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10721  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: Aye Aye Captain on: July 19, 2012, 08:52:07 AM
Uhm... he might be manipulating a lot of things. He it not about to get burnt though.

I he continue to trade against the market, he will.

The point is that he's not going to get burnt because it's not his coins he's playing with.
10722  Economy / Speculation / Re: reeses, jcpham, and smoothie's futures contract (split from #bitcoin IRC log) on: July 19, 2012, 07:26:18 AM
I'm not clear - does smoothie have the option to buy at $11 at the end of October, or the obligation to do so?  i.e. can he elect to just pay the 25% and not take the coins without breaking terms of the contract?
10723  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Real Time Charting, Order Book, and Time & Sales on: July 19, 2012, 07:01:40 AM
The 10/21 EMAs are now plotted on bitcoin.clarkmoody.com, by the way.

In this picture:



both lines are higher than all the prices in all 14 time periods.  How can that be, given that one of the lines is a 10 period EMA?  The average shouldn't be higher than all 10 of the preceeding highs should it?
10724  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: July 19, 2012, 06:09:17 AM
Oh good call!  I haven't run valgrind on the C++ codebase in months!  Since I've changed so much of the underlying code since then, I should probably check it again.

I hope you find something.  I haven't yet experienced any crashes, but many other users have, and I'm hoping they're all related to the same thing...

Do you have a 'suppressions' file from when you ran it before?  There are usually a bunch of memory read/write errors in the libraries you link with which need suppressing before you can notice the errors in your own code.
10725  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu - 60BTC guarantee tournament Sunday on: July 19, 2012, 06:01:25 AM
My player didn't like the m3u link, but this worked for me:

  http://radio.donkdown.com:8000/radio

Point your audio player there if you can't listen any other way.

I carried on listening and found out what 'itgrowsbackfast' was a reference to.  And wished I hadn't...
10726  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: July 19, 2012, 05:57:37 AM
Something seems to be going wrong with the blockchain.info database.

Searching for transaction 32c43975286013906f49f76f9403788616fc36cfcb0f6542449d93f7eac5a96f shows me a page saying that it was "Included in blocks   189704 (2012-07-18 21:16:19 +2 minutes)" but has "Confirmations:   0 confirmations".  The transaction was to my gox account, and showed up there hours ago.  Gox requires 6 confirmations.

http://blockchain.info/search?search=32c43975286013906f49f76f9403788616fc36cfcb0f6542449d93f7eac5a96f

I took a screenshot showing the incorrect page, along with recent block numbers.  Notice the weird "recent transaction" with a time thousands of hours ago.

10727  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: {ANNOUNCEMENT} WBX Exchange Frozen on: July 19, 2012, 05:35:52 AM
I have the address of Andre's new business.

Progressive Security Services Pty Ltd
208 Herses Rd
Eagleby QLD 4207

I think he's running it from his home.



Do you have an email address for him?  He's not replying to any of the ones I have.
10728  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Real Time Charting, Order Book, and Time & Sales on: July 19, 2012, 01:00:31 AM
I am assuming that is days and not hours?

On the hourly chart it's hours.  On the daily chart it's days.

Can you guess what it is on the 15 minute chart?  Wink
10729  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: July 18, 2012, 10:57:41 PM
Despite increasing the maximum bets far in excess of safe levels, SatoshiDice appears to be prospering:

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Results: 2012-Jul-18 03:50pm (up to block 189712)

   Address  Target   Should Win |    #Bets |       Win        |  Lose  | Refunds |   BTC In   |  BTC Out   |  Refund  |   Profit  |   RTP 
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 1dice1e6p       1      0.00002 |     9763 |      0 (0.00000) |   9495 |     268 |      45.20 |       0.01 |    16.20 |     45.18 |   0.043
 1dice1Qf4       2      0.00003 |      978 |      0 (0.00000) |    909 |      69 |       7.76 |       0.00 |     5.38 |      7.76 |   0.023
 1dice2pxm       4      0.00006 |     1489 |      0 (0.00000) |   1457 |      32 |      13.08 |       0.00 |     1.22 |     13.08 |   0.043
 1dice2vQo       8      0.00012 |     1274 |      0 (0.00000) |   1235 |      39 |      17.66 |       0.00 |     3.65 |     17.66 |   0.027
 1dice2WmR      16      0.00024 |     1465 |      0 (0.00000) |   1435 |      30 |      22.83 |       0.01 |     6.60 |     22.82 |   0.074
 1dice2xkj      32      0.00049 |     3384 |      1 (0.00030) |   3372 |      11 |     105.80 |     100.40 |     1.29 |      5.40 |  94.892
 1dice2zdo      64      0.00098 |     5157 |      7 (0.00136) |   5133 |      17 |     206.72 |     121.68 |    55.64 |     85.03 |  58.865
 1dice37Ee     128      0.00195 |     6237 |     14 (0.00226) |   6175 |      48 |    1232.90 |    1143.24 |    40.25 |     89.65 |  92.728
 1dice3jkp     256      0.00391 |     4557 |     21 (0.00462) |   4523 |      13 |     489.86 |     332.02 |    13.11 |    157.83 |  67.780
 1dice4J1m     512      0.00781 |     6748 |     42 (0.00623) |   6701 |       5 |    1454.17 |     580.09 |     9.35 |    874.08 |  39.891
 1dice5wwE    1000      0.01526 |    10304 |    150 (0.01456) |  10152 |       2 |    2019.40 |    1587.57 |     1.80 |    431.82 |  78.616
 1dice61SN    1500      0.02289 |     6894 |    160 (0.02323) |   6728 |       6 |    2902.34 |    3248.48 |    15.00 |   -346.13 | 111.926
 1dice6DPt    2000      0.03052 |     7490 |    241 (0.03219) |   7246 |       3 |    3198.97 |    2894.17 |     9.24 |    304.79 |  90.472
 1dice6gJg    3000      0.04578 |     6874 |    345 (0.05024) |   6522 |       7 |    4764.14 |    6307.82 |    24.99 |  -1543.67 | 132.402
 1dice6GV5    4000      0.06104 |     7351 |    471 (0.06410) |   6877 |       3 |    2692.04 |    2457.87 |    31.20 |    234.16 |  91.301
 1dice6wBx    6000      0.09155 |    14075 |   1314 (0.09339) |  12756 |       5 |    8496.21 |    8654.54 |     7.01 |   -158.33 | 101.864
 1dice6YgE    8000      0.12207 |    27804 |   3461 (0.12448) |  24343 |       0 |    6016.42 |    5302.27 |     0.00 |    714.14 |  88.130
 1dice7EYz   12000      0.18311 |    16079 |   3045 (0.18944) |  13029 |       5 |    6635.17 |    6767.86 |    14.50 |   -132.69 | 102.000
 1dice7fUk   16000      0.24414 |    41919 |  10156 (0.24232) |  31756 |       7 |   13114.08 |   12701.42 |    97.79 |    412.66 |  96.853
 1dice7W2A   24000      0.36621 |    31314 |  11597 (0.37072) |  19685 |      32 |   13187.71 |   13193.53 |   212.63 |     -5.82 | 100.044
 1dice8EMZ   32000      0.48828 |   296595 | 144484 (0.48735) | 151984 |     127 |   91139.54 |   92043.78 |  2173.21 |   -904.23 | 100.992
 1dice97EC   32768      0.50000 |   125771 |  62715 (0.49894) |  62981 |      75 |   44818.55 |   43094.93 |   789.20 |   1723.61 |  96.154
 1dice9wcM   48000      0.73242 |    86671 |  63756 (0.73598) |  22871 |      44 |   58530.48 |   57085.16 |   467.98 |   1445.32 |  97.531
 1dice9wVt   64000      0.97656 |     5773 |   5524 (0.97839) |    122 |     127 |    5010.39 |    4817.57 |   239.20 |    192.81 |  96.152
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                                |   725966 | 307504           | 417487 |     975 |  266121.55 |  262434.54 |  4236.52 |   3687.00 |  98.615
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SD Profit before fees:       3687.00665526 BTC (1.385%)
Cumulative Fees Paid:         365.44077500 BTC
SD Profit after fees:        3321.56588026 BTC (1.248%)
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Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been:
Blockchain Tx:  2189111  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 1342999  (61.3%)
Blockchain MB:  926.2  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 550.7  (59.5%)

10730  Economy / Gambling / Re: StrikeSapphire: New 50% Cashback Bonus, or 10% Cashback FREE. on: July 18, 2012, 10:20:48 PM
Got mine too.  Withdrawals never took more than an hour I don't think.
10731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it possible to send BTC to an address that doesn't exist? on: July 18, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
Would you need the original private key to spend the coins, or just any private key that ultimately hashes to the address?

You don't need the original private key to spend payments to a bitcoin address.  Any private key with the same bitcoin address will work.

We can see this by looking at the script on a random recent transaction.  In order to spend the 50 BTC output of that transaction, we need to provide an input such that this script is satisfied:

OP_DUP OP_HASH160 f88b720031b65505f853bce809d4f4641744d2ae OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG

ie. we need to put two values on the stack, one of which is a public key which has a hash160 of f88b720031b65505f853bce809d4f4641744d2ae, and the other of which is the signature obtained when signing the spending transaction with the corresponding private key.

At no point is there anything to distinguish the sender's private key - all we can see is the 160 bit hash of the sender's public key and so any suitable private key will do.
10732  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: July 18, 2012, 09:41:58 PM
Incidentally, when I modified the Makefile in cppForSwig/ my editor complained that lines 23 and 73 were "suspicious".  Both those lines contain only a single tab character.  Tab is significant in Makefiles, so it's probably better to delete those two tabs.
10733  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: July 18, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
And then you have to run "gdb python" because you actually have to debug python in order to hit the stack trace.  So you "gdb python" to get into GDB.  Then you type "run" to start debugging python.  Then you type "import sample_armory_code".  Then the stack trace will extend into the C++ code.  Not to mention, once it's compiled in debug the C++ will provide a little more output.

I've just been doing "gdb python" then "run sample_armory_code.py".  That should be enough, right?  gdb's "run" command takes arguments and passes them to the process it's debugging - in this case "python".

As predicted the crash is no longer happening of course...

When I get my faster laptop back from having it repaired I'll try running it using valgrind.  That usually finds the source of intermittent crashes.
10734  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info - Bitcoin Block explorer & Currency Statistics on: July 18, 2012, 07:54:11 PM
Is this the right thread for discussing blockchain.info's wallet service?

I was just trying to answer [uri=http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4198/how-can-i-retrieve-my-bitcoins-when-the-client-crashes-as-soon-as-it-begins-sync]this question[/url] by suggesting that they sign up for blockchain.info's wallet service, add the address as a 'watch only' address, and then when they want to spend from it, it will prompt for the private key.

In writing the answer I wanted to give step-by-step signup instructions, so I signed up for a new wallet to see how that works these days.  I tried 3 or 4 times and every time I got stuck at the "proceed to login" button that appears after typing the password and captcha, and optionally typing an email address and nickname.  I would click the "proceed to login" button and nothing would happen.  I tried in chromium and firefox and got the same result every time.  I just tried again now, and it's working again.

Hmmm.
10735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shedding a little light on: July 18, 2012, 07:35:05 PM
I notice that 1113qRXdSA3Sdioib76mGSv9cfUYTY3xn is in a cluster of 191939 addresses.  It seems to be the combination of many different wallets.  Are you aware of a mixing service which would cause this to happen?

Very many transactions per day, probably connected to an exchange or a bot,
or - indeed - a mixing service, but like I said, if the latter, there's a pretty
clear design flaw.

Final stats:

    transactions  = 819575
    received      = 45598656.77083801
    spent         = 45583929.40176545
    balance       =    14727.36907256

Wallet controls at least BTC 15K . Nice chunk of change.

So it's possible that this is MtGox's 'hot wallet'.

The reason I said I seemed to be many wallets mixed together is that it contains at least 5 of the addresses which receive interest from BS&T each week.  But it's quite possible that those 5 people have given MtGox deposit addresses as their BS&T interest payment address.
10736  Economy / Gambling / Re: StrikeSapphire: New 50% Cashback Bonus, or 10% Cashback FREE. on: July 18, 2012, 07:07:41 PM
another great addition to an already very very nice bitcoin casino  Cool

I like playing there , their player support is really top and their freerolls are much more fun then at seals

Josh and co really did a great job creating a complete and fair bitcoin casino

I hope it will attract more players in the future, because they really deserve this

Keep up the good work guys  Wink


Just don't win too much or report too many bugs in the software or you might be abused by the owner and banned from the site.
10737  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: July 18, 2012, 06:36:06 PM

So I say 1/1000 because I think a blkfile-write and blkfile-open have to occur at the same time.   The hypothesis is further supported by the fact that I have seen a curious segfault once in the past month similar, and you are the only other report of it (and I open Armory like 50x per day!)

Please let me know if it happens again!  

I ran my modified copy of sample_armory_code.py twice today.  Both times it failed with "Segmentation fault".  I've not modified the C++ code at all.

I'm now running it in gdb to hopefully get a stack trace for you, though in my experience running it in gdb is often enough to stop the crash from happening.
10738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shedding a little light on: July 18, 2012, 06:08:01 PM
Thanks for the code znort - I'm impressed by how fast it is.

I notice that 1113qRXdSA3Sdioib76mGSv9cfUYTY3xn is in a cluster of 191939 addresses.  It seems to be the combination of many different wallets.  Are you aware of a mixing service which would cause this to happen?
10739  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Satoshi Dice -- Statistical Analysis on: July 17, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
Quote
Results: 2012-Jul-17 11:39am (up to block 189537)

   Address  Target   Should Win |    #Bets |       Win        |  Lose  | Refunds |   BTC In   |  BTC Out   |  Refund  |   Profit  |   RTP  
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 1dice1e6p       1      0.00002 |     8980 |      0 (0.00000) |   8712 |     268 |      38.08 |       0.01 |    16.20 |     38.06 |   0.051
 1dice1Qf4       2      0.00003 |      976 |      0 (0.00000) |    907 |      69 |       7.71 |       0.00 |     5.38 |      7.71 |   0.023
 1dice2pxm       4      0.00006 |     1487 |      0 (0.00000) |   1455 |      32 |      13.03 |       0.00 |     1.22 |     13.03 |   0.043
 1dice2vQo       8      0.00012 |     1259 |      0 (0.00000) |   1220 |      39 |      17.48 |       0.00 |     3.65 |     17.48 |   0.027
 1dice2WmR      16      0.00024 |     1463 |      0 (0.00000) |   1433 |      30 |      22.78 |       0.01 |     6.60 |     22.77 |   0.074
 1dice2xkj      32      0.00049 |     3382 |      1 (0.00030) |   3370 |      11 |     105.75 |     100.40 |     1.29 |      5.35 |  94.938
 1dice2zdo      64      0.00098 |     5142 |      7 (0.00137) |   5118 |      17 |     206.32 |     121.68 |    55.64 |     84.63 |  58.980
 1dice37Ee     128      0.00195 |     6231 |     14 (0.00226) |   6169 |      48 |    1232.64 |    1143.24 |    40.25 |     89.39 |  92.747
 1dice3jkp     256      0.00391 |     4554 |     21 (0.00462) |   4520 |      13 |     489.79 |     332.02 |    13.11 |    157.77 |  67.788
 1dice4J1m     512      0.00781 |     6743 |     42 (0.00623) |   6696 |       5 |    1451.62 |     580.08 |     9.35 |    871.54 |  39.961
 1dice5wwE    1000      0.01526 |     9926 |    145 (0.01461) |   9779 |       2 |    2009.40 |    1586.97 |     1.80 |    422.43 |  78.977
 1dice61SN    1500      0.02289 |     6888 |    160 (0.02325) |   6722 |       6 |    2900.58 |    3248.48 |    15.00 |   -347.89 | 111.994
 1dice6DPt    2000      0.03052 |     7484 |    240 (0.03208) |   7241 |       3 |    3198.76 |    2892.58 |     9.24 |    306.18 |  90.428
 1dice6gJg    3000      0.04578 |     6834 |    343 (0.05024) |   6484 |       7 |    4753.10 |    6300.69 |    24.99 |  -1547.59 | 132.560
 1dice6GV5    4000      0.06104 |     7316 |    467 (0.06386) |   6846 |       3 |    2679.37 |    2428.34 |    31.20 |    251.03 |  90.631
 1dice6wBx    6000      0.09155 |    14047 |   1311 (0.09336) |  12731 |       5 |    8490.42 |    8643.85 |     7.01 |   -153.43 | 101.807
 1dice6YgE    8000      0.12207 |    26734 |   3323 (0.12430) |  23411 |       0 |    5928.24 |    5217.30 |     0.00 |    710.93 |  88.008
 1dice7EYz   12000      0.18311 |    16004 |   3032 (0.18951) |  12967 |       5 |    6614.67 |    6748.01 |    14.50 |   -133.34 | 102.016
 1dice7fUk   16000      0.24414 |    41485 |  10041 (0.24208) |  31437 |       7 |   12997.67 |   12587.37 |    97.79 |    410.29 |  96.843
 1dice7W2A   24000      0.36621 |    30756 |  11384 (0.37052) |  19340 |      32 |   13072.95 |   13065.38 |   212.63 |      7.56 |  99.942
 1dice8EMZ   32000      0.48828 |   293350 | 142930 (0.48744) | 150293 |     127 |   89781.53 |   90624.37 |  2173.21 |   -842.83 | 100.939
 1dice97EC   32768      0.50000 |   122830 |  61255 (0.49900) |  61501 |      74 |   43565.84 |   42262.09 |   789.20 |   1303.74 |  97.007
 1dice9wcM   48000      0.73242 |    84466 |  62126 (0.73590) |  22296 |      44 |   52384.72 |   50767.66 |   467.98 |   1617.06 |  96.913
 1dice9wVt   64000      0.97656 |     5763 |   5514 (0.97835) |    122 |     127 |    5006.80 |    4813.97 |   239.20 |    192.82 |  96.149
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                                |   714100 | 302356           | 410770 |     974 |  256969.36 |  253464.60 |  4236.52 |   3504.75 |  98.636
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SD Profit before fees:       3504.75907441 BTC (1.364%)
Cumulative Fees Paid:         359.47685000 BTC
SD Profit after fees:        3145.28222441 BTC (1.224%)
----
Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been:
Blockchain Tx:  2151576  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 1321428  (61.4%)
Blockchain MB:  909.7  :  SatoshiDice Tx: 541.6  (59.5%)

10740  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Paying 6.9% per week... Small accounts welcome. on: July 17, 2012, 06:41:26 PM
Of course, but I thought that he trusted Pirateat40 more than I now do. If so, he should be willing to risk something selling insurance on Pirate default like others do. If not, I think that I am going to get out of the water.

It sounds like you're saying you want more than 6.9% on the uninsured part of your deposit.

In order to pay you that, payb.tc would have to invest the insured part with pirate as well, and then may not be able to pay you in the case of a pirate default.  Unless he has other funds he's willing to risk.  But in that case it would be more cost effective to stop offering insurance and put those other funds with pirate rather than holding them somewhere safer so he can be sure to be able to pay out insurance claims.

Insurance companies are able to make a profit because not everybody's house burns down on the same day.  The ones who don't suffer a disaster pay for the ones who do to rebuild their house.  With BS&T it's different - if it defaults, it defaults for everyone.
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