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14221  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Building a rig but at-odds regarding the components. on: May 22, 2011, 03:57:37 AM
Wow man thanks a LOT. But I have but one wee question. How can I know if a mobo thas 2 video card slots? I read them on newegg but on video I only see the slot is pci-e

Here's the kind of thing to look for:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130574

Check the Details tab. Notice that it says "PCI Express 2.0 x16        2", which indicates that there are two pci-e slots.

And if it just says "PCI Express 2.0 x16" without mentioning how many, then that almost certainly means there's only one slot.

Note that you CAN use x1 slots (and they work just as well for mining) but you need to use some kind of adapter/and or mod the hardware.  Not for everyone bit it can give you some more (cheaper) options for MBs.
14222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Save my SSD! Bitcoin is eating it ALIVE! I/O Write's on: May 22, 2011, 03:52:51 AM
What's the point of having a SSD if you don't use it?

You use it for things that don't do a lot of I/O.

OP: When you are ready to sell your used SSD, send me a PM.

Smiley BTW.
14223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could JS Bitcoin Mining Replace Google's Adsense? on: May 21, 2011, 11:52:42 PM
so, http://bitp.it/ allows you to make mining using the CPU power of the user who visits your web site?
this use of CPU from the user is of the 100%? it slow down the computer?

Yes, no different from the way visiting any web site could slow down your computer, for example with a lot of flash ads.

Web site owners who do this (either with a miner or lots of flash ads) better be giving their users a lot of value or people will avoid visiting the site, although it's true that the miner is less obtrusive visually at least.
14224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could JS Bitcoin Mining Replace Google's Adsense? on: May 21, 2011, 08:56:37 PM
In short no.

1. The bitcoin JS miner makes very little money compared to ads.  

2. There is no incentive to remove ads just because there is a JavaScript miner on a site.  If the miner ever makes sense (maybe with WebCL), sites will just do both.



14225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's wrong with Bitcoin? on: May 21, 2011, 08:25:31 PM
Good point and as long as the answer to a question is "we can update the client if we need to" then we are not (yet) dealing with a distributed anything.

Also worth noting that a majority of the network has to agree with the changes in the client and update as well, so it does have a distributed nature regardless. Although, as the network currently stands, as long as a few of the large pool operators update, it is enough.

There is a distributed mechanism to block future updates but not to distribute them.  If the bitcoin.org domain name is seized and the main developers arrested or sued or otherwise intimidated, it would be a long time before the majority of the network figured out what to update to, if anything.

These problems are solvable most likely but just saying "we can update the client if we need to" in response to an actual vulnerability is not a long term solution.
14226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's wrong with Bitcoin? on: May 21, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
a disconnect between the glib claim that the client can be updated in response to any threats and the difficult practicalities of doing that whenever it's contentious. it reflects the centralization that always comes back to haunt distributed technologies.

Good point and as long as the answer to a question is "we can update the client if we need to" then we are not (yet) dealing with a distributed anything.

Worth keeping mind though that everyone involved recognizes this is a work-in-progress.  Criticism on that basis is constructive.  Criticism that fails to recognize the work-in-progress status of the project is a straw man attack.
14227  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Give me your bitcoins before getting raptured! on: May 21, 2011, 02:25:30 AM
I'm offering rapture insurance. 

If the world ends May 21, I will pay out 100 BTC for every unit of insurance purchased for 1 BTC.  Offer ends at 07:00 UTC.

1L7TCH2e79bR6sRHbBHGsxJbHtuTCkMqxD

Are you trying to steal my business?  That man is not to be trusted!  Grin

Different service.  You are offering safekeeping.  I'm offering insurance.  Good to have so many options in these uncertain times.

14228  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Give me your bitcoins before getting raptured! on: May 21, 2011, 02:23:16 AM
I'm offering rapture insurance. 

If the world ends May 21, I will pay out 100 BTC for every unit of insurance purchased for 1 BTC.  Offer ends at 07:00 UTC.

1L7TCH2e79bR6sRHbBHGsxJbHtuTCkMqxD
14229  Other / Meta / Re: How does one DELETE an account here on: May 20, 2011, 10:38:14 PM
I'm not making money, I been scammed repeatedly by Bitcoiners for hundreds of BTC,  I bitch no much and I'm just irritating ...

soooooo ... how do I terminate my account here??? I can't find the option? Anyone?

Send me 200 BTC and I'll tell you.
14230  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Open Source FPGA Bitcoin Miner (Just Released!) on: May 20, 2011, 03:31:54 AM
Not if your fpga small scale rig need to compete with AMD costs, who manufactures millions of GPU's a year.

We'll see.  AMD devices do a lot more than just bitcoin hashing, and also FPGAs are manufactured in large quantity as well.

But you may turn out to be right.  Time will tell.  I'm definitely grateful that this open source contribution is being made, even if FPGAs turn out not to be the way to go for bitcoin.

14231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why don`t prices follow difficulty change? on: May 20, 2011, 03:21:54 AM
The best answer is that difficulty increases are already priced in.
14232  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Open Source FPGA Bitcoin Miner (Just Released!) on: May 20, 2011, 03:20:03 AM
Sure, I would like that improvement too. Numbers made only to show that "fpga is taking over btc" not possible at this moment.

Not necessarily.  This one won't take over bitcoin mining, that's for sure.  But that's quite different from other people may already have (most likely do) and what this might evolve into.
14233  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Open Source FPGA Bitcoin Miner (Just Released!) on: May 20, 2011, 03:13:50 AM
Nice, and many thanks for the release.
Now, some rough calculations.

At 80 MHps, I will need at least 3 of these to achieve a single 5830 hashrate.
That is $595.-x 3 = $1785.- at full price, vs. $190.- for the 5830.

Giving the 5830 is consuming $11.- a month in electricity, and assuming this board will consume zero electricity, it will take more than 145 months, or 12 years to recover the investment, always comparing to a 5830.

Is it really cost feasible ?

You answered your own question.  But don't hate.  It's open source being released, others can improve on it.  No telling where it could lead.

14234  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Worth buying a med-level card for mining in spare time? on: May 20, 2011, 02:28:48 AM
try this

http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php
14235  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Proprietary FPGA cluster miners will kill the Bitcoin project on: May 20, 2011, 01:34:33 AM
The idea would be to come up with something as proof-of-work that GPU's wouldn't be good at.

It's hard to predict what processors (CPU/GPU/xPU) will look like in the future but perhaps something can be done that is based on physics, like the speed of light.  If the speed of calculation is limited by latency between distant nodes, there is no speeding it up.  Issues like pipelining would have to be considered, etc.
14236  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Ubuntu Natty Narwhal 11.04 Mining Guide / HOWTO on: May 20, 2011, 12:30:48 AM
When executing this

Code:
sudo aticonfig --initial -f --adapter=all

have this back

Code:
sudo aticonfig --initial -f --adapter=all
Uninitialised file found, configuring.
Fail to link to fglrx-libglx.so, please check whether driver is installed correctly
Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Saving back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-1

don't know how to fix this, can someone help me?, have 2x6990's in a non crossfire motherboard, but already achieved in windows to got it working (3 cores bug)

You can ignore that error.  The files it is trying to link aren't needed.
14237  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Cost efficient mining hardware project on: May 20, 2011, 12:22:14 AM
Just thinking out loud here.  You say 500Kh/sec (maybe you made up this number?).  The low end "good" GPUs today are about 300Mh/sec.  So you would need 600 of these chips to equal one GPU.  Is that really going to be feasible in terms of h/$ and/or h/W.
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