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1041  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 21, 2014, 08:50:35 PM
I mailed one of my bitfury boards back to them, at the 355 Lancaster address, and it was returned within a week.  hopefully you'll have the same quick turn around time on your bad parts.

Ok... worth a shot.  They are broken anyway!

Did you ship them at your own expense?

Did you leave a note with the package?
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEX :: Nxt Reimagined - Industrial Strength - Imagine Fairness! on: April 21, 2014, 02:26:24 PM
Tech Crunch has an interesting article on 'Side Chains'.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/19/bitcoin-2-0-unleash-the-sidechains/

Watch the NEX space to see some development in this space.
1043  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 20, 2014, 12:28:45 AM
Wait!  Are you saying that you will be providing technical support for AMT units?

Has AMT contracted you to provide technical support?  Are you also doing re-work on damaged boards?

Will you provide help on missing parts?  I got a missing back plane.

My assistance to customers, will be technical support. (Though limited by several things.)

I am not personally reworking the boards myself, just identifying the point of failures, and marking the components to be reworked.

If I can, I will try to assist with locating or obtaining missing parts. (Once I have settled-in. I just got out of the hospital a few days ago, and have to finalize the "informal contract", with Josh.)

So are we supposed to send you the bad boards?
1044  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 11:57:15 PM
Are you speaking on behalf of AMT, whats the story?

No, I am not speaking on behalf of AMT. I am simply parroting the obvious and giving personal opinions. AMT speaks for AMT. I am, for what it matters, assisting AMT on the technical side, through my informal contract of services. My duties, as I have stated, are related to locating and isolating faults in post-tested boards, for reworking. (Loss prevention and recovery. To reduce the overhead of potential losses, from under-performing or faulting components on the cards.) Thus, my desire to have knowledge of the specific issues, which are reported here, are of strong interest to me. This gives me a specific guidance for things to look for, to resolve. (Just as Microsoft had issues with PSU's and heat-sinks, post production and post testing. The cause of 90% of the RROD situations.)

Hope that clears a few things up.

Wait!  Are you saying that you will be providing technical support for AMT units?

Has AMT contracted you to provide technical support?  Are you also doing re-work on damaged boards?

Will you provide help on missing parts?  I got a missing back plane.
1045  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 11:54:11 PM
Its interesting to see how if this thread goes on track for a bit, the useless commentators show up again. They have less than nothing to contribute so I consider them trolls at this point. Loshia contribute something. You are an idiot who just takes perverse pleasure in seeing others misery. Otherwise you would be actually trying to help people out here instead of just going on and on about poserkos and all that nonsense and bad english you keep going on about. Contribute or GTFO troll. Goes for the rest of you who keep on talking about useless crap. I think the horse has been more than been beaten to death on the topic of AMT as a company. Those of us with issues with the hardware just want it working bottom line. If it can be done great, if AMT provides service great, if not EVERYONE here already knows their options and are adults. Having a group of trolls beating the drums of war just makes you look even more retarded. Seems like you have no life but to be on here and comment on this and take pleasure in the misery of others and lol indirecly saying I told you so. We fucking get it now go away and bother someone else.

Those of us with problems just want results and help to get our hardware working. ANd in this case there are a few people here willing to help. If you dont want to be apart of that and you have the ability to then you are useless if you just want to talk about poserko this and poserko that. We don't speak your language. But whatever it language its in you are clearly just talking stupid whether its bulgarian or english. Because its useless to everyone here at this point.

+1

Loshia... you are no help to AMT customers who have been screwed.  

The options are clear and simple:

(1) Join the class action lawsuit.
(2) Try to get the AMT hardware working.

In both options, customers are trying to get back their investment.

I am of course very disappointed with AMT,   however since I did get hardware (albeit not working yet), I am going to research what I can to get it hashing.   If of course it never does, then option (1) would be the only option.

Well since opiem2 seems to have some success,  then there may possibly some light at the end of this tunnel.
1046  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 11:38:12 PM

my boards work and have blue heatsinks, my friend tims has copper heatsinks/orange and his dont. i also noticed on my boards on bottom right (fan side) it says Rev 3.0A so not sure if that has anything to do with it either

Okay,  so far we have evidence that the boards with the blue heat sinks work.

Does anyone here have a board with orange heat sinks that work?

I checked the boards,  no difference between the orange and blue,  just the heatsinks are different.

Confirmed here, my boards are Rev 3.0A.

Well, still waiting for my backplane to be able to test out the boards.


Mine work just fine. I have blue ones and black ones. If by orange I assume you mean the copper ones? If so then yes I have those. And they are working just fine.


So, as I understand it, these boards should work assuming that there is adequate power?

AMT sent me a 1500w SilverStone power supply,  do you think that is adequate to drive 5 boards?

They have yet to ship me a back plane, but they promised an extended one and an additional board.   Do you think 1500w is sufficient or do you think I need another one?

Can you tell me what kind of board is attached to the raspberry pi?
1047  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
Need to rename this thread:  Official AMT Hobbyist and Craft Fair Thread - "Send us $3000 and we'll send you a fun electronics builder kit (tools not included)."

The "Kit option", was not intended to be produced. Tongue It was for those who felt they could not wait any-longer, and felt they could live with the incomplete units. (With the missing components, stated.)

However, there seems to be a little more "hobby", than expected. The new revisions of the boards and backplanes and PSU's, (which was what they did not want to wait for), are being shipped now. There is still an issue with post-tested boards, which I am sure a better testing setup will resolve. Once they know the source of the failures. Josh has informed me of these potential issues, as well as the forums. These "kits", should not be a representation of the "final product". (For those who have gotten the fully assembled units, with shipping damage, that is another issue.)

The short-falling of the chips themselves, and the original erred designs, given by the MFG, is not making this easy for anyone at the moment.

So is AMT saying that once they eventually get everything fixed they would ship working boards and MPP upgrades?
1048  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 01:35:02 PM

my boards work and have blue heatsinks, my friend tims has copper heatsinks/orange and his dont. i also noticed on my boards on bottom right (fan side) it says Rev 3.0A so not sure if that has anything to do with it either

Okay,  so far we have evidence that the boards with the blue heat sinks work.

Does anyone here have a board with orange heat sinks that work?

I checked the boards,  no difference between the orange and blue,  just the heatsinks are different.

Confirmed here, my boards are Rev 3.0A.

Well, still waiting for my backplane to be able to test out the boards.





1049  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 11:34:34 AM

"Bad boards", that is actually my job. I am sure I will see your board in the future.

I will be offering some technical advice in the future, as well as, (hopefully), some form of live support.

Interesting.  In lieu of a non-existent AMT technical support staff, can we send our bad boards to you for inspection?

Considering the high number of defective boards experience by customers and the negligence in packing the units,  it is highly likely that AMT did not test units prior to shipment or even worse was malicious and sent bad units knowing that these were not working.

The probability is very high right now that we will all be stuck with these non-working rigs.  Our only recourse to get a working rig is to ping Bitmine.ch for assistance and parts. 

1050  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 11:23:19 AM
I've got the two working boards up an running. I've been sick so after my PTSD class today I just came home and passed out. Didn't get a chance to call AMT.

I'll make that my job for Monday. Try to get in contact and get an RMA for the three non working boards.

I'll ask for that or a refund for 2/3 of the purchase price since I've only got 1/3 of the stated performance. I'd be happier to settle up with them the second way to be honest. That way I don't have to deal with thier bullshit anymore.

I'm just too worn to deal with it right now.

Curious,  I've seen two kinds of boards,  one with orange heat sinks and another with blue heat sinks.

Which ones are bad and which ones are good?
1051  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 11:18:26 AM
Anybody know a good way to remove the coincraft A1 chips from the board?

Maybe this stuff is worth at least the A1 chips on the board?  

Maybe we can get these guys in Virginia:  http://ntekcomputers.com/products/1ths-asic-bitcoin-miner-1000gh  to re-build our systems?

Heat guns can be found as cheap as $20, with spreading and focusing tips.

Here are some SMT tools and more info, if you are looking to expand your collection.
http://store.curiousinventor.com/guides/Surface_Mount_Soldering/Tools/

If you don't have a good heat-gun, with a temp-control and focusing-tip... There is an alternative way to rework or remove the components. (This is NOT an AMT recommended solution for anything. Use this information at your own risk, and voiding of any form of warranty.)

You can use a hot-plate and focus the heat with an aluminum or copper block. Use an old pot-holder as insulation, to focus the heat where you want it. You can also use a top-side fan, to ensure the stray heat does not loosen other components.
IRON as a hotplate. http://runawaybrainz.blogspot.com/2011/11/surface-mount-devices.html
SKILLET as a hotplate. https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/59
BURNER as a hotplate. http://jimlaurwilliams.org/wordpress/?p=2101

1: Cut a hole in the pot-holder, to fit the block of copper. (Just a tiny bit shy of the actual size, so it holds firmly to the block, as you push it through.)
2: Place the copper block and heat-shielded pot-holder on the hot-plate, and get it "up to temperature". (You can use another pot-holder to contain the heat, like a cover, until the temp is high enough to melt the low-temp SMT solder. I use a junk PCB, which I can just lay on the block. When it turns shiny, it is just about ready.)
3: Brace the board with cardboard, so it will stay as level as possible against the block of copper.
4: Use a piece of electric tape, looped so the sticky-side is outward, hung from a pencil or paper-clip.
5: Tap the tape-wand down onto the chip, while it is heating, to try and "grab" the chip, to lift it off the melted solder. (Do not hold the tape down, just tap it down and pull it up quickly, or it will melt the tape. If the chip is loose-enough, it will stick and lift up off the board. Otherwise it will remain, when you pull up the sticky "grabber".
6: Use copper desoldering braid, to clean-up the excess solder from the chip, (Do that fast, don't linger with that focused heat on the chip.)
7: Clean the tape-gunk with a fresh piece of tape... Tap and pull, tap and pull.
8: Then clean any heat-sink compound off the chip with alcohol.

NOTE: The epoxied heat-sink on the top of the chip should/may loosen with the focused heat. If not, then it would be safe to remain on the chip.

NOTE: This board may not be safe to rework in a reflow-oven. There may be secondary components that my melt, which were added after the reflow process. (Such as the cable connections. Which would have to be removed the old way, with copper braid and a standard temp-controlled solder-gun. Prior to reflow-work in an oven. Never use an oven you cook food in, as the boards will release toxins into the air, which will later contaminate food.) You can quickly remove all parts at once, in a reflow oven, with an insulated fiberglass catch-tray, suspending the board upside-down over it. All the parts will drop-off, except for a few smaller capacitors and resistors. A quick tap should liberate them from the boards.
http://www.freetronics.com/pages/surface-mount-soldering-with-a-toaster-oven#.U1I35PldVK0

I just realized that I have one of those light beam solder units,  maybe useful in selectively removing and replacing bad coincraft A1 chips.

Well that video you have in the link showed how simple it is to to remove a chip.

Can anyone find out the layout of the chips with what is detected in software?  That way we can selectively remove the bad ones?
1052  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 01:29:49 AM
Anybody know a good way to remove the coincraft A1 chips from the board?

Maybe this stuff is worth at least the A1 chips on the board? 

Maybe we can get these guys in Virginia:  http://ntekcomputers.com/products/1ths-asic-bitcoin-miner-1000gh  to re-build our systems?
1053  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 19, 2014, 01:17:32 AM

3 boards do no not work tested one by one  . I got 2 30 amp breakers I had a electrician Change it .  .. I took the 3 boards out and analyze them I don't see anything wrong with em maybe there's something I over looked . Or they just do not work . I gotta make some Roi on this 6 grand ugh these people are just a mess Should I just mail these boards back and label it with BAD BOARDS PLEASE RESEND ME OTHER ONES ? Has any one mailed in boards back . But AMT just ignores all my emails .... If by next week they do not respond I am going to small claims court in PA I hate the whole court system as they take forever to get your money back .

Has anyone been to the address where they shipped the Machined from ? the 355 Lancester ave one ?

None existent technical support.

If AMT can't pay people to answer the phone,  then how can one expect that they pay people to answer the phone and take technical questions?

Standard practice for returns is to ask for an RMA or a return shipping label.  

Honestly,  AMT can't even handle their shipping correctly.   I doubt they can handle returns correctly.

Even worse,  where's the trouble ticketing system?   It's bad enough that they don't handle emails correctly,  but how they hell are they handling all these technical support questions?  

I doubt they understand the enormity of the work they have in front of them.  

If they close shop however without refunds,  then they are guilty of wire fraud and are going to serve jail time.  

For reference:

Quote

Warranty: This unit’s system board has a
lifetime warranty from manufacture defect
or component failure.


Honestly, better for AMT to send a refund rather than support a lifetime warranty and the MPP.
1054  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 18, 2014, 09:40:51 PM
What sort of PSU are you using? And how many amps you got running on the circuit they on? It might be how they are hooked up too. There are a few reasons why that could be happening. Maybe those of us here on the forum can help.

It would be helpful if we did know if AMT tested the boards prior to shipment. 

The number of bad boards is indeed surprising.   However, it does explain why AMT and Bitmine.ch have trouble shipping.

At this stage of the game,  it appears that AMT knowingly ships without testing (or is aware that a board is bad).   The only motivation now seems to claim that they are shipping.  In the meantime, they leave almost every customer who received a unit in the dark as to how to make their system work.

To be honest,  just shipping the units isn't going to cut it.   AMT needs to provide technical support and needs to honor their MPP.   A non-working system has a hash rate of 0 THs and IMHO is tantamount to fraud if a refund is not provided.
1055  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 18, 2014, 09:34:38 PM
I've been emailing these guys once a day and I get crickets .  I got 3 boards out of 5 not running . The only response I got was why arent your boards running really ?? I donno maybe check them that they work before they leave your facility

Same experience here.

Technical support is non-existent.   
1056  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 18, 2014, 07:23:22 PM


Josh, please message me so I can arrange a trip to you to pick up my BACKPLANES that you were suppose to ship to me 2 weeks ago. Also, to replace these 4 module cards you gave me that were crap. You told me you tested them, obviously not my friend.

Speaking about BACKPLANES... I'm still waiting for my BACKPLANE.
1057  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 18, 2014, 07:22:01 PM
Okay guys, good positive/bad update.


I got 6 modules cards that run successfully. I have a ghetto-rigged backplane that I had to solder 3 times because the thing kept burning out for some reason.

Probably a bad board design...tisk tisk AMT/Bitmine.

The other 4 module cards I have ARE DEAD, they do not mine at all. I want a full replacement on these 4 cards AMT. I will post my statistics of the diagnostics on these cards.

I am currently mining at slush pool, and waiting another 24 hours before I post my STATS. I was running in TURBO mode, and it ran like a dream...

Josh, please message me so I can arrange a trip to you to pick up my BACKPLANES that you were suppose to ship to me 2 weeks ago. Also, to replace these 4 module cards you gave me that were crap. You told me you tested them, obviously not my friend.

Lets be cordial here, and settle this like men, I met you in person. Now play by the rules, and lets settle this.

Otherwise, we will have some other things to talk about...

PLEASE respond AMT whether by email or publicly.

Thanks! ~

Very Respectfully,

~Casey A. Merry~
~Merry Miners CEO~

I got at least two cards that have their power connectors torn of due to a bad shipment.  

How about

(1) I send you these two cards (in the hope you repair them) in exchange for the two broken cards you identified.

or alternatively....

(3) I send you these two cards in the hopes that you have a better chance on getting them replaced when you meet AMT in person.

One last question,

are all your boards with orange or blue heatsinks?
1058  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 18, 2014, 04:28:15 PM


Do you not have the larger heatsink that covers a whole side of the board? Or do you have a bare board with just little heatsinks? I am trying to understand the need for new heatsinks. The ones on there seem fine to me.

The Dragon Miners seem to have it on both sides,  so I am guessing that they likely have it done right.

Possibly. But those other heatsinks arent covering all the chips either. Which is odd by itself.

Well, you only need to cover the coincraft a1 chips.   I guess the Dragon Miner has all its chips on the center of the board unlike AMT where it is spread out at the edges.

I was under the impression it was a reference design. So all would be building them relatively similar based on the bitmine design. I haven't looked into it too deep but I might out of curiosity.


Bitmine has a revision 3 board that is different from the AMT (Bitmine revision 2) board.   I believe Btimine had trouble with the revision 2 boards and stopped shipment of any system greater than 800 GHs.   Don't know if it was a power or heat problem.  

I think the current AMT design should work at around 800 GHs... 3 boards.

 
1059  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 18, 2014, 04:21:07 PM


Do you not have the larger heatsink that covers a whole side of the board? Or do you have a bare board with just little heatsinks? I am trying to understand the need for new heatsinks. The ones on there seem fine to me.

The Dragon Miners seem to have it on both sides,  so I am guessing that they likely have it done right.

Possibly. But those other heatsinks arent covering all the chips either. Which is odd by itself.

Well, you only need to cover the coincraft a1 chips.   I guess the Dragon Miner has all its chips on the center of the board unlike AMT where it is spread out at the edges.
1060  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: April 18, 2014, 04:05:25 PM


Do you not have the larger heatsink that covers a whole side of the board? Or do you have a bare board with just little heatsinks? I am trying to understand the need for new heatsinks. The ones on there seem fine to me.

The Dragon Miners seem to have it on both sides,  so I am guessing that they likely have it done right.
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