Everything's too vague and everything's too changeable. We've already seen how rapidly miners switched between BTC and BCH and the latter is a joke chain. If this fork actually does happen it'll be far more disruptive and confusing with potential phases where no one knows which chain is 'leading'.

If I was an NYA signee, especially one with weight, I'd declare it a partial success but the hard fork part a failure which it is by now.

I just emptied my Xapo balance The fee was the equivalent of $2.5 which is far, far more than it needs to be. However services like this are really stuck between a rock and a hard place. Many users are too stupid, others are too advanced and often the service is marooned somewhere in the middle trying to please everyone and failing everyone.

I'd prefer it if they gave the option for fee control along with a huge button to press excluding you from ever whining to them about it. As long as you voluntarily take the responsibility it's no skin off their nose and their users will be happier.

This person must face immediate and absolute liquidation.

Exactly. After August 1st they are now two distinct systems and you need different systems to interact with them.

You can do anything with your Bitcoin and the Bitcoin Cash will stay in the old address until you introduce it into a wallet connected to the Bitcoin Cash network.

Because Bitcoin Cash wallets are newer and less trusted, the safest thing to do is move your Bitcoin out of the same address before you show the private keys to a Bitcoin Cash wallet.

Once the Bitcoin is moved from that address on the Bitcoin network, the Bitcoin Cash network doesn't see it. It only sees the original address that hasn't moved since August 1st.

Electron Cash only reads the Bitcoin Cash network. It doesn't know or care where your Bitcoin has gone. That's the nature of a fork.

You're transferring out of your old wallet on the Bitcoin network first, not Bitcoin Cash.

And yes, if you had any Bitcoin in any wallet at the right time on August 1st there will be BCC ready to spend now.

Right now both coins are still in the same address with the same balance and it's been like that since August 1st.

Your current wallet will be connected to the Bitcoin network, not the Bitcoin Cash network.

Your private key or seed will be valid on both networks, but you'd need a Bitcoin Cash wallet to access the Bitcoin Cash part.

What you need to do is move the Bitcoin first into a new Bitcoin wallet that you control with new private keys or a seed.  Most people regard six BTC confirmations as more than enough and that should take about an hour.

Once your Bitcoin is safely moved, it's now untouchable and there's zero risk of it being lost to the Bitcoin Cash network.

You will still have access to your Bitcoin Cash with your old seed which is the same balance and address as your Bitcoin was on August 1st as it hasn't moved on that network yet.

Import that seed into a Bitcoin Cash wallet such as this - https://electroncash.org and as long as it's connected to the Bitcoin Cash network it'll be there waiting for you.

The Bitcoin is obviously the most valuable bit so wait until they're safely sent into the new wallet with multiple confirmations before you get to work on the BCC. Is this a paper wallet?

Don't do a single other thing until the BTC is out of the wallet and into a new properly generated one.

It's really not very hard.

1 - create a new paper wallet. Test it. Send the rest of your Bitcoin there by using the cold storage function of Mycelium.

2 - now all you're left with is your BCC/BCH in your old wallet.

Create a QR code from your old private key. Download Coinomi, add the Bitcoin Cash wallet and sweep the private key into it using the QR code.

You'd be trusting an unknown third party to hand over your money, and all they'd be doing is using an exchange to do it which is yet another unknown third party with their profit on top.

Two unknown third parties in a row doesn't sound like a very good idea to me. I've read of services like this in the past. They came and went pretty rapidly. Sell your own coins and give them conventional money unless your landperson would directly accept BTC. It's not worth risking the roof over your head for.

The wholesale description of Africa as a place where everyone is sat in the dark after a long day's civil war is a silly one. There are plenty of prosperous pockets.

There's no mining as far as I know which means any coins sold there have to come from somewhere else. As there's little or no conventional banking, and almost no international banking, there's no way for non Africans to sell to them apart from the occasional visitor selling for cash.

Without mining or incomers selling the only other option is Africans working for Bitcoin. I presume there are a few but in the whole world there aren't very many people working for BTC.

Presumably you still have your gambling account? I assume most sites offer their players a CSV or whatever that's downloadable of all their bets. Download it and show it to the HMRC along with a record of your matching BTC transactions and subsequent sales if they're not mixed.

You haven't done anything wrong and the tools to prove it should be accessible.

Is there anyone left who gives a shit what Russia thinks or does any more?

There'll be someone along tomorrow telling us that Putin will be put on the blockchain next week.

Compared to China they're really not very good at coaxing Bitcoin's penis out of its knickers only to spurn it again.

If you want to withdraw to a Visa card then you don't need an exchange.

Get a Bitcoin debit card like the one supplied by Xapo and you can deposit Bitcoin to it and withdraw in EUR. Xapo do the exchange for you.

You can either spend EUR directly anywhere that takes Visa or withdraw it in cash.

I wonder who's informing Xapo's decisions. 'Accumulated difficulty' is a borderline meaningless phrase and once again it's deferring to miners when they should be kissing our arses. I think this is the last roll of the dice for miners to cast themselves as authority figures. It's sad that they were ever permitted to get close to that status.

And as for the original point, if enough people want more than 21 million then they should have them. I really, really can't imagine the circumstances where that's desired though.

Do articles like these even need an author any more? You can take some ingredients from previous articles, mix them up a bit and come out with a new one every day of the year.

What almost all of the tracts of this nature leave out is the technological discovery aspect. It's not just a new version of an old market. It's a completely new thing. That potentially nullifies all expected market behaviour because there's never been anything like it before.

When all humans have investigated it and come up with their opinion on it, that's when you can throw the usual clapped out predictions around. Until then - fuck off.

BCH spoilt people. They saw what happened to those who had coins in exchanges - 0.4 BTC and more per shitcoin.

There's still plenty of time between now and this supposed fork. I think the most likely scenario is that it won't happen at all. Second most likely is that it'll emerge as an alt with replay detection that'll die very rapidly.

Apparently half the households in all America are signed up to Amazon Prime. So let's conservatively assume 200 million people in the US alone buy from Amazon.

10,000 people is just a little bit fewer than that figure. They don't give a shit about crypto. They don't need to give a shit. Almost all merchant adoption has been tiny or a failure. At this stage in its life it isn't what Bitcoin is for.

I wouldn't bother myself.

If you don't like paying fees, your employer certainly won't like paying the type of premium somewhere like Argentina attracts either. Your work paid in BTC will end up costing him a lot more. He'll probably look to employ someone who costs less.

Sometimes it's better not to get the rest of the world to bend to your Bitcoin will.

What ones can you think of? I don't mean price stuff, all of them will arrive at some point, I mean use cases and predictions about Bitcoin in general.

One of the most interesting ones is when the first rumblings of forks turned up with Bitcoin XT or whatever it was. It was declared that it would be an altcoin here and elsewhere to much uproar. When it finally did come to life as BCH it was indeed an alt. And now S2X is slowly being declared an alt too by the exchanges themselves.

That's an interesting idea and conceivable, but most people would be too stupid and unimaginative to explore the fullest potential.

The advent of the next stage of techiness is going to create new classes of the successful and hopeless divs. A lot of people will be left behind.