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10121  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: bought btc from user using paypal, refuses to send, how to chargeback? on: August 03, 2016, 02:43:01 AM
I sent some paypal to a user here to buy btc,  and he now claims his paypal was blocked and can't use it, and he haven't send me the btc.
I was wondering how exactly should I report this to paypal so I get a refund? digital goods? I'm not sure what would be the best way to guarantee paypal gives me back my money, because I think if I mention bitcoin they probably wont.
thanks for any advice.

if i understood it right you pay him via paypal, as far as i know you can just get your money back by filing a dispute.
you may also try to post a scam accusation to this user so you would be able to document who scam who.  do it here and follow the format. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Yes, I know I have to fill a dispute, but after doing a little research, I've found out that if you mention you were buying bitcoins when you dispute a transaction with paypal, they won't refund you.  I want to know how exactly should I report this transaction to paypal WITHOUT mentioning bitcoins, of course.
thanks!

lol that's the sad part.  Grin don't mention bitcoin then, let the other party explain his side.
I think paypal as dickhead as they are believe the buyer so much that they'd return the funds and let the seller explain things after.
10122  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITFINEX crashed, bitcoin price falls. Will it recover? on: August 03, 2016, 02:37:39 AM
it may actually take time for bitcoin to get back to 650. like what happened before it has to once again build trust.


perfect time to buy cheap coins. please people, dont regret buying them cheap

treat this saga as a discount day.

Bought $100 worth. Why not? This is your one chance to ever get them this cheap. Buy up while you can people! To the mooooooon Wink. Seriously though, I think this will get the volatility going that we do desperately need in the market right now. No one gets excited over flat prices!

you could have bought the newer coin which is becoming popular this time. ETC would be much better to go with, can potentially go up any moment and no one controls it.
10123  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: bought btc from user using paypal, refuses to send, how to chargeback? on: August 03, 2016, 01:40:29 AM
I sent some paypal to a user here to buy btc,  and he now claims his paypal was blocked and can't use it, and he haven't send me the btc.
I was wondering how exactly should I report this to paypal so I get a refund? digital goods? I'm not sure what would be the best way to guarantee paypal gives me back my money, because I think if I mention bitcoin they probably wont.
thanks for any advice.

if i understood it right you pay him via paypal, as far as i know you can just get your money back by filing a dispute.
you may also try to post a scam accusation to this user so you would be able to document who scam who.  do it here and follow the format. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
10124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETC is now 3rd crypto marketcap in the world!!! on: August 03, 2016, 01:22:21 AM
We are hearing now that Bitfinex hack was BTC and ETC wallets.

All information is coming from Zane Tackett on his reddit account. You're wrong......it's bitcoin that was stolen.

https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett?count=25&after=t1_d61qyzw

It is BTC that was stolen from Bitfinex, but some are speculating that the law says that all assets on Bitfinex will be hit proportionally:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1573507.msg15795468#msg15795468

if you own an exchange and got hacked of course you wanna make it worse like everything is stolen. I bet the real hacker was cursing the exchange the whole day for mentioning they've lost thousands of btc when they don't actually loss any. Bitfinex is going gox thats all.
10125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum RICO [CLOSED] on: August 03, 2016, 01:14:25 AM
I don't want to seem so eager but... when you expect to release XAURUM new wallet? and... When can we withdraw our RICO coins?
for god sake... just look the thread, your answer is in this same page

Sorry.. but I can read and I've read that post indeed... The point is I don't know but for me "in a few days" is a period of time that takes from 0,00001 seconds (even less) to 1548864412478844 years (even more)... it depends of your understanding of the word "few"... so... I prefer (if possible) a more precise time interval.


It doesn't matter for now whether few days means a month or a year. its just if you are willing to wait.
i'm more interested to know how much is its value per xaurum after the RICO.  if people are going to keep thier coins for longer term invest, then i guess its volume on exchange is not going to be considerable for traders.
10126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETC is now 3rd crypto marketcap in the world!!! on: August 02, 2016, 06:33:02 PM
Things are not that simple , this coin has rised up surprisingly , and it is still moving up depending on the falling down of Bitcoin price , but sure this increasing has  limits , it is not like that coins which pump 400% in one or two days , to understand more read this : http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/08/02/ethereum-classic-price-technical-analysis-etc-topping/

The sudden rise has limits of course but if ETH bagholders are moving to ETC, I would simply assume ETC is going to be a mainstream compare to ETH.
And it will serve its purpose so long as it has value.
10127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do bitcoin accepted in your country? on: August 02, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
Hell with banko central ng pilipinas. I'm from Philippines. I don't use my bitcoin much to buy stuff online but i use it to buy altcoins for trading.
Move my coins to paypal funds if I wanted to buy something online. I would somehow wanna try shopping using bitcoin if there will be a local computer store accepting it.
10128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 02, 2016, 05:07:07 PM
ETC hashrate now one third of Ethereum's. Bitcoin dumping, Ethereum Dumping. Perfect storm for more growth of ETC Price. Get your moon suits ready.

Wearing it all the time while even on toilet bowl dumping shits. 
I now regret not investing a lot more on ETC back when its just cents yet. I was sop busy trying to invest on some ICO when the ETC hit the news.
10129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | ICO - 20% Bonus ends in 22 hours | New Blockchain Platform on: August 02, 2016, 04:27:37 PM
I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

Wasserman, i appreciate you have changed your mind and try to offer escrow from now. That will help a lot.
I do not understand what the obsession with seeing the face of Frank. Even Frank could be anyone, that does not interest me. I just want the platform to be successful. I never knew or will know who is Nakamoto and I do not care.

Do not worry about the trolls, fudders gonna FUD!
I wanna scam btcs myself but this wasserman got it the first.  its more than 60btc already so excuse me for being curious about Frank's face  Grin
During Nakamoto's time, we never hear of bitcoin scammers yet.


10130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | ICO - 20% Bonus ends in 22 hours | New Blockchain Platform on: August 02, 2016, 02:33:32 PM
I can offer a compromise:

I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.

I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.

I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?

This could settle the situation, its enough for us to shut out mouth and maybe invest to the project as well.
I don't have much BTC, its all that i have but will invest to the project if seeing the dev is legit. wasserman is more than a retard if he still rejects this offer.
10131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: etc will reach 0.01 ? on: August 02, 2016, 06:35:20 AM
look at the massive pump today, i think etc will reach 0.01 Roll Eyes

It may not, they've just started to dump it. most likely, the rest of the whales will keep milking its price now that they get to have more to invest to ETC. but we'll see. ETC seem to be getting popular than ETH itself.

Etc is not etc and i dont believe that it will cross to that price and seems way to far to be happen but still little possibilites will be there if the big whales and other big traders will lift up that coin for some good purposes but seems the way i look at it it will got the same fortune to those other promising coin that has been dump, although it was bit popular today its because it is being link to eth but still it will not gaurantee that this coin would surpass eth and b rise to that price.
Its linked to ETH because they say its the original ETH, smart contracts and other features are still there as far as i know.  but it may take time to reach 0.01 probably.  ETC once drop to $0.50 and may drop to $1 if they dump it again. in fact its slowly going there.
10132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin @ $592.. we are crashing on: August 02, 2016, 06:28:47 AM
Nothing to worry about, just keep calm and buy bitcoin , lets see how btc bleed same thing happen last summer, nothing to worry about! just dont hold any shit coins, cause all the market will go down, expect from ETC as it seems with that freaking insane volume!

I was actually expecting it to plummet down to 0.002 or maybe even less when the rest of them will to take profit.
There are numbers dumpers who did it, the rest are still waiting whether it will retrace back. once time has passed and yet it didn't, the rest will dump it.  I'm still waiting whether to dump mine too or not.
10133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] OPAIR | ICO - 20% Bonus ends in 2 days | New Blockchain Platform on: August 02, 2016, 06:15:34 AM
https://www.opair.co/stats/

Who is this fucking retarded just invested 7.5 btc on 1st of August? lmao, this guy didn't hear our warning, must be a fool, sorry for your potential losses, without any real personal info. Even OP refused the radio talk, do you know what does that hint? Means OP even doesn't wanna spend a little money to hire 2 people to scam us. SHADY AND PATHETIC SCAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Roll Eyes

Its just them for sure. The guy is a retard and would want to lure people to invest. 
I will even warn those who participate the signature campaign to stop them for they get paid with a coin that has no value. Lutpin should have seen this.
10134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: etc will reach 0.01 ? on: August 02, 2016, 06:07:51 AM
look at the massive pump today, i think etc will reach 0.01 Roll Eyes

It may not, they've just started to dump it. most likely, the rest of the whales will keep milking its price now that they get to have more to invest to ETC. but we'll see. ETC seem to be getting popular than ETH itself.
10135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETC price speculation on: August 02, 2016, 05:39:57 AM
I can see its starting to go down now on bittrex. RED candle sticks drawing down.
By the time they dump it, BTC will RISE a bit so I'm getting ready to hit binary option when it starts BTC/USD to go UP! Smiley
10136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / ETC price speculation on: August 02, 2016, 05:25:42 AM
I don't see a thread about ETC price speculation so I'm creating one.
It has Rise up tremendously as of now its 60+% I'm not sure if this is realistic but they may all dump this time that may result the price to go down to $0.50 again. What dyou think?
10137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Building Blockchain Based App Development Environments on: August 02, 2016, 05:16:28 AM
Seeing how it dropped to almost 500, i guess the coin don't need to have fudster anymore.
Those who have invested so far will really have to stick to wait for how long RISE may bounce back. Good luck everyone.
10138  Other / Meta / Re: Proposal: remove steemit links on: August 02, 2016, 05:12:35 AM
I don't have a clue how steemit works. do they get paid if any random person looks at a link or does the reader have to be signed in to steemit as well?

either way it's cheesy and blatant.

as far as I know yes. users gets paid thru the votes. its a win-win for steem supporters as they get to spam, spread the word and earn at the same time. This may force user to join the mess seeing how they can take advantage of this opportunity.
10139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who would you rather have sex with Trump or Clinton? on: August 02, 2016, 04:59:15 AM
Why is Trumps daughter Ivanka not on the list? I would gladly do it for here despite how i hate plagiarism. 


When the new POTUS is elected they decide to abuse their power (which isn't that big a stretch of the imagination). They are looking out the window and see you walking by the Whitehouse. They tell the Secret Police to go out, grab you and put you in the basement. Who would you rather be president in this situation, Hillery or "the Donald"? Who's the star of your POTUS rape fantasy?

i think both donald and hillary are terrible in bed. if i was forced to have sex with one of the, i would absolutely choose Hillary clinton. because she may smell good but donald might stink i suppose..

I think they might both smell good. Rich people usually can buy the best fragrances from expensive stores.

Are you two for real? You are now talking about their smells. Wait wait. Is it Bill or Hillary? I would not want to insert this in an ass. I prefere the other hole.  Angry

Seem like they really took this thread seriously, this could turn out to be a rape plot in the next few days.
10140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin @ $592.. we are crashing on: August 02, 2016, 04:46:28 AM
Ethereum Classic is rising while Ethereum and Bitcoin are falling. I bet the free fall will end today but it might not  Wink join the ride.

Must really be one of the reason as investors see ETH derivative as innovative as they are.
Too bad I only have few ETC this time. I wish I have decided earlier to invest more to it. I could have profit exponentially.
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