I've been trading since 2007 so expect a quick and smooth transaction.
For clarification, you have not been trading bitcoin since 2007. Bitcoin was created in 2009 and only started trading in mid 2010. It is obviously advisable to use a trusted escrow when dealing with this person, and you should not send first because "paypal is reversible" |
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I don't think you are going to get your money back unfortunately. IMO it should have set off a red flag when he agreed to deal in a small amount and then demanded that you send more to get a larger deal done.
You really should have used a trusted middle man (escrow) to prevent this kind of thing from happening, the cost is very little and will give you great protections.
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I think one thing that should be pointed out is that, in the US, places that have stricter gun control laws tend to have higher violent crime rates. Places like Chicago, Washington DC, and Detroit are all notorious for their high violent crime rates, but they also have very strict gun control laws. According to the Cato Institute, states with laws that allow citizens to have concealed carry licenses (states that allow their citizens to have a concealed gun) have a 24% lower violent crime rate, a 19% lower murder rate, and a 39% lower robbery rate then states that forbid their citizens to have a concealed weapon. |
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Signature deals is one thing that can get people interested in bitcoin, and will often be the only way that many bitcoin small businesses can afford to advertise their business. The forum benefits because it gets additional impressions for the advertisements that it sells so the forum ads are worth more.
No-one without an ad-sig would ever back this statement up (apart from a sockie created by an ad-sig poster of course). Ad-sigs have *ruined* this forum and if used in the new forum will ruin it to. Well I would hope you would agree that Bitcoin is based on free market economics. I believe that the reason Bitcoin was created was to allow commerce to take place more freely without relying on the banking system (which is very centralized). Without signature advertising then I don't see any cost efficient way for a small business to advertise. The last time that the forum auctioned forum ads each spot cost 2.9 BTC for (at most) a 10 day period. That works out to roughly $1,900 per month at the very minimum. Do you think that many small businesses can afford that large of marketing costs? My response to my above question is that they cannot. The result of this is that without paid signatures, small businesses would have difficulty advertising their goods and services, and as a result would not be able to grow. If small businesses are unable to grow, then larger businesses will be able to command a larger share of their market and will become more centralized which is not what Bitcoin is all about. I can say that forum ads was one major thing that got me involved and interested in/with bitcoin (I have had mild interest in both bitcoin and Bitcoin over the years, however never really took the time to buy any or to really understand hot it works until I joined the forum), and once I started posting (with a paid signature ad), I was able to learn more about Bitcoin (notice the little/big "b" in this paragraph and throughout), although I admit that I would probably be considered who is far from an expert regarding most of the technicalities behind Bitcoin. Has paid signature advertising done some harm to the forum? Yes, absolutely. Paid signatures create the incentives to spam the forum with useless posts. This however is being dealt with by BadBear who is being aggressive in banning people who make insubstantial posts; it is a work in progress. People will also post "fluffed" up posts that have very little contributory value, if they do it enough then they will likely also get banned. The fact that a lot of people have been banned for making insubstantial posts with a paid advertisement has been very public and I suspect that as a result others are going to be more hesitant to go around making useless posts, and will either abandon their account(s), sell their account(s), or put more effort into their posts. Does the good outweigh the bad for paid signatures? I think so. Any community that has grown to be as large as the bitcointalk community has grown to be is bound to have a spam problem. I would speculate that we would still have a small amount (maybe ~10-20%) of the shitposts that we have today even if paid signatures were banned. |
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For Junior: 0.0001 BTC per constructive post
For Member: 0.00014 BTC per constructive post
For Full Member: 0.00018 BTC per constructive post
For Senior Member: 0.00022 BTC per constructive post
For Hero: 0.00026 BTC per constructive post
I think your rates might be a little bit on the low side, there are many competing campaigns that pay ~5 times what you are offering. It would also be advisable to use an escrow service to protect participants from getting scammed out of the advertising they are giving you. You would then be able to not need to pay everyone every day (which will be very time consuming) |
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Well, I think spending 1,5 million $ on an online forum is too much... Honestly
You could shoot a super professional hollywood movie (well, nothing like Harry Potter, Transformers etc)
You could hire a game developer team and develop an AAA game
You could buy an office to let the staff work togheter
But spending 1,5 mil $ on a forum? What can you get? It will probably just be a hardware upgrade and/or a whole new forum script, but that doesnt cost over a million $?
The forum is great as it is, its perfect! Its one lf the biggest forums in the internet. People are enganging in the forum like crazy. The whole system works perfectly toghether.
Much money doesnt mean good quality. Look at google, it didnt take the developers a cent to spend on the development, however its the best site on earth.
I think the forum should stay how it is right now, maybe changing/fixing some small things on the forum (adding more features, some small design implements, MORE EMOJIS!)
Some of your estimated are quite far off, but in my opinion, your point is kind of right. A million and a half dollars seems like way too much, but this has been discussed plenty before already and there is nothing we can do about it. I am also quite sure that it did take Google money to get to where it is now  . I also would not call it the best site on Earth. A forum is also not that easy to make. As to if it is perfect in its current state.... meh, that is up for debate. The state now is perfect, at least for me. My internet connection isnt the fastest on earth, so it would take me ages to load a forum with tons of images/design on every page. Honestly, signature campaigns are one of the most important factors to bring people to post here on the forum - thats what actually keeps the forum alive. There other bitcoin forums out there that look much better than this forum, but still hasnt got nearly as much users as this one. The signature thing is great, it lets users make money while posting and lets companies/website advertise on the forum. New users register ln this forum because of this advantage This concerns me a lot. Signature deals is one thing that can get people interested in bitcoin, and will often be the only way that many bitcoin small businesses can afford to advertise their business. The forum benefits because it gets additional impressions for the advertisements that it sells so the forum ads are worth more. Why is everyone in such a rush for this new forum anyways? No matter what a chunk of users will be complaining either way I guess. Personally I am fine with just using the forums as-is  Its not about the rush, its about being fooled over and over with this forum's special 2weeks TM politics. I couldnt care less about the new forum now that avatars are back up tho. PS: but i want Gggiiiifffssss!  Any software project should be expected to have delays, especially one that is going to be used for hundreds of thousands of users. |
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what i need sir ? need escrow for that ? If you are looking for a .04 BTC loan then you need some collateral that can be easily and quickly sold by the lender for an amount greater then .04 BTC when you fail to repay the loan I just have https://bitcoinfield.net account in which the active deposit setiaphari 0.02 which can be taken advantage 0.002 during my account still take for granted for 2weeks  detail login i will send to PM if you interesting I don't think that is worth .04 BTC. I am not familiar with that website, however a very generous valuation would put it at .026 BTC. I would suggest waiting the 4 days and withdrawing once you can withdraw .044 BTC instead of taking out a loan. |
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what i need sir ? need escrow for that ? If you are looking for a .04 BTC loan then you need some collateral that can be easily and quickly sold by the lender for an amount greater then .04 BTC when you fail to repay the loan |
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I am not sure if you are serious with this post or not. However if you are then you probably should move this thread to either meta or scam accusations. Once it is there you should offer a special to anyone who has scammed in the past and is complaining about negative trust they got because of their scam.
You would make a fortune.
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Btct.co is fairly secure, I only found one SQLi which was promptly fixed.
While you may have spent a lot of time working on it, this does not mean it is worth that much. Fundamentally with the current state of the bitcoin economy you want to start with a secure prototype with the core functions. You so do not need unnecessary things like options, time delayed trades, android apps, etc to start off with.
Good luck with the sale, it may be useful to someone at that price but I suggest pricing it more modestly.
I would not exactly consider this to be a vouch especially considering who it is coming from lol. Do you happen to be an alt of the OP? That's TradeFortress. I know that hashie is TF, but is the OP TF? |
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Btct.co is fairly secure, I only found one SQLi which was promptly fixed.
While you may have spent a lot of time working on it, this does not mean it is worth that much. Fundamentally with the current state of the bitcoin economy you want to start with a secure prototype with the core functions. You so do not need unnecessary things like options, time delayed trades, android apps, etc to start off with.
Good luck with the sale, it may be useful to someone at that price but I suggest pricing it more modestly.
I would not exactly consider this to be a vouch especially considering who it is coming from lol. Do you happen to be an alt of the OP? |
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If you are trying to buy BTC with fiat, then why don't you use WU, or a cash deposit? You would probably end up getting a much better rate, even if you went with one of the exchangers in the currency exchange section  I'm merely being lazy and not wanting to get verified on stamp... And for some reason my debit card doesn't work on virwox. Well if you have $200 in cash then you could just open a thread in the Currency Exchange section saying that you want to buy $200 worth of bitcoin and can pay with Western Union/Money Gram/Walmart to Walmart. I'd say there is a good chance you would get within ~2-3% of the market rate within ~24 hours or so and W2W only costs $4.5 to sent up to $450 (I think - I know it is $9 to send up to $900) |
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If you are trying to buy BTC with fiat, then why don't you use WU, or a cash deposit? You would probably end up getting a much better rate, even if you went with one of the exchangers in the currency exchange section |
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0.06
^^^current high bid only ~24 hours left |
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I don't think accusing him of being the alt of some loan scammer based on some kind of weird hunch is proper mod behaviour imo. All it did was derail the discussion.
The thread was long derailed by the time he made that statement ( and received confirmation of such). The conversation was literally derailed threads ago lol. Are default trusted accounts also for sale? Serious question. Sounds like a good way to further derail the conversation. I know of a few that were in the past, however I somewhat doubt they still are based on their activity. There are none that I am aware of in the marketplace as of now. Received confirmation of such? What does that mean exactly? See Salty's last post on this thread. Lol, is this what you really think? That's what you've been doing here? Defending your skeezy boyfriend? Well, color me impressed! Undecided
Allrighty, gg. He essentially admitted to being supa |
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I don't think accusing him of being the alt of some loan scammer based on some kind of weird hunch is proper mod behaviour imo. All it did was derail the discussion.
The thread was long derailed by the time he made that statement (and received confirmation of such). The conversation was literally derailed threads ago lol. Are default trusted accounts also for sale? Serious question. Sounds like a good way to further derail the conversation. I know of a few that were in the past, however I somewhat doubt they still are based on their activity. There are none that I am aware of in the marketplace as of now. |
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What's up with the forum being "Sponsored by Private Internet Access, a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.".
Is the forum hosted on servers they provide? Yes. How to we know that Private Internet Access is not associated with British or US intel? We don't. AFAIK, it must be assumed that the forum is compromised, and anyone wanting to send sensitive info
should do so over PGP-encrypted e-mail where they have verified the receiver.
As long as the PGP key of the person you are signing to has been verified before hand to belong to the recipient (this is most likely done via your web of trust, but there may be other ways as well) then sending an PGP encrypted PM should be the same as sending a PGP encrypted PM as long as you are confident that it is actually being encrypted to that PGP key (e.g. "manually" or via a chrome extension) |
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No. If someone is a scammer, or has scammed in the past, but for whatever reason does not have negative trust then it would be appropriate to leave such negative trust.
Then why not give a negative trust rating to every single person that has ever scammed in this forum? The truth is that you can't and you won't because you'll only search for a reason to and give them out with ease to the people that have spoken against you thereby attracting your attention. If I come across, or am otherwise made aware of someone who has scammed then they will get negative trust from me. If you are implying that I should go searching every single thread for scams, then that is ridiculous as I obviously have a limited amount of time/resources and doing so would not be logically feasible. |
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If you are going to trust the forum enough to encrypt a PM prior to it being stored in the DB then you might as well be okay with it not encrypting the PM at all. While you could, in theory check to ensure that your messages are actually being encrypted in Javascript prior to being sent to the forum, it would be more difficult to ensure that this fact does not change, nor that the messages are not being encrypted to your PGP key plus some other PGP key (that an attacker has access to).
If you encrypt your messages manually (prior to them ever coming into contact with the forum) then you know for sure which key(s) exactly your message is encrypted to.
Well, in this case, why not have the public key stored per user, and then have a chrome extension that encrypts the text in the textbox? That would be one possibility, however you would still need to trust the forum enough to maintain an accurate list of PGP public keys. You would also need to trust the dev of the Chrome extension enough to not launch similar attacks as described above. If the forum changed the public key, the actual user cant decrypt the messages. Correct, however if the information is very sensitive then the attacker would have intercepted the data and there would be nothing that the sender could do about it. They would know however to stop sending additional sensitive information/data to that recipient. The Chrome extension could be open source, and if people are paranoid, they can build it for themselves.
I like this idea (the bolded part). It would be essentially the same as encrypting it themselves 1. Sure, the forum could change the public key, but lets hope that they dont do it. I cant really think of a clever way to solve this problem except for manually checking. 2. Yes, except its much less of a hassle. 1. In theory, the user could change the public key as well (for example if an account is hacked). It would also defeat the purpose of any kind of PGP web of trust, or any other level of trust for a particular PGP key. 2. It would result in (nearly) the same level of security |
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