[22:53] <Clipse-b> Chaaang-Noi : did you get your payment ? [22:53] <Chaaang-Noi> no, but then again i just now asked [22:53] <Chaaang-Noi> and pirates not online
OK, he requested a withdrawal. That's different. It seems that bitcoinmax is the only outstanding interest payment from yesterday.
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The maximum deposit for new accounts at Starfish BCB appears to be 100 BTC now if that helps your decision process any.
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new accounts are also welcome, as is catering for the range of existing customers
I don't understand what that means. Are you simply saying that customers who currently have more than 100 BTC on deposit can keep it on deposit but not increase the amount?
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Goat hasn't been paid yet either.... Pirate is still asleep after his Vegas partying days ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Source?
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So Bitcoinmax has exposure equal to >100k BTC? Hmmm...
120k I think. And that's the whole BS&T account, which is probably bigger than just bitcoinmax.
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because maybe this time the re-investments weren't enough to pay the interest on the other BS&T accounts
But bitcoinmax always reinvests something, and a lot of the smaller BS&T lenders don't. So it would still make sense to pay out bitcoinmax first. btw... are you now saying this is a ponzi ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I personally don't know what it is. It looks a lot like a ponzi, but maybe there's some magic money-making business going on at BS&T that I don't understand. Whether BS&T is a ponzi or whether it's putting the borrowed bitcoins to work, it's plausible that it wouldn't have lots of spare coins sitting around waiting to be paid out on Mondays, so the delays in interest payment are explicable whether or not it's a ponzi. If I had to bet on whether it's a ponzi or not, I'd bet that it is. But I wouldn't be sure of winning.
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the bet probably helped the investment scheme more than hindered it...... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think it's safe to say that pirate wouldn't have taken the bet if it wasn't in his interest to do so. It's quite possible that both sides end up profiting from the bet.
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Bitcoinmax paid out interest but only accountingwise as nothing went in the blockchain ?
Mine at least has gone but never actually entered any block.
Whats about you guys?
payb.tc paid interest on paper, but not on the blockchain. pirate paid all his lenders except payb.tc. payb.tc can't and won't pay his lenders until pirate pays payb.tc. payb.tc has a lot of coins with pirate, and so gets a lot of interest each week. Pirate probably needs new investment before he can pay the interest. 10K BTC should cover it. the first wave of late payments is not a good sign if i had funds invested i would bail out now its pretty obvious that the people on the last couple of levels are not going to get their principal back never mind any interest Last week bitcoinmax was one of the first to be paid by BS&T. 59% of the interest paid to bitcoinmax was immediately reinvested in BS&T, and that reinvestment was then used to pay the interest on other BS&T accounts. I wonder why the same scheme wasn't used this week since it worked so well last week.
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So each time you win (97.4% of the time) you win 7, and each time you lose (2.6%) you lose 290.
Expected winnings per round: 0.974 * 7 - 0.026 * 290 = -0.722 BTC.
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Results: 2012-Jul-31 05:41am (up to block 191667)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 11727 | 0 (0.00000) | 11443 | 284 | 70.51 | 0.01 | 18.39 | 70.49 | 0.027 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 1100 | 0 (0.00000) | 1030 | 70 | 16.59 | 0.00 | 5.58 | 16.59 | 0.011 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 1649 | 0 (0.00000) | 1615 | 34 | 20.22 | 0.02 | 2.22 | 20.20 | 0.105 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 1357 | 1 (0.00076) | 1315 | 41 | 32.29 | 8.05 | 4.15 | 24.23 | 24.940 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 1666 | 1 (0.00061) | 1632 | 33 | 66.58 | 4.19 | 7.40 | 62.39 | 6.301 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 4082 | 2 (0.00049) | 4069 | 11 | 279.32 | 103.07 | 1.29 | 176.24 | 36.903 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 5848 | 8 (0.00137) | 5823 | 17 | 297.90 | 123.01 | 55.64 | 174.89 | 41.292 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 6852 | 17 (0.00250) | 6787 | 48 | 1287.05 | 1173.89 | 40.25 | 113.16 | 91.208 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 5958 | 29 (0.00488) | 5915 | 14 | 628.85 | 572.02 | 13.11 | 56.83 | 90.961 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 8998 | 65 (0.00723) | 8928 | 5 | 1750.86 | 1184.79 | 9.35 | 566.06 | 67.669 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 16619 | 252 (0.01517) | 16363 | 4 | 3629.95 | 3832.94 | 1.80 | -202.98 | 105.592 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 8971 | 210 (0.02342) | 8755 | 6 | 3256.52 | 3665.55 | 15.00 | -409.03 | 112.560 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 11697 | 365 (0.03121) | 11329 | 3 | 3649.33 | 3357.27 | 9.24 | 292.06 | 91.997 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 9032 | 433 (0.04798) | 8592 | 7 | 5311.40 | 6811.54 | 24.99 | -1500.13 | 128.244 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 10248 | 634 (0.06188) | 9611 | 3 | 3575.44 | 3172.49 | 31.20 | 402.95 | 88.730 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 17084 | 1616 (0.09464) | 15459 | 9 | 9088.32 | 9238.60 | 7.01 | -150.28 | 101.654 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 38621 | 4760 (0.12330) | 33846 | 15 | 7039.38 | 6264.99 | 0.00 | 774.39 | 88.999 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 17365 | 3299 (0.19005) | 14060 | 6 | 7001.71 | 7185.66 | 14.50 | -183.95 | 102.627 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 46642 | 11324 (0.24283) | 35310 | 8 | 16403.84 | 17048.85 | 347.79 | -645.01 | 103.932 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 34622 | 12801 (0.37009) | 21788 | 33 | 15767.49 | 15741.53 | 212.63 | 25.96 | 99.835 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 335284 | 163400 (0.48756) | 171738 | 146 | 119644.56 | 120425.86 | 2173.21 | -781.29 | 100.653 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 138387 | 69061 (0.49936) | 69238 | 88 | 56947.27 | 55087.39 | 789.20 | 1859.87 | 96.734 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 105554 | 77665 (0.73620) | 27830 | 59 | 94244.00 | 92818.72 | 467.98 | 1425.27 | 98.488 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 2292 | 1846 (0.80541) | 446 | 0 | 5784.23 | 6010.50 | 0.00 | -226.26 | 103.912 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 1930 | 1643 (0.85218) | 285 | 2 | 1743.37 | 1781.45 | 0.00 | -38.08 | 102.185 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 629 | 576 (0.92013) | 50 | 3 | 387.55 | 378.12 | 0.00 | 9.42 | 97.569 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 6068 | 5812 (0.97878) | 126 | 130 | 5171.38 | 4974.11 | 239.20 | 197.27 | 96.185 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 850282 | 355820 | 493383 | 1079 | 363096.05 | 360964.73 | 4491.23 | 2131.32 | 99.413 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 2131.32716038 BTC (0.587%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 428.11210000 BTC SD Profit after fees: 1703.21506038 BTC (0.469%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 2599109 : SatoshiDice Tx: 1565771 (60.2%) Blockchain MB: 1094.2 : SatoshiDice Tx: 643.7 (58.8%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx1N6z.png&t=663&c=4qITJPMGhEPZPw)
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What if pirate and vandroiy were the same person ?
he could silence his loudest and most vocal critic for free while winning the confidence of hundreds of new investors with a 5000/5000 win/win bet for himself
Except that Vandroiy didn't shut up after the bet...
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Bitcoinmax paid out interest but only accountingwise as nothing went in the blockchain ?
Mine at least has gone but never actually entered any block.
Whats about you guys?
payb.tc paid interest on paper, but not on the blockchain. pirate paid all his lenders except payb.tc. payb.tc can't and won't pay his lenders until pirate pays payb.tc. payb.tc has a lot of coins with pirate, and so gets a lot of interest each week. Pirate probably needs new investment before he can pay the interest. 10K BTC should cover it.
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- addr 12oiay6fiaFhHU2sPeCad18Myr5nHJzgGa (last line) has a closure size of about 200K addresses ... and taints the fat address like crazy (86%) . Very much looks like some sort of feeble attempt at laundering.
That large closure is MtGox. My MtGox deposit address is in the same closure.
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So it's JavaScript it means it is client side computing no private key is transmitted over the internet?
That is correct. Run it offline as a further assurance. It's a single file too - all the graphics, css, scripting are part of the main HTML file. So just save the page to a USB stick and take it to an offline machine to generate your offline keys & brain wallets.
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Even if it doesn't work, or isn't profitable, maybe it's effective as a denial of service attack against the site, polluting their wallet with transactions which will never confirm.
Good and interesting point, time for me to go read up on double spend attacks some more and the results of one on a victims wallet. Well, SD pays out unconfirmed bets. When your bet loses, you get 0.5% of it back, and the other 99.5% goes into their wallet as change, and is used to pay out the winning bets. If the wallet has lots of old confirmed change from losing bets, that's fine, but what if the only coins available in the wallet are unconfirmed change from losing bets? When you win, and they pay you out with unconfirmed change from other people's losing bets, it's possible that at least one of those losing bets was double-spent and never confirms. That means the 0.5% returned payment never confirms, and so neither does the change you were paid with. That in turns means your winning payment won't confirm. I don't know how you fix that, but I'm guessing it requires manual intervention.
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I tested that you cannot import a private key without knowing the walletpassphrase.
The client needs to know the passphrase in order to encrypt the private keys - that's why you can't add a private key if the wallet is locked. It's too bad there isn't an option to tell it not to check the blockchain. For newly created keys that's not needed and it takes so much time.
I just comment out these two lines in src/rpcdump.cpp: pwalletMain->ScanForWalletTransactions(pindexGenesisBlock, true); pwalletMain->ReacceptWalletTransactions(); Then you can import keys really quickly. Since you've probably just generated the private keys anyway using bitaddress.org it's a real waste of time to scan the blockchain for transactions to and from the keys. I need to restart bitcoin-qt after importing a batch of keys for the keys to show up in the 'receive coins' tab, but that's much better than having to wait for a full rescan after each importprivkey.
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We're very grateful for all the feedback and bug reports you've sent us Dooglus. We added an extra BTC to your account as a way to say thanks for all the help you've given us.
Thanks for that! I wasn't sure whether to report that one or not since it took such special timing to provoke. I guess I'll keep reporting everything that bugs me... Edit: is there some way I can get rid of the odd .62 uBTC in my account? I don't seem to be able to bet it or withdraw it. It looks like I deposited it, so I guess I can deposit the matching .38 uBTC to make it go away. How about letting people set 'satoshi' as their base unit, along with BTC, cBTC, mBTC and uBTC, with the understanding that they'll lose due to rounding if they get a blackjack after betting an odd amount? (Or maybe just I shouldn't deposit such silly amounts) Another thing: I was running low at the table, and wanted to re-buy, using the button I hadn't noticed before and which you pointed out in your previous post. I clicked the 'Buy In' button, and nothing happened for a few seconds. The button hadn't changed ('buying in...') and the dialog hadn't gone away, so there was no way I could know whether the click had registered or not. It had, and it appears after trying it again that the button's border flashes when I click it, but I missed that the first time. It would be better if something permanently changed to let me know that it was waiting for the network, not for me.
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Oops, you're right. Apologies, I forgot about that part. I'll try to clean the code and push sometimes today.
Great. The first time I ran the taint script you just published, it ran for half an hour before I realised what was up. I modified the 'cluster' routine so it would cluster the blockchain then prompt in a loop for the address to cluster, making it much faster if you want to cluster multiple addresses. So it was just sat there prompting, but with the prompt redirected to the output file so I didn't see it. Doh!
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D&T is a respected member of the community who falls into the "brilliant" category when it comes down to mathematics and mining. you have to at least respect his opinion.
I remember this argument he had with hashcoin on the subject of quantum computing. I thought that D&T was wrong throughout the argument, but I'm no expert. It just kind of ended with neither side coming around to the other's point of view. Can you imagine??
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I meant the other way... how much is the pirate closure tainting say the receiving addresses of the last 10 transactions (or 10 random transactions since we are getting close to his weekly payout time)?
Feel free to use the block parser to gather you own stats and reach your own conclusions ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) $ ./parser taint file:PIRATE-SPENDS fatal: file:PIRATE-SPENDS is not a valid TX hash Aborted (core dumped) It seems like github doesn't have your newest version. I don't think it has the ability to load keys from a file for the 'taint' command in the version you published...
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