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1081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: May 17, 2017, 07:59:27 AM
Vaccinations become obsolete every year, because new viruses are constantly appearing and it will be more effective to improve immunity in a healthy way, rather than letting all kinds of vaccines.

Virus mutations are rare, but deadly. A perfect example is that of the influenza virus. It mutates very frequently, which makes it extremely difficult for the scientists to develop vaccines. But the other viruses, such as Polio and smallpox have remained stable for the past hundreds of years. So vaccines work 99% of the time, but for the remaining 1%, we don't have any remedy.

Thanks for telling us about deadly virus mutations which are rare. This shows that beneficial mutations don't come about at all, and evolution couldn't have happened. Dead viruses are dangerous. Stop vaccinations.

Cool

Wtf are you talking about?
Mutation are rare so evolution couldn't have happened?
Do you know the difference between rare and non existent?
1082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 17, 2017, 07:58:25 AM
That is an impressive pump at Stamp  Shocked

Every time I expect a deeper correction and/or longer consolidation, Bitcoin just keeps surprising me!

2000$ soon?

Any clue on why the pump now? Or is it just 'bitcoin being bitcoin"

(bitcoin is berry,berry mysterious to me!)

curious if I missed some kinda news on why BTC is pumping.....

(thou come to think of it ...I did dump my current LTC mining hoard into 8 btc yesterday....like minds?)

You're probably not the only one selling alts to come back to btc...
I guess that's the reason for the strong up momentum right now. Lots of people coming back after their alts went a bit up.
1083  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice | Most Popular, Oldest & Trusted | Huge Community | Free BTC | Instant on: May 16, 2017, 11:22:59 AM
Today was a lucky day I hit 330x from max faucet made like 0.01 Grin
And made it to 0.019 before busting faucet money.
That was a nice feeling when the roll went 99.70<


My best was faucet to BTC0.25. Was a long road and after getting there I lost it in 5 stupid bets.  Grin

That's a bit of a shame xD
You won 400$ without betting anything and you lost it all again ^^'

1084  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crazy shit Bible says on: May 16, 2017, 11:00:27 AM
Atheists don't even realize that they are not atheists. They CAN'T be atheists. Why not? Because atheism says that God does not exist. Yet atheists all know that God might exist somewhere they haven't examined, yet, like at the bottom of the ocean, or on Mars, or in some other galaxy.

Since atheists know this, they are only TRYING to be atheists. And it will always be difficult for them to be atheists, at least until they have examined the whole universe to see if God doesn't exist somewhere.

Atheism is self-contradictory.

Cool

Ok so because it MIGHT exist we can't deny it?
So I guess we also have to believe in the unicorns because they might be on mars or wherever...
1085  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Bitcoin : quelles perspectives pour 2017 ? on: May 16, 2017, 10:58:59 AM
évidemment qu'ils veulent casser ... on a dépassé l'or.

pour eux, c'est un affront très important qu'un moyen de paiement électronique décentralisé ... puisse "obtenir" autant de valeur en même pas 10 ans (alors que toutes les monnaies nouvelles ont toujours été réalisées à partir de dévaluation de la monnaie nationale ancienne).

On a dépassé l'or?
Je suis pas sûr de comprendre...
Tu compares quoi à quoi? Les markets caps? La capitalisation totale?
1086  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST, play & invest, 2BTC JACKPOT on: May 16, 2017, 10:54:07 AM
Not always positive - but been doing well every week so far Smiley

Statistically positive Wink

That's why the investment is alway a cool thing in a casino ^^

Btw, I got a question. Is there anything securing the invested funds?
1087  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2017, 10:52:16 AM
Since we hit a support line at around 1650, we might stay here for a couple of days.

Any thoughts on, if we continue all the way down to 1200 or bounce back to 1800 first?

By the way, the panic was amusing, but it is clear as day we are looking at market consolidation, not start of a bear market.

No I'd say it will bounce back immediately.

It's already back on the 1700$ and no reason to see it coming back Smiley
1088  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: En bref, quel est le montant dû aux impôts en cas de vente de bitcoins ? on: May 16, 2017, 09:38:23 AM
Ce que je retiens déjà de ce topic, c'est qu'il peux toujours être utile de prévenir le détenteur de son compte bancaire d'une arrivée de 400.000 € sur son compte. Dans la pratique, comment cela se passe-t'il pour quelqu'un qui comme moi, n'a pas d'interlocuteur dans sa banque (marre qu'ils essaient de me fourguer leur dernièr produit pour toucher leurs primes), je n'en sais rien, mais ce ne doit pas être très compliqué.
Honnêtement je serais toi je chercherais un interlocuteur...
Change de banque, ouvre un nouveau compte...
C'est difficile de gérer ce genre de mouvements sans avoir personne avec qui s'adresser.

Les USA ne sont plus -et depuis longtemps- un pays libéral.
Ils l'étaient clairement au moment de sa fondation par les pères fondateurs mais ne le sont plus du tout. Evidemment, on y est plus libre qu'en France mais la différence s'estompe.
Notons que certains Etats, comme le Texas et le Delaware sont bien plus économiquement libéraux que d'autres comme l'épouvantable Etat de Washington.
Des pays économiquement libéraux, il faudrait plutôt citer Honk Kong, Singapour, la nouvelle zélande, la Suisse.

Effectivement on part sur un débat politique et ça s'éloigne du sujet.
On se contentera de rappeler que les pays libéraux basent leur économie sur une croissance perpétuelle... Donc sur une augmentation infinie de la production... Donc ça marche pas hein...
Mais bon faudrait refaire un nouveau thread.
1089  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are rich countries rich and poor countries poor? on: May 15, 2017, 08:49:22 AM


*National IQ per country - estimates by Lynn and Vanhanen 2006

 I don't imagine one need look too much further for an explanation.

Yeah but that's why your IQ is probably around 60 even though the average one is higher xD

Only an idiot could believe it's a reason and not a consequence.
1090  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: May 15, 2017, 08:38:27 AM

Ok I'd just like to know if there is a whole conspiracy behind vaccins going on since... Well at least for 2 centuries, why are all doctors fully in?
It means ALL DOCTORS are machiavelous traitors?
That they all just have 0 ethics without exception?

In the West in particular there was a concerted effort to promote 'allopathic' medicine and deprecate other forms of healing which started well over a century ago.  This was done in in part by funding medical programs and influencing the government to sanction preferred medical paradigms and trade organizations.  Allopathic medicine tends to rely heavily on pharmaceutical products and there is an increasingly ugly incestuous relationship between corporate, government, and academia going on here.

Medical doctors put their pants on the same way as do everyone else.  One needs a generally high IQ to get through medical school, but that does not mean they or Gods above Men or whatever.  Most of them have a better than average understanding of certain fundamentals of biology and half a day or so of instruction on vaccine science (or dogma).  Those who stop there are easily outpaced by an interested non-medically trained individual who studies the subject for a while, and especially when such an individual has the same basic background in the fundamentals of biology, ecology, etc.

It is also the case that many many medical doctors have their own mis-givings about vaccine regimes and the number is growing.  Most of my own most valuable insights into issues with vaccine technology comes straight from formally trained medical doctors.  It is propaganda that makes people believe that 'all doctors' think one thing or another.  Many do not, and many of these have first-hand experience with some of the malfeasance within the establishment systems.  Only a relatively few people have what it takes to buck the system when it means financial ruin and flushing a lifetime of career development down the toilet.

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An amusing saying from the days of old when there were options in medical service (paraphrased since I cannot find reference):

Allopathic:  Patient dies from the cure of the disease.
Naturalpathic: Patient dies for the disease.

For my part, I'll try to make informed decisions on a case by case basis about what services I'll use.  I'm not buying a lot of the bullshit about high blood pressure, too much 'bad cholesterol', etc, etc.  OTOH, I'll be first in line for rabies vaccine if I get bitten by a rabid animal.



So for you in fact everyone is wrong apart from you...
Doctors, searchers, scientists...
They're all wrong, you're the only one who saw what's really happening: that vaccins are in fact harmful and you shouldn't take them.

And you don't see why I have a problem with your theory? xD
1091  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: En bref, quel est le montant dû aux impôts en cas de vente de bitcoins ? on: May 15, 2017, 08:23:04 AM
avec le nouveau président la situation n'a pas l'air de s'améliorer .....

T'es fou?
Vu le côté libéralisme économique absolu ça va être de mieux en mieux au contraire... En tout cas pour les traders...
Pour le pays c'est une autre histoire.

J'espère que t'as raison pour le côté libéralisme économique , il nous reste que voir ce qu'il va se passer. Personnellement je ne suis pas confiant, mais je serai heureux dans quelque mois d'avouer m'être trompé.

Ben oui, franchement quand tu vois des pays comme les USA, le libéralisme économique ça fait envie!
Jveux dire c'est EVIDENT que c'est une bonne solution.
Clairement.
Y a qu'à regarder leur pays.
Joie et bonheur  Roll Eyes
1092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: May 15, 2017, 08:21:02 AM
Before anyone complains about taxation being thievery, that person should tell us who pays the Policeman,Soldiers,Firemen and how come they had hospitals to go to and who pays for the roads they drive on. Its a give and take example, You pay taxes and the Government provide these.

Forget Government. Do you want fire protection? How about police protection? How about soldier protection and hospitals? Forget taxes. Buy what you want. That way you don't have to buy a bunch of BS that you don't want. And, there will be competition among the service offerers, so the prices will come down. And you will easily be able to take the service providers to court if they don't follow through.

Cool

Suuuuuuuuuuuure
Let's everything become private! Why not?
I mean what's private in USA and is not in civilized countries? Healthcare.
And how is USA doing in healthcare?

healthcare: 37. Just better than Slovenia, you're doing great yeah!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000

Oh look at that! All the 10 best healthcare system in the world are public ones funded by taxation!!!
Could there be a link?

Nah must be just because USA isn't lucky.

1093  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: May 15, 2017, 08:16:14 AM
It's simple.

Those who own the guns have control.



Not true.
Those who have the number have control.
No matter how well armed they are, if you're 100 times more numerous you can win.
It's not like army and police had ever managed to stop a revolution...
1094  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: May 15, 2017, 08:14:46 AM
-Obvious scam-

Hey man.
Just to adress your big question of "religious being the big winner of Darwin evolution" as you say.

Simple question: do you think religion is a genetic characteristic?

Why do you say "scam", when I am sourcing statistics from secular governments? You wont find any country in the entire world where nonbelievers have enough children to atleast replace their own numbers. In such cases evolution theory prescripts extinction, no?
Nope. And that's where the scam is.
I'm calling your theory a scam because the base of it is false, not because the data are.
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Indeed, atheist scientists do believe there is such thing as "religious gene", thats what you are asking right? You do not care for what I think. So let atheists speak for themselves and how they admit, that religious will inherit the Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene

Oh it's not that I don't care for what you think! It's just that there is a difference between "I think that" and "that is the truth" Wink

Please just read your own link and see how only a few religious scientists actually defend this theory of a god gene, all the others are saying it has nothing specific to do with God or religion.
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Already wrote, that I see convergence between science and religion as both complement each other in description of natural phenomena and Gods will. One from material, the other from spiritual perspective.

Well here is why your theory is a scam from a scientific point of view:
1/ You lack one information. The Darwin's evolution theory is NOT "evolutionnary winner makes the most children" but "evolutionnary winner have the greater genetic legacy". It means that if the birth rate is 7 but the death rate is 6 before the age of 30, it's not an evolutionnary success. You have to take into account the survival of the children until they're able to procreate again, not just the number of children.
2/ Darwinism is fit ONLY to genetic legacy. If you separate religious people from other people it just doesn't lead to any conlusion because religion is NOT a genetic phenomenon. So it doesn't matter how much they breed, their religion isn't in their genes ^^
To give you a conrete example: if short people had an evolutionnary advantage there would be more and more short people... Simply because those being short would make more children and those children would survive more easily and statistically short people would make much more short people because it's a genetic characteristic. While religion is an education question so it has no link with genes.

You migh be able to create a Darwin theory for social characteristics and education though, that might be possible I don't know. But Darwinism doesn't prove your point Wink
1095  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 15, 2017, 08:01:46 AM
Price is waiting the new ETF SEC be decided so it can continue it normal trajectory, hopefully towards the moon.
There's zero chance of that.  The SEC has made their choice and outlined their reasons for it (fraud protection, "penny stock", etc).

I hope no one else has got their hopes up about that, because if they did it would cause at least a slight dip when it's rejected again.

No way it get accepted we agree.
But you know if everyone is thinking the same as you... Well chances are that it will cause an up mementum in fact ^^

So you never know with btc...
1096  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: May 13, 2017, 05:28:41 PM
The God-emperor has spoken, RWDS when?

Meet your all-white, all-male Right-Wing Senate death panel:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/5/1659368/-Meet-your-very-white-very-male-Senate-death-panel





We got the same in France so I feel you...

The Senate is completely Right wing. It has been for the last century...
There hasn't been a left wing president of senate for the last century!!!
1097  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 13, 2017, 05:12:51 PM
You contradict yourself. According to the definition of religion (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t), whatever you believe in is a religion for you. Nobody, not even you, can walk around without having any beliefs whatsoever.

A sane person will believe in things that seem logical. It is not logical to believe that science theory is fact when it is acknowledged by scientists to not be know to be fact. Belief in science theory as fact is religious belief.

Cool

Wrong.
Science is not a religion. You say that theories are acknowledged by scientists to not be facts?
Well that's the very difference between theories and theorems... But only few theories remain. Most science aspects have been proven right now.

Could you give an example of a scientific theory that is not proven? Cause the only ones I see are... Well no scientist "believe in them" they just find those theories interesting and we think it MIGHT be the answer but that's all.
1098  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: May 13, 2017, 05:09:55 PM
Police only "bully" citizens because of drug prohibition.  Before that police was seen similarly to firemen...helpful folks that are keeping a place safe.  Once drug prohibition started, the monetary reward for corruption and opportunity to profile people came about.  Around that same time, people started feeling less safe in the presence of the police.  Look at the police in Portugal, where are drugs are criminalized.  They're cool.

Cops are cool everywhere in the European Union, and not just in Portugal (perhaps with the exception of certain eastern European nations such as Poland and Lithuania). The difference in the United States is due to the cultural variations.
Cops aren't cool. Not at all.
They're just not completely crazy assholes shooting everyone contrary to US Cops
But that doesn't make them cool.
That makes them... Let's just say that it makes us not wanting to kill all cops that's all.
1099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: May 13, 2017, 04:56:06 PM
Anyway this whole darwinism of religious people is both false and stupid.

It's just a scam, don't fall for it people Wink
1100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The problem with atheism. on: May 13, 2017, 04:55:25 PM
-Obvious scam-

Hey man.
Just to adress your big question of "religious being the big winner of Darwin evolution" as you say.

Simple question: do you think religion is a genetic characteristic?

It is!

But even our free will is a cause and effect thing in close to 100% of it. The tiny sliver of a percent that has free will in it, is the thing that God uses to judge how He will dictate the rest of our life through cause and effect.

Cool

No link between my question and your remark...
If you think religion is a genetic characteristic that means there is no merit in being a religious person.
It means people who are religious are because of there genes and people who are not religious aren't because of there genes...

And as God is the one who created the humans and there genes, isn't it incredibly mean and sadistic from him to punish those who simply don't have the genes to be religious?
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