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1001  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Too many ICO incoming, i'm lost in those !! on: October 22, 2017, 09:14:13 AM
mistakes are teachers in the future, without practice we do not know theory. be careful follow ico dnot be tempted  discon, follow ico or altcoin which have good quality, and solid team. see EDG, BITDICE or wait EON this token will be profitable in next time .
1002  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: It's Time to Buy Alt Coin on: October 21, 2017, 10:51:55 PM
too much altcoin and tokens that have sprung up, should please be careful and make no mistake invest.
1003  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you think about bitcoin interest in the near future? on: October 09, 2017, 08:42:15 AM
difficult bitcoin as an industry, because the perspective modern on industry is far away with crypto world.
1004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: a little worries..!! on: September 27, 2017, 04:08:52 AM
if there is war between KOREA NORTH and AMERICA will be bad for bitcoin.?

depending american and north korea fighting using ally or not. if Americans with ally, then 3rd world war will happen, from  Middle East until Asia will break conflict, which in fear is use 3rd world war by terrorists. yes if there is a war then the crisis will also happen , and impact in bitcoin .
1005  Economy / Economics / Re: New rich people thanks to BTC on: September 27, 2017, 02:05:50 AM
very difficult, it has not been tax cut, and calculation tax country. if not taxed , state can accuse money laundering . and then many new rich people from bitcoin, but have to pass the tax, I'm afraid if there is a case inflation and caused a global crisis due to bitcoin
1006  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Split BTC in different wallets? on: September 27, 2017, 01:47:03 AM
Dear friends,

I have few btc which i stored in payeer. But upon receiving suggestion from you guys, I decided to split them in 4 wallets just in case if any company has any issues etc:

Payeer
cryptopay
coinbase
Exodus

Can you please advise if it is actually a good idea to split them or if there is any benefit to put all in one wallet?  

I understand it is good to have ledger nano, but from vieo reviews in youtube,  I don't find it user friendly so  I do not want to use it as yet.

Thanks.  Cheesy
yes, it should be like that, dnot save btc long time with account exchange, it is very dangerous, because hackers or malware attacks, who is know "when hackers start attacking ? " . if split btc for some devlopher wallet btc , is not really necessary. but if you want to be safe, why not?. I suggest mycelium wallet & blockchain.info , this wallet very save .
1007  Economy / Economics / Re: China will become Super Power ? on: September 26, 2017, 04:09:05 AM
hi .. .Roll Eyes

China will become super power in few years !! sure

First reason is that they are creating everything expect only one thing .. .and the thing is Medical products .. not medical instruments ...

but they are working on them too they will manufacture them too .. !!

and GuyZZZ ? you know ? why china is not raising there currency price ? ? ?  Think .. !! will reveal.

I dont know , But China Best Players with bitcoin or money game .
1008  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can states buy all bitcoin? on: September 25, 2017, 11:37:47 PM
surely will be a monopoly, but ownership of 51℅ bitcoin in one organization is quite difficult at this time.
1009  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is long term investment on: September 24, 2017, 06:02:47 PM
Ethereum is better for long term invest?
Please share your valuable opinion.

yes, sees bitcoin price rising due market exchange on rare bitcoin, because use bitcoin for buy crowdsale ico and gambling, this is the same as eth , eth deck in some ico crowdsale reaches 1 million eth and use gambling ,  trading eth maybe will increase to 450 $.
1010  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Electroneum just HYPE? Watch 2 min video and find out!! on: September 24, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
seems to lead to scams, too many tokens and new ico is not too problematic, profitable on eth and bitcoin values for several months because some crowdsale ico .
1011  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ALT COIN WILL DIE?? FAVORITE INVEST?? on: September 22, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
hi all I just want to ask. what ALT coin will die soon?
and I will invest coin, any coin promising??


so many altcoin profitable , i'm interested in waves and buy some eth, maybe you can see fantastic ico like enjine , presale token 7M $
1012  Economy / Economics / Re: China closes exchanges on: September 22, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
hmm , so hard with China , like a same Russia goverment closed regulation bitcoin .
1013  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I stop Buying BTC? on: September 21, 2017, 05:30:37 PM
Should I stop buying BTC for above market value or should I start paying the listed price? I support Bitcoin and still pay 5k a BTC does anyone see bitcoin going back up?

In fact ,you should know marketcaps day, 7 days and months, or year. if you believe bitcoin will increase again, why not buy more ?, but many people say "bitcoin have high fluaktatif price " . personally, i prefer investing to some altcoins have good quality.
1014  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: September 21, 2017, 05:23:00 PM
Introduce the child with money,
"how does money have value?" (this includes the market). after that explain  real money with digital money, and then introduce child "what is cryptocurrency ? ", maybe you give a negative understanding about money and bitcoin, if you dont want to have problems later on. but you need to understand what cryptocurrency is widely
1015  Economy / Economics / Re: £500 to spend, on Ether or Bitcoin? on: September 21, 2017, 05:16:56 PM
Hi All,

I have just over £500 to spend and I'm not sure where I should be investing this.

Do I buy a small fraction of a bitcoin or buy 2 ethers?

What would you do?

I'm looking for some long term investment.

Also, i'm hoping to contribute £100 per month towards either one but not sure which direction I should be taking.


Many Thanks

if you looking for profits should buy a quality token or altcoin, if only have a small amount of capital. avoid buying bitcoins and keep them because bitcoin have high fluktuatif value, or you can invest in mining.
1016  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [EON] EXSCUDO - ICO successfully finished! on: September 18, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
closer to October, hopefully not in the retreat again. many people still waiting for this exchange.
1017  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: KERESAHAN AKAN AKUN MEW on: September 18, 2017, 11:46:36 AM
hindari aja MEW , tapi kalok terpaksa buka MEW kalok bisa bukanya dari bookmark yang ada . jangan asal buka MEW , tau tau buka yang scams jadi berabe .
1018  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties on: September 18, 2017, 11:41:43 AM
wager roadmap still long, still waiting for beta net from wager, and takes a very long time. hopefully team good works .
1019  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah akun VIP bisa di hack???? on: September 10, 2017, 01:07:01 PM
Temen saya pernah berbagi pengalaman kalau akun VIP nya di hack

bisa gan , makanya harus hati hati sama malware , keylogger , wifi open public .
1020  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pajak on: September 10, 2017, 12:57:45 PM
Apakah penghasilan dari bitcoin di kenakan pajak penghasilan ?
bisa ya bisa tidak, tergantung kondisi penghasilan dan keuangan agan.
pada hakikatnya semua penghasilan itu dikenakan pajak kecuali bila sudah ada UU bebas pajaknya (pengecualiannya)
penjualan harta berupa emas simpanan & dollar simpanan juga BISA kena pajak, dengan aturan:
bila terdapat selisih keuntungan dari harga jual dan beli, dianggap sebagai penghasilan & diperhitungkan (digabung)
ke dalam penghasilan dengan tarif umum Ps17, yaitu sampe 54jt/thn = 0% pajak <~ PTKP tahun kemaren
lalu setelah itu sampai dengan 50jt : 5%, diatas 50jt sd 250jt : 15%, dst

nah sekarang jual/beli bitcoin mau dianggap sebagai usaha atau jual aset/harta, tinggal ikuti aturannya
walaupun aturan specific mengenai bitcoin belum ada UU, pasal & PP nya,
klo sekelas vip & triv, exchanger besar, pasti ikut ke aturan perpajakan usaha
tapi sbg perseorangan, menurut ane masuk ke kategori penghasilan dari penjualan harta (bayar pajak atas keuntungan saja)
klo belum gede gede banget (masih dibawah 54jt) sih tenang aja, lagian pasti kepake buat biaya hidup
jadi gak akan kentara penambahan harta agan selama setahun...
kembali lagi ke agan, mau mengakui sebagai penghasilan gak? mau bayar pajak atau gak?

repotnya kalo tahun kemaren saldo tabungan 50jt, lalu tahun ini jadi 200jt...
padahal pekerjaan pegawai, gaji setahun 42jt (3.5jt/bulan)... kan gak singkron,
ternyata 15jt agan invest ke btc dan naek 10x lipat dan agan tunaikan ke saldo tab rupiah +150jt
orang pajak kalo dapet data ini akan nanya, uangnya nambah segitu dari mana?
nah pasti agan harus jelasin nambah dari mana... dari manapun = dianggap penghasilan & harus bayar pajak
kecuali hibah, buktiin pake akta hibah. dari hadiah undian, buktiin udah dipotong pajak hadiah undian
atau dari manapun itu harus bisa agan buktikan asas perpajakannya sudah terpenuhi

kita menganut self assessment pajak, itung & lapor & bayar pajak sendiri, caritau jg infonya sendiri  Grin
jadi orang pajak akan nanya klo ada yg keliatan mencurigakan secara finansial yg bisa diliat mereka
klo agan nimbun emas, bitcoin, dollar di rumah... kan susah terlihat/dicek ama orang pajak  Roll Eyes
jadi lapor aja sewajarnya menurut agan... tapi klo ketauan ya siap siap aja alasannya  Cheesy

Apakah penghasilan dari bitcoin di kenakan pajak penghasilan ?
kalau penghasilan dari bitcoin melebihi 200juta dan ada saldo direkening kita melebihi 200juta harusnya dikenakan pajak penghasilan,karena pemerintah kita indonesia ada wacana setiap warga indonesia yanag mempunya NPWP akan disinkronkan data rekening bank kita dengan NPWP kita,dan apabila terdapat saldo didalam rekening kita yang melebihi 200juta dikenakan pajak penghasilan untuk wajib pajak. tapi saya juga belum tau perkembangnya sudah direalisasikan atau belum. soalnya masih ada pro dan kontra.
iya gan klo tadinya saldo rata-rata 10jt, tiba-tiba akhir tahun 200jt...
terus ke pantau/detek ama orang pajak, ya siap siap aja ada kemungkinan bakal dipanggil/ditanya
tapi memiliki saldo 200jt gak serta merta langsung dikenakan pajak penghasilan
hanya besar kemungkinan akan diawasi oleh pihak pajak terkait kewajiban perpajakannya selama ini
lagian perasaan batasannya udah dinaikin jadi 1 miliar deh ama ibu SMI

Maaf seribu maaf... postingan ane panjang lebar, klo urusan pajak pasti paaaaaaaanjang
bila ada yg salah dan perlu dikoreksi... monggo silahkan,
ane juga manusia dan masih terus belajar, pasti ada salahnya

thanks gan infonya , berguna banget Cheesy .
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