Oh and yeah, happy to have bought at the dip. I know it went even below a dollar but I'm very happy to have taken it at just over 1.15. Centralized yes, but have people already forgotten about how centralized ETH was and still is? And look at it grow. Perhaps there is something to be said about corporate greed and centralized leadership. I may not hold Ripple for years, but I suspect even a year can see reasonable gains. And by reasonable I definitely don't mean even more than double! Still a realist here.

New information? No of course it isn't important for you to know. Just rely on old information <sarcastic>.

More seriously, however, be careful with information. There's very little now that is actually useful in information, specially in crypto where everything is either hype or FUD. Sometimes even developers just push out nonsense these days to make it look like a big update when nothing really happened.

Misinformation is worse than information.

I don't think it's unfair at all... if you use the service, it's going to be painful but it is an eventuality. I myself do want to migrate, but unfortunately if I do so, none of the services I use can withdraw to SegWit. So I'm putting it off until ONE of them has it at least and I really want that to happen quickly. If BitDice does it, it can be one of the very first crypto casinos to do so - and the benefits are long term.


Exactly! I don't know if all wallets will work, but mine definitely will. In fact, I might even use it as my withdrawal address for the signature campaign

What I really really can't get is how you guys can just live in denial. Everything that BCC blatantly puts out that doesn't look anything like crypto is just accepted by all of you. Ponzi, pyramid, crazy MLM style talks. all this isn't just smoke and mirrors, they're practically screaming in your face that they're a pyramid scheme. But you all just go deeper and deeper.

Please, for the sake of all newcomers, don't give your money away to these guys. Do a simple due diligence on Google.

What a time to be witnessing! People believing and even supporting the might of corporations and multinationals and big bankers... right here in the so-called bed of decentralization. If all of you guys take a look at the reasons you think this is a good coin, then you might as well join something like Bitconnect, or hire a group of big money people to run a coin.

I'm not saying IOT Chain is shit at all mind you. I merely am saying that there doesn't seem to be much faith in decentralized projects anymore. Why is that?

I've actually just been reading a couple of articles that are already showing companies who are almost in the final stages of trial runs using blockchain tech (not crypto, though). Most are reporting overwhelming success, especially in lowering costs and reducing inefficiences. We're talking about oil and gas, mining (real metals not crypto) and even logistics. So yeah, even if crypto dies, blockchain will remain. By 2020, almost every industry will already be trying out blockchain solutions.

That has happened, briefly last night, I missed it! I bought quite a bit of one very special alt coin I don't wish to mention (haha) but will share later once the jinx period's gone. Wish I could have been awake when BTC went down below 10k, since I saw all alts also fell to very low floors. Nevertheless, still happy I made that buy, and very happy for the opportunity provided by this correction.

Definitely still a few more dips to eat into, so maybe I'll run out of BTC to buy into alts.

Very early days! I did make a small buy into a coin I don't have yet, but since I plan to hold, I'm not so concerned if this corrections isn't over yet. But if anyone is thinking to buy now for a quick profit next week, I would provide strong caution. We are still on very unstable ground, Definitely need to step on something a bit more solid before the market can figure out where to go next. And it could still eventually decide to go even further down, too.

That said, long term holders should find this price levels very attractive.

Pretty old and recycled theory. I think there has been a lot of evidence, maybe not enough proof yet but there is more research that indeed finds some behaviors of manipulation going on in exchanges, especially since early adopters held a lot of coins, big enough, if working in groups, to make price movements desirable for them. I think a lot of the whales made profit since November, and now they are preparing this crash so they can buy back into crypto even more. Imagine all the Tethers waiting to buy now.

I suppose we will either have to thank you or curse you, but I've a feeling the time for anon coins have not really come upon us yet. Will bookmark and read for later... hopefully.

I don't know about DeepOnion everyone's talking about here. Half the posts about them scream scam, half are shills, but I suppose that also surrounded Dash last year, so I can't write anything off at the moment.

Curious to see if XSPEC is a value buy now. Everything is "cheap".

You saw the wrong news I guess. South Korea is restricting Bitcoin (and cryptocurrency) but we have known it for many months. And the government keeps clarifying that this isn't a ban, just a regulatory move. I think they are doing what they can to protect their citizens, and soon will follow in the footsteps of Japan. There was a lot of bad news there due to scammers last year. So crypto has a bad name there. Hacks, scams, fake Bitcoin forks.

People panic as usual. That let's us buy in cheap, so no complaints.

That's right, after all. Sure, some alts will have their own booms every few months, but after they do that, their price after all only relies on how well Bitcoin performs. So when alt holders come out and say Bitcoin is dead - Bitcoin Cash for example is the worst - they have to realize that the entire crypto market depends on Bitcoin. If it rises, so will alts, if it falls, then alts naturally fall. So whatever people want to say about Bitcoin, dominance this, use that, tech not good, just remember where all alts came from. Where all cryptocurrency is born. That is with Bitcoin, where else?

It's actually happened a lot. The only reason many ICO tokens are now trading above their initial listing price is simply because of Bitcoin value going up so much. But if you look at how most people entered ICOs, that is through Bitcoin price, and most tokens are STILL below the price people invested. In other words, if they had simply held their Bitcoins and bought tokens AFTER they were listed, they would have had a lot more tokens. Same with ETH and that's why you see a lot of people regretting ICOs.

You'd be surprised to learn that a LOT of these so-called third generation blockchain coins have actually been around for years, many of them unknown to the majority of us. I myself only recently learnt about Aidos Kuneen, and only because of a gambling website that started accepting it! Had no idea DAG coins were 3rd generation, I did wonder where did 2nd generation go, and is it so soon to have 3 generations in less than ten years? Or in fact even less since DAG has been around for even three years.

So hard to say the future. All I can generally see is a small handful of projects SOLVING existing problems. The rest say there are problems but I don't see how they can solve it.

And er, open source? That's most crypto on Github...

Rebellious in name, but not in nature. Nothing differentiated it from others like it, and you can clearly see what happened after listing on Bit-Z. They gave away too many easy bounties (nothing different, same as others) and they got dumped hard thanks to the airdrop. Very, very difficult to judge airdrop coins these days, in my opinion. Sure, they're "Free" but you want a coin like Byteball where people actually use them and it sees unique development, not airdrop people waiting for listings and releasing as soon as they can. What's the point?

I took the very first option last year, but the background of that is I entered the storm after it looked like it couldn't get any worse. Meaning, I bought what I thought were bottom prices. I was wrong, and I held coins that even made me lose in 60% deficits. So I became a bag holder, unwilling to lose 60%. Last month, everything changed and over the course of 2 weeks I made back investments and kept altcoins leftover from liquidating.

Will that tactic work again? I'm not sure right now, coins have dropped but not even as cheap as when I entered many of them.

Right on about that last thing. No trader ever quits. It's an addiction isn't it?

Yes, I hope this thread can be followed and updated. But look at the huge drops today, almost all my coins are below by 20%, so taking a look at this list, safe to say that any one who buys them right now can look to profit in a couple of months. I'm pretty tempted to go in too, I had to wait five or six months on my last buy in to make profits but I feel that is worth the risk. I will wait a couple days more to see what happens. Probably an even lower day tomorrow since markets are taking time to react, and more selling is bound to follow. Then we have incredible bargains mid week.

Phew. Makes me feel good about selling off some alt positions at small profit. Bitcoin lost quite a bit of value but at least I managed to stave off worst losses by selling alts into Bitcoin since selling them into any other alts would have been worst at the moment. The big winners should be those who sold to pegged currencies, but then I never trust Steem dollars or Tether especially. Thinking that this is an excellent time to buy in, but I probably should wait a little more to see if things get worse for even better bargains.

This is too easy. I'd take 90 of the top 100 coins and invest $1,000 in each. The remaining $10,000 I will split up equally, and invest into ten new ICOs OR tokens below Top 200, with some intensive due diligence to back that up, of course.

Except Bitconnect and whichever coins I eventually find out are pyramid/ponzi/scams, of course.

Tell me that's not 100% fool proof, but almost surely to at worst maintain fiat value after end of 2018.

So, just catching up on this thread. Yes, I'm one of those who managed to stay away from Dash and am now reconsidering my position, just as I did with ETH, and just as I currently am with NEO. With the news of DASH getting accepted on Visa seeming to be the most important recent update, what has happened with the new Visa changes than have forced them to drop crypto? How come I can't find any update on this, is it because DASH hasn't been affected at all?