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10341  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: July 12, 2020, 01:56:05 PM
1. Manchester City 30%
2. Bayern 22%
3. PSG 14%
4. Barcelona 8%
5. RB Leipzig 8%
6. Atletico Madrid 7%
7. Atalanta 5%
8. Real Madrid 2%
9. Juventus 2%
10. Lyon, Napoli, Chelsea less than 1%

The figures are odd. I would never bet on Atalanta or Leipzig winning the Champions League before Real Madrid or Juventus. Also the probability for Manchester City is much too high. The team is worse than the last years when they always failed in the Champions League. Same to Bayern, even though I think Bayern has the best chances this year. It is the only team in the list that has convinced me the most so far.

The odds are factor of Atlanta ro Leipzig's chances of advancing to the next round, the both have greater chances of making it to the next round ahead of Madrid, and Madrid having a greater odds would decrease Man City's odds since only one of them would advance (with Ciy in pole position) you can't win the competition if you've been eliminated hence, the Real Madrid odds value are justified, imo. However, I think Real Madrid might stun Man City.
Even the percentage of Real Madrid is lower than Atletico Madrid and I'm also not sure about that percentage especially about RB Leipzig, Atletico Madrid and Atalanta, but if it's only about Real Madrid and Man City I feel clear, Man City certainly has a greater chance and also, Bayern remain the favorite I think and that percentage should only have a gap closer because both of them have very good chances this season.
10342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: July 04, 2020, 07:27:17 PM
So tired to see Betis losing and this is because of Fekir,as in my opinion, he is to cocky and he wants the ball everytime and everytime he loses a tempo when he could easily find a team mate to give the ball but he prefers to make a dribble or do a bicycle ...so I hope Betis will sell him sooner. Besides this , I think Valencia will manage to win tonight or it's all over for them to catch a spot for europeans cup.
I don't think the draw did look bad either because Betis wasn't good enough when playing away and also, I'm personally sure Valencia won't win this match because Granada itself has the same mission to hunt for 3 points so they still have the chance to become a promotion team to Europa league because they both have the same points and also their performance is not good enough after a comeback.
10343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: July 04, 2020, 03:42:06 PM
Glad to know that Manchester United can win with many goals like this and with the rest of the match with the opponents they will face later, at least I'm also sure that MU will be able to consistently get 3 points so that it might end the season by being ranked third, at least Ole proves success to recover Manchester United.
10344  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: July 02, 2020, 08:17:17 PM
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My betslip for today although Im not sure about Tottenham  Tongue

Both of them lost because Manchester City was very on fire in this match or maybe Liverpool no longer chase to win because they have become champions.
Tottenham lost 3-1 and Liverpool lost 3-0 at half time it was a shocking result. Sad
10345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think players can play properly against a recovered Covid-19 opponent? on: July 02, 2020, 06:25:59 PM
The presence or absence of Covid-19, players in a match will not always have the mood, fitness, enthusiasm, performance or whatever it will be the same every time the match and therefore also at least our predictions will not always be right either. So I personally have believed for a long time about the factors of players that will not always be the same in every game and with the existence of Covid-19 indeed, this will greatly affect because there are even other factors that make players unable to play well consistently is about the absence spectator, it is also a factor for players to be difficult to be consistent in the match and no wonder too, at least there are also a number of different teams playing or their performance is declining playing in this Covid-19 situation.
10346  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: July 01, 2020, 08:01:19 PM
I'm sure Leicester will continue to decline or maybe will really come out of the top five, there are no significant developments with performance after returning from the break due to lockdown. Btw, I'm a little surprised at the final results for Arsenal and Newcastle's win because I don't think there will be a big win for them and I am very sorry to change bets for doubting Newcastle, lol.
10347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best welcome offer for you? on: July 01, 2020, 06:37:05 PM
I think the best bonus is 200% deposit bonus for the first three deposits, or a free bet in a any sportsbook with a wagering condition. That will be a good offer for me. Free bonuses without any strings attached only lead to abuse!

Too smart conditions. Usually the first deposit bonus is the largest, and all subsequent ones are reduced in proportion to it. Even if you imagine that the casino will give a bonus, I’m sure the conditions will not be the easiest and it will take a long time to win back even the first deposit.
Casinos are not interested in what players earn, casinos are interested in their own earnings. In addition, the casino pays bonuses from its own treasury, so it makes no sense to make conditions that will be beneficial for the players but will not be beneficial for the casino, this will lead to losses.
Right, but there is nothing wrong either because he has expressed his wishes and I think that is something natural when someone asks about a welcome offer he wants. That's all about the promotion strategy, but when a clever player makes use of the bonuses he gets then of course it will be good for him, because the requirements of the bonus offered are also not always easy and at least difficult to achieve.
10348  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why has not any government stopped Bitcoin? on: July 01, 2020, 05:02:16 PM
Is that a reality? Because even bitcoin is legal in many countries and of course the government will not stop bitcoin because what will happen is an increase in the actual use of bitcoin, at least bitcoin will be a great opportunity in the future to be used in terms of payments and other transactions because with digital transactions this is a solution to cut off the spread of any virus on this earth.
10349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will a BTC bull market begin in July? on: July 01, 2020, 03:18:52 PM
Actually we can not figure out when the bull run will start cos the pandemic has deeply meltdown the world's economy. Due to that, there are no much influx of money into the cryptosphere that would have help to skyrocket the bull run. Am expecting this years bull run to take effect by next year April, when businesses and company's must have been operating fully without the lockdown.
 As it stands now, bitcoin price will be fluctuating around $8k - $10k until the pandemic is over

next year april ? that means the pandemic will be gone by that time ? thats too long  but that could be right because they say the real cure will only be released by next year  . 

cryptos were indemand during these season and people still have money because government gave something and jobs arent totally shut down but these money is i think not enough to trigger the bull run but this is only good for recovery and some small increase   .
Not every country gave out palliative to her citizens. Revised is the case in my own country. Businesses and Job's are still on lockdown due to the outrageous increase of the covid19 patients.
Everybody is stock up with nothing at their different homes. Hunger is the only thing killing people more than the covid19.
Anyway, there's no guarantee that the vaccine will actually be released next year and we don't really know the exact time when the world will be free of this corona outbreak. But regarding the analysis of the market which might be bullish at the beginning of the third quarter, I'm personally not sure because even today the market is still not strong and tends to continue to weaken and the recovery that occurs is not enough to make the pump even higher.
10350  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade and make a profit in a Volatile market on: July 01, 2020, 07:15:18 AM
Day trading is not an effort that you can do while doing other activities.
And day trading is like to gambling. You can lose it all in a short time
Indeed its not easy as it seems and not suited for traders who cant monitor the market often due to their other job or things to attend to. If you cant spend lots of time as a day trader then this might not going to work.

I believe that the best investment is made by considering the long-term goals that we want to achieve.
When we invest, the goal is not to make a lot of money in a short time, but to protect and grow money in stages
In order to gain something when you invest, its best to have plan and think whats best strategy for long term gains. I prefer to be a holder and have a set price when to take profit, in this way I dont need to rush things and just have patience to be able to earn.
Basically it is required for us to be more patient, because trading and investment is not the way for you to get rich quickly and or get profit quickly because even day trading is also not as easy as imagined because volatile markets will still be difficult for you to get good profit every day.
10351  Economy / Economics / Re: Economy after COVID-19 on: June 30, 2020, 11:36:07 PM
It is impossible for the economy after COVID19 to remain the same, I am sure the economy will gradually begin to recover. Starting with
the opening some shops and offices, from here people will start working and earning income. This can make the economy run again, and
will slowly recover. Related to the use of paper money will be increasingly reduced because it is considered less safe, can spread the virus.
Then people will start to move to use digital currency, the use of cryptocurrency should also increase.
These efforts will always be done because the government will not just be silent and the government will certainly always try to make many new policies to restore the country's economy. Any illness, crisis and or disaster will certainly occur in the world and will also be overcome even though it takes a lot of time to recover. So related to this problem, every individual will also force themselves to survive in this difficult economic situation, but with the help and donations made at least it will be an effort to ease their burden.
10352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC bottom is yet to come??? on: June 30, 2020, 10:32:06 PM
The halving bitcoin event has passed and your prediction has been proven not to occur at that time and although next year will be a year of bull run but I'm not sure there will be events for such a deep decline to below 5k, but if it becomes the last decline before bullish at least just touch the bottom at around 7k or maybe it won't happen at all.
10353  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What was your experience trading cryptocurrency? on: June 30, 2020, 09:20:03 PM
My first experience wasn't easy and so successful, I have to admit that. But that was years ago, I didn't know much about trading and felt kind of lost in crypto market. With time I learned a lot, especialy on my own mistakes and now I'm much more related and have positive opinion about trading. Of course, I faced losses too and sometimes that wasn't easy to overcome but gained experience helped me a lot.
So clearly I guess, in trading not always they will continue to get success easily so the loss in trading becomes something natural to happen and even though you already have experience but still, sometimes avoiding losses is difficult and therefore first or not experience in trading will certainly pass the loss but with a different situation.
10354  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: FOMO In Crypto; How to identify It on: June 30, 2020, 08:57:12 PM
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That is why I don't follow hypes nor to listen to trading signals. What actually they are doing is to create a market drama that will catch the attention.

I somehow disagree with your statement here considering the fact that there are very very few channels that give you the correct trading signals (some don't even give signals but insights) and the rest are just to create chaos in the markets while they just make money selling on their followers' money. Whatever has been in the making these days is adding more FOMO kinda situation nowadays and people literally don't care giving a damn to researching about what they're going to invest in, but they just see something moving and FOMO in. It's not something bad to FOMO in but the time to get out from that coin is what matters the most.
But basically it's just the same as producing panic buying because it is the scenario about the drama that keeps more people out of control and FOMO continues to increase. No wonder when they become FOMO because when prices are high they only think it will generate profits, because at the same time they are not aware of the decline that will surely occur in this crypto market when they have reached high prices.
10355  Economy / Economics / Re: world war 3 is coming ...do to coronavirus / economy ... on: June 28, 2020, 07:12:09 PM
Sooner or later it will break out and war will inevitably occur and moreover, with this pandemic at least it will make them blame each other which of course the heated situation will continue to be created. There are many problems that actually cannot be solved, but one thing that will at least take them for a moment to peace is about economic stability which I think will also be difficult to realize evenly.
10356  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Without banks, is it possible to move physical currencies to Crypto? on: June 28, 2020, 06:15:29 PM
It's possible and still can be done, if you have friends then that can also be the main solution I guess, because even if you use any of the services available at least it will go through the bank even if it's done digitally. So, when you have a friend who holds crypto, you can get it by exchanging it for physical money and I think it will also be difficult if the transaction is large.
10357  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: "NEW NORMAL" Betting on: June 28, 2020, 04:52:59 PM

Therefore, most likely, athletes won't be harmed by this virus,or it won't affect their exercise routine even If they got inflicted.
I remember, Donovan Mitchell from the NBA told the reporters after tested positive for Covid-19, that he feels nothing and is able to play in a seven game series.

That's only for him, but it doesn't mean that all players can do what he says.
When a player has the virus, he might not feel its effect but he is a carrier which pose risk to his teammates and people around him, that's why tests are necessary and measures after the test has to be followed so once the NBA resume, all players in the floor are free from the virus.
Right, we can not underestimate this coronavirus because even if an infected person still feels good or stable health but this infected person should not be in the crowd, because the virus is definitely transmitted to others. Each individual also has a different medical history and even though an athlete has a healthy lifestyle but that still does not guarantee they will be spared or safe from spreading the virus, health protocols in the new normal era are very important to apply in any sport.
10358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: June 28, 2020, 03:51:02 PM
I have gone 2-1 win by Watford this match. Have lost some good amounts before covid placing against Watford. They played some good matches before Covid19, hope this time they will be able to play as they did.
I'm personally not sure, but maybe your prediction will be right but Southampton made a quick goal this time and it will certainly be a very tough match for Watford, I personally still believe the match will end in a draw.
10359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: June 27, 2020, 10:58:27 PM
Barcelona is really unlucky, the draw they get will be put to good use by Madrid...
Barcelona is creating the chance for Madrid to win the title. Losing point against Sevilla and Celta Vigo tonight is totally benefit for Madrid. Madrid has the option to have point difference too. On a side note, Barca have to face Atletico Madrid on next match  Cheesy That will be another big challenge for Barca. On the other hand, Madrid has the chance to win almost all the. next matches.
Yes, that's right. From the start of the season at least I predicted that Madrid would win this season and the draw was actually not surprising to me, because Barcelona in this season was not so good when playing away despite his opponents Celta Vigo who are among the lowest ranked teams in the standings.
10360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never Before Experience On Gambling...!!!! Stay Safe. on: June 27, 2020, 08:20:11 PM
Rich players also have a problem. For an ordinary person to worry about their bet it is enough to put a small amount of money. Big players to experience the excitement of making big bets in a gambling game. On the Internet, you can find many stories of millions losing poker games in one night.
If a person does not have the ability to control himself, then he can lose all his money, no matter how much he has. This is a little more difficult for a rich person to do.
Gambling is a place that must be used for fun for anyone regardless of their economic status. But because betting instruments involve money, all players will have the opportunity to get money as a bonus from winning.
I think rich people also have a bigger problem with gambling if they cant control their desire to continue betting without end. Usually they are much more excited if the amount of bets they play is large. This will be a big problem because in gambling a person cant force himself to bet if they do not want to go bankrupt and fall into poverty. There are many cases of someone who used to be rich but fell poor because of gambling.
Therefore, gambling players who are experienced or not, must still be on the safe side by means of good self-control, because the problem of gambling is basically the same about greed and cannot control themselves and yes, those who are rich and poor or those who experienced or not, they remain dangerous in gambling if they cannot realize the factors that will ultimately make them bankrupt just because of gambling.
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