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10461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you measure the success of Bitcoin? on: November 28, 2018, 03:10:55 AM
I think we can see the success of bitcoin from the enthusiasm people to come and join into bitcoin although we don't know who they are. Besides that, people come to bitcoin by seeing the bitcoin price reach the highest price although right now the price is down too deep.

By using bitcoin, they can manage their own financial, and they can send and receive the money from everywhere without any third party, and people don't have to pay too much fee.

Bitcoin will reach more success if bitcoin can be accepted in all country, so people don't have to worry if they use bitcoin for making the payment of the product they bought. We will see what is happening in the future and I guess that bitcoin can bring a better life for every people.
10462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Funds.... on: November 28, 2018, 02:05:16 AM
I think you don't need to hurry to invest in the ICO as we see and know that every ICO now has been a delay because the crypto market is not stable. It is better to wait for a moment until the crypto market can recover while you can invest your money in altcoin which can give you another profit. I think right now it is better to use long-term investment in the ICO or the altcoin until the situations can be back to normal again. But I guess that you have a strategy to face this situation. Be careful if you want to invest in the ICO.
10463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: This Year Crypto Red Like a Blood on: November 28, 2018, 01:04:14 AM
Yes, I agree that this year, the crypto market is in the red like blood but I believe that soon, the crypto market will be back to normal and we can make a profit again. I think this year is the best time for new people and other people to invest their money in cryptocurrency because all of the coins reach the lowest price. Besides that, they can get a big discount for every coin in the market, so they only need to hold until the price is up again. And for bitcoin, it could get down for more if the support cannot hold on and the trend now still down.
10464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how long you can stay without gambling? on: November 27, 2018, 08:14:54 AM
Well i have never been more than an entire year without gambling, maybe that is because i am always doing it..

But for the last few months i tried to stop several times, but i am always ending up gambling with at least some money (not more than a hundred dollars)

But yes, for funny purposes only



Don't play gambling for a year? Wow, you must have a big control of yourself because not all people can stay without gambling for a year especially if they are always play gambling every day and it needs more than controlling yourself.

You know that playing gambling needs money and we cannot win from the game and even we will lose more money. So I agree that we are playing gambling just for fun and enjoy the game only without think about how to win the game and get the big money.
10465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A banking app helped me beat my addiction on: November 27, 2018, 06:30:38 AM
I think they have something that will help them to know the limitations for playing gambling, and the best is they can control how much money they want to use for the gambling game.
Control is something that we have to realize that an addicted gambler has lost already and for most people who know that already, how to gain that control back is something that they are eagerly looking for. I have seen a lot of gamblers try to visit shrinks, support groups and a lot of therapies just to be able to get out of it. As long as you are able to find something to control you when you cannot control yourself then it will always be of help until you are able to finally gain that control back, and this app of course sound like something that can be very helpful.

You are right, learning control ourselves is difficult, but we need to keep try because this can help us to prevent from greediness and we can also prevent from losing too much money. A gambler will know when the time to play and when the time to stop the game and leave the gambling places and this is because he can control himself from the gambling games itself. And if more people can control themselves in gambling games, then perhaps, the addicting person in gambling will also reduce.
10466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Make money with martingale applied to dice game ? on: November 27, 2018, 05:26:56 AM
This strategy will not work most of the time, a 20-25 loss betting is still keep you getting loose ad it is very risky to applied this method since most online dice casino has limitation on betting. Huge bankroll does not guarantee to have profit of this strategy.

Yes, unless that person has a big luck in the dice game. I am sure that in every gambling game, we can win the game if we have the best luck and I think we don't have to use any strategy to win the game because of we have a luck inside us. But maybe that person can win the game and I hope that he has a luck too. For me, to play the dice game, I don't need any strategy to win because my chance to win is not too big and I think I only get lost so it's better to enjoy the game only.

Luck won't come everytime. So even though a person has the luck while playing dice but if he is greed enough, don't want to stop while ahead, for sure the bad luck can occur and ruinned his balance. Luck itself won't help. The ability to control emotions/greed must be there as complementary.

Yes, there are many other things that we need to know when we were playing gambling. The greediness will come too besides the luck and always tempting us to continue the games and say that we can win in the next round. And if we are tempted then we will continue and finally, we cannot win the game but we are losing much money. Perhaps, martingale can gives winning to the person but he still needs to have luck because gambling does not depend on the strategy only.
10467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't Lose Hope Just Yet on: November 27, 2018, 04:26:31 AM
Losing hope will make us losing everything because we cannot survive in the hardest situations and we cannot wake from that loss. The situation will change, and it will not stay forever, I am sure that there will be good momentum for the cryptocurrency to rise and shine again. Although we don't know when it's happening, we need to have hope because with the hope, we can survive and we can pass the test. Bitcoin will reach the highest price in the future, and we need to hold on tight in every condition, and we need to remember what our goals when we enter the cryptocurrency.
10468  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Trading or Online betting? 2k Usd budget. on: November 27, 2018, 03:21:00 AM
Newbee here. Please guide me.

Which is more profitable in the long run, Crypto trading or online betting ?

Both have risks and their respective benefits, but only the methods are different. For those of me who don't like online betting, I immediately chose crypto trading, even though trading is now a little less expected because market conditions continue to decline, but at least we can avoid these losses by holding them back.
actually not supposed to be gambling compared to trade, yeah this is a personal perspective but I don't think gambling is a method of making money like trading. if you use gambling to make money, then you have to get ready for bankruptcy because nothing guarantees you can profit there, because you only depend on luck?

I think it's better to choose crypto trading than online betting. At least, if we buy some coin and the price is down, we still have a chance to see the price start to increase. But if we choose online betting, no matter how much we lose, we cannot recover our money, and once we lost, we will lose all of the money. Besides that, we need a luck factor on online gambling to win the money, and not all people can have luck in every game they've played. So you'd better think twice before you decide and don't use all the money you have because it's too risky.
10469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When is the best time to invest? on: November 27, 2018, 02:20:17 AM
This year is the best time to invest because, in the new year, every coin get a dump and in the middle of the year, the price still going down. Besides that, we could even try to make a profit because the price still changing from the lower price to a higher price and back to the lower price so we can try over and over. But I admitted that after the middle of this year, it's another best time to invest in crypto because we see the bottom of the price until this month and I hope that in the next year, we will see the rise of the cryptocurrency.
10470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how long you can stay without gambling? on: November 26, 2018, 06:34:23 AM
In a few weeks ago, I am trying to stay away from gambling, and I can do it although now I come back to the gambling site but not to play, to see if there is a new game to play. But if there is no new game, then I am trying to play dice game which is easy to play for me. But I still trying to not staying for a long time in the gambling site because it's easy for me to try to play the games and lose some money and I don't want it to get lost. I give my greetings to every people that can stay for a long time without gambling.
If you really want to save your money without restricting from going to gambling by lessening your bet amounts and the number of bets you were doing so you can be saved even if you lose some bets and try to control it on the games which can make you to realize the real intention of games and someday you also can get contented with the adrenaline and get stay away from gambling forever when you want.

I always use small money in the gambling game because I know that I don't have a good chance to win much money. While I gamble, I can control myself not to spend more money that I can afford, and I can stop in any time. I don't need to push myself to try more in the next round. And if I try to continue the game, I will lose more money. Besides that and I will leave the game if my money is almost run out. In the other days, I can hold myself to not playing gambling because I was doing another thing in my real life, so I don't have to visit the gambling site on that day if I don't have free time.
10471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Make money with martingale applied to dice game ? on: November 26, 2018, 05:02:15 AM
This strategy will not work most of the time, a 20-25 loss betting is still keep you getting loose ad it is very risky to applied this method since most online dice casino has limitation on betting. Huge bankroll does not guarantee to have profit of this strategy.

Yes, unless that person has a big luck in the dice game. I am sure that in every gambling game, we can win the game if we have the best luck and I think we don't have to use any strategy to win the game because of we have a luck inside us. But maybe that person can win the game and I hope that he has a luck too. For me, to play the dice game, I don't need any strategy to win because my chance to win is not too big and I think I only get lost so it's better to enjoy the game only.
10472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fiat or crypto betting in bear market? on: November 26, 2018, 04:00:56 AM
Want your opinion on this guys.

We are situated in a bear market for some time and with a huge crash happened the past 2 weeks.

Do you guys keep betting with crypto and stack your crypto profits or do you prefer to switch to fiat betting and convert fiat winnings in crypto?
Me personally I love to bet on sports, fiat as well as on crypto platforms. However during the crash I switched to betting on fiat bookies for 90% of my bets.
Profits i make at this moment with fiat bookies i use to buy crypto cause of the cheap prices. those converted profits i deposit on crypto bookies and try to make some profits in crypto as well.


Don't know you share the same strategy or rather stick to fiat and/or crypto bookie as you usually do.

With this market situation, the use of crypto in betting is better than fiat currency. The fiat currency now is not good because of the depression of the economy. So that I suggest you use cryptocurrency rather than fiat currency at this time.

Besides that, we need fiat to buy something for our real life and although we can use crypto to buy something too. But still, people in out there prefer to use fiat, and many of them don't know much about cryptocurrency. And if we use cryptocurrency, then we can choose the cheap coins to place the bets, so we only need to buy that coin in some amount, and we can get a large amount of that coin.
10473  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC - The unbeaten King on: November 26, 2018, 03:00:33 AM
So far, no other coin can beat bitcoin and bitcoin still in the top position at the cryptocurrency. But the second place and next place is always changing, and it depends on the people responsible. I guess that in the next year, this position will change again, but I don't know which coins that can take that position. With bitcoin in the top position, people still believe in bitcoin, and they still support bitcoin to be the biggest and the top coins at the cryptocurrency, and it means, bitcoin will recover to the higher price again.
10474  Economy / Economics / Re: Recent crash on: November 26, 2018, 01:57:43 AM
I think it's a deepest correction, and we need to see the price in the last year. In the last year, we are seeing the price increase very higher and makes people invest in the higher price and this makes a deep correction which is happening right now. I think this will continue to happen until the end of the year and in the new year, we will see a surprise from bitcoin. Besides that, people are not ready to see the deep correction and some of them are a new investor who needs more lesson about bitcoin. They only follow the trend without learning about bitcoin so they are stuck in the highest price and regret to buy bitcoin in the last year. But we all have a different opinion and we really don't know when it's over and we can only follow the price, make a buy and sell and try to make a profit.

We don't know is it healthy for the long-term or not but we will see the price back again soon and all we can do now is only waiting for the time to comes. But I hope that in the next month, bitcoin price will start to rise again and it slowly will break any higher price.
10475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you believe, Bitcoin To Drop As Low As $1500 This Year? on: November 26, 2018, 12:54:07 AM
We know that everything can be possible to happen in the cryptocurrency. And if the price drops to $1500-$2500 this year, then it's the bad situations that we ever see, and it might be a flash dump, and the price will bounce up. We have seen the flash dump happen in many exchanges, but it will not happen at the same time, and it's only happening in one or two exchange. But if the support cannot hold the price to stay at $3500, then the price will continue to get down, and we have to see the deepest of the bitcoin price.
10476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling addiction mainly due to loneliness and dissatisfaction? on: November 25, 2018, 09:20:06 AM
For some people, loneliness and dissatisfaction are because they cannot get what they want in their life and it's not related to the gambling addiction.
But there will be a person that playing gambling is like a problem solver of the loneliness and dissatisfaction in his life so he can feel that when he played the game, he will satisfy and he can feel that he is not alone because he found that other people are getting lost as him.

Thats a terrible way of being happy. Losing money to be happy is not something I would like even though thats true in gambling. I believe it happens as a side effect of gambling. They come in to make money only to lose their money.

However gamblers are generally the coked up weedlovers and not the nihilistic depressed kind. The former often crave for attention and thus end up making a mess in casino chatrooms. The later would rather stay from going to any public place. The average few depressed ones we see in chats are generally passive beggars.


I think it's not a terrible way of searching happiness from gambling as long as we can control ourselves in the game. I see that many of my friends still enjoy the games and no matter how much they've lost their money, they can feel happy, and sometimes they were yelling with louder if they're lost. I am sure that if we are not attracted deeper in the gambling games, and we know when to stop the game, I think we can get fun with the gambling games.

In the real casino, maybe we can see the end of the gambling can cause a mess, but it's not always happening. Although the gambler was losing their money, they can control themselves, and they can leave the gambling place with peace.
10477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fiat or crypto betting in bear market? on: November 25, 2018, 06:58:11 AM
It is better to use crypto, and I prefer to use altcoin than bitcoin because the altcoin price now is too low so I can buy a lot of altcoin amoung and use some of the amounts for betting. I don't want to use bitcoin because I want to try to increase my bitcoin amount by trading and since the altcoin price does not increase yet, it is better to save bitcoin or use bitcoin for trading. But perhaps, this time we need to stop for a while and only watching the crypto price at the market and not doing gambling.
10478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 25, 2018, 05:57:57 AM
It is not wrong if you are not harming anyone, in that case, that would be wrong.

But if you are not using other people's money, then you are gonna get in trouble, but that is obvious and i think that everybody knows that.

Gambling is a good way of entertainment also.

Who is using that for entertainment purpose,they are very rare to find and we can see only the people who is gambling to make money.And the gambling with our own money also get us in troble when we lost everything we have on our own.

Indeed most people gamble for money, but there are some people do it for fun only including me. I do gamble for fun only with limited money so although I lose it all then it wont give me any trouble. People get trouble because gambling means that they did it wrong and of course it is their own fault.

It's only a few people who use gambling as entertainment, and they search for the fun from the gambling. But we know that many people try to playing gambling because they want to know how it feels when they can win some money. It could be wrong if they cannot control themselves in the gambling game and they might lose much money, and in the end, they cannot get their money back and only regret that for what they've done.
10479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we still believe in Bitcoin? on: November 25, 2018, 04:57:23 AM
I still believe bitcoin, and if the price is down like today, I think it's only a big test for bitcoin and if bitcoin can survive, bitcoin will start to rise and will get an increase. Although some people don't believe that bitcoin can reach a higher price, bitcoin will give surprise to us like what we saw in 2017 ago. We now reach $3643 according to bittrex exchange, and it could get lower in the next few hours but we don't know what will happen later and bitcoin can bounce up at any time.
10480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull Run next monday 26/11/2018 on: November 25, 2018, 02:37:23 AM
I don't know what is his base to say that bull run will happen in next Monday because I see this day, the price got dump too hard, and it's back to $3,xxx level price. We don't know when the bull run will coming and I don't think that there is someone that can predict when it's happening. But I know that this time, I got very low price for buying bitcoin and it seems, I got a big discount to bought bitcoin Grin But if the bull run happens in the next Monday, then I will prepare myself to sell bitcoin at the highest price.
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