Sorry for your loss (and inability to value the corn).

Bitcoin is made to reck peeps like you.  

And, in 92 merits you will be ranking up, too. 

Referring to the unpopular topic:


BTC prices

Bearded:  You may want to consider just clarifying OP to say that your creation / maintenance of this thread/list is not meant to either support or oppose the listed applications, and that if any member wants to support or oppose such applicants, they can provide links to other threads in this thread that support or oppose such applications, but that this thread is not intended for discussing the endorsement or opposition of such applicants... and that might clarify without you having to take any position beyond merely listing applicants while also allowing members to link their support or opposition threads, if any.

Why can't we just get along?  Is that what you are saying?  

And you did not mark with:  #nohomo    

I doubt that there are many narratives that will be accurate if they attempt to suggest that there is any kind of unity regarding what is being protested, exactly, and who is responsible for the variety of mess in which people find themselves, whether we are talking about economic frustration or frustration regarding race relations and other liberties.

Maybe protests and riots would need to rise to a certain higher advancement in order for meaningful themes to be found?

Sure, "I am mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore" has a lot of ways to be interpreted, and anti-government would only be one angle, and surely might not even be held by a plurality of frustrated people, because some people are clearly upset about big corporations, and other people are upset about the rich and even other people are framing the matters in terms of race relations and other social justice issues. 

I think that the economic issues are stronger ways to organize and to motivate, but surely economic actors who do not want to be accountable for their sucking off the teet of the people are going to attempt to either frame these matters in terms of either vague social justice or race issues or issues to attempt to cause poor people to fight amongst each other. 

I personally don't consider the anti-government versus pro government assertions to really help in getting closer to attempting to find reasonable paths forward, and surely there are even some segments of government who are just loving the creation and escalation of more and more chaos because it likely distracts folks from seeing that they continue to be exploited in various kinds of ways by the continuing and ongoing redistribution of wealth towards people who do not deserve it (on the sly)... For example, not only give printed money  to banks for redistribution but allow them discretion concerning where the money goes and allow them to extract a reasonable fee too... would not want banks to suffer through any of this.  Poor lil tingilies. 

Fair enough assessment that we could have a break out to $12k in the coming 4-6 weeks, in the event that we do not break down to sub $8k-ish...


Exactly... get some tingling going.  #metoo.

You seem to be the newbie in these interactions, irfan_pak10, and you are not really coming close to making any kind of decent or positive impression (so far), which seems to be getting even MOAR worser if you cannot even recognize various likely credible players in a match in which you seem to be preparing for battle.

And, surely there are several WO thread regulars who have quite a bit of tolerance for goofballs and nonsense (I would include infofront in that relatively tolerant group), so it is NOT too likely to work out very well for you (in my sorcery proclamation attempts regarding your future here....hahahahahaha), if you cannot even come close to recognizing and/or appreciating those members who are more likely to stick up for your seemingly underwhelming ramblings.    

 



in other words, no hat for you......  



Exactly!!!  No need to even hide around the corner, since face-melting^tm chicken legs do not even matter on the interwebs.   

There is a pretty big fallacy if you try to equate all government agencies and also attempt to remove both individualism or levels of ability to exercise discretion both in the scope of the carrying out of government/job/professional duties and their individual discretion in that regard.

Of course, you can attempt to apply various amounts of game theory, group psychology, internal dynamics of any particular government agency, including attempting to determine which government agencies are at issue in the action (or lack of action or abuse of power/discretion that you are proclaiming to be at issue), yet in the end, you are likely to engage in vary sloppy thinking (even if you happen to get your conclusions right from time to time) if you lump all motivations in terms of government versus non-government.

Coroners are probably not too likely to be coerced or unduly influenced by other state actors such as policemen or prosecutors, but surely there could be some coincidental leanings of the Coroner in this case that favors police, etc.  Sure, that is possible, and Coroners are people too and may even have some political biases and opinions that are less than objective.

 In that regard, it seems that Floyd's family request to get an assessment from another coroner of their choosing could be of value to them and to the public, and surely the family (and even the public) should have the right to get such second opinion assessment in a case like this (and surely the family should be able to choose, too, because presumptively the family would choose a second opinion specialist (Coroner) that they believe to be sufficiently detached from local police or in other ways to be perceived as not biased in this case).

 Furthermore, there might be a question of additional costs, so it may be reasonable for the family to have to bear such additional costs of getting such second opinion (to the extent that extra costs might be an issue), but costs should not be a reason for their not being able to get a second opinion in a case that seems to be so inflammatory as this, including the fact that the preliminary results seem to be contrary to what visually seemed to be more likely to have been happening (or the consequences/impact of the officer's kneeling on Floyd's neck).

I doubt that cops are being criticized for subduing a person who was resisting arrest, but surely they are being criticized for either the use of excessive force or the impression that they were using excessive force.

Sure, it is possible that in the end, the pressure of the knee on George Floyd's neck did not break anything (or restrict blood flow, or crush the breathing tubes), but still there remains an impression of excessive force because that action seems to have not been necessary, based on other factors (such as other officers being there, Floyd was already handcuffed and other aspects showing that he was not likely a then threat)... so it seemed to have been both excessive, and also there is an impression that the cop(s) might have partially been motivated by treating people from different races disparately (black in this case).  There have been seemingly similar incidents in relatively recent times in the past that did not seem to cause those police officers to improve their conduct (such as through having had received training) and their way of dealing with people that they are interrogating or arresting.

Of course, officers do have duties of care that go beyond merely NOT using excessive force, but even though they could be accused of not carrying out proper duties of care, too, officers frequently do seem to get away with NOT rendering medical care, CPR, or even more basic levels of care such as safeguarding persons in their custody when they have actually been trained in how to carry out those kinds of duties of care things, and in a time like this (with the virus and everything like that), I doubt that the officers would be held to those higher levels of duties of care, such as rendering CPR (or otherwise potentially exposing themselves to Floyd or any other person)... so a lot of the public outrage remains to be more about what they did  (and the images and impressions of such actions) rather than what they failed to do.  


No.  You have shown yourself to be pretty retarded through a lot of your posts, so it would not be reasonable to attempt to portray yourself as having any kinds of superiorities.. .that would be very misleading....... There seems to be a kind of Dunning-Kruger effect going on in your particular situation.    


Oh gawd!!!!!   two arm-chaired "intelligence assessment" experts feeding off of one another.

 


How about we follow what this guy (lightfoot) said, even though I have not seen any significant or meaningful evidence that bitcoin has fallen off its path (anticipated price trajectory)... yet.

You see Arriemoller knows what he knows, and you are not going to unlearn him.

Try harder toxic poxic and hairybairy... and anyone else challenging his factual renditions (or logic to the extent any exists).

Surprised, anyone?

There really is no such group.

There are various fascists such as Donald Trump and others who had been creating this as a way to designate anyone against the fascists...

So it seems that a quite a few groups who are against trump and other fascists have accepted their group being labelled as anti-fascist... and sounds even worse to accept a name like antifa.. .. so seems to be a kind of war on rhetoric... .. so if trump is able to classify antifa as a terrorist group, then he can argue that anyone against him is a terrorist... seems a bit ridiculous, but retarded narcisist bullies tend to think like this, especially if they have never been held accountable for their bullying behaviors.

What a humble bumble you happen to be.  




Just when I thought that I was starting to understand you.

 

Rebuilding might generate some jobs, but instead, probably there will be a preference to teach the people a lesson, and not rebuild... more drama that way....   

Seems like the american way...... maybe privatize the rebuilding and contract it out..  .. or use the location as a place to carry out military urban drills

You are likely correct 1miau, regarding the distinction between cap and hat, and even if many of us likely aspire to have hats, if we don't play our cards right (including sticking with HODLing and accumulating BTC and not getting distracted into shitcoins), then we may end up having to settle with caps of the regular joe rather than hats of the new wealthy elite, gentlemen... especially with those who sold too much BTC too soon, which are less of a rare species than might be expected given bitcoin's largely upwardly trajected historical price path.  

Tanks do not burn as easily, but I am sure some rioters would love the challenge of destroying a tank, and sure whether matters are going to escalate or if the police are going to be able to get some of this under control is still to be seen.

Some of the powers that be likely love the chaos and the potential to possibly impose martial law..

Surely a balancing between sides, and surely the rioters are a combination of regular people and more adventurous pissed off people, and police have already seen if they are not able to keep some of the protests and property destruction matters under control it can devolve into more and more violence, property damage and of course, looting will follow when matters devolve into extremes, including when police forces are nowhere to be seen... and surely some of the more elderly folks and property owners might not really feel so comfortable going out onto the streets or might stay in the burbs to the extent that matters might be contained in certain neighborhoods, other than their own.

I am thinking that you should at least go through the process of accessing your coins a couple times a year, at least to look at them, and perhaps admire them.

Whether you need to change your storage locations or engage in some kind of consolidation of addresses might change with the passage of time, including considering fees but also considering whether you want to change some locations of some of your coins or the way that you use your coins (such as putting some on lightning or in some other possibly more portable location) or if there have been some changes (or even user-friendliness changes) of some coinjoin (or mixing) services.  

Let's say that you have realized that you have 10 BTC in one location, and you want to divide that into more manageable segments.  If you are not in a hurry to spend the coin, you might devise a strategy that moves the coin over several months or even over a year or two, yet even the process of making several moving efforts, might cause you to reconsider your plan while you are in the middle of it.  

So, on the other hand, if you are largely feeling frustrated by having the burden of 10BTC-ish, you can just sell them all, at any random price (currently such strategy is referred to as a "mindrust"), and be relieved of all of your then existing BTC burden... and start over with a strategy to DCA $50 per week into BTC.  

Once you employ the mindrust strategy, you will likely feel relieved of your BTC burdens until the BTC price starts going up, but resist such urge to buy back into BTC because you recognize that it is just going to cause you stress, just continue DCA'ing into BTC at modest amounts, such as $50 per week (even though you could invest way more than that).  At the same time, you will need to recognize and accept that your BTC HODLing stress levels might return (and escalate) in about 4 years, again, after your DCA'ing had built up your BTC value.. but if you regain too much BTC at that time (4 years or so into the future), (let's say that you get to 1BTC this next time around), just do another mindrust, and sell all your BTC and then restructure your DCA strategy to low stress levels, and your BTC HODLing stress levels should decline to more "normal" levels.. just like other folks who don't bother their lil selfies with having the various burdens of HODLing and managing a number of BTC addresses.

*note serious BTC hodlers don't tend to employ the mindrust strategy because they figure out ways NOT to get stressed by attempting to manage their BTC HODLings.

For you, specifically... Yes, a few random shitcoins would probably be good for you to attempt to build some character.. or at least keep you out of our hair for a while.

So, yes, experiment for a couple of years until you reach teenager status, but surely we don't want to hear about your ventures here......    

Now, go play... try to learn something while you are at it, if that is possible!!!!!!  

*note: this recommendation does not apply to normally adjusted peeps.. nor any well-disciplined kiddie or one who has actually reached teenager status.. and who has more than a few dollars per week to invest.

Surely something really BIG could negatively affect all markets, and likely would create ongoing potential to distinguish shitcoins from bitcoin - at the same time, there could be some weird world that evolves in which physical assets become overly undervalued compared with digital assets - which contributes to likely undue pumpening of shitcoin projects that would not otherwise deserve such support that comes from a lack of confidence in placing value into some physical assets.  Perhaps, I am not placing high odds on such a scenario, but still consider that recently we have been witnessing some somewhat unprecedented devolving values in he physical world including negative oil, of course virus related devaluations and realizations of expenses in the physical world, severe crackdowns in hongkong that may or may not play out too well and then if riots continue to be contagious in USA cities, authorities might end up realizing that their various technologies can sometimes be kind of helpless in attacking people from within... of course, there might be some folks who want to play hardball, and those actions have real costs, and can cut either way in terms of whether they are able to quel the state of real world inequalities (real or not) that cause a decently large segment of the population to conclude that they have nothing to lose.



I have not really been playing around too much with P2P in the last year or so after Localbitcoins really dried up in the USA, and I have not searched for other possible P2P avenues, but surely, I recall towards the peak of the 2017 bubble, almost all local bitcoin traders disappeared, even from selling BTC, and I stuck it out for a while by continually raising my prices and even limiting the quantity of transactions that I would do based on so much demand, but after a while, I just had to stop any transactions because I started to feel that my physical safety was becoming more at risk.  People were getting increasingly crazy in October/November, and by the time December, January, February came, I just could not tolerate it, but I think I resumed sometime after February or so...  probably I had a month and a half hiatus in the middle of it, and of course, the jamming of some of the transactions processing between about early December 2017 and nearly the end of January 2018 contributed to additional anxieties, too.



Sure, I might be talking about a bit of a USA phenomena, and I had already decently built up my credit by the 90s when I started to take advantage and play around with this stuff.  I would imagine some of that free credit did not exist as much in other places, so it might be a bit unfair for me to mention it, except that I was trying to point out some of the irony of a lot of the freeflowing credit that I was able to find for many years, and then all of a sudden when money is being printed like it is going out of style, then some of the credit avenues dry up.. and just seems like more of a ploy, including the shenanigans that banks play, even with all the free money that they have at their disposal.  They had engaged in similar behaviors in their receipt of free money in 2008, too... those corrupt self-dealing fucks.


Yes.. early 2000s were pretty prolific with credit card promotions, and I don't know what I am thinking regarding any bank promotions because they want to entice you in, but then they also are going to want to charge you for maintaining an account... so I am not sure how that is going to play out, and surely bitcoin should give them some competition in that direction, but I suspect banks will not be forced to compete with bitcoin until after they have played quite a few games with their account holders. .maybe even employing surprise bail-ins too.