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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 06:31:01 PM
looks like Poloneix is down!

it makes you wonder what they are doing since they had the largest ETH volume from the beginning and there was a lot of ETH deposited there.

mmm, dumping?

never trade through the exchange with volume several times that of the next highest. such a red flag.  
1082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 06:12:02 PM
ETh should really have to slow down and make it look like its stable. No one in the right mind will chase to buy more ETH as one would suspect they just wait for people to buy eth so they could suddenly dump.

they'll try to suck the Chinese in tomorrow and then dump.

anyone holding ether should consider scheduling a couple of late night shifts in the next 48hrs to be ready to respond in real time.

It will be interesting to see how the Chinese take to ETH... Seems right now they have a lot invested in BTC and that will soon have its own issues
http://cointelegraph.com/news/amanda-johnson-of-the-daily-decrypt-break-up-with-bitcoin



they'd be better off investing in a 21 than ether right now. it isn't worth risking 14 to make just 1 at 15. there's a hot of air to fall through.
1083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 05:26:40 PM
ETh should really have to slow down and make it look like its stable. No one in the right mind will chase to buy more ETH as one would suspect they just wait for people to buy eth so they could suddenly dump.

they'll try to suck the Chinese in tomorrow and then dump.

anyone holding ether should consider scheduling a couple of late night shifts in the next 48hrs to be ready to respond in real time.
1084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 05:21:02 PM
Poloniex was incorporated on 9th February in Delaware.

When was the 1.2 million of ether sent to the exchange?

What was it about the NYSDFS BitLicense that they didn't like i wonder?  
1085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 05:13:47 PM
poloniex not loading for anyone else?

when gox was the main casino this used to happen during dumps..

is Poloniex locking people out during the dump stage?
1086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: March 13, 2016, 02:13:45 PM
where is the safest place/wallet to safe-keep ETH coins? 

not Poloniex LOL
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Vitalik flee the country after the Eth scheme implodes? on: March 13, 2016, 12:55:33 PM
Why should Vitalik flee from Switzerland where he currently lives  Huh There is actually no better country to be.

and that's the tell. no better country to be in when running the biggest web scam yet seen.

Marc Rich resided there too. LOL.
1088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH will go to $100, then shoot up to BTC all time high on: March 13, 2016, 12:27:15 PM
There is no way this is going to happen. The pump is almost finished/finished. So make sure to sell now else you will end up
losing your profit. It's how this game is played. With so many other altcoins, and eth is no exception on that.

Correct and why ?

I have said lots (i have to repeat everything schooling crypto)

Grasp this concept boys & girls..

There is "Manipulators" among us.. they been here pretty much from the start.
A large part of it is.. Pump Groups (such as the one(s) BobSurplus has admitted to)
Then of course lone wolves who trade on their own.. with big reserves.
These guys out there can wield tremendous power in trading because of their buying & selling power.
When you can walk onto an exchange and buy every coin it has for say ETH at once
with the change in your pocket..
YOU basically write the rules.
YOU control crypto !

YOU are a WHALE !

SO ?

Well.. where does a whale want to play and splash around having fun ?
Where the people are..
So ANY coin that has a following and gets popular is going to have an X on it's back by market manipulators.
EVEN if it has nothing to do with the dev's etc.

NOTE: I said that paragraph above at Poloniex and was banned for FUD.

I see dev's always cry.. my coin is NOT a pump & dump coin.
Uhhmm stupid fucking idiot dev's.. that is far beyond your control.  Roll Eyes

Then you have guys who make even more rules for themselves..
You can make your OWN coin as a Pumper then own them all at no cost on Launch day
EXACTLY LIKE ETHEREUM GUYS DID

Then dump them for profits.. LOTS of profit !

And these guys KNOW damn well you don't (shouldn't) dump too much at once..
because it sets off alarms that are seen by greedy little idiot fuckheads making 1 BTC profit.
..so duh.. they trickle dump (stealthy like)

You are whale food.. your out of your league.. you ran ETH investard LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krill

and one has to now seriously question why the Ethereum Foundation decided to base itself in the Swiss canton of Zug. what a tell.

this is getting ever closer to being declared an authentic web scam, possibly the biggest yet seen.
1089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 12:06:13 PM
Copied post...

"#1. Bitfinex is adding Ethereum tomorrow.
#2. Big chinese exchange adding Ethereum tomorrow.
#3. Homestead is taking place tomorrow.
#4. AMA on 8btc.com by Vitalik Buterin, also to attract more chinese investors/exchanges
#5. Rumor that Microsoft will be using Ethereum, should be announced somewhere in this week.

Yeah. We can safely say that it will hit atleast $50 soon."

nicely quoted. yes "rumor". totally unattributed.
1090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 12:04:09 PM
I just felt somekinda bad about this because heard it right today.
I think it will see some dump, its already overbought for not big reason (no big news about it at all)

All kinds of big nes coming this week.. everyone buying like mad already knows... get in the know man!

that's a pleasing 'coincidence' for the pump merchants.
1091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Eth bubble is about to pop on: March 13, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
Meanwhile ETH rises

The bus that everyone was waiting for leaves the station. There's still bus stops along the way but people refuse to get off their bike and board the bus. People on the bus are shouting "get on!" "get on!" but they refuse.

As the bus leaves we wave them goodbye.

it's normally a train, and it jumps the tracks, and people get badly hurt. i would want to be sitting in a carriage at the back and in a seat facing backwards.
1092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum pump and dump? on: March 13, 2016, 09:07:37 AM
what people want is fiat and not ether, and to get fiat they have to cash out. each additional $1 rise in price increases the distance of the fall.

i found it interesting that the Foundation made its first noises about capping at 100 million ether DURING this  bubble. that makes me VERY suspicious about the entire ether project.
1093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 12, 2016, 12:43:10 PM

Don't be cryptic.

Well, Minecache says...

Sometimes people just don't listen to salient advices.

But in fact, if you listen to professionals with reputations, money and businesses at stake you'll get a far more sober view of Ethereum tokens as a viable investment instrument.

Notice I said Ethereum "tokens" - not the Ethereum economy as a whole. Thats because the tokens themselves are very different in nature from, say, Bitcoin tokens. Ethereum tokens are there to serve a technology function on the blockchain, not as a universal monetary unit.

Thats why Bitfinex says:



...a back handed endorsement if ever there was one.

It's also why Simon Dixon says "Ether is more like Fiat" at this point in his interview with Max Keiser.

The other thing you've got to note is that Ether is priced in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not priced in Ether. What that means is that when people are getting excited about the price of their ETH holding's, they're actually excited because their gaining Bitcoin, not Ether. Thats a bit of unconscious psychology that manifests from trading in a reserve currency denomination. Profits will be taken at some point and that will turn Ether toxic for a while just as happened with all the other assets that were going to supersede bitcoin such as Litecoin, Peercoin, NxT, Bitshares etc.

As Simon Dixon says, no doubt it will be successful and the question isn't whether it will accrue in value. The question is whether it will accrue in value against bitcoin which shows no signs of losing its reserve status. For me Ethereum is a technology and bitcoin is money. As such, one might have a look at what technology corporations have larger marketcaps than their country's monetary base - or even one sixth of the monetary base (which is where Ethereum is at the moment).

Since ETH is not a bearer token, it cannot replace bitcoin in that market - plain and simple. Also, it may be getting big investment but where is than investment going ? Not into the value of the tokens but the value of the assets that will run on that blockchain. Neither will the tokens have value in the way that company shares do because corporate shares give you influence in a way that smart contract blockchain tokens do not.

So if those tokens to not derive their value from a bearer property and not directly from ecosystem investment (at least not as directly as bitcoin tokens do) then where's the value coming from ?

Right now it's coming from speculative hysteria - and that's the subtext of that Bitfinex announcement. (But there's plenty volume so they're saying w.t.f. - lets get a piece of it  Cheesy  )


good post. sanity.
1094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 12, 2016, 12:41:02 PM

You can take the horse to water...

Sometimes people just don't listen to salient advices.

And maybe they just did listen to the subtext of that Bitfinex announcement  Wink


you mean this?;

http://themerkle.com/eth-price-goes-up-since-bitfinex-announcement/

1095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 12, 2016, 12:32:30 PM
i doubt there will be more fiat going in now it's the weekend.

it's all down to BTC, XRP, and LTC holders to decide if they want to take the chance that they're not going to be the ones dancing around the chair that gets taken away when the music stops.

i'm not sure the price will go up or down that much in the near future. i predict an impasse. the change will come if the BTC miners decide enough is enough and it's time to bring forward their plans for the halving effect to return the market to 'stability'.
1096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 12, 2016, 12:06:16 PM

You can take the horse to water...

Sometimes people just don't listen to salient advices.

And maybe they just did listen to the subtext of that Bitfinex announcement  Wink


what was that announcement?
1097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH will go to $100, then shoot up to BTC all time high on: March 12, 2016, 10:19:43 AM
how large (or should i say small) is the ETH dev community? it's tiny.

ETH is not accepted ANYWHERE by ANYONE for ANYTHING (Ripple and Factom are actually deployed in the real world by banks). this is an entirely closed bubble. the fiat component of the price is minimal. the price rise is a phenomenon of timing as BTC holders kick their heels waiting for the halving to take effect later in the year.

pop.
1098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 12, 2016, 09:45:14 AM
It is still going up, without single bigger dump or big correction, just straight up. Don't know where the top will be, but damn, the dump will be spectacular...1 billion for currency which was until last week in alpha release and no single shop is accepting it? There has to be some hidden reason for all this hype


I have none ..but my 'guess' is people see the banks using this for testing....see this as what the banks use to move their more 'private' tokens on this 'centralized' coin...ie comfort level...and main thing it is NOT the evil "bitcoin" so you can talk about blockchain and get investment dollars for your IPO ICO etc etc....

much like early miners......only now instead of 'home miners' being th cheerleaders they are using that idea to get 'big IPO' newbie money to go into this

(remember the big IPO hype for 'cloud miners' took a lot of newbie big buck version $$$)

So I sit here and scratch my head (like most here almost bought in a btc or two at 95c sheesh)

will this have 'legs' as the anti-bitcoin...if so at 450 buck btc 10-20 bucks for ethereum is NOT out of the question

or will it go pop?

don't know...but damn it is looking like if they had a decent wallet and got their act together ...it could very well do so

remember PAYCOIN a lot of FOMO money flowed into that....and whatever you say about ethereum ..it is legit in the sense compared to paycoin imho

not sure ..still on the fence......(no balls) Sad

edit: in my defense I shot 110 ltc last week to Carnth (one of 4 main adminstators on litecointalk.org) and you guessed it 'hacked account' thus why the site is down
either a fix or the hacker with super powers of an admin...flushed the system Sad

Also had a buddy put 12 btc into the lisk ico........ao I put 1 btc into that ...

was kinda a 'dumb week' probably.....so.....I'm NOT trying to drink the kool aid on ethereum.....(ah the heady days of kool aid drinking in 2013 ) Smiley

er...shudder..anyway ...what I mean to say is I KNOW ZIP.....but in the 'morass' of my mind....at this point in time ..what is rattling around ...



my 'analysis' (LOL) is that there has a been a rush to ETH before the week ended to catch the official release of Homestead. it's a self fulfilling prophesy.

will there be enough buyers when the sell starts? the price could crash down due to a lack of liquidity.

Oh look, the price is now stalling. i hope people have their exit timing worked out.
1099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH price soaring. Are you going to move some BTC into ETH? on: March 12, 2016, 09:11:24 AM
this could be a good thing for the bitcoin ecosystem.

most of ETH'S cap is from BTC, and the squabbling BTC aristocracy might finally understand that they need to cooperate with each other to protect their investment.
1100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: March 11, 2016, 05:50:59 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/toronto-stock-exchange-moves-toward-blockchain-with-ethereum-founder-hire/
TMX Group, the operator of the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX), has taken its first step toward investigating blockchain technology by appointing Ethereum founder Anthony Di Iorio as its first chief digital officer.


https://www.quadrigacx.com/
making ETH a lot easier to purchase in Canada!

http://bitcoinist.net/thomson-reuters-announces-ethereum-blockchain-plans/
Thomson Reuters Corporation is a major multinational mass media and information firm founded in Toronto

Guess Canada is embracing the ETH  Smiley

Wooooow! I don't believe it! It's awesome! It's more than I expected. 100$ for ETH or more soon. Billions of $ on the horizon!

$100? are you on mETHs? last year bitcoin was down at $225. today's cap $6.45 Bn. ETH's supply is 5x BTC.

for ETH at $11.32 to reach $100 its cap would have to be $7.76 Bn. that isn't going to happen, unless BTC suffers a black swan event. 
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