especially when we lose when gambling. Once again, it is true that casinos never force people to gamble and become greedy, but it is because of the desire of people who want to continue gambling because they want to win more so they become greedy. Once again, this resulted from their mistakes and not because of invitations from other people, let alone the casino. Casinos only provide a place to gamble for people, and casinos always warn people to always be responsible when gambling so that if people lose when gambling, it is because they cannot be responsible with themselves and their money.
622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Alter Ego In Gambling on: January 06, 2024, 03:40:49 PM
It seems like I don't have those characteristics. In real life, I am still the same as I do in gambling games by always limiting myself by not buying things I don't need. I only buy things that I think will help me in carrying out my daily activities, and the same goes for when I gamble, where I still try to limit the use of money and time for gambling. Even though I realize that I still often waste my money and time, so far, I am still fine with managing my emotions and all things related to gambling. I also don't have any serious problems related to gambling and can still control myself well during and after I finish gambling.

But this is a normal thing experienced by a gambler, where when he gambles, everything will change from being able to save money and save his money well to being more wasteful in using his money to gamble. Perhaps your friend needs to learn self-control to control himself like he does in real life.
623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: January 06, 2024, 03:14:45 PM
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That's right! As one wise man once said, smart people learn from their mistakes, but really smart ones learn from the mistakes of others. Can we learn from the mistakes of others all the time? No, it's impossible. We are not superhuman beings, we are just humans. And mostly we learn from our own mistakes, but in some cases, and gambling addiction is one of them, we simply can't afford the hard way of learning.
Yes, that won't be possible if we always learn from other people's experiences and mistakes. But we will find mistakes other people make intentionally or unintentionally, and that's where we learn from them. By learning from their experiences and the mistakes they make, we can develop our abilities and also try to find solutions if we experience the incident so that we can use the solutions to improve the situation. We can only continue to try to learn to be better, and in this forum, we can also learn from everything shared by members in this forum.
624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: January 06, 2024, 02:40:58 PM
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Playing with a smartphone at work will end in something bad for the employee. As you said, the boss may notice this, which will most likely lead to dismissal. It is better not to do such things and play calmly at home. Although only those who live alone can play peacefully, the rest live with family and children. If a wife sees her husband playing, she will be unhappy with this, which can also lead to divorce. Such players are forced to play at work.

I will also add that when playing at work, the player does not perform his duties efficiently, which will ultimately lead to complaints from other employees or clients. I also wouldn’t want to be served by a taxi driver who drives the car with one hand and bets on a football match with the other or thinks about how to play in a poker tournament.
If someone gets fired just because they gamble on their smartphone, it's not worth doing because it's the same as asking for trouble at work. They already know the rules in their workplace but still use their smartphones to gamble, which means they have underestimated their workplace and their superiors and co-workers. This is clearly intolerable because his workplace already provides him with income, but he is busy using his smartphone and only stops when there is a check from his boss. I have often seen this happen in some government and private offices, and most of them need to work more seriously.

If there are complaints from other employees or customers who complain, it means that the workplace is experiencing poor performance. The mental health of the employees must be immediately improved. I have experienced something similar to you, but the taxi driver didn't place a bet with one hand. Throughout the journey, he was busy calling his friend and telling many stories. We, as passengers, felt uncomfortable, and finally, after arriving at our destination, we did not give a tip to the driver.
625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Focus on how much you may lose and not only the potential win. on: January 06, 2024, 02:24:45 PM
First of all you need to understand that gambling is not a sure way to earn money and you cannot win from here for sure. A man gambles with his own money so you have no power to stop him even if you want to. Learn to control yourself before gambling because if you lose 10 times and win 1 time, you may lose more money when you bet again to cover your losses. You should take some time off after winning and try from next day. Again when you win 2-3 times in a row stop your greedy attitude and don't bet again at that moment. Gambling is your cold minded tricks and there is no technology used here so you have to believe in your own consciousness.
What you say is true because gambling is not a place to make money, and many people already know that. But unfortunately, they still use gambling to make money, so they will continue to try hard to make money. They may not seem to care about the losses that come to them because they are closed off by the desire to win from gambling. Perhaps that's why they only focus on recovering from their increasing losses, so they are still gambling. Even if they can win, the number of wins will be smaller than the number of losses. So it's better if we don't think about the amount we lose so that we won't be triggered to gamble longer to recover from our losses.
626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 06, 2024, 02:09:49 PM
Whatever we do and whatever these people do, it can never change how gambling works. I don't think gambling experts really exist, it is just self-proclaimed. Let us assume if that person knows the exact result, I don't think he would tell anybody but rather make his bets and win big. But it never happens because he knows that he doesn't have assurance and he knows that he has more chances of losing his bet.

Those who believe them are greedy and lazy gamblers, they'll think it was an easy game but in the end, they realize that they have fallen into a scam.
It is very easy to proclaim himself to be a gambling expert because he just has to say it on his social media and provide evidence on his social media as well. That evidence can be taken from the internet freely. He can also provide the predictions that he made to the public and say these are the results of the analysis he did. He can also tell his friends that he is now a gambling expert and try to convince his friends of that.

Those who believe will follow him and see his ability in predicting one or several matches at once. If he really is a gambling expert, he will be able to provide predictions that are close or even accurate so that many people can win bets. But if not, people won't want to believe it, and nowadays, people are more interested in people who can provide them with proof.
627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here who retired with Gambling winnings ? on: January 06, 2024, 01:46:10 PM
Perhaps there is, but they won't tell many people. To achieve retirement with gambling winnings is very difficult because we have the opportunity to experience more and more losses. Additionally, how much winnings do we need so we can retire from gambling? It will vary because someone's standard of living will be different from other people in other countries.

Perhaps many people will say that we need as much winning money as possible to retire as gambling winners, and that is a normal thing because every gambler dreams of getting big wins. The problem is that only a few people have the opportunity to win the big win.
628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: January 06, 2024, 01:18:27 PM
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It happened in our country in Bangladesh the illiterate people of slum they are not properly aware with gambling they don't know management they just play and earn. That is risky for that reason they lost huge more then they earn. That's the reason they suffer in their family. Gambling madness goes extreme become when they are in loss they are fully crazy to recover it and that type of madness are fully seen in the slum areas of our country.
Yes, it is riskier to do because they do not understand how and what gambling is. As long as they can still make money, they will continue to gamble, and even if they lose, they will still return to gambling. That is what happens to most people when they place their hopes on gambling and make it a source of income that is unreliable. They eventually become addicted to gambling and destroy their household because they have sold many of the things in their house just to have money to use for gambling. This is a wrong mindset, and there should be action from the local government to educate the community so that they can be aware, especially if they have seen many cases occurring around them.
629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the tension make you take risk that are sometimes worth it? on: January 06, 2024, 12:55:55 PM
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I would say it is best if you gamble with a clear mind as you know when to stop.
Because if you are sad or depressed, for sure, there will be unnecessary consequences as you will be slave of your emotions.
Do remember, even if you are in calm position, when you place bet, your heart is already beating fast when the game is almost over.
How much more if you are in bad state and couldn't think clear? So you will put yourself in a terrible position where you may regret later on.
Yes, we are advised to gamble when we are really relaxed and can think clearly so that momentary emotions do not provoke us because we have experienced defeat or won. We also won't try to gamble any longer if we don't see a chance of winning. Playing gambling in a calm moment can provide pleasure and can stop us from gambling if we feel we have had enough gambling. We also will not chase victory after winning or recover defeat after losing. And when we can't think clearly, we will only lose our minds, which means we can experience even more losses.
630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you see a gambling review website that has its own gambling website? on: January 06, 2024, 12:21:10 PM
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It cant be fair if he would really be giving that more positive rating than into those old and known sites into this forum on which on the time that he would really be doing such thing or stuff then it is really that showing
that he's really not that fair or transparent the way they do review on which means that they arent that credible when it comes to review. This is why it would really be that better that you should
really be always sticking on what are the facts, new platforms and sites arent really that bad to launch but it would be better that you should really be that sticking into those sites which are legit
and which are facts. Dont make yourself that easily believe when it comes new things, im not saying that its not legit or trustable but better you should really be vigilant.

If they would really be having that kind of behavior then would be always best that you should be that sticking into those old ones but if you do decide on testing new ones
then always just make use of test amounts that you could really be able to deposit.
Yes, that is unfair because he has given a bad assessment of his competitor, which is not true. His site will not be a recommendation for other gamblers, and they will likely avoid him if they know he is being unfair to his competitors. We're always better off looking for other review sites and comparing the results to see how true they are. And if there is more information we can get, we will know more to determine which casino site we will choose for gambling. We also shouldn't immediately trust review sites like that, so we must immediately find more information.

We should postpone depositing at the casino before we find out other information so that we won't be fooled by the reviews he gives. We must be careful when looking for information in the form of reviews of a casino so that we avoid fraud, which often occurs.
631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: January 06, 2024, 12:01:04 PM
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One thing I like about online gambling is that it can practically be done from anywhere. In the office setting, one who already planned to gamble can excuse him/herself from the work space to maybe the convenience and gamble in the few minutes that may be spared.
It's a serious offence to be caught gambling while one is supposed to be clearly working and paying attention to work details.
That's the convenience you get from online gambling, so you can gamble wherever you want. But you should not abuse the convenience of gambling by gambling in the office when you are at the office or working. It will only make you lose control of yourself after you finish gambling because the results you get from gambling can make you feel frustrated if you lose or want to express your winnings excessively, which will disturb your other colleagues. But if you gamble after you finish work or are at home, you will be more relaxed when gambling and can enjoy gambling. If you lose, you can immediately rest and sleep so your emotions will not increase drastically. Indeed, if you are gambling and are caught by your colleagues or even your boss, that is a violation of your office regulations.
632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The is always on gambling, never the individual. on: January 06, 2024, 11:31:33 AM
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Blaming the toaster for burned toast is easy but ineffective. I understand the rush. Gambling is like hot cuisine. A little adds flavor, but too much causes discomfort.

Like driving, you cant control traffic but can control your actions. Gambling requires knowing when to stop. Those losses? Feedback, not bad luck. "Hey, maybe rethink your strategy, or maybe its time for a break." Instead of blaming the game, reflection is needed.

I say gamble with your head, not over it. Set limitations, follow them, and remember its fun, not a full-time work. When it stops being fun, step back. It takes smarts, not luck. And learning from mistakes? Thats life advancement.
You have expressed it very correctly, and that is exactly what happened. Adding just a little money can cause our losses to get bigger, especially if we add a large amount of money. That will increase the number of losses even greater.

But if you can control the gambling games you play and also know how much money you have to use, you won't experience too many losses. You can still enjoy gambling as entertainment because that is the purpose of gambling, so you don't gamble excessively. You will also know when to stop gambling after a while.

If you feel that you have been gambling too much, you should immediately take a break and taking leave for a few days or weeks is very feasible. That is what wise gamblers do who do not force themselves when gambling.
633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble on Bitcoin ETF approval results? on: January 06, 2024, 11:02:39 AM
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I think that the fun starts when we don't know about the clarity of it and there's equal opportunity for every bettor who would like to bet on this event. Whether it's going to be approved or not, as long as you are happy with the results and most especially if you've won the bet then that's for sure the win that you're waiting for. So, it's all fair for everyone who's going to bet on the outcome of the decision as per SEC.
Yes, it is like that, but we have seen what has happened so far, where the SEC continues to delay it, so many of us are pessimistic that this month, the SEC will immediately approve it. And if this is the month we've been waiting for when the SEC finally approves the ETF, it could boost bitcoin to even higher prices. Indeed, when we place a bet and wait for the result, whether it is approved or still pending, and we can be the winner, it will give us joy because we managed to become the winner. Yes, you can try to bet on this event, and who knows, you could be the winner.
634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves? on: January 06, 2024, 10:27:29 AM
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Some games can be more fun and exciting than others. But I think it important to remember that losing money can feel the same no matter what game you are playing.
Some gamblers try to get back the money they lost but this can lose more money. It is important for people to know that gambling always has a chance of losing money no matter what game they play or why they play it.
Gambling can be fun but it is important to be careful and nevet lose too much money which may effect on you personal life or on you mental health.
That's true because whatever gambling game we play, if we lose, it will feel the same. Our money will be lost at the gambling table, and we will not be able to easily get our money back even if we gamble longer and use more money. We must know that the chance of losing money will become greater if we do not immediately stop gambling. Many people have experienced losing money from various types of gambling games, so we must try to prevent that from happening to us. If we lose too much money, we can only regret it because recovering from the loss will not be easy, and there is a possibility that we will lose even more money.

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Losing money is never funny, depending on what we spent the money on, and how important it'll be to the growth of the person economically. That's the main reason people are told to learn money management through gambling. Because we all have lots of games to participate in gambling. Hence the way we think shouldn't be considered similar, as the motive ain't the same. But, a gambler who possess some money management skill, he'd be able to utilize it while gambling, and on the real life business. Not everybody will ever get the fun via gambling. Some gamblers who understands the purpose of gambling. Don't need to rush to stake games in gambling. Monitoring every move we make in gambling, helps us to learn, while others are bothered about their lost money. The authority has been handed to the player, to decide how he wants to gamble. And nobody should complain about, how he's feeling, when the game get void. Happy or sad.
Losing money will make us feel sad and regretful, especially if we use a lot of money to gamble and lose all the money. But the feeling of sadness is only temporary because another day, we will definitely return to gambling and maybe spend even more money. Indeed, it would be a lie if we regretted it even though we have said that gambling is entertainment. Perhaps we should learn to reduce the amount of money and start treating gambling as entertainment so that if we lose, it is an amount of money that we can afford. We also shouldn't complain if we have experienced loss, especially if it is a lot of losses, because we already know that it is a risk in gambling, so we must be able to accept whatever the result is.
635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you win? on: January 06, 2024, 10:07:00 AM
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You should set limits when gambling, so be really. Strict with yourself in this game of chancedon't see it as a place to make money like me.

Yes, thank you very much. Actually, gambling is a game that everyone thinks will make money quickly and easily. I myself am no exception. Because I wanted more income, I made a big bet. I was caught up in a gambling spiral, even though I had set a goal from the beginning. I know the percentage of people who are successful in gambling is very small, perhaps because they are lucky. I'll leave a little in my account to play for fun and get another job. Because I know if I lose a large amount of money in gambling, I will probably be very sad and affect everyone around me.
I have set my limits in gambling, and until now, I am still fine and have not experienced any problems. But I admit that I am still learning and never exceed that limit because it is not easy.

It is normal if we think that gambling is a place to make money, so we are triggered to continue gambling so we can win and earn money. But we must realise that we can't always make money because we will definitely lose after playing gambling for a while. And if we can't control ourselves well, we will only experience bigger losses, causing us to lose money. Many people have been trapped into gambling, not just you, so you don't need to be sad. We can only try to fix what has happened, and it is only a matter of time before you become a responsible gambler.
636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: January 06, 2024, 09:31:51 AM
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Thinking about not gambling when you don't have enough money is indeed mindset that might make someone stop temporarily and reduce the intensity of their gambling, but for some people with certain conditions this will be difficult to do.
Just look, there are various cases where someone is willing to borrow lot of money to be able to gamble, there are some people who commit crimes to get money and gamble, is this easy?
Of course, you won't be able to easily do whatever is in the mindset of gambler when they really like gambling and there will always be something else that deviates from their thinking.
And the mindset of not gambling when they don't have enough money also has negative side, namely when they gamble they will be much more careless, especially when they have a lot of money because they think that they still have enough money and this will also bring problems in the future.
Restrictions and management in gambling must be really good and not just limited to just thinking about expectations but must also be able to implement them as whole to be able to find the point of success in wise and responsible attitude.
This is not easy, but we can all do it if we want to start and have serious intentions.
If someone doesn't have the money to gamble, they should avoid gambling until they can have money again. That's what a gambler who doesn't have money should do, but the opposite happens because many people even borrow money from other people just because they want to gamble and feel that this is their lucky day. But they didn't find that this was their lucky day because they only experienced another loss and made them have to return the money they borrowed. It is the wrong mindset of a gambler to act like that because it will only plunge him deeper into gambling, and he will continue to do it periodically if he does not have money. And if one day they have a lot of money, they will not be able to manage it well because there is a possibility that they will use all the money for gambling without any limits. If that happens, they will not be able to be responsible gamblers and will only go back to gambling if they don't have money because they will think that by gambling, they can make money.
637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you gamble on Bitcoin ETF approval results? on: January 05, 2024, 10:32:35 PM
I'm not interested in betting on a Bitcoin ETF because we've already seen several delays and there's no clarity on when the SEC will approve or reject it. But looking at the development of bitcoin to date and in the future, the SEC should approve it, but I don't know because this still concerns the interests of many parties who still want to reject bitcoin. But if you want to have fun placing bets, you can join in with other gamblers because $1.5 million in bets is a lot of money. They can still be patient with the announcement later, so perhaps this will be even more interesting, whatever the outcome. The important thing is to prepare sufficient funds if you are interested in placing a bet.
638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the tension make you take risk that are sometimes worth it? on: January 05, 2024, 10:12:00 PM
There are times before that I would gamble when I am stress or feeling down.
And on those times before I would win and it would either brighten up my day or just feel like a normal thing happened to me.
But if you gamble when you are stressed or feeling sad, you can get deeper into gambling. Even if you lose, you can become more emotional and will not be able to control your emotions due to the loss, so you can be triggered to gamble longer than usual. Just a suggestion, if you are stressed or feeling sad, you should not approach gambling because your emotions will increase because you are losing. But if you can get rid of that stress and sadness by gambling, well, that's up to you, but there is a risk behind it all, and you have to be prepared for the risk and accept it.
639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The shorter the time you spend the better on: January 05, 2024, 09:51:31 PM
Although your suggestion is Wright, but sometimes our emotions plays a big role in our lives. If you can't control your emotion you can't control your time. Because when ever your emotion I'd working time has nothing to do. Although the time and emotion works together but I think it's your emotion that control the time because there will be a point in time when you loss more often and you choose to continue until you win without considering the time countdown and it will definitely affect you.
But putting a timer might help us than not putting at all. This is because when we see the timer, we can pause for a while and think if we are committed on changing our selves for the better. If yes, then we will decide to stop no matter how hard it is or even if the urge is still there. If time is not important, there won't also be clocks around that will be invented.
Don't you think that putting such timer might make you to over leverage because you want to beat the time? With such timer, you will increase the factors of consideration in your decision making and the more the factors, the poorer the outcome will be. To me I don't see the method of adding timer ideal because it will only agitate the gambler and not add anything positive.

Before getting started with gambling, it is best to make plans on everything that might possibly happen in the gambling process. Some good gamblers go as far as determining the risk and profit target before they start. I think this will be a better guide than the timer.
Perhaps for us, setting a timer is useful to prevent him from gambling excessively and remind him to stop gambling immediately. We can reduce or limit the time we spend gambling in many ways, and he has used those methods. And maybe it is not suitable for us, especially if we have found another method that is also suitable for us, so we say that the method he uses is not suitable.

And that is a normal thing because in limiting the time we play gambling, we must have ways that can immediately stop gambling and be able to leave the casino on time. And you are right that we have to make a plan before we start gambling to anticipate if everything doesn't go as we imagined. The important thing is that we continue to try to prevent excessive use of time and money to reduce the number of losses we will receive so that we can still enjoy gambling even in a short time.
640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: January 05, 2024, 09:25:01 PM
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All things can be learned as long as we are willing to learn and take lessons, take something positive and make the negative as simple as that but in fact it is not easy to do and sometimes I am still one of them, meaning that I have not been able to fully apply firmness to the gambling activities that I do. It is true that appreciating our efforts in gambling by cashing out the winnings when we are in good luck is more advisable, at least you have to occasionally enjoy the winnings you get even if for example you come just for entertainment. On the other hand, in my opinion, do not put any expectations when we are gambling because it will only make us disappointed at the end if we lose, and it is better to focus on fun and also self-control during your session regardless of the results.

I think that awareness is more  important to maintain, because with that I think they will not take actions out of control and also will not put any expectations on the final result. Of course, watching impressions from stremers for example, it will make us subconsciously motivated and like forgetting that gambling is about losing and winning, they will assume as if the victory is a sure thing because of seeing the good luck that the stremers managed to achieve, simply put if you don't want to lose money or can't accept the risk then obviously it's better not to gamble, that's the best.
We can gain wisdom if we are willing to learn from mistakes or use other people's experiences as lessons for us. The problem is that many gamblers still underestimate it and assume that they will experience a different experience than that gambler. They don't experience the same thing, but they will experience other mistakes where, when that happens, they will panic and won't be able to see the way out. If they want to learn, they can see that there is a way out of every problem they encounter so that they can solve it and get a solution. We still have to learn more often so that we can improve our ability to play gambling, avoid any serious problems, and find solutions if we encounter problems. And we can also be wiser in treating gambling as entertainment and not exceeding its limits.

Yes, having awareness is very important so that we don't gamble excessively because we won't lose self-control while gambling. And when we win, we realize that it is a bonus for us, so we have to finish it immediately before it's too late. We can get lucky, but it won't happen too often, so we have to know ourselves and don't need to gamble seriously. We also don't need to try to make gambling our main income because we definitely won't be ready if we see the results we will receive, where we might lose an amount we can't imagine.
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