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10861  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 10, 2016, 03:02:27 AM
bitcoin the best investment
because you can very fast growth you money
but bitcoin is not good long time hold , this good every day use trading pair altcoin or fiat money
every day buy and sell take profit
I beg to disagree with your statement because as far as I know bitcoin is a good investment especially when you are holding it for a long term investment. The value of bitcoin as what we have seen now is growing and the price in the future could be bigger than the current as it will increase substantially.
10862  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 10, 2016, 02:55:03 AM
If you want to get rich in future then you need to work hard on it and also you need to have your own business as you will never get rich with the job, and if possible try to have multiple sources of income.

If that won't make you rich, for sure that would make your life easy.. I think that's the key to success, working hard and from your earning put up a business and earn from it... Though I think that won't be a shortcut and you might taste the fruit of it  later on, which I think would be a good preparation for our retirement...  Smiley
Correct starting a business is the best way to get us rich, then if the capital of your business is came from your hard work i think it will more successful specially we need to manage it well for our future.
Yeah business can make us rich either in real world or in digital world, my plan to become rich is to invest good amount in trading and keep on making profits on regular basis.
Well, if you can be successful with trading that would be good for you but in my case I need to study first on how to consistently make money in trading. I want to have at least a consistent income as I believe that is the key to be rich in gambling.
10863  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: October 10, 2016, 02:42:40 AM
You can make a little bitcoin doing signature campaigns and faucets. You can also do lending and trading. However all of these will only yield small amounts but it adds up over time.
As long as you are a hard working person you can always find a way to make money online and in this site, there are a lot of offers although majority of them are just micro jobs but with focus and you spend a lot of time you can make a decent income in overall.

Earning with faucets are not enough for your daily needs but that is going to be a good additional way of earning. And I would say that if you are going to be so hard working that you are able to get a lot of active faucet claimers and you are going to make a face book group and you will reward some small reward if they claim with the use of your referral, I think this is going to be effective.

you are mistaken my friend.
you should do some calculation and then start to value your time a lot more than what you are giving it right now.
faucet work needs a lot of time that is a wasted time and you get a very small amount so it is a terrible addition.
I think stop talking and working is the right thing, than you do not have any method to obtain bitcoin, the faucet is not a problem to do? but if you already have a plan or method to get bitcoin and it is worthed than the faucet, just do it dude



That is needed if you are going to start earning with bitcoins. Because if you are going execute that with proper planning for sure you are going to be able get profit out of those plans. And faucet is going to be one of your way to get good profit with bitcoins. It only applies if you are going to be one of the faucet owners.
No question about that because you are owning the faucets and you will benefit much on the hard work of the others.

Me, I just have to work with signature campaign as I cannot get any lessons in faucets just doing a simply job the requires a lot of time and effort, with signature campaign I can develop my learning as well while I earn.
10864  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: October 10, 2016, 02:06:09 AM
The price says the value of one thing. Just look at the rare things that have found by some archaeologist. They cant even sell it because of their large amount of value and some will make a high price just to buy it. Same with bitcoin where it grows in price as demands go higher because of its rarity.
But it is different thing with bitcoin because the price is base on the supply and demand. If the demand increases, of course the price will also increase and that is the good thing as we have seen the demand has increased even for this year alone. We should be happy now as we earn profits.
10865  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: October 10, 2016, 02:02:42 AM
Definitely and we can only achieve that if we continue to support bitcoin.
Our future is bright because more and more people are adopting with bitcoin and we are very bless that we belong to the early phase, now it will matter if we will take this opportunity to invest as in the future the price will certainly grow substantially and we will be able to earn from our investment.
The whole question of how long the process will take and there does not appear during this time a new alternative in the digital world.
In my opinion we cannot determine what would be the exact time it will happen, but of course if you are a bitcoin believer you are optimistic that the future of bitcoin will bring your profit with your investment. Just start to invest now, even if you will just slowly save in bitcoin that is already a great move.
10866  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would happen if BTC was Banned? on: October 09, 2016, 07:54:58 AM
If BTC will be ban, I think we will not progress anymore, when it is ban that means it is illegal to use this anymore and for sure people are not gonna be using it as they do not want to compromise their life and their future, but I hope that time will not come as that would be the worst moment of every investors here.
10867  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you doing with Bitcoin? on: October 09, 2016, 07:51:21 AM
Most of my activity with bitcoin involves a lot in gambling, actually I am a sports handicapper but not really the professional one and I have found great sports book that accept bitcoins so it give me a lot of comfort and convenience to me to gamble online.
10868  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: October 09, 2016, 07:18:23 AM
An amount as small as 100 euros is small enough to start trading with. For beginning traders I recommend even starting with a small amount. It takes time to get the basics of trading. From my point of view:

1 Dont put your stakes to high

2 sell your coins at the appropriate time, but beware to take profits once you can gain some 'free coins'
 
That is a good advise but if you are just starting a little amount of capital, I think it is just right not to withdraw when you have a small profit, beside you would not expect to earn big profit with small capital, maybe just roll the amount with your profit so you can grow your coins.
10869  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: October 09, 2016, 07:12:07 AM
if you are planning to purchase a bitcoin right now,it is better to purchase when it is low and dont sit on your purchased coins rather than spend some time to learn how to trade and look for good investment opportunity and multiply your coins.

 

Current price cannot be considered too high for buying and its a good price to buy and if you cannot afford the price then you can buy 0.5 at a moment and start using it in trading and if everything goes smooth with you then you can take that amount to 1 btc in coming months.
It is really cheap for me also, this price is not high for you if you will invest for a long term investment but if you are a trader you need to have the right timing before buying and only you can determine that upon looking at the trend.
10870  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 09, 2016, 07:05:57 AM
The best way for a steady income is to just have a job because Bitcoin is not going to let you have a steady income because the Bitcoin is not stable at all time.
Just take a job because then you will be sure that you earn money every month.
Bitcoin is not stable it does not mean that we cannot get a steady income from bitcoin. We have saw some bigger variations in the price of bitcoin but still there are a lot of people who are getting a good benefit and a steady income from bitcoin that is why bitcoin is loved till now.
I think if you want to get a fixed income in bitcoin, you do not need to think about prices in bitcoin, because prices will always go up and down and will not be stable. therefore look for a job that gives a fixed income like a signature campaign

If a person find a signature campaign like your one then it will be really a fix, but yet it is not enough to earn with signature on your profile as the earnings are much lower. with that you also have to adopt some other jobs and tasks etc.
Exactly, and there is always a big possibility that your signature campaign that you are currently in will stop their promotion. Maybe just find a real day job in the physical world and with that you can grow in a company that gives good benefits to their employees, that will provide job security for you.
Correct signature campaign that we are participating are not for life that is why for the meantime we need to collect bitcoin to them as many as we can to have a capital for investment in other method that we can able to earn bitcoin.

It's true that earning from signature campaign is temporary and we cannot rely on it for the lifetime so try to earn as much as possible from it till it exist and meanwhile start getting trading lessons.
Yeah, and that is just an opportunity to increase our income so we need to find a good job that will give us a stable income and do not rely solely on your needs in signature campaign as it can never be enough your earnings here to live a comfortable life. When you have a good job, you can start being more ambitious like investing and trading with big capital.
10871  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: October 09, 2016, 07:03:24 AM
I have my new goal just to day i just realize that if im going to spend so much bitcoin in gambling website in just like wasting money , Throwing money or giving my money  we need a stable job where we can get money and monthly salary and save it , Plan to make small business like selling foods and etc until it will become succeed and everything will follow Smiley)
That's a better idea than gambling, starting small is good as it only requires a little amount of capital and if you are good you will succeed and surely time will come that you will be able to earn a bigger amount of income bigger than you ever dream to win in gambling.
10872  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: October 09, 2016, 06:58:45 AM
if bitcoin is famous like a bank , i will choose bitcoin and only using bitcoin, but in fact bitcoin is not famous as we think, and only few people who using it, so i must using both of them.

Sad to say but you are right bitcoin really is not that known all over the world, that is why we are giving the opportunity to share it to other people so that the community would grow
That is expected already mate because we are just in the early phase and the adoption is not that big, when this continue to increase people will be attracted with bitcoin and eventually we will grow as a big community, it really takes time.
10873  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 09, 2016, 06:39:10 AM
bitcoin prices currently showing gains. a very good thing for those who want to buy bitcoin.
because in bitcoin 2016 prediction would be increased significantly. I heard about the rumor
yes i also suggest to buy bitcoin in the present time, as it is expecting that the price of bitcoin is going to be increase so high in next few months so if some one interested he should buy bitcoin right now.
I think you can not force someone to buy bitcoin that moment, because every person must have a reason and a certain criteria before trying to purchase bitcoin, yeah bitcoin is growing even though you think everyone knows that, but of course they will be looking for the right time to buy
And it is not good to force them to buy bitcoin when they do not understand it very well, we can advise them but what matters is that they are also convince with their decision to buy bitcoins, we all know that it is a good investment in the long run but we do not want someone is blaming bitcoin for his wrong decision.
This is depending on the capacity of its person, more users of bitcoin has no investment they have bitcoin by just participating in signature campaign and they do not need to buy because they earn lot of bitcoin specially if they are a higher rank.
Well, lucky for them because they have the opportunity to earn, but my opinion is if you are not earning big working online that is still not enough to hold that for your future, so you will be force to buy if you want to have a bigger income in the future.
Though if you earn small time but if you are not sending to the useless stuff just storing it in yyour wallet and always receiving every week and you are not sending to every one it could be big in the future ! Just keep earning and you should not  send it to the stuff that is useless.
That's going to be a long wait and requires a lot of patience and discipline, you can only that if you have a full time job and you do not need the income you earn in bitcoins, but if this is your only job I think it would be hard for you to save a decent amount.
10874  Other / Off-topic / Re: If i give you 10 BTC what will you do? on: October 09, 2016, 06:30:32 AM
Money is primarily independence from one or both of something. Of course a lot of problems can not be solved with money, but most of them if money is solved. You can immediately pay off debts. This is the first thing to do. Invest the money in order to feel confident, too, need.
Personally I will not use bitcoin to pay debts, is my opinion that is better to pay them with fiat and keep your bitcoins at all costs since bitcoin is such a great investment.


Yeah bitcoins should be saved for the future to get higher benefits from it as it price will be much higher in future so its better not to spend them at a moment and  keep them for the right time to sell.
I think most of us here cannot really hold our bitcoins in the future as needs will arise anytime and we do not have an extra money to spend, only those people who are rich already have the capacity to hold int he future as they have good discipline than us.
10875  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 09, 2016, 06:26:46 AM
just for have fun and for use relax time i think

You are right just have fun and relax and only spend what you can afford to lose.  Because i guess  the common  problem that gamblers are facing right now is that most of them gamble to earn so they become stressed instead.

I have been gambling for quite awhile already and I am practicing an emotionless way of gambling and it proves that I get not that stress because when I lost a session, I just go ahead for another session - those losses are part of the calculations and if the odds is in your favor, then you will emerge as victorious against the casinos.. You win some, you lose some.

But we both know that most of us do thinks like you does, even if they tried on they just cant i believe that you have already mastered self control well i guess through your experience

yeah experience definitely will be your better teacher when gambling. though there are people who even at the beginning have self control already to make sure they don't gamble beyond their means and just try to enjoy gambling with what they have. i think this is an intelligent way to gamble.
Lucky for them if they have already a self control so they will not lose more money in gambling. But for others although they have been playing for a long time, they cannot learn how to discipline themselves in gambling that is why they keep losing in the long run.
10876  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 09, 2016, 06:23:23 AM
No one here knows how to be rich otherwise they would be rich already, posting on bitcointalk wont make you rich, gambling wont make you rich and trading wont make you rich unless you are already pretty wealthy and you know what you are doing, people who think you can make 100 bitcoins with 1 trading are dellusional. Not saying it's impossible but it's just highly unlikely and it would take a lot of time, years and years
I disagree, if that was right then there will not be class mobility, the fact that someone is not rich right now does not mean he does not know how to do it, becoming rich takes time.
Becoming rich is always in the heart and mind of a person, if you encourage yourself to be rich you will do everything to achieve that and your intelligence, skills, and talent will bring you there, if you are good in managing a business you have a big chance to be rich as most of the rich people are businessman.
10877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 09, 2016, 06:16:37 AM

Not true when you have a target to stop after hit your winnings target and when you are closer with your winnings target it will make you a hurry to achieve it and sometimes you will get a defeat because you are not careful.
If I were in that situation, I would rather stop than to achieve that target because I am satisfy of what I have won, I just play for fun and that is my bonus for what I enter, and that is gambling that is really risky, but if you see gambling as a simple game, it will always fine for you to play.
Good point playing gambling just for fun will allow us not to be stress if we lose i like the idea if we win it is just a bonus with the fun and excitement that gambling brings.
Yeah Because we all know that gambling is very risky so I don't really get serious about gambling. And I don't focus on gambling. For me this is just a game when I am bored that I can use to.
Yes, you are perfectly correct. If you think the gambling is just made for our entertainment, Then you will not lose much money in gambling. While playing the game ofcourse in the long run win everyone gets excited, and people will think to make more profit. But they don't know at the end of the game we will lose everything. So if you control your mind, then you will not lose in the long run. 

I disagree that even you are going to control your mind and it tends that you are just enjoying then tendency you are not going to take care about your money. So, even you are losing that is going to be fine with you because you are just aiming for entertainment. And in the end that is just going to tell us that everyone is just going to lose in the end.
It is fine to enjoy your money as long as you use the amount that is only intended in gambling. there is no wrong of having an entertainment in gambling. As long as you know how to manage yourself or your financial.
Definitely, because gambling is for entertainment but it is just natural to spend money in gambling to enjoy otherwise we are not gambling at all. As long as fun is only your aim in gambling, you will have no problem as you can control your self and you can minimize your loses.
10878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 09, 2016, 06:13:06 AM
I never get rich from gambling, don't know why it's really hard to win big from gambling. Because everytime i win some, in the end i will lose it all.
Well i think it will become difficulty to rich from play gambling, because we just use our lucky and i don't find method in playing gambling to wins constantly. Except we have our website of gambling and taking fees on there, although it will need much money and time.
You are absolutely right its very difficult to become rich with Gambling its all game of luck if you have good day then you can take some good profit otherwise at the end most of punters in lost some time its very difficult for them to manage this lost

Luck could make you rich though! Like in lotto if you win then you become rich Cheesy Same as gambling  if you are lucky enough in big bets or something yyou always wins then you could earnn a lot of profits then make you rich enough Cheesy.
It's true but have you considered your chances in winning lottery, I think there are only few who got rich in lottery and millions have lose their money in gambling, I myself are also hoping that I will be rich in the future but I do not rely that now in gambling because  I have realize that chances are low.
10879  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: October 09, 2016, 06:08:59 AM
Paper money will be still there in the future but it will loose considerable amount of people using it.It is supported by the governments. Even when paper currency value falls down, government would change their policies to make its price stable.
Yes very important to us that paper money coz we use it everyday in our daily living. And paper money can not lost it coz we need that.

Is there going to be a need for a separate machine when the paper money is gone?

Everyone needs more paper money. They will be used for a long time. There are many situations in which you can pay only paper money. And the state does not allow as easy to remove them
yes and the reason is that bitcoin is still not so much popular as it is still a new crypto currency and still not a good number of people are using it, therefore bitcoin is not a threat to paper money in near future.
There is no such thing can replace paper money and correct bitcoin is not a threat in the centralized currency even bitcoin would be more popular it would only alternative currency we can used specially in online transaction.
Bitcoin is a threat but not a big threat, bitcoin is a very small currency compared to the paper money that we are using now, although we are going to the digital world but the government does not eradicate paper money because they know there are people who cannot adopt the digital world.
10880  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: October 09, 2016, 06:05:35 AM
I can understand a little of the economy, but they say that in the state of money as much as gold, and this is equivalent to the entire production on the market. And then what to do if someone wants to replace all currencies in the bitcoin. I have little faith in it. Therefore, better salary in dollars or pounds.

Obviously you are right bro. Bitcoin mode payment will be much faster reduce the charges for the companies who are all paying for us So there is opportunity to get a nice wage for our work. For all things its needs to be centralised with our government.
but if you have the opportunities of using bitcoin in your local market as we can see that the facilities of using bitcoin in most of the areas is not available, therefore these people cannot get their salary in bitcoin,

I think that even companies should be aware of bitcoins and looking at the price volatility I don't think that any company will prefer to invest money in it and the other fact is even all employees should know what bitcoin is, its not possible to pay few employees in bitcoin and  rest in fiat.
In general bitcoin cannot be acceptable as salary to everyone of us because there are people in the first place who not know how to operate bitcoin to spend it and provide the needs of their family, it could be acceptable to some employees only with the interest on bitcoin.
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