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10841  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 28, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
Yes. Someone else believes in Jesus Christ.


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Good News: This thread will NEVER get a Fatwa against the OP, no matter the amount of insults against his belief  Grin Grin Grin

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Edit: against or from.
10842  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A horrible thing someone could do to change the world as we know it. on: October 28, 2013, 03:31:28 PM
Already been done. I forget what it was called.. "Prediction market" or something like that. I guess it's an ever-present threat that keeps politicians honest. Wink

Nothing keeps a politician honest. I don't blame them. They need to lie in order to be elected. Look, nothing keeps some bitcoin users honest. Even bitcoin does not trust bitcoin.

The only difference between betting on a horse and betting on a politician's "odd" is: the horse does not monitor websites like this to then send a SWAT team after you.
10843  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A black box in your car? Some see a source of tax revenue (In the USA) on: October 28, 2013, 03:06:44 AM
Um that's dumb, why not just tax gasoline like almost every other country? surely the more gasoline you purchase,
the more miles you have driven.

Yap, there may be a hidden agenda here...

... And this hidden agenda is in plain sight:

http://www.nacdl.org/reports/thirdpartyrecords/

In February, 2012 NACDL’s Board of Directors adopted a white paper report on Law Enforcement Access to Third Party Records. Federal laws protecting individual privacy rights in electronic communications have not been meaningfully updated in over 25 years, even though many of today’s technologies were not even conceived of when Congress considered the legislation and when the Supreme Court created the “Third Party Doctrine.” Because of society’s reliance on third party carriers, such as Internet service providers, cellular phone service providers, and “cloud” computing services, to communicate, work and socialize, privacy laws need to be updated to keep pace with today’s evolving technologies. This white paper discusses the current status of the law, including federal laws such as the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, and Supreme Court precedent, including United States v. Jones, and concludes with recommendations for reform, such as a recommendation that law enforcement officers should be required to obtain a warrant based on probable cause before they can access the content of electronic communications or geolocation information.
10844  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Marine Corps Shoots Down Unisex Caps on: October 27, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
.....some complain it exudes a feminine air, despite being named for an especially bellicose Marine. And a change in design would have cost the Corps an estimated $6.9 million, according to a Marines spokesman.
so Obama does want the marines to wear girlie caps.

Maybe his old boyfriend likes them?

ROFL...

Reggie Love broke up with Obama? How sad.
10845  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Don’t ally with libertarians: Ideologues co-opt an anti-NSA rally on: October 27, 2013, 09:19:02 PM
Quote
...Thanks to Libertarian zeal, a bunch of unrelated points get a tiny bit of scattered coverage, while the main anti-spying point gets brushed under the carpet.

I should point out, that's mainly due to shitty media reporting and not to a particular ideology which is the mistake you and the author are making, I've seen other ideologies aside from libertarians get trapped by media reporting as well, look at Socialism and Communism.

Socialism and Communism were trapped by the Media? Hopefully next time they will have a much better propagan... I mean a much better way explaining their methodology, using social networks and crowd sourcing for the cause.
10846  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A black box in your car? Some see a source of tax revenue (In the USA) on: October 27, 2013, 06:57:23 PM
That's the "user pays" approach, widely used in bridges and highways, but how they want to enforce in this particular case it raises many privacy concerns, and everyone should be against this, and I hope other countries don't follow.

There are many other ways for taxing drivers, I pay a tax every year for owning a car and there are taxes on gasoline, no need for a black box in my car...

Is this going include taxi cab and car rental businesses? How about people in rural communities who need their car all the time? So if you are loaded you can take your private plane and that is fine. I wish I had a private plane like Al Gore. But if you are barely doing OK and you only have your Ford 150 for everything from business for the farm to carry the groom to the wedding, somehow you need to pay more the more you use it?
10847  Other / Politics & Society / A black box in your car? Some see a source of tax revenue (In the USA) on: October 27, 2013, 05:28:05 PM
And I though that crazy idea was for our Euro friends only  Sad


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-roads-black-boxes-20131027,0,6090226.story#axzz2iwNczDu0

The devices would track every mile you drive —possibly including your location — and the government would use the data to draw up a tax bill.

WASHINGTON — As America's road planners struggle to find the cash to mend a crumbling highway system, many are beginning to see a solution in a little black box that fits neatly by the dashboard of your car.

The devices, which track every mile a motorist drives and transmit that information to bureaucrats, are at the center of a controversial attempt in Washington and state planning offices to overhaul the outdated system for funding America's major roads.

The usually dull arena of highway planning has suddenly spawned intense debate and colorful alliances. Libertarians have joined environmental groups in lobbying to allow government to use the little boxes to keep track of the miles you drive, and possibly where you drive them — then use the information to draw up a tax bill.

The tea party is aghast. The American Civil Liberties Union is deeply concerned, too, raising a variety of privacy issues.

And while Congress can't agree on whether to proceed, several states are not waiting. They are exploring how, over the next decade, they can move to a system in which drivers pay per mile of road they roll over. Thousands of motorists have already taken the black boxes, some of which have GPS monitoring, for a test drive.

"This really is a must for our nation. It is not a matter of something we might choose to do," said Hasan Ikhrata, executive director of the Southern California Assn. of Governments, which is planning for the state to start tracking miles driven by every California motorist by 2025. "There is going to be a change in how we pay these taxes. The technology is there to do it."

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No wonder Elon Musk's concept of the Hyperloop, although open source and cheaper than anything else being built right now, is not going to fly. Government needs its taxes!

http://youtu.be/I8sOxSa3j3g
10848  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anti NSA Rally on: October 27, 2013, 05:06:30 PM
Going to an Anti NSA rally if you are smart about the details of surveillance is not a good move. But sending "proxy robots" and have their pictures taken instead of yours is a better move.
10849  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NSA accused of spying on Merkel's phone on: October 27, 2013, 04:02:19 AM
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/spionage/obama-billigt-lauschangriff-auf-merkel-33140378.bild.html

(google translate)

     For, according to information from Bild am Sonntag in U.S. intelligence circles of the President 2010 by NSA chief Keith Alexander was personally informed about the covert operation against Merkel.

    “Obama has the action did not stop, but continue to operate,” said one of the NSA operation against Merkel intelligence officials familiar Bild am Sonntag.

    And not only that: Later at the White House ordered the NSA a comprehensive dossier on the Chancellor. For Obama, the senior NSA man, Merkel did not trust, wanted to know everything about the German: “Who is this woman exactly”….

    After Obama’s initiative reinforced the NSA eavesdropping activities against the Chancellor. They were not confined to the cell phone of the party CDU leader. The Americans cracked according to the information and the new, supposedly bug-proof phone that Merkel received only in the summer. This evidence to show that the eavesdropping attack against Merkel ran up to the recent past.
10850  Other / Politics & Society / Marine Corps Shoots Down Unisex Caps on: October 27, 2013, 03:58:51 AM
A follow up on that obvious fake foxnews link from the WSJ

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/10/25/marine-corp-shoots-down-unisex-caps/?dsk=y&mg=blogs-wsj&url=http%253A%252F%252Fblogs.wsj.com%252Fwashwire%252F2013%252F10%252F25%252Fmarine-corp-shoots-down-unisex-caps%253Fdsk%253Dy

The Marine Corps has shot down plans to make male and female leathernecks wear a unisex cap with their dress uniforms.

The Corps has been redesigning its female caps and was exploring the possibility of issuing a single cap for men and women. As we reported earlier Friday, a survey this week was meant to gauge interest in which of two options would work as a unisex cap—but critics said one new prototype was too feminine.

Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos has put an end to the matter. “The survey was incorrect when published and has been pulled. The Marine Corps has zero intention of changing the male cover,” he said in a statement Friday.

Changing the hat design has been a decade-long process of military boards, field trials and prototypes. A Marine spokesman said the impetus for a potential unisex design was simple: “the manufacturer of the female cover is going out of business…a lot of uniform items aren’t cost effective to make,” he said.

In 2002, the Female Uniform Symposium decided the current women’s cap needed redesign because it was expensive and many complained it was not as spiffy as the male version.

In 2007, Marine officials approved a new, improved female cap and in 2012, as it neared implementation, the Commandant of the Marine Corps jumped in, delaying procurement of new caps and ordering experts to explore the idea of a “universal” cap to be worn by both sexes.

This summer a new cap was tested for “fit and function” with the majority of females approving of the design.

In online surveys, some Marines suggested the new female cap resembles the design worn by Marines in the early 1900s, most famously by Dan Daly, twice the recipient of the Medal of Honor and famous for yelling to his men in battle, “Come on, you sons of b—–s, do you want to live forever?”

Once it became known as the “Dan Daly cap,” the design became a candidate for universal wear. But some complain it exudes a feminine air, despite being named for an especially bellicose Marine. And a change in design would have cost the Corps an estimated $6.9 million, according to a Marines spokesman.
10851  Other / Politics & Society / Re: It seems that the HVD or (the technology of HVD) is a technology of the NSA !!? on: October 26, 2013, 11:41:22 PM
,,  Your comments!¿

                     . . .

A font size of 9 is fine too.
10852  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I found a Christian I actually agree with on: October 26, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXINEYdnkY

Ignoring the pop music, I have finally found a Christian who has overcome religion and focused solely on the very point of Christianity: to be like Christ.  She has accepted her views as incompatible with reason, because they do not belong together; she has allowed herself to breathe, to experience life without the burden of carrying some life's mission to make everyone like her, for she has accepted, if Christianity is the true method of living, people should flock to it naturally: by being like Christ, opposed to be a "Christian", she will show why she believes Christ's ethics are superior to others.  This is the same ethic followed by Libertarians; "prove it's better and people will follow", where in contrast, it is the Authoritarian who feels the need to convert, for people would otherwise not naturally follow.

As an atheist, I applaud her, and I was certainly pleasantly surprised; I was expecting another "be like me or burn in hell" video.  I sincerely hope this is a coming trend, because I've known far too many "Christians" who are anything but Christ-like, and yet still want to call themselves so because they went to church and read the Bible.  Likewise, to abandon organized religion is to further decentralize the power religion can hold over us, thus making a person more inclined to be lawful around their fellow man than simply abiding by what the central source says (which we have seen, in both religion and politics, what such central power is capable of.)

Edit: Also, what the hell is going on with the fellow with the hebrew name?  I think he's having a breakdown.

Not too many are willing to live in barns, visit prostitutes, hold the hands of lepers, Turning the other cheek and willing to die for their belief.

No one told me to believe in a superior mind. It felt natural for me. I understand why the opposite exists also. One of my favorite video is the conversation with Jillette's book and Beck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3LnVa7zXgc
10853  Other / Politics & Society / Follow up on: October 26, 2013, 11:09:37 PM
http://www.computerworld.co.nz/article/530149/protesters_call_an_end_nsa_mass_surveillance/

    A crowd of about 5,000 people, chanting “stop spying, stop lying” and “hey, ho, mass surveillance has got to go,” marched through Washington, D.C., Saturday to protest the U.S. National Security Agency’s mass surveillance programs unveiled in press reports this year.

    Protesters, from a seemingly wide range of political beliefs, called on the U.S. Congress and President Barack Obama to end mass data collection and surveillance by the NSA. [...]

    Another popular sticker, from antiwar group Code Pink, featured lipstick marks and the message, “Make out, not war.”

    Rally attendees said it was important for them to be at the event, although some were unsure if it would make a difference.

    Showing up at the rally was a way of “doing something” instead of just complaining about the NSA, said Lauren Schreiber, community outreach and event coordinator at the Council on American Islamic Relations in Washington, D.C.

    The Muslim community in the U.S. has long been the target of surveillance, she noted. “I feel like if the government doesn’t respect the very basic right of privacy, then all of our other rights are going to be trampled,” she said.
10854  Other / Politics & Society / Don’t ally with libertarians: Ideologues co-opt an anti-NSA rally on: October 26, 2013, 05:29:11 PM
So I watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmiw_rrNxk

Then I thought "Those people are mostly on the Big government centralized power b.wagon, but I have zero problem about what they are for in this video."
Finally those with a more anarcho capitalist or libertarian blah blah views and Big-Hollywood-I-am-rich-but-you-should- not-be crowd agree on something from time to time.

But then of course I was wrong:

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/21/dont_ally_with_libertarians_ideologues_co_opt_an_anti_nsa_rally/

    Don’t ally with libertarians: Ideologues co-opt an anti-NSA rally

    “We demand the U.S. Congress reveal the full extent of the NSA’s spying programs,” is the basic demand of Stop Watching Us.

    This is a vital cause, and I agree with it.

    Yet I cannot support this coalition or the rally. It is fatally compromised by the prominent leadership and participation of the Libertarian Party and other libertarian student groups; their hardcore ideology stands in direct opposition to almost everything I believe in as a social democrat.

    The Libertarian Party itself — inaccurately described by Stop Watching Us as a “public advocacy organization” — is a right-wing political party that opposes all gun control laws and public healthcare, supported the government shutdown, dismisses public education, opposes organized labor, favors the end of Social Security as we know it, and argues in its formal political manifesto that “we should eliminate the entire social welfare system” while supporting “unrestricted competition among banks and depository institutions of all types.”
10855  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 26, 2013, 05:10:02 PM
This one is hilarious.  Fox News eagerly perpetuating a story from a tabloid as if it's true despite the Marine Corps Commandant today revealing it's a completely false story that never happened:  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/24/obama-wants-marines-to-wear-girly-hats/  And it's still on their website as if it's fact.

The story isn't completely false, and did not originate with the New York Post.

It comes from the Marine Times.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20131021/NEWS07/310210028/Marine-Corps-seeks-feedback-on-universal-cover-for-men-and-women

It is amazing what a little bit of critical thinking using a tool call the internet can do. Some, mostly librarians living between miles long bookshelves, would call it a modern day miracle! Cheesy
10856  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Partnership between Facebook and police could make planning protests impossible on: October 26, 2013, 04:52:28 PM
It's crazy that people still use Facefuck/Twatter, plenty of alternatives to the CIA/NSA/GCHQ database:

http://pump.io/
https://diasporafoundation.org/
https://www.gnu.org/software/social/
http://movim.eu/

Thank you for all those links. I only remember reading about diaspora a while back.
10857  Other / Politics & Society / How can you tell when a politician is a liar and or a hypocrite? on: October 26, 2013, 04:44:48 PM
When this politician is launching a review about policies he signed, reconducted  and re enforced twice so far  Wink



President Obama orders review of U.S. spying as world leaders push for new limits on surveillance

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_162-57609443/president-obama-orders-review-of-u.s-spying-as-world-leaders-push-for-new-limits-on-surveillance/

(CBS News) Foreign leaders - some of them top allies of the United States - are furious with the National Security Agency's snooping. European leaders are pushing for new limits on U.S. surveillance, and President Obama is feeling the heat, ordering a review of whom the U.S. is spying on and why.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, "We wanted to ensure we're collecting information because we need it and not just because we can."

It's not enough for the leaders of Germany and France. Both countries want a halt to eavesdropping on leaders, companies and law-abiding citizens after allegations the National Security Agency gathered tens of thousands of French phone records and hacked German Chancellor Angela Merkel's cell phone.

The German leader said trust has been severely shaken and something had to change. The spying revelations come from leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden - reports that the U.S. had spied on 35 world leaders. Brazil's president canceled a state dinner after learning she was a target. Spain's prime minister says he'll summon the U.S. ambassador.

But Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron pointed the finger back at Snowden, saying the leak of classified information would make it harder for his and other countries to keep citizens safe. He said, "What Snowden is doing, and to an extent what the newspapers are doing in helping him doing what he's doing, is frankly signaling to people who mean to do us harm how to evade and avoid intelligence and surveillance."

The U.S. already has a no-spying agreement with four countries: Great Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Senior officials in the White House tell CBS News they're giving allies a heads-up on what may come next as a result of Snowden's leaks. They also say the White House is open to talks with European governments about a no-spying agreement. Germany and France want to be added to the list. And Brazil is leading a push for a United Nations resolution to limit intelligence gathering. If it passes, it will be non-binding.
10858  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 26, 2013, 02:23:17 AM
So do we agree if a story is coming from foxnews it must be fake all the time and should be banned?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/white-houses-fox-news-boy_n_331437.html
ya - I see a lot of derision and snide remarks in this thread.  But nothing little about the ethics of the OP topic.  I think this means they might agree that the Army's position and actions are wrong, but at the same time they don't like seeing missteps of the administration out in the light of day.  Of course I could be wrong - but we're just left to guess about this, since they don't want to discuss the fact that the Army is snuffing the liberties of its soldiers.

Maybe I am wrong but I got less allergic reactions from an alex jones link than a foxnews link. I find this funny as there is no such thing as an agenda free news source. Some loves RT but this won't be the best place to learn about Pussy Riot for example.

If you care about Freedom and not just yours you need to know what ''they'' do to ''others''.

I like The Onion. Smiley




Yep! Me too
http://youtu.be/cCyPAaubENE
10859  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Partnership between Facebook and police could make planning protests impossible on: October 26, 2013, 01:52:23 AM
It's crazy that people still use Facefuck/Twatter, plenty of alternatives to the CIA/NSA/GCHQ database:

http://pump.io/
https://diasporafoundation.org/
https://www.gnu.org/software/social/
http://movim.eu/

It's the beginning of the end for Facebook and others and the start of an amazing opportunity for the built-up of tools that no one can control or stop. Some coding genius should see this as great news.
10860  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 26, 2013, 01:35:16 AM
So do we agree if a story is coming from foxnews it must be fake all the time and should be banned?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/white-houses-fox-news-boy_n_331437.html
ya - I see a lot of derision and snide remarks in this thread.  But nothing little about the ethics of the OP topic.  I think this means they might agree that the Army's position and actions are wrong, but at the same time they don't like seeing missteps of the administration out in the light of day.  Of course I could be wrong - but we're just left to guess about this, since they don't want to discuss the fact that the Army is snuffing the liberties of its soldiers.

Maybe I am wrong but I got less allergic reactions from an alex jones link than a foxnews link. I find this funny as there is no such thing as an agenda free news source. Some loves RT but this won't be the best place to learn about Pussy Riot for example.

If you care about Freedom and not just yours you need to know what ''they'' do to ''others''.
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