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1001  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microsoft helped the NSA bypass encryption, new Snowden leak reveals on: October 11, 2015, 11:02:23 PM
for some of us yes. maybe not for the mainstream.

This is ANCIENT news. The mainstream were told. They just don't give a shit.

The article is from 2013 but for some reason making the rounds today. I saw it posted on /r/technology this morning too.
the whole snowden whistleblowing thing was a pretty fucking big piece of news a long ass time ago, did people sleep through that entire 1 week period or something? that news was all over the place, did people actually manage not to see it? i dont even think its an issue of mainstream media.

The hugeness of a news item can be figured by the extent it's underplayed.

Now let's go to what we're supposed to be thinking and talking about.   Safe and allowed subjects.   Is Kardashian shaving her c---?
judging from the ray j tape, yes.

People need to remember that Microsoft/Skype are not safe to use. Even Linux distros can be tainted.
anything can be engineered to allow the government access, that's why open source exists, so people can at least look over the code themselves.
1002  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Causes of Mass shootings, suicides + - Many of them are on psychotropic drugs on: October 11, 2015, 08:38:47 PM
....im going to agree.
as to answer your question from before, i think those rare, psychotic episodes exhibited by a small percentage of individuals on those drugs isnt really explainable easily. it could be a rare case side effect of the drug induced by a combination of many factors, or it could be that perhaps the individual stopped taking the medicine, assuming themselves cured, and had a harsh relapse. i think itd be safe to say these cases are rare enough to have them be the outlying extremes of side effects.

Still, we don't have an etiology.  Only hypotheses. Of course there may be several causes.
i dont think we might ever have a defined etiology for what might cause these psychotic episodes; compared to the number of people on the drugs and the people who experience these psychotic breakdowns, these cases are rare enough that they would have to be studied on a case by case basis, and im not sure those few would have much in common. take for example, their social environments; their social lives (awkwardness vs normality) could have played a role in their decisions, and that sort of thing isnt really easy to say the least to factor into a study. not that there are that many cases to study  from, the shooters that end up having these breakdowns sometimes end up dead.
1003  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microsoft helped the NSA bypass encryption, new Snowden leak reveals on: October 11, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
for some of us yes. maybe not for the mainstream.

This is ANCIENT news. The mainstream were told. They just don't give a shit.

The article is from 2013 but for some reason making the rounds today. I saw it posted on /r/technology this morning too.
the whole snowden whistleblowing thing was a pretty fucking big piece of news a long ass time ago, did people sleep through that entire 1 week period or something? that news was all over the place, did people actually manage not to see it? i dont even think its an issue of mainstream media.
1004  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Causes of Mass shootings, suicides + - Many of them are on psychotropic drugs on: October 11, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
When you're dependent on drugs or staying away from allergens their whole life, if they are somehow without the drugs or get in contact with allergens they may have adverse reactions because their bodies naturally aren't used to them. People are taking away from their natural immune systems. They served people well for years and years and years, but people just want to trust drugs more.  

i think its more an issue of people, as in the general population, being either too ignorant or simply uneducated enough to think for themselves and end up trusting the doctors that prescribe them the drugs, not the drugs themselves. think about it, would you trust your dealer that this new kush is dank as fuck if hes been your supplier for years now? hell I would. analogy aside, there is also the placebo effect, which is far stronger than people give it credit for, and i think it plays a big role in just how effective people perceive these drugs to be when given to them by their trusty doctors in white coats. however, they fail to realize that their doctors just give them drugs to treat the symptoms for several reasons; 1, its easier than treating the cause, and 2, it gets them paid.

I get that. I do think most people these days think anything a doctor prescribes is good for you. The media sure like to make vaccines out to be necessary and anyone who doesn't want one is an idiot or worse the parents are neglecting their children. They totally ignore that vaccines have side effects too and people do get sick after having them.

I'm sure the placebo effect helps them keep the delusion also.  

Not very many people understand the effects of psychotropic drugs on crazy people.  There are REASONS why mental hospitals were before the age of drugs, called "Lunatic asylums."  

Now, that is a very general comment.

Here and now the concern isn't over the highly beneficial aspects of psychotropic drugs used on crazy people in asylums, but the modern concepts that with such drugs, a fair segment of such people can be released into society.
As more and more drugs have been developed, the concept goes farther.  It goes into a realm where people with much less severe mental illnesses - people well into the normal range, as opposed to neurotic, depressed, psychotic, schizophrenic categories - are prescribed psychotropic drugs.

Now we find some unknown fraction of these treated categories seem to be subject to violent episodes.

It isn't known if these are the exact same people who, before the age of such drugs, were labeled "lunatics" or whether it is a new mix of people from various styles of illness.  In other words, are the episodes of violence a direct side effect of such drugs, or a reversion to the basic nature of the the deranged individual, when untreated, or some combination of such causes?

Is there work being done to figure this out?



Well, looking at autism in particular....

Naw, let's not, because it has zero relation to anything I said.  


You can ignore the whole post as much as you want to, but I think it's highly related. There are obvious issues dealing with the brain and how it functions in people that are being changed by our environment.

From the National Institute for Mental Health

"Scientists don't know the exact causes of autism spectrum disorder (ASD), but research suggests that both genes and environment play important roles.
...
Environmental factors

In medicine, "environment" refers to anything outside of the body....
Well, you've gone off the deep end with this rubber band logic.

im going to agree.
as to answer your question from before, i think those rare, psychotic episodes exhibited by a small percentage of individuals on those drugs isnt really explainable easily. it could be a rare case side effect of the drug induced by a combination of many factors, or it could be that perhaps the individual stopped taking the medicine, assuming themselves cured, and had a harsh relapse. i think itd be safe to say these cases are rare enough to have them be the outlying extremes of side effects.
1005  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microsoft helped the NSA bypass encryption, new Snowden leak reveals on: October 11, 2015, 10:51:55 AM
Microsoft helped the NSA bypass encryption, new Snowden leak reveals

Microsoft worked hand-in-hand with the United States government in order to allow federal investigators to bypass encryption mechanisms meant to protect the privacy of millions of users, Edward Snowden told The Guardian.

https://www.rt.com/usa/microsoft-nsa-snowden-leak-971/
isnt this really old news?
1006  Other / Meta / Re: STOP SUPPORTING CRIMINALS AND SCAMMERS on: October 11, 2015, 07:22:13 AM
Yes, one can see the transaction on the blockchain...but that's it!  There's no way to enforce the exchange of the goods and there's no way to identify the parties involved.  When one uses fiat, at least, two participants are witness as to the identities of the parties involved, but that's not the case with bitcoin in the majority of its transactions.
Yes, most of that is true. There are ways to identify who an address belongs to, but it is very difficult.

Although your original statement that the majority of transaction is for illegal stuff, I still say that is false. You can't know for sure. Actually, I'm fairly certain a large percentage of those transactions are actually for gambling.

I think I said that the "IMPRESSION is that bitcoin is used to engage in illegal, immoral, or otherwise 'dark market activities'."  I mean, why use bitcoin unless one is buying porn, gambling, avoiding taxes, laundering money, funding terrorists, dealing drugs, or initiating a scam?  That's its "table image" in pokerspeak.  I'm not saying that it doesn't have legitimate uses; I AM saying that it attracts people whom engage in those type of activities.  The hard question is:  How do we, as a community, enforce its tender?  On the streets we beat the fool that robs our homies and that acts as a deterrent.....how do we catch the keyboard pecker who hides behind an avatar to rob our people?
or we could, you know, use our brains and not get scammed in the first place.
1007  Other / Meta / Re: Anmol_Verma making very low quality posts on: October 11, 2015, 04:36:56 AM
User Anmol_Verma is enrolled in a paid signature campaign and is making several low quality posts. A review of his post history reveals that he has made exactly 12 posts that are greater then one line and exactly 48 posts that are less then one line (if unnecessary line breaks are ignored), all of which were made in the last ~48 hours.

There are plenty of examples of insubstantial and idiotic posts in his post history, however the below quote stands out the most and is arguably the strongest reason why he needs a break.

When a new address is generated it checks that it has not been used earlier in bitcoin network.
the post you quoted might just be that the user is new and doesnt even know that much about bitcoin, hence he doesnt know the rules of the forum about spamming either. in addition, hes enrolled in yobit, who knew Roll Eyes

looking at his recent posts, they are spammy and short 5-word posts in the off topic board, but i dont know if its enough to warrant a ban as par the rules. i would like to see it happen though Grin

also, you typed a 'i' instead of a 'u' in the url tag, should fix that.

I dont unerstand the original post can anyone tell me what he means? I am too waiting for halving
"i dont know what the halvening is, but im waiting for it"

may be there isnt no one named satoshi and its just a rumour?
ok dude. time for a ban.

I dont know i think Bitcoin is already anonymous isn't it?
doesnt understand what the blockchain is
1008  Other / Archival / Re: Your ad on my website on: October 11, 2015, 02:51:06 AM
Maybe in the same way that I I should trust you.
I am a trusted friend, here my Facebook profile and add me as a friend to confirm.

https://www.facebook.com/Windows7Temas
Hello, thank you for your proposal, but I think that he did not understand the offer.

I now get $ 25 and put your ad on my website until your ad reaches the $ 38.

The question is that I need $ 25 now.

Greetings thank you.

I am interested in doing this.  Basically you put the my AdSense ads on your faucet, and when I get $37.5 I pay you $25?  Im interested in doing this but you will not have access to my AdSense account, you'll have to trust my word (of course, if it goes over, I'll pay you extra)

So, you would like he $25 payment in advance?  How will I know that you won't just run away with my money?
you can trust monbux to pay you afterwards, the issue with him paying you first is, you have zero trade history on the forum and therefore no trust (not to mention youre posting from a pretty new account).
1009  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: create a "buy now button" to which byers will pay via btc? on: October 11, 2015, 02:36:04 AM
are you looking for something along the lines of payivy? try that.
1010  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTS] cyberghost premium plus 1 year key on: October 11, 2015, 01:26:46 AM
price is missing or you are after offer.
You missed  the  line "pm me for details"
trying to see how high people will go usually isn't the greatest strategy when trying to sell something, but since you clearly don't have a price in mind, I'll offer 1 dollar  Grin
1011  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Causes of Mass shootings, suicides + - Many of them are on psychotropic drugs on: October 10, 2015, 10:25:29 PM
When you're dependent on drugs or staying away from allergens their whole life, if they are somehow without the drugs or get in contact with allergens they may have adverse reactions because their bodies naturally aren't used to them. People are taking away from their natural immune systems. They served people well for years and years and years, but people just want to trust drugs more. 
i think its more an issue of people, as in the general population, being either too ignorant or simply uneducated enough to think for themselves and end up trusting the doctors that prescribe them the drugs, not the drugs themselves. think about it, would you trust your dealer that this new kush is dank as fuck if hes been your supplier for years now? hell I would. analogy aside, there is also the placebo effect, which is far stronger than people give it credit for, and i think it plays a big role in just how effective people perceive these drugs to be when given to them by their trusty doctors in white coats. however, they fail to realize that their doctors just give them drugs to treat the symptoms for several reasons; 1, its easier than treating the cause, and 2, it gets them paid.
1012  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Causes of Mass shootings, suicides + - Many of them are on psychotropic drugs on: October 10, 2015, 09:32:57 PM
I believe there is a huge relation to psychotropic drugs and mass shootings, and reason being is because I was put on many of them and hated myself on them so I kept not taking them and had to wait for the next doctors appointment so he could sign me up for me to jam another pill down my throat.  

I was classified "bipolar" but I knew that wasn't true... I just delved into a lot of psychoactive drugs when I was younger and it made me a little crazy.  I think if I hadn't seeked help, I would've probably done something bad to the extent of what these other guys did.

Sorry you went through that.

One of the things they mention in the video about the military is the doctors don't even know how the pills are going to affect you. Everyone reacts differently, and all those horrible side effects they list happen to people or else they wouldn't be listed. I still find it totally bizarre that drugs for depression can cause suicide.

These are drugs that change your brain, that's why the word "psycho" is in the full word. They are literally playing around with people's brains and hoping for the best. You have to imagine some will go wrong, and sadly that means many people have died due to them and that's just the suicides. I believe people have died to them because of the mass shootings but it's a fact that people die because of these drugs, just how many is what's up for debate.

It's just crazy that the FDA approves these drugs when they can't necessarily say that any drug will totally help out a person going through a mental disorder.  I primarily smoked marijuana, which calmed me down and made me feel alright throughout the day, which obviously isn't FDA approved and not legal... that's why I had to stop, because I had to be approved for a background check for my job.

But it just so happened, when I stopped "prescribing myself" my daily doses of pot, my anxiety disorder came back.  So to help combat this, doctors prescribed my Zoloft, which made me feel literally insane; then they prescribed me a whole batch of combination of drugs which made me feel like a zombie... So I just quit taking all of them, and am about to go see the doctor again.  I'm just going to tell them that I've managed my anxiety through mind over matter techniques and to not make me start taking some other drug that's like the other ones I've taken.
in short, those drugs are approved ultimately because there's money going into someone's  pocket somewhere. just look at the broken state of the american pharmaceutical industry, the companies are allowed to do whatever they want with their prices, even if that includes multiplying the cost of a life saving drug 30 fold. the entire political system revolves around money in the states, and that key flaw is driving the nation down.

Right, I believe the doctors are getting kickbacks for pushing drugs. They're worse than drug dealers, when more people die from prescription drugs than illegal ones. The doctors get money for pushing the drugs, and the drug companies get more money and they pay the doctors, and it's an endless circle that relies on one thing, people buying and actually taking the drugs.

I strongly believe if you can get off of drugs, and find a natural way to solve the problem, you'd be much better off.

It's in the doctors/drug companies best interest for you to not have your problem solved, but to rather keep coming back and buying more.
slightly unrelated, but this cycle has more problems than just sapping away at consumers' pockets; keep in mind that as doctors just prescribe drugs for everything from a cough to a runny nose, over consumption of antibiotics as a whole contributes greatly to the birth of super-microbes that are resistant to antibiotics and other medicines.
1013  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Causes of Mass shootings, suicides + - Many of them are on psychotropic drugs on: October 10, 2015, 09:13:53 PM
See my thread:
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1205372.0

For a little dose of reality.  Sometimes shootings are the proper response.

Why are you such a violent anarchist? It seems like you want as much violence as possible, for whatever reason.  Shootings are never a proper response; because violence will be responded with more violence... you can't fight fire with fire.  In your thread you make it seem that drugs in general open the conscious mind.. whether you believe that, we are talking about pharmaceutical drugs and not psychoactive drugs like LSD or something like that what it seems you may be pointing too.

But seriously, what's with your admiration for violence all the time?
he is very, very edgy.
1014  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: October 10, 2015, 09:11:49 PM

Her nearest competitors, Vermont Senator Sanders and Vice President of the U.S. Joe Biden, who has yet to decide whether he will run, both made gains. Support for Sanders jumped from just over 24 percent to 28 percent, and Biden rose from 16 percent to a even 20 percent in the same time period.

I seriously think the only candidate who has the best shot of winning is going to be Sanders... there is so much support from him amongst the young democratic voters.  This notion of electing Hillary just because she is a woman is starting to disappear, and the democratic voters are actually starting to look more into Hillary's history... which could be considered a good/bad thing for the republican party.  I think if Hillary would be elected it would be a shoe in to get a republican candidate elected for the presidency, because they will non stop call her out on all the bad things she's done over the years... While Sanders has a pretty clean history with radical socialist ideas, that I think a majority of the young people want... for some reason I don't really understand.


Is sanders a candidate for the democrat party?



yes.
1015  Other / Meta / Re: Just remove signatures already. As in delete, disable, gone. on: October 10, 2015, 09:10:55 PM
I think the best is ban the signature campaign if it generates too much spam, and only allow them to return if they prove they would not allow spammers

I'm pretty sure that, just like the forum doesn't ban obvious scammers, they wouldn't ban signature campaigns. They can operate their business here as they would like to and we can't really enforce how they do it.
not to mention that sig campaigns more or less drive the forum forward in terms of posts; if they were to be disallowed i think we could all agree that the number of posts would shrink substantially.

We might not ban scammers but we ban spammers and lazy signature campaign managers should be treated the same in my opinion as they're the ones essentially causing it. Some punishment needs to be handed to them otherwise nothing is going to change.
id say theyre more or less enablng the spammers, but the distinction aside, theyre part of the problem regardless.
1016  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Causes of Mass shootings, suicides + - Many of them are on psychotropic drugs on: October 10, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
I believe there is a huge relation to psychotropic drugs and mass shootings, and reason being is because I was put on many of them and hated myself on them so I kept not taking them and had to wait for the next doctors appointment so he could sign me up for me to jam another pill down my throat.  

I was classified "bipolar" but I knew that wasn't true... I just delved into a lot of psychoactive drugs when I was younger and it made me a little crazy.  I think if I hadn't seeked help, I would've probably done something bad to the extent of what these other guys did.

Sorry you went through that.

One of the things they mention in the video about the military is the doctors don't even know how the pills are going to affect you. Everyone reacts differently, and all those horrible side effects they list happen to people or else they wouldn't be listed. I still find it totally bizarre that drugs for depression can cause suicide.

These are drugs that change your brain, that's why the word "psycho" is in the full word. They are literally playing around with people's brains and hoping for the best. You have to imagine some will go wrong, and sadly that means many people have died due to them and that's just the suicides. I believe people have died to them because of the mass shootings but it's a fact that people die because of these drugs, just how many is what's up for debate.

It's just crazy that the FDA approves these drugs when they can't necessarily say that any drug will totally help out a person going through a mental disorder.  I primarily smoked marijuana, which calmed me down and made me feel alright throughout the day, which obviously isn't FDA approved and not legal... that's why I had to stop, because I had to be approved for a background check for my job.

But it just so happened, when I stopped "prescribing myself" my daily doses of pot, my anxiety disorder came back.  So to help combat this, doctors prescribed my Zoloft, which made me feel literally insane; then they prescribed me a whole batch of combination of drugs which made me feel like a zombie... So I just quit taking all of them, and am about to go see the doctor again.  I'm just going to tell them that I've managed my anxiety through mind over matter techniques and to not make me start taking some other drug that's like the other ones I've taken.
in short, those drugs are approved ultimately because there's money going into someone's  pocket somewhere. just look at the broken state of the american pharmaceutical industry, the companies are allowed to do whatever they want with their prices, even if that includes multiplying the cost of a life saving drug 30 fold. the entire political system revolves around money in the states, and that key flaw is driving the nation down.
1017  Other / Politics & Society / Re: AMERICA PRESIDENT WHO YOU PREFER? on: October 10, 2015, 07:18:08 PM
for me i pick JEB BUSH
he got the experience
he got a president bloodline
he can make america great again


who you got and who you prefer and why?
Hillary Clinton because I want America to have her first woman president now
if that's the sole basis on what you decide who you want your next president to be, you should never try to discuss politics. i dont give a dank if the next president is the next  trans snowflake nonbinary potato handed black woman, i just want them to do their job right which no president in a long time has done.
1018  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: October 10, 2015, 06:20:49 PM
Hillary drops 10 points in just 1 week: http://www.businessinsider.com/clintons-support-plunged-10-points-2015-10

Clinton's support among Democratic voters fell 10 points within less than a week.

From October 4 to October 9, Clinton saw her support tumble from 51 percent of Democratic support to just 41 percent.

Her nearest competitors, Vermont Senator Sanders and Vice President of the U.S. Joe Biden, who has yet to decide whether he will run, both made gains. Support for Sanders jumped from just over 24 percent to 28 percent, and Biden rose from 16 percent to a even 20 percent in the same time period.
1019  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mother jailed after son drowned as she checked Facebook on: October 10, 2015, 08:16:05 AM

I feel like i'd need to see the situation happen or have more details to make a full judgement.  Maybe it was just an unfortunate event and she was a good parent 99.99% of the time but just got unlucky.  But yeah it seems bad not keeping an eye on child based on information here.

I've seen many "good parents" what i'd consider not watching their child fully at all times.
a valid point, however, it appears that this wasnt the first time the mother lost track of her child:
from the article:

"The court also heard how she had let Joshua play out in the road when she lived in Hull in August 2013. Neighbours contacted social services after he narrowly avoided being hit by a car. Barnett pleaded guilty to four counts of child cruelty."

what a shame, she isnt fit to be a parent imo, even if she did care for her child (which im assuming she did, given that she did try to save him after finding that he had drowned).
1020  Other / Meta / Re: Can a minor do this??? on: October 10, 2015, 08:01:34 AM
Off topic or useless can probably describe most of sanjx's and op's posts along with most others on yobit and secondstrade and he's now wanting more kids he knows to do the same and that's why something needs to be done about these campaigns. When they realise they can get paid to post crap why not tell your friends or open multiple accounts to do the same every day?
I somewhat get the feeling that the demographic of most shit-posters is young adults who live in countries that have a lowish standard of living.

I don't think very many 15 year olds (or 12 year olds, or whatever year olds) would have very much use for the money they could earn from shit posting on signature deals. I would speculate that most miners that post here would probably have more of a genuine interest in Bitcoin, and would have some level of technical expertise.    
dont forget the gambling addicts.
Do you think there are a lot of underage gambling addicts out there? Besides Candystripes, I am not aware of any, and I believe there is a good chance that Candy is no longer underage.
i wouldnt necessarily say "a lot" but underage gambling is a thing, like it or not. take the csgo skin betting thing for example: http://wccftech.com/problem-underage-gambling-csgo-rise/
i see stories on reddit pop up from time to time about how some teenager lost thousands (here's a recent one: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3nmtrs/17_spent_and_lost_over_3000_for_betting/?ref=search_posts) on betting skins. given that younger people are getting more involved and keeping up to date with technology, I wouldnt put it outside the realm of possibility to say that there are minors on this forum who have picked up on bitcoin and have discovered that gambling with bitcoin is incredibly easy. also, the general level of maturity and displays narrow minded thinking on this forum makes me think there are numerous minors shitposting on here.
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