At first there will be several companies competing each other, but eventually they will be merged/bought by super captalists and then capital will take over the operation, finally end up in the bank's control
And, if the banks did not do a good job, you have no other choice
For garbage service, I saw one guy who had his own garbage company. He bought a truck that could hold 6 garbage cans in the back. He would go out in the morning, pick up the full garbage can and drop off an empty. Then go drop the garbage off at the dump. Even if he only did 6 houses per day, that is 180 houses a month times $10 each per month...$1,800 per month income just for owning a truck and making a garbage run every day. $2,600 per month if he makes two trips a day. A corporation could buy him out. Then the next guy would go out and buy a truck and do the same thing...
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And...everyone is forced to pay for fire service. Some people may not want the monthly option as I did not.
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One problem with that is that if you do that then it might be the case that nobody will pay until their house is on fire and there won't be any money to maintain the service. It's kind of like the problem with health insurance. If you allow people with pre-existing conditions to join then nobody will join until they are sick.
Obviously not since my fire station gave me an option when I moved in. Pay $20 per month OR pay $2,000 to put out a fire when it happens. I opted to chance it and not pay the monthly fee. And the private fire station is still going strong with top ratings.
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If bitcoin dies then I will buy as much of it as I can and do all of the mining with my GPU at work for free.
I will then start selling once all 21 million are mined.
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How does one get power there. Is it bestowed to you at birth?
Everyone is born with inalienable rights. How quickly they are suppressed is another question.
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I have already addressed this issue a hundred times. The problems with all the libertarian proposals are fences, barriers, edge effects, inconsistent application, entrusting stewardship in part to those who are ignorant of effects, greed, fragmentation, etc., etc., etc.
You cannot stop greed. The best you can do is direct it toward being beneficial. Exactly. Read the thread on Guiding Markets. And regarding using your imagination, by all means, get to it. There are environmental issues out there that need imagination. But you need to understand things like edge effects, trophic cascades, riparian zones, ice albedo feedback loops, biodiversity, etc. while applying your imagination. Using your imagination and using brain power to come up with solutions is a much better way than just fighting humanity, as tends to be the environmentalist solution.
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I have already addressed this issue a hundred times. The problems with all the libertarian proposals are fences, barriers, edge effects, inconsistent application, entrusting stewardship in part to those who are ignorant of effects, greed, fragmentation, etc., etc., etc.
You cannot stop greed. The best you can do is direct it toward being beneficial. To try to fight greed only works with guns and oppression.
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But leave the vast expanse of ocean out there wild and free.
Before Hawker responds, I figured I would help him out with this one. Hawker: But what about people who want to go out and fish? How can you keep boats out of the ocean? What if the Japanese Navy wants people to kill whales, there is nothing you can do about it. How are you going to stop people from going to the beach? People on beaches step on ocean creatures. How do you stop that? 80% of people live within 2 miles of the ocean, how will you keep them out of the water? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimming
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I am saying that if you try to interfere with the fishing fleet of a nation, they will defend their fleet.
It is great that you are coming up with all of these "holes" that nobody has considered with seasteading. But you may be enlightened to actually do some research to know that others too have considered it and look for ways at solving them. http://www.seasteading.org/search/node/defendingOf course, government is always the concern. Somalia is being stifled because of UN attacks. The answer to most threats of war is to trade peacefully with a nation and its citizens so that attacks would be unproductive and harm the nation doing the attacking as much as the one being attacked.
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The person just needs to understand the ability to accept Bitcoin and the ease to do so, is not going to get in the way of established business they get, it can really only bring in more.
+1 People want to spend money called bitcoins. Would a business like to take their money? of course. Would the business like to get dollars into their bank account like they do with credit cards? of course. Does the business care what the heck a bitcoin is? probably not. it's just something that lowers their risk and cost of doing business. If we stick to that message, you don't overwhelm or confuse anyone. This. With bit-pay, a merchant does not need to know nor care anything about Bitcoins other than the fact that it is easy to set up (NO SETUP FEES), he can expand his customer base and that the transaction fees are cheaper. Most importantly, that he can get paid in cash just like with a credit card.
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How much do you know about marine ecosystems? You want to propose solutions and defend those solutions? Then acquire knowledge.
I have acquired plenty of knowledge on free market environmentalism. What knowledge do you have of it? Perhaps you should acquire knowledge. A good start would be "Healing our World" by Mary Ruwart http://www.ruwart.com/Healing/chap8.html
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Your vision of herding whales like livestock and using nets to demarcate property boundaries across the ocean is absurd.
The whales would probably not be conducive to nets, but fish would...and they do already as the story posted shows. For whales, GPS would be an option. The tragedy of the commons is that, without ownership then it is a free for all. First one to get it all wins. With no consequences. This is the same with the government leasing out timber land and other natural resources to be bleed dry with no considerations for the future use of that land. If someone actually owned it, they would want the value to continue forever.
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Yes - you've been called out. Your vision of herding whales like livestock and using nets to demarcate property boundaries across the ocean is absurd.
And you would rather treat humans like cattle instead? Or perhaps sheep?
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And if a warship comes along...the small community becomes history.
To be clear...are you saying that the use of force by a government against someone that has not initiated force against that government is a bad thing?
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Your scenario sounds like cattle ranching, which is destructive to the environment.
You were asking about saving the whales... Last time I checked the cattle population has done nothing but climb...at around 1.3 billion as of 2009. Such growth at even 1 millionth through property rights would be worth it.
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You've already been called out because of your ignorant post about nets.
Wow, I have been called out. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The article I quoted is speaking of harvesting fish. Nets are not a new concept in fish farming. Badinotti produced and sold more than 153 fish farming nets and 59 birdnets for the new farms that are coming offshore the Tunisian sea, in the first seven months of 2010; a total production of over 90,000 kg of nets is expected. http://www.badinotti.com/news.html![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.badinotti.com%2Fimages%2Fnews_tunisia.jpg&t=663&c=QhhNGRrYJsQPSQ)
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Again, the key issue is that the Japanese and every other nation with a navy has to accept your "seastead" I love the concept, but to scale up to the point where is matters, it will need a navy to defend it.
That is the key issue? Really?
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Completely irrelevant. A decommissioned oil platform reconfigured to become a miniature city does not qualify as homesteading the ocean.
If a small community evolves in an area of the sea and creates an economy based upon harvesting and herding fish/whales, then they will be very resentful toward any ship coming into their proximity to steal their livestock. And they would have the incentive to encourage replication and growth of the fish and whale populations. While having the incentive to protect it.
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he seems to be completely unaware of the aesthetic quality of wilderness, unspoiled by humans.
You seem to be completely unaware of the aesthetic quality of purpose built engineering that fulfills a need.
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