Hi guys! I participated on the presale some months ago when 1Eth was worth 15.000 DATG which I got already in MEW since months. Now I read things have changed and 1 ETH will be worth 25.000: "After discussion with our community we think the best approach is to change the ETH to DAT rate. Any contributors that already participated in the Datum Presale will receive increased amounts of DAT accordingly. The adjusted rate and hard cap will be as follows: Total DAT Supply: 3,000,000,000 DAT sold in Token Sale: 1,530,000,000 Rate: 1 ETH = 25,000 DAT Hard Cap = 61,200 ETH" https://blog.datum.org/datum-update-98f4b7dffd3fWill we get the new amount automatically to our address?Also will the bonus be credited to these new amounts? Would like some clarification for this. Thank you! "Any contributors that already participated in the Datum Presale will receive increased amounts of DAT accordingly." It appears that you will have with the better ratio. But about bonuses, i have no idea. Cool, very glad I invested in the presales! I kinda hope the price drops after the initial listing so I can buy even more, datum is operating in one of the fastest growing markets in the world. Out of curiosity, when can we expect to see the extra coins in our wallet? |
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The price is abnormally low, it is 30% of ICO price?  AFAIK, the bounty campaign is not distributing any coin, so it is not their dumping on the market. Only panic sellers on the exchanges for fiat money. maybe the price of btc is up and many of altcoin is down its better to hold maybe someday the price is up. hoped Many people are selling their 30% bonusses for a quick buck, they'll be sorry in 6 months when CAG reaches 5$ |
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this project is a total scam. if you are looking at buying in beware, will go to 1 satoshi. do your research, Golem is the only real supercomputer project.
I've been following this project for a while and haven't invested yet. Why do you think it's scam? What is your claim? It would be better to learn your opinion to clarify it. Don't listen to him, he's shilling his golem bag and probably trying to lower the sonm price by FUD'ing so he can buy in at a better rate. All evidence points to Sonm blowing up in a matter of months, by august 2018 Sonm could be steady at 1 or 2$ |
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Hi.
I put price to my genesis address and I've realized that my ARTE coins have disappeared from the Tokens list, it shows now 0 and if I want to check the available balance it shows also 0, is this an expected behavior? what If I change my mind, can I cancel the sell?
Thanks!
Did only your token disappear? the amount disappeared.. token showed in MEW went to 0, if I check availablebanceof by following the tutorial I get 0, before I put the price to the gen address, it showed the minned ARTE😐 Are you the Genesis Address in this transaction here? (That's the only Genesis Address sale I found) https://etherscan.io/tx/0x266a839daf733d686ad6bb36975b839f83b41b49eae43949125ac0ba32a2cdd4It seems you set the price to your address of 10 gwei and someone saw it and bought it. Was that by mistake? I don't think he sold his address for 0.00000001 ETH on purpose :/ that's a bummer dude |
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Hi.
I put price to my genesis address and I've realized that my ARTE coins have disappeared from the Tokens list, it shows now 0 and if I want to check the available balance it shows also 0, is this an expected behavior? what If I change my mind, can I cancel the sell?
Thanks!
Did only your token disappear? the amount disappeared.. token showed in MEW went to 0, if I check availablebanceof by following the tutorial I get 0, before I put the price to the gen address, it showed the minned ARTE😐 Did you per chance enter the amount of ether you'd like as the amount of wei? A friend of mine almost did that by accident. Someone could've bought it from you. It might be possible you clicked a phishing link and it got stolen, check out your recent transactions on etherscan or something |
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when can exchange the address? and i hope it realize fast!
what do you mean exchange the address? you already got your genesis address and you can sell it now. if you waiting for exchange then you should prepare the arte is ready to transfer I hoped that we will be able to sell a Genesis Address right on the Artemine website, but it doesn't look so. Now I'm thinking about how we can do this, any idea? I don't mean the technical part from the Howto's, maybe a sales-thread? the thread can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2308395In a few months you'll be able to buy and sell genesis addresses on their own platform Thanks MiBambino, I've missed that information, that's what i was looking for. Has anybody already sold his genesis address there? No problem man! I don't think so, prices are far too high honestly given the FUD about minereum and artemine, plus artemine really doesn't have a purpose yet |
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Guys tell me please, what moron writes the same messages on each page?
there are a lot of them, usually newbies. I also post a lot but thats because a lot of my crypto income comes from bounties, and my job is so fucking boring all I do all day is browse bitcointalk lol |
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1995 ARTE Genesis Address for 1.725 ETH. That's only $0.25 per ARTE!
0x3f1Eb3A18C44ec017B10e82c168443036780D4ba
Come on! Daddy needs a new pair of shoes!!
true, but you gotta factor in the 63 years it takes to mine them all. I personally think Artemine could be worth 10$ if they give it a purpose, like have us participate in the lottery with arte, or pay for listing and transaction fees in arte if they'd create their own exchange with coins built in the mne token creation service. That means in 1 year with a 10.000 artemine address you mine about 180 of them, which is about 1800$, which is about 6 eth right now. That's what I hope to sell my address for, like a business you buy for 1 years revenue. Someone bought your address? Oh sorry no I put it up for sale for 6 ETH, I edited it |
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Well i recently picked up about 60,000 cag at 0.0006ETH. I'm surprised it's gotten this low. Seems like a decent project.
ICO price was at 0.002ETH so I thought 0.0006ETH seems like a good price/buy point. I can't imagine it going any lower lol
Anyhow their app/product comes out in December so things should be picking up soon.
You're gonna be fucking rich dude the average cryptobank today performs at a few dollars currently, but during the alt sunny period they got over 7$ on average |
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Too much presale discounts will be bad for main sale investors.
Look at the other projects. In many of them it worked like that, and it worked good!! What are you talking about? In which cases presale discounts have worked good for main sale investors? I know of none, honestly. Doesn't matter really, hodl the coins you have and buy the dips when they come, no doubt in my mind datum will drop at least 40% after the listing but that'll be a great place to buy, I can easily see this coin reach 1$ in 1 year |
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SONM + NEM SONM + ATLANT SONM Moon next year!!!  I know about a possible collab between Nem and Atlant, but I've heared nothing about Sonm and Atlant. Care to share a link or tweet? |
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1995 ARTE Genesis Address for 1.725 ETH. That's only $0.25 per ARTE!
0x3f1Eb3A18C44ec017B10e82c168443036780D4ba
Come on! Daddy needs a new pair of shoes!!
true, but you gotta factor in the 63 years it takes to mine them all. I personally think Artemine could be worth 10$ if they give it a purpose, like have us participate in the lottery with arte, or pay for listing and transaction fees in arte if they'd create their own exchange with coins built in the mne token creation service. That means in 1 year with a 10.000 artemine address you mine about 180 of them, which is about 1800$, which is about 6 eth right now. That's what I sold my address for, like a business you buy for 1 years revenue. |
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when can exchange the address? and i hope it realize fast!
what do you mean exchange the address? you already got your genesis address and you can sell it now. if you waiting for exchange then you should prepare the arte is ready to transfer I hoped that we will be able to sell a Genesis Address right on the Artemine website, but it doesn't look so. Now I'm thinking about how we can do this, any idea? I don't mean the technical part from the Howto's, maybe a sales-thread? the thread can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2308395In a few months you'll be able to buy and sell genesis addresses on their own platform |
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So price is about 60-70 cents for know, who can tell me, is artemine already started mining tokens or it will be released in future time?
and why on coinmarketcap total supply is 1200000 tokens, i thought developer burned all ico minereum tokens, right?
hope that minereum wont die too fast and will live with current price atleast till the end of the year:/
Artemine is mining right now, but you can only sell the coins on etherdelta which isnt the best website honestly. CMC isn't quite accurate, plus I think they get their info straight from exchanges and the token burning happened on the minereum token creation service |
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Too much presale discounts will be bad for main sale investors.
why do you think so? it might attract other investors imo Well, he got a point. When there is a huge bonus, the ones who invested in the pre-sale tend to dump their tokens when they can get some profit which drives the price down below the ICO price. So if you look at the price as an investor of the main ICO you will ask yourself, why you paid the ICO price and not bought off an exchange. In simple terms it averages the price of the tokens down. Any higher price comes from speculation on future value or a deflationary mechanism in the token. I've got many friends who are waiting for the initial dump after listing because they know I bought with a 50% bonus, and I can't blame them. Then again, I'll be accumulating as well at those low prices |
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WHY IS PRE ICO 0.5 ETH WORTH TODAY ONLY 0.18 ETH
that's a misinterpretation of the facts. People are selling their bonusses on etherdelta at ridiculous prices because its basically free money. Once CAG gets listed on a real exchange, price will be around 1$ at least, probably going to around 10 dollars by Q2 of 2018 The bounties were not paid yet, so it's ICO investors who sell on EtherDelta. If I remember correctly max bonus was 30%, so 0.002 * 0.7 = 0.0014 was price for them. Now on ED you can buy for 0.0007 so 50% off even with bonus. When bounties will be paid expect it even cheaper, for some period of time. But this happens to most of recent ICO, that's how unregulated market behaves. Yeah that's really gonna drive prices down, but really what can you do? Stupid people will keep making stupid decisions for the quick bucks, they prefer 500$ now over 5000$ in 3 months, which is the exact reason why so many people stay poor actually. |
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what will be the incentive of companies to trust the source of computing power over already existing companies who comply with laws? Is there more than a financial incentive alone?
It will be a lot cheaper and faster to work with Sonms fog computing, just like it'll be a lot cheaper to work with blockchain in general instead of email/banks/... |
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Do you guys sell if it's going 300% to buy again at the old price? These hype pumps are usually temporary
No, because it triggers tax and I want to be able to actually use the profits that I make from crypto some day. Tax rates are usually significantly lower after a one year holding period and if you hold you don't have to pay taxes until you sell. This includes trading alts for Bitcoin or vice versa. Would it only trigger tax if you withdrew the money in to your bank or even if you were to let the funds (fiat or otherwise) sit on the exchange? It triggers tax immediately when you trade, no matter if you keep your BTC, alt or cash in an exchange. Of course, nobody will be able to tell that you've sold alts for Bitcoin or the other way around if you're on an exchange without KYC. But if you end up having to prove your trades for tax filings later on, you'll have a gaping hole in your data that will trigger massive fines at best and legal prosecution for tax evasion at worst. Most people ignore this, so the very few who are smart enough to make large profits will find a lot of people who will find themselves out of luck due to their lack of foresight when it comes to taxation. Crypto profits are useless if you can't use them to buy Lambos or houses without going to jail.  it's not like that everywhere. I live in Belgium and we don't have capital gains tax or speculation tax anymore; as long as I don't cash out too much OR if I don't reinvest my earnings I won't get into too much trouble. Very interesting. What does "too much" mean though? And can you never re-invest your earnings or how does this work? I know some countries have very low or no tax on assets that were held for about a year or longer and usually any trade triggers tax and/or resets the holding period. But so far I've never heard of limits on cashing out profits. The bank doesn't really check up on transactions over a certain amount, I believe its 2500 euros a month, which is about 3000 dollars. I'd like to reinvest in property, but I'm considering foreign investment projects ebcause the belgian government seems to be actively pushing away investors by raising property taxes |
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I hope team is reading this. I think they should try Kucoin and Gate.io. This two exchanges seem very ambitions and soon volume will be there. Already other big coins listed.
I'm sure they're talking to every single possible exchange out there, even the smallest ones. Kucoin would be great though, I think it's gonna grow pretty quickly |
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maybe at this moment your focus is on artemine but don't left MNE project, just because of this project because Arte is a child from MNE, just run both project and make MNE great again dev ARTE dev is not MNE dev, this has been said a lot of times. He mentioned different teams will focus on different coins, but it is most definitely the same Dev. Artemine is referred to as Minereum V2.0. Not really sure where you're getting your information from... You're both right, I think they're sister companies who work together but are managed/operated/developed by different teams |
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