Most of that comes from a brief period when pools were generating a huge number of huge transactions to do tiny payouts. At the present time the rate of growth is about 5 MB per day or <2 GB per year. I would show a graph of this but monerochain is down right now.

It's not really typical from what I've seen. Most of the shills/sockpuppets just post one or two lines and can't avoid making obvious grammatical errors even then. This Rias guy seems to be somewhat different. I have no idea what his connection to bytecoin/cryptonote might be if any but he's not a run-of-the-mill shill.

I will say that a while back Rias asked me if I was part of bytecoin, which is a bit of a laugh, but you would think if he were part of bytecoin he would know whether or not I was. Of course, one can imagine all sorts of spy-vs-spy theories like that he asked me just to make me think that he wasn't part of bytecoin, etc. But I actually don't think he's one of them, probably just someone who was intrigued early on and got involved. I do agree the line up of dates, etc. between Rias and DStrange is odd, but I'm not totally convinced by this part of the story.

It is pretty clear at this point that they are either one and the same or closely related.

I originally bought into the whole "separate organizations" story but when cryptonote started backing up the sham story about bytecoin being two years old in the deep web, they outed themselves.

I don't know why they have set things up this way with two apparent faces, but they are not independent.

There are already GPU miners (though they don' t have a huge advantage), so I'm not sure what he is talking about, but if you can find out more I'd certainly like to hear it.

Nope. I just lost interest in bitcoin for a while when the price crashed (which is why my account is not Hero by now). If someone were to buy an account from 2011, they'd be pretty stupid not to buy a Hero account.

You're likely wrong about every single one of your accusations against Monero (I didn't take the time to go through them all) but this one is probably the most silly since everyone can verify that every single file in the Monero github has a Cryptonote copyright notice (don't shoot me if one or two are missing).


Nothing is being passed off here. Everyone knows that Monero is a cryptonote fork, and apparently cryptonote is in favor of forks. They even provide their own automated tool to create a cryptonote fork: https://cryptonotestarter.org/

So I have no idea who the hell you or what your agenda might be but accusing Monero of plagiarism of the cryptonote code is way off base.

It is also false with respect to any bug fixes that have been merged from upstream (or elsewhere). They have been credited as far as I know. If you know of a case where that did not happen let me know and I will have it fixed.

It is off topic if you are talking about the lack of fair launches generally. We could certainly have a good discussion about what best practices might make coin launches not only more fair but more transparent and verifiably fair. But not here.

As for this coin, I agree with the developer that the issues with this coin's launch have been discussed here over and over again. Anyone researching it can and will find that information in Google.

Do you have anything new to add?

Valid point but way off topic. Take it elsewhere.

Given the 10 year smooth curve the number of coins per block is approximately constant over the so-far short life of the coin so just take the reward of (about 242) coins and multiply by the current height (29619) = 7167798. Not exact but good enough.

Stop being a troll and an idiot please.

Look at the BBR list of features and I quote (with bold emphasis added):


The change in BBR is removing of mining dust, as I said.

XMR does remove non-mining dust. You obviously don't understand the handling of dust in the cryptonote design. It is somewhat clever.

I think most of your post is nonsense (for example removing mining dust is not only trivial but mathematically provable as trivial) but I agree with this part and I think BBR is a reasonable "second cryptonote" to hold as a hedge.

That is exactly one day before Bytecoin launched. Coincidence? I don't think so.

What may have happened is that Satoshi, Cornel West and the rest of the Bytecoin team got together over a beer and decided to push their new multisig technology onto the Bitcoin blockchain as a hint of the bigger things to come.

Duh. God you're stupid not to know this. Rethink your fucking strategy already.

This thread was created because because Monero was already getting enough speculative interest to attract rpietila's attention. Look at the graph on the old OTC thread. There was a day in mid-May when 50K XMR traded at a price of about 0.001. That's 50 BTC which is a huge amount for a coin not even trading on any major exchange at all! On May 20 (6 days before this thread), it traded over 100K XMR.

So yes that early period played a huge role.

Although...in my experience syncing usually maxes out my CPU (which is faster than his) so that argues against scaling. I guess we need to dig into this some more. 

I have an idea. It might be frequency scaling. You will get poor performance with the quick bursts of CPU activity of verification but not mining. If this proves to be true we can probably at least optionally bypass scaling during resyncs. I'm interested in both the log data crypto_zoidberg asked for as well as single thread mining speed.

Sure but why would he be syncing at only 4 blocks/sec? That's a very low rate.

The 4200U has AES-NI so verification should be extremely fast...much faster than 4 H/s. If you try start_mining 1 in the wallet and then do show_hr in the daemon what hash rate do you get?

I'm pretty sure you are seeing some other bottleneck besides the hash algorithm, though what that is exactly I'm not sure.

How exactly does that work on the Monero Speculation thread?

Looks like you made a wrong turn and ended up here by mistake. These things happen.

They're just troll/spam accounts that for some reason have now adopted a strategy of posts that are just as poorly written as the previous I-hate-XMR posts but are now I-love-XMR. Why they are doing this (other than increasing post count) I have no idea.

That's a hash rate of 4/sec. Doubtful the PoW algorithm had much to do with this. What device is it?

PoW is not the only difference between BBR and XMR. Another is many more transactions on XMR. Or you may simply have been connected to slower peers.