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10921  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Democracy a bad idea? on: September 30, 2011, 10:06:44 PM
led by Andrew Jackson, which became the Democratic party in 1844

Jackson's opponents used the nickname of "Jackass" to demean Jackson. He went with it. That is why the Democrat Party mascot is a jackass.
10922  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A new system of voting based upon Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 09:02:29 PM
still get the protection. 

From whom?

From people who are violently mentally ill.  Surely you could read that?

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The ones who don't vote to pay for care of the violent mentally ill still get the protection.

Whom will provide the protection?
10923  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A new system of voting based upon Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
still get the protection. 

From whom?
10924  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul Cheering Entrance California on: September 30, 2011, 08:21:34 PM
Also this PPP Poll:

"This may be the most positive poll for Paul that we've ever conducted- he leads by 15 points with independents (against Obama) even as the rest of the Republican candidates trail Obama with that voting group."
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/09/florida-close.html

It is the independents that choose presidents.
10925  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul Cheering Entrance California on: September 30, 2011, 07:37:37 PM
how could he possibly win?

He is beating Obama 51 to 49% in a national Harris poll.

http://harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/HarrisPolls/tabid/447/mid/1508/articleId/870/ctl/ReadCustom%20Default/Default.aspx.
10926  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A new system of voting based upon Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 07:03:30 PM
One of the services you will need to provide is care for the violent mentally ill.  

Why do I need to provide that?

Because you don't want random people to be hurt.  It could be you.  Or your daughter.  Or your Mom. 

Ok, then what does that have to do with how a group votes on spending their own money?
10927  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A new system of voting based upon Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 06:14:37 PM
One of the services you will need to provide is care for the violent mentally ill. 

Why do I need to provide that?
10928  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Guiding Markets on: September 30, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
The market needs to be guided at the point of a gun.

This is the moral way of doing things.

 Roll Eyes
10929  Other / Politics & Society / Re: With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: September 30, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
Your logic assumes that the fire service can be provided cheaply and that each house has one owner. 

Not at all. And it is not a theory, it is a real thing in the real world. It does not have to be cheap, it has to be what property owners are willing to pay. Each house can have multiple owners, it does not matter.

And in an apartment block, if 1 person out of the 100 or so apartments has paid for the fire service, the other 99 get their fires put out for free as you can't save just one part of one floor of a building.

Are you completely ignoring the answer to this question that has been posted at least three times in this thread? Do not most buildings with separate owners pay association fees? Is the door man paid only by a few people? Is the upkeep of the building done by taxpayer money or through some sort of building fee? The fire fee can be paid in this exact same way.

Someone would have to go out of their way as a building owner to not pay for fire service. The fire department even offers to charge you for the service call if you do not pay a monthly fee, which is covered under most insurance plans. And the private fire company was able to cut home insurance plan costs by 75%.
10930  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally is starting on: September 30, 2011, 05:49:24 PM
Looks like

10931  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally is starting on: September 30, 2011, 05:47:45 PM
Where do you guys see these walls? Is there a good visual way to see all open offers?

http://mtgoxlive.com/orders
10932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Assistance Needed for 2012 Bitcoin Convention on: September 30, 2011, 04:58:45 PM
San Antonio is a good place for it. I would have suggested Vegas because it is a good destination spot and they tend to have cheap flights to encourage gambling.

But I used to live in San Antonio and March is a good time of year. There is plenty to do in San Antonio as well for the tourists (river walk, Sea World, Six Flags, etc).

You will certainly get quite a lot of Austin folks, you may also want to hit up the San Antonio Ron Paul meetup group, they were pretty huge and would probably be interested in Bitcoins.
10933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: E-mailing merchants to ask if they can accept Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 04:41:52 PM
I replied with a short message saying that bit-pay allows you to accept Bitcoin and have it automatically converted to cash, cheaper than a credit card.

Unfortunately, bit-pay can only pay in cash if the business is US based. Also, I'm not sure about the "cheaper than a credit card part". They charge some fees for the service...

I do realize that they pay in USD, but the owner seemed like an American who opened a business down there. And she mentioned in her e-mail that "We don’t like credit cards much (fees are outrageous from the IP address here in CR)".
10934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: E-mailing merchants to ask if they can accept Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 04:38:41 PM
 However, if the person doesn't perceive themselves to have a need for what you're selling and you're too presumptive (i.e. "What! You mean you don't accept the currency that 0.001% of the people on Earth use!  What's wrong with you?"), too incessant, or too forceful, then they just become annoyed and resentful.  

I agree, I tried to be as non-pushy as possible.

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Thank you for the response. My wife actually owns a boutique (http://www.heidijosboutique.com) and we have worked with a company called bit-pay http://www.bit-pay.com
we use them to do Bitcoin transactions easily over her cell phone. They have it set up so that you can get paid either in Bitcoin or they will
convert it to cash for you and transfer it to your bank account.

No, I am not affiliated with bit-pay. I just like how easy it is to pay through them.

I can understand about needing cash. Same with my wife's store. Wholesalers need cash.

I am hoping to pay for most of my stay in Bitcoins as that is my "play money". Your resort looks like it would be very relaxing.
10935  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Democracy a bad idea? on: September 30, 2011, 04:30:28 PM
Our vote hasn't decided anything, ie, there was no power given to it - therefore it is not a demonstration of democracy.

Well, according to liberals, with a majority of scientists saying that global warming is true makes it so.

So if a majority of Bitcoin forum users believe that democracy is a bad idea, then it is. You must accept it. Laws must be put in place based on it. Taxes must be passed to deal with it.
10936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impressive bitcoin one liners for non bitcoiners on: September 30, 2011, 04:20:10 PM
There are 10 people in the world. Those who understand Bitcoin and those that do not.
10937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BofA and debit card fees on: September 30, 2011, 04:02:27 PM
The banks just make things easier for us.


BofA is a gift to Bitcoins like Obama is a gift to liberty.
10938  Other / Politics & Society / Re: With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: September 30, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
Elwar as I said earlier, that works fine if you have a rural county.  In a city with blocks of housing and expensive fire trucks, it won't be practical.  You have to be able to enforce payment by everyone or else no-one gets an adequate service.

Expensive fire trucks? So the Martinez fire department has cheap fire trucks?

As for city housing of high rises, do they not have association fees? Every condo I have ever checked into has had those. I would assume that those fees could include fire prevention. With so many customers in such a small area you could get a lot of money from each building. Plenty for "expensive fire trucks".

Or if it is just a building rental with tenants, it would be the building owner who pays the fees.

My fees were $20 per month. With a building with 1000 condos that would be $20,000 per month going to the fire department. Plenty for any fire they may need to put out in that building.
10939  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Democracy a bad idea? on: September 30, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
From the democratic vote, democracy is losing.

Those who like democracy must accept that it is a bad idea.
10940  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A new system of voting based upon Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 03:46:49 PM
It's called a Democracy because the majority of the population are happy with the choices that are being made. If you want 100% of the population to agree on something and are willing to essentially use force to coerce people into voting for what you want it's essentially fascism.

Did you bother to read anything up there?

What part represents force?

If I don't consent and I don't contribute, then what?

You would likely not receive the benefits of whatever the group spends their money on.

The system is purely voting on where money is spent. It has no enforcement power other than to spend money.
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