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10461  Other / Meta / Re: Is asking for a feedback is wrong on: May 14, 2015, 02:08:59 AM
It's not wrong to ask for feedback but one shouldn't demand it or have an exchange (if I give you feedback, you also need to give me feedback). There are many members who actually do that just to build up trust. One should leave feedback if he/she wishes to and in fact not when asked to leave. It's important to not leave feedback just after 1-2 trades as it hurts the trust system if the user abuses it and scams another member.
I would disagree with this. If one person took on zero risk in a transaction then it would be less appropriate to leave trust feedback while if money was risked then a positive rating is almost certainly appropriate. Even if only one trade was done then it would be appropriate to leave trust if money was risked while this would not be the case if no money was risked.

Anyone specifically trading with someone just for the trust that comes with the trade should not receive positive trust and is highly suspicious in my book.

Here you emphasize that trust should be based on the amount of risk undertaken by a party.  But just a few posts above you emphasize that this is trust feedback system not a trade feedback system.  These two viewpoints are incommensurate.  In your first opinion you suggest that people can leave feedback for any cause, no matter the risk.  The latter opinion tries to correlate the validity of trust with the risk involved. How can you hold both these conflicting opinions simultaneously (or are you just posting to increase your signature pay?---NB: I only add this paranthetical because that is exactly what you have done to me many times when I disagree with you---more recently you took it to even greater extremes, leaving me negative feedback multiple times from multiple accounts just because I disagreed with you).
If you risked a large amount of money when trading with someone then you obviously needed to trust them enough to take such a risk. If you take risk with someone then there is no way around the fact that you trust them.

Giving trust because of risk taken is one reason why giving a trust rating is appropriate, however is not the only reason why one is appropriate.

Giving a trust rating when zero is risked, especially for very small transactions makes no sense because you did not need to trust them to engage in such trades.

There are other non-trading reasons to give trust feedback, e.g. you witness someone engaging in trustworthy behavior and/or scammy behavior and/or witness them scamming and/or them admitting to scamming (as in your case).

I personally find it hard to believe that someone could possibly be thickheaded enough to seriously not see this conclusion based on my posts and the only reasonable conclusion as to the reason for you comments would be that you are trying to stir up trouble
10462  Other / Meta / Re: [ moderators ]Will I be Banned again..?? [ moderators ] on: May 14, 2015, 01:38:04 AM
-snip-
ok i got now..
i thought that i am only allowed to post in meta section, now i got that i am allowed only to post in this thread only...

Just take a lengthy break from the board and try again next season.

What's the length of session...
The longest 'time based' ban that I have heard of is 60 days, so I would add an additional 30 days to that. So go away for 90 days, and ask nicely. Maybe you will be given a different answer. 
10463  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Starbucks TRANSFER Card for 10-15% ☆★☆★☆★!!!! [VERIFY] [LEGIT 100%] on: May 14, 2015, 12:51:32 AM
Not sure about everybody else but i got a transfer from him yesterday. So far so good, will update if it goes bad.
did he reply via pm or??? he took my money and ran

Sorry man , like i said , i'am in FINALS EXAMS , I CANNOT DEAL ALOT WITH YOU GUYS , My ACADEMIC LIFE IS ON GAME , only this week , i have more than 50+ orders , i cannot treat them all in 10minutes , so please wait ur turn!

Ten minutes? Its been over two days now. You could just send us refunds...
i tried that to. op claims he have no btc. clearly a scam.
If only someone had issued a warning about the OP. Then maybe the OP wouldn't have been able to scam in the way that he did......oh wait someone did Roll Eyes
I can vouch that this is a scam and that the OP is simply trying to launder money via Starbucks cards acquired via carded credit cards
10464  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling Up To 2 BTC. Trusted Members Only.. on: May 13, 2015, 07:10:50 PM
Being that you have little trade history and you are looking to trade with only trusted members, it would probably be better if you sent first (if someone has significant enough trust/trade history) or you use escrow. Either way I think it is safe to say that it would not be safe to send first to you.
10465  Other / Meta / Re: Is asking for a feedback is wrong on: May 13, 2015, 04:52:19 PM
Escrows like to get additional feedback so they can show additional vouches so they can better sell their service. Also even if you have a high trust rating if all of your trades were from a long time ago and you have not traded at all for a long time then some may question your continued integrity. It is not so much about needing to show as being trusted, it is getting additional feedback regarding their ability to be trusted and their professionalism.

I wouldn't ever force, or attempt to force someone to give a positive rating, or attempt to coerce them into removing a negative rating (for example by sending retaliatory negative feedback) however my standard closing after I finish an escrow deal is to ask for positive trust, and/or a review on my escrow thread and/or a tip if they feel everything went smoothly, and I won't follow up if none have been received. Nevertheless the above example is an example of when positive trust should be given, especially if it was for that large of an amount.   
10466  Other / Meta / Re: Why 'email address' revealed to Mods when reporting? on: May 13, 2015, 04:42:41 PM
Moderators get an email (or they can if their settings are set up a certain way) that notifies them of the report and at least one of the email addresses the email is "from" is the email address attached to your account.
10467  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [WTB] Full Member or Pot. Full Member As Soon As Possible on: May 13, 2015, 03:00:54 PM
Just to let anyone considering doing business with this person that this is an alt of puzzel.me who has extorted people in the past and who has scammed multiple users in the past.

I would personally not sell an account to this person.
10468  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: Selling a Senior Account on: May 13, 2015, 02:47:30 PM
You probably shouldn't post its identity as that decreases its value to a potential buyer. If you give its stats (rough activity level, rough number of posts, trust rating, rough registration date, ect) then a potential buyer will have sufficient information for how much the account is worth.
10469  Economy / Lending / Re: grtthegreat's LENDING SERVICE [COLLATERAL] on: May 13, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
The account was not hacked via the password. According to the security log its password was reset via its secret question. I believe that the answer to the secret question will not be displayed so you need to be sure to "zero out" the secret question and the answer when securing an account.

First, can you guide me how I can access the security log. Also, now, I removed every possible way to recover the account. I also have set a so difficult password that now, its just impossible to crack (64 characters long with all characters, symbols, numbers).
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

It looks like someone reset the password on  rony_90 twice earlier  today (lol) so you might want to double check to make sure you can still access the account. (It was reset via security question). To zero out the security question you will need to place a curser in the question field and hit the backspace button until you are certain there is nothing in the field (including invisible characters) and then repeat the process for the answer. It is possible that only invisible characters are present in both fields so it appears to you that nothing is there when there really is.
10470  Economy / Lending / Re: grtthegreat's LENDING SERVICE [COLLATERAL] on: May 13, 2015, 02:30:44 PM
RONY_90 is trying to sell his account does he have active loan for this account?

He's saying he acquired it from loan default?

Please let me know!

Where is he trying to do so ?? I received two messages from that account saying that the password I set was easy and also the new password that guy set. He says:



Now, I have changed the passwords of the accounts with 64 character, symbol, numberic passwords. And also removed some unwanted info. The account is still on sale.
The account was not hacked via the password. According to the security log its password was reset via its secret question. I believe that the answer to the secret question will not be displayed so you need to be sure to "zero out" the secret question and the answer when securing an account.

Either you added a weak answer to the secret question, puzzel.me had a weak answer and you did not remove it or puzzel.me had an answer on the secret question, you did not remove it and hacked their account back.
10471  Other / Meta / Re: Is asking for a feedback is wrong on: May 13, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
It's not wrong to ask for feedback but one shouldn't demand it or have an exchange (if I give you feedback, you also need to give me feedback). There are many members who actually do that just to build up trust. One should leave feedback if he/she wishes to and in fact not when asked to leave. It's important to not leave feedback just after 1-2 trades as it hurts the trust system if the user abuses it and scams another member.
I would disagree with this. If one person took on zero risk in a transaction then it would be less appropriate to leave trust feedback while if money was risked then a positive rating is almost certainly appropriate. Even if only one trade was done then it would be appropriate to leave trust if money was risked while this would not be the case if no money was risked.

Anyone specifically trading with someone just for the trust that comes with the trade should not receive positive trust and is highly suspicious in my book.

You disagree with the bolded part?

If money was risked or not risked, it wouldn't be good to leave positive feedback IMHO as by leaving trusted feedback one is giving a guarantee that the person is trustworthy of having even a larger trade with more money at risk. Especially in virtual places like the internet, it's more risky as people take advantage of their feedback and I have seen the negatives already when one person scammed me on the second attempt. If a person has been proving to be reputed/trustworthy for quite a long time, then it would be worth and appropriate as well.

I have never even asked the people to give me feedback on this forum even though many have asked me to exchange feedback with them as I don't believe in it.
If you ask me to hold 5 BTC for you for safekeeping for a few weeks then at the end of the transaction it would be appropriate for you to leave a positive feedback for me. However if I were to leave positive feedback for you in that deal then it would be little more then me selling trust which is not something that should be done.

If no money is ever risked on someone then previous trades would show very little about how trustworthy that person is.
10472  Other / Meta / Re: Is asking for a feedback is wrong on: May 13, 2015, 01:26:14 PM
It's not wrong to ask for feedback but one shouldn't demand it or have an exchange (if I give you feedback, you also need to give me feedback). There are many members who actually do that just to build up trust. One should leave feedback if he/she wishes to and in fact not when asked to leave. It's important to not leave feedback just after 1-2 trades as it hurts the trust system if the user abuses it and scams another member.
I would disagree with this. If one person took on zero risk in a transaction then it would be less appropriate to leave trust feedback while if money was risked then a positive rating is almost certainly appropriate. Even if only one trade was done then it would be appropriate to leave trust if money was risked while this would not be the case if no money was risked.

Anyone specifically trading with someone just for the trust that comes with the trade should not receive positive trust and is highly suspicious in my book.
10473  Other / Meta / Re: Is asking for a feedback is wrong on: May 13, 2015, 12:50:30 PM
We don't actually have a trade feedback system; the reputation system that we use on the forum is a trust feedback system.

You are welcome to ask someone for positive trust after a trade however I think it would not be appropriate to expect trust after a trade, especially after a small trade or in cases when zero risk is taken.

Many people who get negative trust complain that I have never traded with them and should remove my negative trust. This is an invalid argument. 
10474  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS]Many things with BTCLend Escrow service on: May 13, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
BOO!  Negative trust for promoting a scam

You can use BTCLend Escrow service
this would probably be a bad idea. It would be better to use an on-forum escrow service.
10475  Economy / Auctions / Re: 2013 Lealana 1 BTC Silver + Gold Hologram MS-68 [Funded][Ends May 15 4PM EST] on: May 13, 2015, 12:39:41 PM
1.25
For clarification, this bid is accepted.   

Auction ends in 2 days at 4:00 PM eastern time (US).
10476  Economy / Services / Re: looking for escrow on: May 13, 2015, 05:43:28 AM
Since im limited for 5 pm per hour, i will reply to all who sent me a pm when i am able to. Thanks
I can help you out, I offer free and secure escrow services.  I've sent you a PM!
Quickseller is quick and has good reputation as well. But he charges 2.5% of fees. If you like, you can PM him!
I actually charge 1% with a .0075 BTC minimum. The minimum charge works out to be less then $2 worth of bitcoin, and IMO is well worth it as it will result in your money being protected

Even prior to being trusted and when I was using others' escrow services, I would always ensure that the escrow was compensated for their time as that is the right thing to do.
10477  Economy / Services / Re: Selling my signature space on: May 13, 2015, 05:18:36 AM
Bumping this thread. My current signature contract expires in ~2 days, at which point I will be willing to take additional offers regarding renting my signature.

Will they not be updating your contact then no? Be silly to let you go in my opinion, why not go back to Dadice they are the best paying with LP and the bonus you will achieve each week as you know. The 100 post restriction is not great for posters like yourself but the bonuses add up to it not really mattering?
I will more likely then not receive an offer from my current signature campaign for me to remain with them, however I wish to maximize my earnings potential and listen to bids from as high of a number of people as possible.
10478  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Have BTC, Need PayPal | ~$50 USD on: May 13, 2015, 03:24:13 AM
I have $15 worth of PayPal that I would be willing to sell for .062 BTC
10479  Other / Meta / Re: How can a hero account only have 99 posts? on: May 13, 2015, 01:29:19 AM
Sorry to bump a few day old thread, but the 2 week activity update just occurred and he's still a Hero member. Basically proves that although activity can decrease, a user's rank can't decrease, at least automatically.
I would be curious to see what happens if he were to make enough posts to become a full member.
10480  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Marketing and Promoting? or Scam? on: May 12, 2015, 06:56:01 PM
There is no reason why you should be accepting a business's deposits into your personal bank account. At best they are operating questionable accounting practices and laundering money through your bank account, more likely they are trying to scam you.

Anytime something sounds too good to be true it probably is.

If you take advantage of this "opportunity" there is a 99%+ chance of you ending up loosing money.

Do you have any idea why a company would trust some random person with their money in a way you are describing?
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