If the merchant is honorable, you should receive a full refund of the US dollar value.
You should not expect to get back the original Bitcoin amount as this is subject to volatile changes.
This. Using Bitcoin to pay goods or services priced in fiat currency are always a risk for us Bitcoin users in that regard. But well worth it if it's just a small amount  What if you are buying something like a mining contract or something else that produces income in terms of Bitcoin (like a Bitcoin talk account)? Or what if you purchased something like gold or silver bars? What you suggest makes sense only if you are dealing in terms of dollars however when dealing in other pricing methods this is going to be bad for one of the parties. |
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That guy has nothing but negative trust and neutrals that contain warnings. When exactly did you make this agreement?
Even without the negative trust, I can't see why it would be a good idea to pay that guy upfront for anything
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All collateral should be held by a trusted third party.
Just because you are dealing with an older member does not mean you should have additional trust with then when there is a lack of trade history.
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I am happy to give you 1btc .. but can you go first because i had to pay to my friend who will release funds to you if so i will text him for the rates.  you will get a lot of responses like this and others with what appears to be very good rates however it will very much be a bad idea to send first to most people but instead should use a trusted escrow service that will protect both parties equally. Also if someone claims to be willing to accept PayPal then PayPal's buyer protection will not protect you with digital items, you would need to lie in order to reverse a PayPal transaction |
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Considering that withdrawal from their page can take a week or longer for no apparent reason but their admins mood and suspicions[1] I strongly suggest to not join the campaign until they payout directly. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1025088.0They have the funds in escrowed by Master-P just in case that the admin fails to process the withdraw request. So it is not an issue if the payment is not directly to our wallet for references : Currently 0.42 BTC held in escrow.
I don't think escrow will be very effective considering that it will be nearly impossible to know if withdrawals were processed or not. IMO in order for escrow to work then there needs to be evidence that payment was actually made. Unless the funds aren't used till there is a dispute or the campaign ends. No. Escrow should protect both parties equally. If people start claiming they are not receiving payments then there would really be no way to prove it either way so the escrow would need to make a decision without absolute proof, while it would be very easy to make a small change so the escrow would easily know exactly what happened. |
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Considering that withdrawal from their page can take a week or longer for no apparent reason but their admins mood and suspicions[1] I strongly suggest to not join the campaign until they payout directly. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1025088.0They have the funds in escrowed by Master-P just in case that the admin fails to process the withdraw request. So it is not an issue if the payment is not directly to our wallet for references : Currently 0.42 BTC held in escrow.
I don't think escrow will be very effective considering that it will be nearly impossible to know if withdrawals were processed or not. IMO in order for escrow to work then there needs to be evidence that payment was actually made. |
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just now, Vod put an neg on me ,Ｉdon't understand why, while the issue has been past for a long time. and we are doing our best to bring back our respects. You don't understand why? Did you read the reference? It is a legitimate negative trust. I did note that you had negative feedback from another default member but [b[then you paid him to escrow and he removed the negative feedback...[/b] Is that the way you will do business? Pay people off? I will give you a second chance in 30 days if you manage to keep yourself clear of scams. I don't do business on these forums and as a result I cannot be bought.  I want to note that the ~$1 in escrow fees had zero impact on my decision to remove my negative for girlbtc.com. I live in a first world country and one dollar can really not buy anything, let alone my trust |
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed,[/b] but account sales are discouraged.[/b]
Is there any kind of reference to support the fact that account sales are discouraged? If so could that quote be referenced? and if not could that statement be removed from this rule? |
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Im not going to scam if you think so, We can do small trades for 50-100 Euro before.
lol. Doing smaller trades is not going to protect whoever you are trading with, it will just mean that you will scam for a lesser amount. It would also obviously not be a good idea to send first to a brand new user, as escrow should be used. You should withdraw to your bank account and then use coinbase to buy bitcoin. You will get a better deal |
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How much would you charge for an account with 4350 posts, 5,000 PM's in their inbox and 4,800 PM's in their outbox? There is no rush on a quote, and by the time your service is utilized the above numbers will probably have increased somewhat.
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I recently had a full member account sell for .065 BTC at auction, so I somewhat doubt that it would be a good idea to value your account at more then .1 BTC
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I could get you a $400 amazon gift card for +1% if you really needed it urgently.
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Badbear has made multiple comments in the past hour. I do not think your request is going to be what you wanted.
Badbear has stated he is away until the first. While he may be able to post messages, it's possible he doesn't have access to all his regular investigative tools until the first. BadBear outed a number of alts of dznuts85 who scammed girlbtc.com out of .3 BTC just yesterday.
I have pissed off a lot of people and cost them a lot of money they were hoping to steal.
You have also pissed off a lot of innocent people and prevented them from contributing to the Bitcoin community because of your false or misleading accusations. No. Here we go, in denial again. I noticed that you had your negative trust removed and then Quickseller added it again today. What happened? Short for what I'd consider fair: him to review the rating to something more accurate/change it to a comment saying that he personally doesn't trust me/remove the rating. I edited the rating to remove the statement that "an agreement was reach" despite that I still believe that fact to be true. I don't think you have disputed any of the facts in my adjusted rating. I had noticed that the OP was changed requesting that the text of my negative trust be updated to something more accurate, so I edited it (deleted and reposted) to something that reflects facts that are undisputed. Unsurprisingly the OP has continued trolling and has not stated this is resolved. |
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You shouldnt be selling trust ratings at all. This will only get your default trust removed and/or banned. Abusing the trust system is not allowed(I think)
But if you really want that, post it into digital goods or services (Marketplace)
Selling trust is not against the forum rules. If it was a bad thing, theymos would have made a rule against it. That said, you are posting to up your post count, and I'm happy to legitimize your comment with a reply. Remember my kindness, and consider purchasing Trust from BespokeServicesLTD when you feel you can afford it. Thank you. How much are you charging? I might know someone who is interested if the price is right. |
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I don't see why someone shouldn't leave feedback for loans that they complete. If someone borrows 0.01 BTC and pays back 0.015 BTC, make sure you leave that in your feedback. If someone has proven themselves trustworthy with 0.01 BTC, that doesn't mean they are trustworthy with any larger sums.
500 positive feedback from the most trusted members of the forum for 0.01 BTC each, doesn't make that person trustworthy with 5 BTC, maybe with 0.05.
I think another thing people overlook is how absurd it is for escrows to leave positive trust to those who use their services. Completing a deal through escrow requires 0 trust at all, yet you have users like this who now have fairly high trust ratings just from using the same default trusted escrow multiple times. It is much easier to buy default trust through escrow than through lending, the second party in the trade can just be your alt account and all it costs you is the escrow fee, which is barely anything. There is an arguement to leave positive trust for larger transactions and for more complex transactions in order to leave a more reputable paper trail of the trade however as a rule you should not be leaving positive trust when you escrow. It is especially absurd to be leaving 5 trust ratings for small trades when he might as well have been trading with himself. |
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I am guessing he is out of "dirt" and is trying to do whatever he can to get his negative removed I don't think it is going to work. |
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It looks like BadBear has finally gotten most of the 'low hanging fruit' and going after less obvious spammers.
most of your posts tend to not really add very much/anything to the conversation and seem to be rarely replied to. No one replying to you is a sign that your posts are insubstantial.
This is a discussion forum and if no one is saying anything back to you then you are just constantly talking to yourself.
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I have pissed off a lot of people and cost them a lot of money they were hoping to steal.
You have also pissed off a lot of innocent people and prevented them from contributing to the Bitcoin community because of your false or misleading accusations. No. |
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You can look at the top of this thread for one example.
Look asshole, stop with the smear campaign against me. I know that you did the same thing to TF when he gave you negative trust, and you are doing the same thing to me.
There has not been one person to disagree that you scammed TF/CoinChat, although the question remains as to how much. As soon as people start disagreeing with you, the thread simply gets locked.
At the end of the day you are not getting your negative trust removed, you are a scammer, a troll, and a spammer.
Seems there are multiple campaigns, or maybe all the accusations are true. I have pissed off a lot of people and cost them a lot of money they were hoping to steal. |
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Short for what I'd consider fair: him to review the rating to something more accurate/change it to a comment saying that he personally doesn't trust me/remove the rating. I edited the rating to remove the statement that "an agreement was reach" despite that I still believe that fact to be true. I don't think you have disputed any of the facts in my adjusted rating. |
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