Folks, Instamining/centralized mining/botnet mining these tend to lose any impact on the coins lives. Artforz was known to have mined 100s of thousands of LTC, along with BCX and a few others. IT IS NOT A VALID POINT TO DISCUSS. Even if it is, please stop garbaging this thread with negativity. Compared to Monero BBR has pretty low volume, along with the instamine it should be an obvious choice.
noone cares who mines the coins, it's either dumped by a lot of individuals to pay for mining costs etc. or it's dumped by one or two botnet operators, noone really cares,
See what you did there? Contradicted yourself. I started reading about this type of typical arguments and started looking into BBR. It looks like you have bought into a certain coin, and now will have to inevitably live the life of a cheerleader. You make your decision based on who else is buying the coin(which isn't bad per se), but it can bite you back in the arse. Now who is knowledgeable to list positives of these two coins. Constant negativity is not going to help. Botnets dont have much of an effect, that is true, since it's known that the majority of them dump anyway. But when it comes to truly unfair instamines, like Boolberrys instamine with PGPU's(which is still going on), in which the instaminer holds his/her coins, that hinders the coin Immensely(it wont ever get accepted by store, regular joe, etc) since one person has gained unfairly, a huge amount of coins, especially since BBR has a slower emission rate than XMR, that only makes the instamine much worse. |
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How can we discuss the positives of both coins and see what the differences are there?
I have read this instamine by a certain miner allegation. I then read about Botnets mining Monero and this discussion was getting masked by cheerleaders, which is why I started looking at other CN coins.
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BBR has been mined by a miner who specializes in writing GPU miners (years or experience starting with BTC, LTC etc)
XMR has been mined by 2 large Botnet operators amongst other malware purchasable on HackForums (100s of thousands of overall supply to date)
Positives
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Lets start adding them here.
The largest confirmed botnet owner for xmr only had 20 cpu's under his control...That is hardly anything tbh. Only 11% of all XMR's have been mined, and there is no instamine, you can check by on monerochain.org Boolberry is a different story, it has a confirmed PGPU miner who is confirmed to make over 4,000 Boolberry per day at currency hashrate, and was making 5,000-7,000 per day just a month ago. Lowest he was making, was 1,000 per day(which is still very high) during the pump, so he at least has over 200,000 Boolberry by now, making that a HUGE instamine BTW, Boolberry has a PGPU miner AND Botnets |
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Boolberry has an instamine of over 100k coins at least, by that guy with the PGPU, getting previously 5-7k coins per day, now getting above 4k+ coins per day since the difficulty drop again. He probably has over 200k boolberrys by now, especially since hes been mining for months.
I dont know why anyone would even buy that coin. Its instamine is similar(though not as severe) as Darkcoins instamine.
Boolberry is able to be instamined with a PGPU, because it uses the Wild Keccak algo, instead of Cryptonight, which xmr and the other cryptonote coins use.
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I voted for fiscus, not sure what i means, but like the ring to it... Fiscuscoin? FSC ?
I vote for fiscus also. I have no idea what roman coin is, but every other name on the voting list is crap. |
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How often is the status of this site updated? Is it a daily trend buy/sell/hold or a long term view?
No matter how often its updated, im doing exactly opposite of what they say. Finally, a smart newbie. Yes, that site is giving you wrong info so they could gain off of the people listening to them. So they say to sell drk for example, so they can tr and get cheap drk, then they say to buy, to try and create a pump. Anyway, op is a dumbass, his site says to buy eartcoin lmfao. That whole website is bullshit. |
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Darkota would be a good name for annon coin. You should make your own coin, if its truly annon noone will know if you instamined it or not  And there seem to be serious shortage of annon coins so it will probably be a success too LOL, I love his retarded post. This is how zombies get produced and he will also reproduce one day and produce more zombies. What he doesn't know is that a lot of the BitMonero miners were good ole friends of believers of Bytecoin and had optimized "slow_hash" simpleminer and were Instamining from the get go. LMAO @ slow_hash, it was ownage. One of the most hilarious kind. One thing for sure though. The optimized wild keccac miner was brilliant. It was "ArtForz"y. Nature always rewards the smarts. It punishes dumb "investors". You will see it one day when BBR comes into the rightful limelight and all this "network" effect ceases from the pumpndumpers. Nice lying there, you're a sockpuppet newbie account...It's funny how all the supporters of the instamined/premined coins, boolberry and bytecoin, are newbies who are clearly sockpuppet accounts. Monero was never instmained, you can check by the hashrate on monerochain.org Boolberry was instamined, you can check by their hashrate as well, along with the fact that a few people own a PGPU, and have been making 5-7k boolbery per day for a long time, and are still making over 4k boolberry per day as of now. The instamine for boolberry is in the hundreds of thousands. Not lying. Instamining happens when developers intentionally introduce low difficulty for certain blocks and or mine in secrecy for a long time. Do you think optimized Bitcoin miners and hardware don't exist? Does that make BTC "instamine"? SHA-3 is what will be used in 2020+. BBR is from the future today. This is just the beginning. You are a dumb sockpuppet who got caught up in the hype and "invested" in a certain coin with your limited resources. You will be spending the rest of your life convincing yourself that you made the right decision and posting dumb posts trying to convince others that you have made the right decisions and go on a smear campaign against others. That is not peculiar to you, that is just how it works. You are not just a sockpuppet, you are a dumb infected program. That's funny because you're account was made 30 minutes ago. You're a boolberry/bytecoin shill. Those instamined/premined coins have no future. Boolberry has had a guy making over 5,000 boolberrys per day, for over 2 months with his PGPU and he's still making over 4k Boolberyr per day!! He by now owns over 200k boolberry, which means Boolberry can be catergorized in the list of coins that have severe instamines. Clearly some prefer PGPUs to Botnets.  Also apparently there are some people called "traders" who Buy low and Sell high. They are cheating. Listen, I am not trying to convince you of anything. You have to spend the rest of your time here convincing yourself more than convincing others. Technicalities will surface on their own in time and some people already know this. Ok, Are you stupid?! That's the question. Botnets make substantially less coins than PGPU's, since most botnets run on 32 bit computers, and that makes a very measly amount of coins. PGPU's are optimized miners and make thousands of coins a day. Also, are you forgetting that Boolberry has Botnets as well! Botnets PLUS PGPU's. Boolberry has PGPU's that mine over 4,000 Boolberry per day by a few people, and christian(the guy who first started using the PGPU to instamine boolberry) has been instamining and getting over 4,000 boolberry per day, for over 2 months! Boolberry has over a 100,000+ Instamine, and it has Botnets...That's what I call a fail. Over 10% of that coin has been instamined, and I'm lowballing. |
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Darkota would be a good name for annon coin. You should make your own coin, if its truly annon noone will know if you instamined it or not And there seem to be serious shortage of annon coins so it will probably be a success too LOL, I love his retarded post. This is how zombies get produced and he will also reproduce one day and produce more zombies. What he doesn't know is that a lot of the BitMonero miners were good ole friends of believers of Bytecoin and had optimized "slow_hash" simpleminer and were Instamining from the get go. LMAO @ slow_hash, it was ownage. One of the most hilarious kind. One thing for sure though. The optimized wild keccac miner was brilliant. It was "ArtForz"y. Nature always rewards the smarts. It punishes dumb "investors". You will see it one day when BBR comes into the rightful limelight and all this "network" effect ceases from the pumpndumpers. Nice lying there, you're a sockpuppet newbie account...It's funny how all the supporters of the instamined/premined coins, boolberry and bytecoin, are newbies who are clearly sockpuppet accounts. Monero was never instmained, you can check by the hashrate on monerochain.org Boolberry was instamined, you can check by their hashrate as well, along with the fact that a few people own a PGPU, and have been making 5-7k boolbery per day for a long time, and are still making over 4k boolberry per day as of now. The instamine for boolberry is in the hundreds of thousands. Not lying. Instamining happens when developers intentionally introduce low difficulty for certain blocks and or mine in secrecy for a long time. Do you think optimized Bitcoin miners and hardware don't exist? Does that make BTC "instamine"? SHA-3 is what will be used in 2020+. BBR is from the future today. This is just the beginning. You are a dumb sockpuppet who got caught up in the hype and "invested" in a certain coin with your limited resources. You will be spending the rest of your life convincing yourself that you made the right decision and posting dumb posts trying to convince others that you have made the right decisions and go on a smear campaign against others. That is not peculiar to you, that is just how it works. You are not just a sockpuppet, you are a dumb infected program. That's funny because you're account was made 30 minutes ago. You're a boolberry/bytecoin shill. Those instamined/premined coins have no future. Boolberry has had a guy making over 5,000 boolberrys per day, for over 2 months with his PGPU and he's still making over 4k Boolberyr per day!! He by now owns over 200k boolberry, which means Boolberry can be catergorized in the list of coins that have severe instamines. |
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Darkota would be a good name for annon coin. You should make your own coin, if its truly annon noone will know if you instamined it or not And there seem to be serious shortage of annon coins so it will probably be a success too LOL, I love his retarded post. This is how zombies get produced and he will also reproduce one day and produce more zombies. What he doesn't know is that a lot of the BitMonero miners were good ole friends of believers of Bytecoin and had optimized "slow_hash" simpleminer and were Instamining from the get go. LMAO @ slow_hash, it was ownage. One of the most hilarious kind. One thing for sure though. The optimized wild keccac miner was brilliant. It was "ArtForz"y. Nature always rewards the smarts. It punishes dumb "investors". You will see it one day when BBR comes into the rightful limelight and all this "network" effect ceases from the pumpndumpers. Nice lying there, you're a sockpuppet newbie account...It's funny how all the supporters of the instamined/premined coins, boolberry and bytecoin, are newbies who are clearly sockpuppet accounts. Monero was never instmained, you can check by the hashrate on monerochain.org Boolberry was instamined, you can check by their hashrate as well, along with the fact that a few people own a PGPU, and have been making 5-7k boolbery per day for a long time, and are still making over 4k boolberry per day as of now. The instamine for boolberry is in the hundreds of thousands. |
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Shhhh after a long time we have a Litecoin like PnD and people will not let it be In any case, I think the right CN coin to pump is Boolberry.  Boolberry is such a bad name marketingwise Monero is much better. Opinion Shhhh after a long time we have a Litecoin like PnD and people will not let it be In any case, I think the right CN coin to pump is Boolberry. Boolberry is such a bad name marketingwise Monero is much better. boolberry also has a 100k+ coin instamine. first time i've heard that one, please enlighten me. Multiply the # of days that guy was mining with his private gpu miner making 5-7k boolberry per day, then multiply again during the pump when he made 1-2k boolberry per day, then multiply again after the dump, where the diff has dropped, and hes now making back 4-5k boolberry per day. Over 100k instamine for boolberry. |
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Shhhh after a long time we have a Litecoin like PnD and people will not let it be In any case, I think the right CN coin to pump is Boolberry. Boolberry is such a bad name marketingwise Monero is much better. boolberry also has a 100k+ coin instamine. |
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Hashrate/difficulty doesn't necessarily mean the coin is useful, ASICs got added to the network recently, miners hoping to get a ROI. Not useful = dead. It paused falling for now, nothing falls in a straight line, but it'll resume its fall soon. Miners hoping to get a ROI doesn't necessarily mean they will get it. I agree, those ASIC miners will simply dump all their litecoins(as weve been seeing) to gain profit/break even, thus reducing the price. Litecoin will fall into oblivion. |
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i tell ya: way more people hold LTCare Litecoin Bagholders than Monero. Polo will not have more volume with xmr than they had with LTC so removing LTC was a bad choice and possibly pisses off a lot of LTC-people. Adding monero, try something new - sweet, but removing LTC-markets is not so clever. Just my usual 2 cents.
Sir, you're speaking out of your ass. Litecoin has almost no volume on Most exchanges. Mintpal it has less 20 btc volume, Poloniex it has less than 1 btc volume. Cryptsy, it has less than 20 btc volume.(FYI, Litecoin is mostly traded on Btc-e, Okcoin, etc) Even Pinkcoin has more volume than Litecoin on those exchanges, thus it made a lot of sense to switch the no-volume Litecoin market for a coin that would actually bring in volume.. |
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I'm going to stick my neck out and give a relatively precise range.
$30k-$3M.
I'm curious why all the new TLDs would have ANY impact on prices of "real" domain names (.com first, then .org, then the two-letter country codes, and then everything else may's well be xxJJeiN39995839.donkeyprincessmonkeygiraffeheadsonplattersofwhatever939cx58395C CiJ)
True, .com domain names are practically Gold...they're rare and the most common and widely used. Then .org comes after .com in use and commonness, then .net comes after .org in use and rarity, and then the rest of all the domain extensions. Frankly, all these new Shit domain name extensions coming out makes no sense, No normal human with an IQ under 200, will be able to memorize the 1000's of domain name extensions being created by those domain registrars...I've fricking seen .camera, .soap, .dishwasher., .chores., .teachmehowtodougie  It's just stupid as hell. |
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Anything with a country or place name is a moronic idea. It defeats one of the main attractions of any good currency; being accepted by as many people as possible. Why would I use Californiacoin, when I could use Bitcoin, which is accepted by the rest of the world as well?
So, have people never accepted US dollars in another country? Not really. Try to buy something with 1000 "Tiyin" in your town. Same if i try to buy something with dollar in my village... I actually agree with Brilliantrocket. "Country Coins" like Spaincoin etc etc, are shitcoins. There's no use for coins like that, since Bitcoin can already be used all around the world. |
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the emission halves every 512 days?
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14 days. anything under that is stupid low.
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If a producer of food were to not adhere to food safety rules then consumers could potentially die. This would likely result in the producer going out of business. With regulations this could be prevented.
The regulations and regulators must be paid for with taxes
It is a shame that people pay the taxes because that DOES support regulation and that DOES prevent it from happening. As a result more people are alive (which is good), but there are loads of food producers that don't create healthy food and are slowly killing everyone (which is bad, and outweighs the good of those few still being alive by several magnitudes). If we stopped supporting the regulation, we could get rid of the bad actors because they would no longer be protected from their small, agile, and often healthier competitors. Free the market, and you end up improving the world. Regulate it, and you make it more fragile. Speaking of which, I just read and enjoyed Nassim Tableb's "Antifragile: Things That Gain From Disorder." I recommend it! You have the be the most ignorant person I've ever seen. Please get some STATISTICS. Without those regulations that your anarchy mind finds annoying, half of us would be dead from disease, crime, etc etc. GROW UP. Without the regulations that our "anarchy minds find annoying", at best 170,000,000 innocent civilians would have died natural deaths in the 20th century instead of being "regulated" to death by their own governments, according to researchers.
So all you crazy anarchists are living in your own deluded reality. Without the government, this world(or country, USA) would be in total Chaos. Think before you guys make stupid comments like Ive seen in this thread.I am no anarchist, but the idea that we need government to do all of the stuff you list is simply not true. There are private buildings, roads, hospitals, schools, soldiers, health insurance, employment insurance and so on.
Just so you know, the reason there are public schools, is because Companies wouldnt support many schools simply because they have no way to earn substantial income with them, thats why the number of private schools is extremely extremely extremely small compared to the number of public schools in existence, same for insurance, military, building of roads, and hospitals, etc etc.
Governments offer the things that companies don't. Learn economics, without the government, we would lack in almost every aspect of life, there would be no healthcare, no public schools, no public transportation, no roads/highways, no hospitals, no pensions etc etc etc. Please learn these basic things, I think the real reason there are so many "anarchists" on this forum is because they are ignorant and/or uneducated.
You anarchists sound dumber by the day... |
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It's not just important to me. It's the number one concern.
Bitcoin is hardly anonymous in itself... |
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Banned for being online?!
Banned for zebra armpit. |
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If a producer of food were to not adhere to food safety rules then consumers could potentially die. This would likely result in the producer going out of business. With regulations this could be prevented.
The regulations and regulators must be paid for with taxes
It is a shame that people pay the taxes because that DOES support regulation and that DOES prevent it from happening. As a result more people are alive (which is good), but there are loads of food producers that don't create healthy food and are slowly killing everyone (which is bad, and outweighs the good of those few still being alive by several magnitudes). If we stopped supporting the regulation, we could get rid of the bad actors because they would no longer be protected from their small, agile, and often healthier competitors. Free the market, and you end up improving the world. Regulate it, and you make it more fragile. Speaking of which, I just read and enjoyed Nassim Tableb's "Antifragile: Things That Gain From Disorder." I recommend it! You have the be the most ignorant person I've ever seen. Please get some STATISTICS. Without those regulations that your anarchy mind finds annoying, half of us would be dead from disease, crime, etc etc. GROW UP. Without the regulations that our "anarchy minds find annoying", at best 170,000,000 innocent civilians would have died natural deaths in the 20th century instead of being "regulated" to death by their own governments, according to researchers.
So all you crazy anarchists are living in your own deluded reality. Without the government, this world(or country, USA) would be in total Chaos. Think before you guys make stupid comments like Ive seen in this thread. |
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