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1041  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Ryan Garcia vs Javier Fortuna - July 19 on: June 21, 2022, 12:07:15 PM

That was an arranged fight, we can really expect a mismatch for Tagoe and Garcia..

How do you know it was an arranged fight? I mean tagoe was like 32-0 and who's boxer losses his mind to sell his precious career record for a lose?
That was clearly a mismatch, it wasn't arranged, it was cherry picked. People were deceived by Tagoe's record as if he's worthy to beat as an opponent for Garcia. That guy Tagoe might have fought a bunch of mediocre boxers.
Obviously, he has no chance on winning fighting toe to toe against a faster and younger Garcia.

He was actually like 31-1 before he fought Garcia, we can see it in his updated record now (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/289944) which is already 32-2. Well, I believe it was a cherry picked fight, it was a fair fight but obviously Garcia is the better fighter and that 32-1 is nothing to him.
1042  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: June 21, 2022, 11:27:23 AM
About Mikey Williams, seemed like the contract has not been finalized yet, but he will still play with the TNT.

His statement from https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mikey-williams-on-delayed-arrival-tnt-contract-impasse-a2244-20220621?ref=home_featured_big

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MIKEY JUST WANTS TO PLAY.
"I decided to make the trip back to the Philippines to serve the best interests of the organization," said Williams, who reiterated that "TNT and I haven't completely come to an agreement on a contract."

He is at a point mentally that he wants to focus on playing basketball again. And hoping that a fair renegotiation can be agreed upon.

"The renegotiation process seemed at times all things but fair, and my worry concerning that contributed to the lack of communication," Mikey revealed.

Good news for TNT, they need him for another campaign of winning the championship, he is back.
1043  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your NBA Champion this season? on: June 20, 2022, 03:00:19 PM
I think we have already discussed well the NBA Championship, and since the purpose of this thread has already been served, I am now locking this thread, until the next NBA championship guys, see yah!
1044  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: June 20, 2022, 02:13:49 PM
F***ing Bob Arum made a deal already for lineal champion Artur Beterbiev to defend his 3 belts in England against Anthony Yarde. Right after the fight, Beterbiev clearly said he wanted to unify the 4 belts in order to become undisputed. Beterbiev is already 37, time is his enemy. He needs to fight the last remaining belt holder Dmity Bivol. Canelo Alvarez a guy who always wanted to challenge himself will surely try again if that fight is for the undisputed belts. In this 4 belt era, there was never been a 2 division undisputed champion. Canelo might become the first one.      

That's literally unfortunate for Artur Beterbiev because he might have no chance to fight for an undisputed fight against Dmitrii Bivol as his voice is nothing when it comes to his promoter, Bob Arum. Every boxer's dream is to have a legacy and Artur Beterbiev is definitely capable on being an undisputed fighter if Arum gives him a chance earlier because now he's turning 38 years old while the other title holder is still 31 years old. I won't be shocked if there's no one gets interested anymore in signing the Top Rank.

That was really unfortunate. Father time is catching up for Beterbiev and Bivol is still in his prime. They need to get this done.

However, if it's about money, Beterbiev will surely enjoy what he will receive. Bob Arum is maybe a fuc*ing bastard but without his influence, a fight might not generate a good income. Bob Arum knows well how to make big money in every fight he is organizing.

I'm speculating 2 scenarios here:

a) stay away from Arum's shadow after the fight with Yarde so he can demand a unification against Bivol

Or maybe,

b) Arum told Beterbiev that Bivol fight will be next if he beats Yarde

I hope there's a negotiation like that so Beterbiev could have a chance to unify with Bivol and prove to the world that he is the better figher. Retiring undefeated but you still have a lot to prove would result to non satisfaction as a boxer, you only retire undefeated but you are not an accomplished boxer.
1045  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: June 19, 2022, 07:49:17 PM
Unang ring nila si Iggy ang nanalong MVP. Tapos yung huling 2 eh si KD.

Tiyak daming nanalo sa serye na to hehehe, ML palang sa Warriors nung game 4 at game 6 swabe na. Sayang nga lang ung isang props ko, kinapos nung isang rebound is Wiggins. Nung nakaraan naman akala ko talo na ako, kasi kapos ng isang rebound is Steph, yung pala nakakuha pa sya ng isa.

So tapos na ang NBA ngayon. Pahinga naman, pero marami pa naman din tayong pwedeng pag usapan katulad ng kung sino sino ang lilipat ng team o i-trade para mag build up na naman for next season. Matunog yung sa Utah eh, lagi kasing ang lakas nito sa regular games, pero pag sa playoffs ni hindi makapasok sa WCF. Iniisip ko baka si Mitchell o kaya is Gobert ang i-trade hehehe.

Ano sa tingin nyo?

Oo si Igoudala ang unang nakasungkit ng Finals MVP bago si Durant sa back to back na championship nung nakaraan. Ngayon pantay na ang dami na nila Steph, Klay at Green sa singsing si LeBron James.

Sayang, over 7.5 pala yung kinuha mo. Kung tutuusin parang makukuha naman talaga ni Wiggins yun pero di naman ntin ma tyempohan kasi andyan din si Green para mag rebound.

Tungkol naman sa trade, mas maraming gustong kumuha ni Gobert. Ang pinakamatunog ngayon ay kukunin sya ng Brooklyn Nets o Atlanta Hawks.

Maganda rin si Gobert, paro malaki ring ang sahod ni Gobert, saka meron naman ang Warriors na Wiseman, for sure next season makakapag laro na ito. Hindi na kailangan ng Warriors ng big man na iiskor, kailangan lang nila ang defense in the paint pero si Wiseman magaling na bata ito.

okay na rin ang average nitong si Wiseman.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wisemja01.html

Oo hindi na kailangan pa ng Warriors na kumuha ng malakas at matangkad na tatao sa sentro para sa kanilang kupunan. Meron na silang investment ky James Wiseman at kung bibigyan pa sya ng exposure ay baka mas maging halimaw pa sya sa sentro kaysa kay Wiggins lalo nat di hamak na mas matangkad pa si Wiseman.

Maiba tayo, sa tingin nyo san kaya mapupunta si Kai Sotto? Matunog rin ang pangalan nya at marami ding team ay may interest sa kanya.
1046  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: June 19, 2022, 07:08:08 PM
F***ing Bob Arum made a deal already for lineal champion Artur Beterbiev to defend his 3 belts in England against Anthony Yarde. Right after the fight, Beterbiev clearly said he wanted to unify the 4 belts in order to become undisputed. Beterbiev is already 37, time is his enemy. He needs to fight the last remaining belt holder Dmity Bivol. Canelo Alvarez a guy who always wanted to challenge himself will surely try again if that fight is for the undisputed belts. In this 4 belt era, there was never been a 2 division undisputed champion. Canelo might become the first one.      

That's literally unfortunate for Artur Beterbiev because he might have no chance to fight for an undisputed fight against Dmitrii Bivol as his voice is nothing when it comes to his promoter, Bob Arum. Every boxer's dream is to have a legacy and Artur Beterbiev is definitely capable on being an undisputed fighter if Arum gives him a chance earlier because now he's turning 38 years old while the other title holder is still 31 years old. I won't be shocked if there's no one gets interested anymore in signing the Top Rank.
1047  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season - Finals on: June 18, 2022, 05:31:42 PM

If we hear what Steph said after they win, they hear the chatter and that includes Durant leaving them because he thinks that this is Steph team and whatever he does, (winning 2 ring with them and 2 MVP), he won't be a Warrior by heart. And there are arguments that they won because of KD. But Steph proved his critics wrong again, and adding the MVP finals. So as much as we don't want to include him in the discussion, many analyst or shall we say, not a fan of Curry, will always have Durant's name.
KD was definitely instrumental last time GSW won championship as the team was dealing with injuries and needed some impact from a few crucial players, that KD provided. Can't deny the fact that KD did in fact help win championship. GSW has done it without him and then a couple of times with him. This time, it did help the fact that Wiggins pulled up his socks offensively and was immense defensively.

Yes, he was but later on, Durant choose to depart from the Warriors who gave him a chance to have his own first title back then and they even got a back-to-back win. He was a big help that time because he's versatile in offense and sometimes plays defense as he's much taller than the usual Warriors roster.

Bottom-line is that KD thinks that he can have his own team and lift them towards the championship that's why he left for the Brooklyn Nets. But Steph Curry proved that they can get a ring without him while Durant and his team was swept on the 1st round by the Boston Celtics.
1048  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 18, 2022, 05:05:14 PM

Just one of those random odds here:

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Predictions: Who Will Win?
Latest Odds

    Magsayo to win: 1/2
    Vargas to win: 2/1
    Draw: 19/1

https://champinon.info/schedule/magsayo-vs-vargas/#pred

Yeah, most of the time it's really hard to understand how bookies put someone as favorite. This fight is close, but again as I have said, we should take advantage specially if they are going to put Magsayo at 2.x odds and higher.

Magsayo is 1/2, which means our $100 will only win $50,.. I think the odds are just right, he is the champion so he should be the favorite to win. However, I like the odds of Vargas here because he is also a great fighter, and he has a chance to beat Magsayo if he could box him right.

That's right, it would be a disrespect for Magsayo if he will be listed as the underdog in this fight. I think we should wait until these odds are available on our favorite bookies so we can confirm that it's the correct betting odds, also, we can bet early if we see some value on the odds provided.

That odds will move somewhere near the fight but I believe Mark Magsayo will still be listed as the favorite rather than the challenger, Rey Vargas, let's just wait some time as maybe next week it will be available where we usually bet.
The latter have a chance to upset the 1st time title defender but I can say it's slim because Magsayo can adjust more especially when the fight drags into late rounds.
1049  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How safe it is to invest in cryptocurrency on: June 18, 2022, 09:56:53 AM
I dare say if you invest in a stablecoin like USDT then you will be safe but if you invest in a volatile alcoin then it is a big risk and you can get a big profit too, if the current market position it is better to invest with a big coin like eth coin and coin bnb because there is a possibility that these two coins will go up in the future.

There's nothing wrong with investing in a stable coin or bitcoin or yet altcoin, yes, USDT is much safer as it's stable but sometimes that is not what the investors are looking for. Some investors are looking for a medium where they can invest their funds and reap competitive returns in the future and that's where the bitcoin and other leading altcoins come in as they're much more capable of giving what the investors need than the stable USDT. Also, the risk is always a factor when you invest and we can't avoid that, we all just need to have our own research on when is the right time to buy and what coins suit us the most.
1050  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: June 18, 2022, 09:31:55 AM
Unang ring nila si Iggy ang nanalong MVP. Tapos yung huling 2 eh si KD.

Tiyak daming nanalo sa serye na to hehehe, ML palang sa Warriors nung game 4 at game 6 swabe na. Sayang nga lang ung isang props ko, kinapos nung isang rebound is Wiggins. Nung nakaraan naman akala ko talo na ako, kasi kapos ng isang rebound is Steph, yung pala nakakuha pa sya ng isa.

So tapos na ang NBA ngayon. Pahinga naman, pero marami pa naman din tayong pwedeng pag usapan katulad ng kung sino sino ang lilipat ng team o i-trade para mag build up na naman for next season. Matunog yung sa Utah eh, lagi kasing ang lakas nito sa regular games, pero pag sa playoffs ni hindi makapasok sa WCF. Iniisip ko baka si Mitchell o kaya is Gobert ang i-trade hehehe.

Ano sa tingin nyo?

Oo si Igoudala ang unang nakasungkit ng Finals MVP bago si Durant sa back to back na championship nung nakaraan. Ngayon pantay na ang dami na nila Steph, Klay at Green sa singsing si LeBron James.

Sayang, over 7.5 pala yung kinuha mo. Kung tutuusin parang makukuha naman talaga ni Wiggins yun pero di naman ntin ma tyempohan kasi andyan din si Green para mag rebound.

Tungkol naman sa trade, mas maraming gustong kumuha ni Gobert. Ang pinakamatunog ngayon ay kukunin sya ng Brooklyn Nets o Atlanta Hawks.
1051  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: June 17, 2022, 08:28:52 PM
I still remember the fight against Bivol, I really can't believe it, the Russian is quite a machine, and I think this event triggered many Canelo fans who no longer want to watch his fights because they don't think they have the same emotion, I think. that there could be a lot of emotions if GGG and Canelo had happened long before the fight with Bivol, I think the magic is not the same now, personally I was one of those who wanted that fight to happen, now I don't know, anymore I don't want to, why? rather Inoue is the most sought-after boxer for now, by force of pure knockouts he has earned a great position.


I already posted this once. Bivol has so many similarities with Golovkin (in terms of ethnic background and nationality). And I am sure that this guy has enough talent to become a legend like GGG or Mayweather in the future. I hardly heard about him before his fight with Canelo, but he was amazing to watch. I am eagerly looking forward to his next fight, which is rumored to be against Joshua Buatsi. Canelo vs Bivol 2, if I am not wrong will be staged sometime in mid-2023. But both the fighters need to win their next match, in order to set up this fight.

I beg to disagree, sure Bivol have some similarities with GGG but that doesn't include their ethnicity and nationality because Dmitrii Bivol is a Russian boxer while Gennady Golovkin is a Kazakhstani boxer and both of their parents neither came from the same place or country. Along with their similarities is that they both speak the language of Russia and Kazakhstan. Anyway, enough of their background, let's focus first with this trilogy as Canelo is yet to decide soon if he will indeed pursue a rematch with Bivol after this fight.
1052  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: June 17, 2022, 08:02:21 PM
Nevertheless, Vargas is first on his list being a defending champion in this weight class.

It's good that Vargas will be Magsayo's first match since being a champion because the former is really a big deal.

Magsayo as a champion should just take challenges from those who are on the top list of possible challengers to give him a good experience.

Surely, Magsayo is doing his best on preparations and maybe he's so excited now to defend his title for the first time as a champion.

I agree, he is indeed lucky to get a fight against Rey Vargas on his first time defending a belt. Vargas will make him more knowledgeable in the ring because Vargas has more experience than Magsayo, and that's what he should look into because he should get an experience by a win and not by a defeat because it's literally too early for him to be defeated when this is his first time defending as a champion.

Well in an eventual fight against Magsayo and Vargas do you think Vargas will have the upper hand? I know that in boxing experience is an added value that is excellent, but Magsayo is already being compared to Pacquiao and that is something very big considering that Pacquiao is a legend, however the style of both fighters is different, or at least I see it like this, Magsayo in most of the times is like more explosive, he has energetic outbursts that if he does not remove himself quickly the opponent can give him a good knockout, if this happens with Vargas I think many probabilities can fall and the statistics that are always handled don't you think?


He might have an upper hand at the event of the fight but the way I see it, that's just for the first few rounds where Magsayo is still feeling himself to catch up and adjusting as he also know that Vargas is much more experienced so he does have more IQ in the ring than him. We may see the fight last longer as these both boxers might start off easy to feel each other. You know, both have clean record so they don't exactly want to get each other some advantage because of some mistake they will do in the ring.
1053  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bonus Abuse: Who is to Blame? on: June 16, 2022, 05:59:45 PM
Ofc the ones to blame are the fraudsters. No way in hell is there a world where the act of scamming/taking advantage of a loophole is the right thing to do.

For me scamming is very different from taking advantage of casino promotion. I'll make an analogy for this to explain more properly:

Scamming is like cheating, it's like using a 3rd party-tool to a particular casino or website to rigged their game for your own benefit. It's stated on their TOS that using those are illegal and can face some serious charges if proven to be guilty.

While promotion abuse or exploit doesn't violate anything on the TOS making people not afraid to do it. It is the fault of casino owners because they did not review properly if there will be a loophole on their promotion.

Certainly, it's the management's fault why there's an existing loophole in their promotions and obviously it cannot be called as a scam or taking advantage because that's only natural because people are smart enough to know what to do in order to have some money while the promotion still exists. They should've reviewed it properly and have the proper people to oversee it to avoid these kind of things.
1054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA Finals 2022 - Warriors vs Celtics. on: June 16, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
If you haven’t seen this video, it’s from a great local YouTuber. He does lots of great stuff like giving things away to people in need, but he also occasionally makes videos as “fake” Klay Thompson.

https://youtu.be/qtcDSwoxOUw

This video from game 5 got him banned from the Warriors arena for life and cost him to lose $10,000 tickets. Still funny. Check it out and some of his other videos as well.

Yeah, I've seen his videos numerous times, at first I also thought he was the real Klay Thompson and the funny thing is that he is not saying that he's Klay but the way he looks and dresses somehow makes him like the real one. I saw the video yesterday and the dude overstepped his line as he deliberately fooled the employees as he entered the "employees only entrance" and shots some few balls in the court. That what got him banned lifetime in Chase Center.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HODL on: June 15, 2022, 06:17:07 PM
My portfolio is a wide net. 50% BTC & ETH. It's fascinating watching altcoin behavior in this downward spiral. Some unexpected surprises... Braintrust 😉. I haven't invested more than I'm willing to lose. Though down about 55% I'm in for the long term. HODL !!!

A severe crypto winter has come on the market and bitcoin has broken a new bottom. The tightening of monetary policy has a negative impact on the entire crypto market and it is likely that bitcoin will still fall for some time. I, like you, are of the opinion that now only HOLD and we will wait for growth in the next bullish bitcoin cycle.
Indeed, there is actually no other choice but to hold it in view of the declining market conditions,
because if you decide to sell I don't think it's a good decision and it actually makes us lose money and of course we don't want it
better be patient and wait for the bull market
We honestly don't want that situation to happen to us, we invested quite some amounts already to these coins and now we will just give it up because the market has just reached a new rock bottom, some of us are already been in this situation and we're quite intelligent enough to know how not to lose and that rejecting the current situation because we also know that this is just temporary as we know what happened in the past when it hit rock bottom. Be patient folks, HOLD to reap the fruits in the future.
1056  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: June 15, 2022, 05:36:14 PM
Panalo ang Warriors diyan kasi 4-1.5 is equal to 2.5 tapos ang score lang ng Boston is 2 lang, so in short panalo ka.
Actually, pustahan sa labas +1 or -1 game lang naman yan eh, ewan ko kung bakit may 0.5 pa sa mga bookies natin.

Salamat sa sagot kabayan, yan din ang nasa isip ko pero hindi ako sigurado kasi nga first time ko na nakapusta sa "outright" na option na ito sa bookies hehe.

Ano pala plano mo kabayan, pwede pa share? haha

Plano ko kasi na ipusta ang kalahati ng amount na yon pabor sa Boston sa game6 para kahit sinong manalo ay may kalahati akong makukuha which is profit din naman kung tutuusin  Grin. Not too greedy lang kabayan haha.
 
Sample computation:
100 x 4.8 = 480 (panalo ko kung mananalo ang Warriors pero kung talo wala)

200 x 2 = 400 (ito ang pusta ko next game pabor sa Boston)

100 + 200 = 300 (puhunan ko)
480 - 300 = 180 (pag panalo ng Warriors sa game6)
400 - 300 = 100 (pag nanalo ang Boston sa game6)

Anong tingin nyo rito hehe?

Galing nito ha, kahit san maglagay eh panalo ka pa rin, ito ba ung tinatawag nilang value bet? di ako pamilyar pero parang ganito

yung concept nun, tataya ka pero hindi ka matatalo, swerte ng mga sasabay sayo na meron pang option para sa ganitong odd

malamang matalo manalo may pera ka pa rin, hindi ka na mamomproblema kungbaga eh hayahay ka na lang na nagaantay ng

pera, mas lalo kung malaki laki ung puhunan mo..

Okay yan, parang business lang ginawa mo, haha.. wala kang lugi diyan kabayan.

Pero sana naman hindi mo pagsisihan if ever Warriors talaga ang gusto mo at sila ang manalo, baka kasi isipin mo sana hindi ka nalang nag "arbitrage" kasi mas malaki sana ang panalo mo.

Galing! Talagang pinag-isipan mo talaga kabayan kung anong mas maiging gagawin para kahit saan ka tumaya ay meron ka paring makukuha, okay yan. Ganyan din siguro ginagawa ng mga professional bettors dahil hindi nman sila masyadong lugmok tingnan kong natalo yung pinustahan nila, kaya pala! hehe.

Maiba muna tayo, dito sa amin mas maraming tumataya sa Boston ngayong Game 6. Halos 50k pataas ang pusta at nagbibigay pa ng +3 sa Warriors.

Parang karamihan ata ay sa Celtics pumupusta sa next game kasi pati dito sa amin mas maraming maka Celtics sa Game 6 kompara sa Warriors, may mangilan-ngilan din na sa Warriors sa next game pero mas di hamak na marami talaga ang naniniwala na sa Game 7 pato matatapos pero syempre talagang Warriors din talaga ang magigign champion.
Pumusta din ako sa Boston dito sa amin kabayan pero fair game lang, walang plus-plus kasi kahit +3 yan masyadong masakit din kong tutuusin kong dutdutan ang laban.
1057  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's happening With Bitcoin? on: June 15, 2022, 05:18:06 PM
We're inside the cycle. Inflation do come and it's also part of it and that's because people will find a way to hedge against it and the perfect asset for it is bitcoin.

Buying with DCA way during this massive dump would be the best choice.
I agree and whether DCA or not, as long as you take the moment to buy on this very dip, you're just doing the right thing. It's a wise choice to buy when you've seen that we're likely at the bottom.

Yes, take this situation as an advantage to buy bitcoins while it's still cheap and other coins too at a lower price as we don't know if this is the very rock bottom because their volatile. Just ignore the declinations of these prices and make this to your advantage. I'm not shocked because the market is declining because I expected that there would be many investors who would sell their bitcoins because of the current situation, seems like they're not that ready to commit for long term.
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How are your shitcoins? on: June 15, 2022, 12:50:18 PM
are you seriously trusting this Meme coin? though it made a trend last year yet this will take long before making its way back to where it is last 2021 , and seeing 80% drop? that is a risky idea to keep holding mate.
I believe and I am ready with all the risks. i already said that i bought the shiba at a cheaper price and i bought it with cold cash and ready to lose. Shiba I hold for the long term. Nothing is impossible, crypto always surprises.
Exactly mate, I also Keeps my SHIB nowadays as the price is really cheap and accumulating more now, and even if this took me years to profit? at least i know where my funds are going because this coin will stay long in our market , Meme coin are permanently part of this investing so keep an eye in cheapest prices .
By looking at the current condition and the current price, there is really no choice but to keep it,
selling it right now would be a loss and we wouldn't know what would happen to Shiba in the future,
to be clear, it's better to just follow the developments

Shitcoins does not have a future in the long run, it only pump due to hype, but selling at the current stage is also a bad idea because price of altcoins are very cheap due to the heavy dumps that we are witnessing now, although it's a shitcoin/s, we still have to be patient and always sell at the right timing.
1059  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bonus Abuse: Who is to Blame? on: June 15, 2022, 12:06:36 PM
It should be the one who made the abuse has to be blamed, otherwise, we are victim blaming if we will blame the gambling site. Although I must say that control in place for a gambling site might be weak if they can easily be abused by greedy gamblers, in the end, it's still those who commit abuse that should pay the consequences of their actions.
1060  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA Finals 2022 - Warriors vs Celtics. on: June 15, 2022, 11:44:19 AM

Experience really is a big factor to this match-up. The Warriors know how to adjust when needed.

Warriors had already won twice in a row, if Celtics adjustment will not work in game 6, then most likely the series will end in 6. You know, Warriors are good in close out game, so I trust them to bring the energy that is needed to defeat the Celtics, I can already feel the celebrating in advance, LOL.
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