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10801  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: October 09, 2016, 07:03:24 AM
I have my new goal just to day i just realize that if im going to spend so much bitcoin in gambling website in just like wasting money , Throwing money or giving my money  we need a stable job where we can get money and monthly salary and save it , Plan to make small business like selling foods and etc until it will become succeed and everything will follow Smiley)
That's a better idea than gambling, starting small is good as it only requires a little amount of capital and if you are good you will succeed and surely time will come that you will be able to earn a bigger amount of income bigger than you ever dream to win in gambling.
10802  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: October 09, 2016, 06:58:45 AM
if bitcoin is famous like a bank , i will choose bitcoin and only using bitcoin, but in fact bitcoin is not famous as we think, and only few people who using it, so i must using both of them.

Sad to say but you are right bitcoin really is not that known all over the world, that is why we are giving the opportunity to share it to other people so that the community would grow
That is expected already mate because we are just in the early phase and the adoption is not that big, when this continue to increase people will be attracted with bitcoin and eventually we will grow as a big community, it really takes time.
10803  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 09, 2016, 06:39:10 AM
bitcoin prices currently showing gains. a very good thing for those who want to buy bitcoin.
because in bitcoin 2016 prediction would be increased significantly. I heard about the rumor
yes i also suggest to buy bitcoin in the present time, as it is expecting that the price of bitcoin is going to be increase so high in next few months so if some one interested he should buy bitcoin right now.
I think you can not force someone to buy bitcoin that moment, because every person must have a reason and a certain criteria before trying to purchase bitcoin, yeah bitcoin is growing even though you think everyone knows that, but of course they will be looking for the right time to buy
And it is not good to force them to buy bitcoin when they do not understand it very well, we can advise them but what matters is that they are also convince with their decision to buy bitcoins, we all know that it is a good investment in the long run but we do not want someone is blaming bitcoin for his wrong decision.
This is depending on the capacity of its person, more users of bitcoin has no investment they have bitcoin by just participating in signature campaign and they do not need to buy because they earn lot of bitcoin specially if they are a higher rank.
Well, lucky for them because they have the opportunity to earn, but my opinion is if you are not earning big working online that is still not enough to hold that for your future, so you will be force to buy if you want to have a bigger income in the future.
Though if you earn small time but if you are not sending to the useless stuff just storing it in yyour wallet and always receiving every week and you are not sending to every one it could be big in the future ! Just keep earning and you should not  send it to the stuff that is useless.
That's going to be a long wait and requires a lot of patience and discipline, you can only that if you have a full time job and you do not need the income you earn in bitcoins, but if this is your only job I think it would be hard for you to save a decent amount.
10804  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 09, 2016, 06:30:32 AM
Money is primarily independence from one or both of something. Of course a lot of problems can not be solved with money, but most of them if money is solved. You can immediately pay off debts. This is the first thing to do. Invest the money in order to feel confident, too, need.
Personally I will not use bitcoin to pay debts, is my opinion that is better to pay them with fiat and keep your bitcoins at all costs since bitcoin is such a great investment.


Yeah bitcoins should be saved for the future to get higher benefits from it as it price will be much higher in future so its better not to spend them at a moment and  keep them for the right time to sell.
I think most of us here cannot really hold our bitcoins in the future as needs will arise anytime and we do not have an extra money to spend, only those people who are rich already have the capacity to hold int he future as they have good discipline than us.
10805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 09, 2016, 06:26:46 AM
just for have fun and for use relax time i think

You are right just have fun and relax and only spend what you can afford to lose.  Because i guess  the common  problem that gamblers are facing right now is that most of them gamble to earn so they become stressed instead.

I have been gambling for quite awhile already and I am practicing an emotionless way of gambling and it proves that I get not that stress because when I lost a session, I just go ahead for another session - those losses are part of the calculations and if the odds is in your favor, then you will emerge as victorious against the casinos.. You win some, you lose some.

But we both know that most of us do thinks like you does, even if they tried on they just cant i believe that you have already mastered self control well i guess through your experience

yeah experience definitely will be your better teacher when gambling. though there are people who even at the beginning have self control already to make sure they don't gamble beyond their means and just try to enjoy gambling with what they have. i think this is an intelligent way to gamble.
Lucky for them if they have already a self control so they will not lose more money in gambling. But for others although they have been playing for a long time, they cannot learn how to discipline themselves in gambling that is why they keep losing in the long run.
10806  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 09, 2016, 06:23:23 AM
No one here knows how to be rich otherwise they would be rich already, posting on bitcointalk wont make you rich, gambling wont make you rich and trading wont make you rich unless you are already pretty wealthy and you know what you are doing, people who think you can make 100 bitcoins with 1 trading are dellusional. Not saying it's impossible but it's just highly unlikely and it would take a lot of time, years and years
I disagree, if that was right then there will not be class mobility, the fact that someone is not rich right now does not mean he does not know how to do it, becoming rich takes time.
Becoming rich is always in the heart and mind of a person, if you encourage yourself to be rich you will do everything to achieve that and your intelligence, skills, and talent will bring you there, if you are good in managing a business you have a big chance to be rich as most of the rich people are businessman.
10807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 09, 2016, 06:16:37 AM

Not true when you have a target to stop after hit your winnings target and when you are closer with your winnings target it will make you a hurry to achieve it and sometimes you will get a defeat because you are not careful.
If I were in that situation, I would rather stop than to achieve that target because I am satisfy of what I have won, I just play for fun and that is my bonus for what I enter, and that is gambling that is really risky, but if you see gambling as a simple game, it will always fine for you to play.
Good point playing gambling just for fun will allow us not to be stress if we lose i like the idea if we win it is just a bonus with the fun and excitement that gambling brings.
Yeah Because we all know that gambling is very risky so I don't really get serious about gambling. And I don't focus on gambling. For me this is just a game when I am bored that I can use to.
Yes, you are perfectly correct. If you think the gambling is just made for our entertainment, Then you will not lose much money in gambling. While playing the game ofcourse in the long run win everyone gets excited, and people will think to make more profit. But they don't know at the end of the game we will lose everything. So if you control your mind, then you will not lose in the long run. 

I disagree that even you are going to control your mind and it tends that you are just enjoying then tendency you are not going to take care about your money. So, even you are losing that is going to be fine with you because you are just aiming for entertainment. And in the end that is just going to tell us that everyone is just going to lose in the end.
It is fine to enjoy your money as long as you use the amount that is only intended in gambling. there is no wrong of having an entertainment in gambling. As long as you know how to manage yourself or your financial.
Definitely, because gambling is for entertainment but it is just natural to spend money in gambling to enjoy otherwise we are not gambling at all. As long as fun is only your aim in gambling, you will have no problem as you can control your self and you can minimize your loses.
10808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 09, 2016, 06:13:06 AM
I never get rich from gambling, don't know why it's really hard to win big from gambling. Because everytime i win some, in the end i will lose it all.
Well i think it will become difficulty to rich from play gambling, because we just use our lucky and i don't find method in playing gambling to wins constantly. Except we have our website of gambling and taking fees on there, although it will need much money and time.
You are absolutely right its very difficult to become rich with Gambling its all game of luck if you have good day then you can take some good profit otherwise at the end most of punters in lost some time its very difficult for them to manage this lost

Luck could make you rich though! Like in lotto if you win then you become rich Cheesy Same as gambling  if you are lucky enough in big bets or something yyou always wins then you could earnn a lot of profits then make you rich enough Cheesy.
It's true but have you considered your chances in winning lottery, I think there are only few who got rich in lottery and millions have lose their money in gambling, I myself are also hoping that I will be rich in the future but I do not rely that now in gambling because  I have realize that chances are low.
10809  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: October 09, 2016, 06:08:59 AM
Paper money will be still there in the future but it will loose considerable amount of people using it.It is supported by the governments. Even when paper currency value falls down, government would change their policies to make its price stable.
Yes very important to us that paper money coz we use it everyday in our daily living. And paper money can not lost it coz we need that.

Is there going to be a need for a separate machine when the paper money is gone?

Everyone needs more paper money. They will be used for a long time. There are many situations in which you can pay only paper money. And the state does not allow as easy to remove them
yes and the reason is that bitcoin is still not so much popular as it is still a new crypto currency and still not a good number of people are using it, therefore bitcoin is not a threat to paper money in near future.
There is no such thing can replace paper money and correct bitcoin is not a threat in the centralized currency even bitcoin would be more popular it would only alternative currency we can used specially in online transaction.
Bitcoin is a threat but not a big threat, bitcoin is a very small currency compared to the paper money that we are using now, although we are going to the digital world but the government does not eradicate paper money because they know there are people who cannot adopt the digital world.
10810  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: October 09, 2016, 06:05:35 AM
I can understand a little of the economy, but they say that in the state of money as much as gold, and this is equivalent to the entire production on the market. And then what to do if someone wants to replace all currencies in the bitcoin. I have little faith in it. Therefore, better salary in dollars or pounds.

Obviously you are right bro. Bitcoin mode payment will be much faster reduce the charges for the companies who are all paying for us So there is opportunity to get a nice wage for our work. For all things its needs to be centralised with our government.
but if you have the opportunities of using bitcoin in your local market as we can see that the facilities of using bitcoin in most of the areas is not available, therefore these people cannot get their salary in bitcoin,

I think that even companies should be aware of bitcoins and looking at the price volatility I don't think that any company will prefer to invest money in it and the other fact is even all employees should know what bitcoin is, its not possible to pay few employees in bitcoin and  rest in fiat.
In general bitcoin cannot be acceptable as salary to everyone of us because there are people in the first place who not know how to operate bitcoin to spend it and provide the needs of their family, it could be acceptable to some employees only with the interest on bitcoin.
10811  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 09, 2016, 05:59:53 AM
in present time the best option is bitcoin because the price of bitcoin is going to increase so much, it is also expecting that the price of bitcoin will make new all time high price record in next few moths,

The price of gold has been quite steady to for a long period of time. Which is why i would like to buy gold too. Bitcoin is more a risky investment while with gold you can invest in a more secure way. Having both is a very stable investment strategy.
bitcoin is risky indeed but it's just fair with what you get if you're investing on bitcoin,the price could rising just in short term of time so such a profit for only short time while with gold it take an ages to get pretty decent profit unless you're investing big
It does not matter if it is risky as long as we have a great chance to make profit, that is why bitcoin nowadays are more popular than gold as a form of investment, people are more smarter now and with the information available in the internet, we can already analyze the future of bitcoin where our investment is put.
Bitcoin is much prefer for more people to invest because of the affordable price than gold but both has good return if you invest for a long term. And also bitcoin can make money easily specially in trading method.
A small investor wants a greater return and bitcoin has that kind of feature as an investment, this might be a risky investment but we are hoping to get greater reward on this compared to investing in gold, with limited capital we can invest with gold but we cannot maximize our profit.
10812  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: October 09, 2016, 05:56:18 AM
I choose bitcoin, why ? Because i think bitcoin have a good future and in the future people will use bitcoin as an international currency and i think the price of bitcoin will increase so high on that day.
That's right, the future of bitcoin really looks bright and we can easily cash out or sell our bitcoins for profit, in addition when we are in need of money we can use our bitcoins under that situation, bitcoin is more risky but it is way cheaper compared to gold so it is better for us.
10813  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Post on social media networks for 0.00012btc! Easy money (Round 2) on: October 09, 2016, 05:50:48 AM
This used to be 0.0012, right? Did you really add another zero to it or was it just a mistake?
I also remember this because I participated, maybe it was not successful in the round one that why there was a big deduction of the reward. But anyway, I would love to hear from OP about this because maybe he just mistype it.
10814  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: October 09, 2016, 05:46:38 AM
if you really want to save money, you should invest it in bitcoin, through this way your money will be safe and it will also give you a good profit by simply holding it for some time.
Don't Invest all your money into Bitcoin , you still need flat too whatever the situation it is , you still need to buy for your daily life.
But , If you planning your money and split a quarter into Bitcoin and managing them you can get lot of profit and have a lot of advantages for using Bitcoin as your Investment and currency.
It is just crazy to invest all your money in bitcoin and do not eat anymore. The basic principle in investing is only invest what you can afford to lose and that explains a lot that we should not put our money intended for our daily survival. We have needs and that requires money to be fulfill.
He can not consider his daily living, they do not even know that principle, put your all your money at risk is like putting your life into risks. We should always think more before we do something. We should be wise deciding in our life.
Yeah, and with that savings is better than investment if you are not too sure of what and how to invest. With savings there is not risk and you will accumulating money for your future as we cannot ascertain our future and problem may arise that we may need for money.
10815  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which Signature Campaign? on: October 08, 2016, 07:25:24 AM
You're a Jr. Member right now. It is not hard for you to find a signature campaign that accepts someone like you. There's a lot of signature campaigns actually in the Services Thread and you can look for some if you don't have one right now.
Yes, it's not hard, but in the future i'm believe if we'll rarely see any campaign which still accept low rank such like Jr.member .


Op, Since you already got accepted in WealthyDice Signature campaign, Could you lock this thread?

Its very  rare to find some signature campaigns  which do accept lower ranks and   when you try to apply on those sig camps you would surely need  to  have a good  post  quality for you  to be able to be accepted. As you mentioned and  i notice also that OP  does have already a  signature  campaign  which is  wealthy dice. He should  lock this thread to avoid  more comments  to come.
I seconded, this conversation should be over and this thread should be lock. I wish will listen to our suggestions here as we do not further prolong any repetitive discussions here.
10816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 08, 2016, 07:21:52 AM
1. Follow the tipster on this forum.
2. Bet on lower odds on favourite team at soccer match, because it has a high chance to win.
3. Don't bet on tennis, so many fixed matches.
4. Don't ever chase your loses when your bet is lose.
Is it really profitable to follow tipster in the forum, I have not seen anyone who are making great return by following a specific tipster, me myself would make sure that I would have to study the game before pulling the trigger, it is not fun to just follow others blindly.
I agree with you, you cannot ensure that their bets will win otherwise they would not give it and just use it for their own. But if you are really convince with that method, at least you try to verify also base on your capability to cap games.
10817  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: October 08, 2016, 07:18:06 AM
Well, I'm thinking of buying a house with bitcoin bitcoin someday if I am already very much, for now I think the focus on business is a very good thing to do. but if you already have a lot of bitcoin and was enough to buy a modest house, I think it is the right time to buy a house, because it was also referred a long-term investment

I agree, we have the right to dream and it is really needed so we have inspiration in life.  But  to make this dream come true we should have all the materials needed to fulfill it.  If we are lacking something then we  have to work for it.  Just waht hawkins said, if you have not much of bitcoin then, don't wait for it to become 10,000x higher instead work for it to multiply a thousand fold.
Yes, having big dreams based on bitcoin is not wrong. But having only dream with bitcoin but not taking any necessary steps must be wrong. We need to work hard in order to have enough bitcoins to fulfil our dreams. Without hard work we will not be successful even we are having the better system bitcoin.

To have our team into real, we must work hard to have all the required things particularly more number of bitcoins.

Yes, i agree with you, if our dream depend on only Bitcoin so it has clear mean that we should hard work with bitcoin, if we want to get reward from bitcoin. Otherwise only depend on thinking that i have bitcoin and one day it give me a big profit, So i think it is useless. 

Plan without actions would be  useless for sure, If we do have long term  plans  on bitcoin we  must start now to save  up  more bitcoin  to fulfill that dream but  as we all know  bitcoins  price is  unpredictable thats why  we are  a little  bit hesitant to go full invest with it.
WHy dont you wait for its price to increase again ? you can even get more profit form it. I mean, you can buy a more expensive house and also a car if you want to


yes it is better if we get more bitcoin to buy a home rather than waiting for bitcoin prices go very high, because it takes a very long time I think. so better to grow every day and gain any amount rather than hold and wait for bitcoin prices increase.

You have a point though  and  its a best way to  buy a house  when  we  already  have  such  big amounts  of  bitcoin  that we save as you said  we  could  save and save even  more and  we dont tend to wait for the price increase. I would surely  do the same thing  as long  i have stable earnings on bitcoin and theres already a merchant who sold  houses for bitcoin.
That's already a major accomplishment and the evidence of our success here in bitcoin, I should be very proud if I can do that as in my many years working with my day job, I have not bought a house on my own, right now I am still renting together with my family.
10818  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 08, 2016, 07:11:56 AM
bitcoin prices currently showing gains. a very good thing for those who want to buy bitcoin.
because in bitcoin 2016 prediction would be increased significantly. I heard about the rumor
It already increase the price if you mind, the rumors were real and we can see it in our very own eyes, this year is a success to us. With that being said, I guess it is just right to buy bitcoins now and wait for the price to increase more before this year ends.
10819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: October 08, 2016, 07:07:35 AM
The bitcoin is the biggest and I also think that it will stay the biggest because its growing very fast and it also has a pretty good future compared with other cryptocurrency's.
I think it will always win from the other ones.
Other coins will depend on the bitcoin because bitcoin is the first coin in crypto currency or it is the mother of coin. Bitcoin still remain at the top of crypto world considering the un-calculated number of users.
Other coins would be successful if they simply pulled together a community interested in seeing it succeed and got some merchants accepting and exchanging it. Those are two of the biggest barriers to entry for a lot of new coins, and a majority of the time (effectively all the time to be honest) the coins fail to meet both of these standards due to excessive speculation or other failures.

it is not easy. and you can't just go around gather people and invite them into using your altcoin.
they have to choose to use that altcoin themselves like what people did with bitcoin in early days.
right now we are only interested in altcoins as  way of making quick money from pumps.
Really, your interest in altcoin is not good for future when you are holding, the dump and pump game that happen in altcoins is only good for short term investment and if we are saying that it can replace bitcoin, that certain coins should have a very good potential to attract the interest and trust of the people.
10820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 08, 2016, 07:00:40 AM
i think sportsbetting is another option that we can play to make money if we know the info about sport especially in football, basketball and else. beside that trading can be a choice for us to make profit and we can stay for longer than to play gambling.
That is still gambling and although there is a chance to make money because of such games have no house edge but still you need to be skillful in order for you to win, the key here is to win consistently and without that you will lose in the long run.

It's not just limited to the skill but also the luck... Even if you know the teams that are going to win, sometimes tables turn and the opponents kill the opportunity for even the strongest teams to make it... Sometimes, luck is needed more than knowledge when you are gambling...
I would not consider luck in determining my chances to win in gambling, some people rely on luck but that would not give them as consistent win, the key to win in the long run is consistency and we can have that with proper study in sports that we are betting.
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