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10941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Democracy a bad idea? on: September 30, 2011, 03:39:07 PM
Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Would be so much fairer if it was 2 sheep and 1 wolf and if there was no vote?

Sigh.

Yes. The decision would be "grass".
10942  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / E-mailing merchants to ask if they can accept Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 03:36:53 PM
I am going on vacation in a month in Costa Rica so I started e-mailing local hotels and B&Bs asking if they accept Bitcoins or if they have never heard of them if they would check them out as I want to use Bitcoins for my trip.

Most of my responses were along the lines of "We only accept credit cards or cash".

I did get one response that said she had looked into Bitcoin and found it quite interesting, but that they were a new business and needed to have cash. I replied with a short message saying that bit-pay allows you to accept Bitcoin and have it automatically converted to cash, cheaper than a credit card. (this was yesterday, no response yet).


So I was wondering...what if more people started e-mailing these merchants? If someone were to get an e-mail once a week or so from someone asking if they accept Bitcoins, they may give it some careful consideration.

What if we put together an e-mail group or something where people offer up e-mails of places they would like to go spend their Bitcoins with a small description, then have several different people periodically send e-mails. Hotels, bars, restaurants, stores, websites, whichever. Maybe set up a program so that once someone e-mails a merchant the e-mail goes to the bottom of the list and does not come up until everyone else has been e-mailed (so they do not get 10 e-mails in one day asking about Bitcoins).

These would be places that people would actually want to spend their Bitcoins, so it is not like the merchant would start accepting them and then nobody uses them.

Thoughts?
10943  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally is starting on: September 30, 2011, 03:23:09 PM
Holding steady at one price would be decent.

At least the decline has been much slower. It used to fall about an average of one dollar a week. It has been hovering around this price for about 3 weeks.

This means that we are just about at that point where enough interest is coming in weekly to make up for the inflation rate.

If the price can hold steady long enough and maybe start to rise a bit with more use, then it is nothing but UP when the inflation rate is cut in half.
10944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Impressive bitcoin one liners for non bitcoiners on: September 30, 2011, 03:14:48 PM
I usually say that Bitcoins are in that early stage known mainly by computer geeks. Kinda like the early days of the Internet.
10945  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China again——it was on TV this time on: September 30, 2011, 03:12:10 PM
Can somebody please translate what is being said besides where they play the bitcoin commercial?

I wouldn't count on a big popularity swing yet, if we would have seen a more significant spike on the network, hell it didn't even surpass germany.

The spike in trading tends to lag at least a week behind big news as people figure out how to change their money into Bitcoins.
10946  Other / Politics & Society / Is Democracy a bad idea? on: September 30, 2011, 03:09:36 PM
Basic question. This will clear it up once and for all. Is Democracy a bad idea?
10947  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: September 30, 2011, 03:06:21 PM
I'm amazed no one has pointed out that free education for children is socialism.

Free education for children is socialism.

I'm amazed

Well, there is the caveat that there could be free education that is not socialist.

Teachers could decide to voluntarily provide their services every day. Janitors could volunteer to take care of the school. Construction workers could volunteer to build the building. Donors could donate materials.

Or someone could voluntarily give their money to pay for the school for the child's free education.

Or the child can be home schooled.

Otherwise someone has to pay. Or under socialism you steal money from someone and give it to the school.

It's called tax. That's how teachers get payed

I already covered that...
10948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A new system of voting based upon Bitcoin on: September 30, 2011, 03:03:16 PM
Wrong. That's exactly what you want to avoid.

There was also the part about each new member of the group requires a vote by everyone else. So if your group does not want you to have more than one share they can just vote against you getting another share. If they want more money coming in and like your ideas, then they may allow it. That would be up to each group.


You forget that people tend towards greed. A system where someone with the most money can buy all the votes they want is a bad system.

Yes, people do tend toward greed. It is better to work in a system that is productive based upon this fact than try to fight it.

If you have a group where the same guy keeps buying up the votes, the remaining members can EASILY drop the group and form their own. That is the point of this, it is very fluid. You stop paying dues and you are no longer a voting member. You do not like how the club is being run. Drop out and join one that you do agree with.

The point of this is to have people join others with similar interests and goals and put their combined money toward those goals. On a voluntary basis. And if there is not agreement, the group will be slow to growth.

And the solution that satisfies the most people in the group will always win. Because there will always be that delay to allow for better ideas that satisfy more people to be presented. With the goal of finding a solution that satisfies everyone.
10949  Other / Politics & Society / Re: With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: September 30, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
As for fire services and suchlike I'd rather have the government running the fire service as a non-profit than have a company using it to get all the money they can.

Why must the government run the non-profit?

Here is the fire department I used to have:
http://www.columbiacountyga.gov/index.aspx?page=4065

Quote
Martinez–Columbia Fire Rescue is a non-profit service organization providing fire protection and education, vehicle extrication and rescue, medical first response, and other services to the citizens in the unincorporated area of Columbia County.

Martinez–Columbia Fire Rescue has seventeen engine companies strategically located in the unincorporated area of Columbia County.   Fourteen stations are fully staffed twenty-four hours a day,  and three stations are fully equipped un-staffed stations that are covered by volunteers. The department is a combination career paid and volunteer organization with one hundred and seventy (170) members, along with a business office staff and a 24/7 fire dispatch center.  Training of these personnel far exceeds the state mandated training requirements and all are certified firefighters or in training to achieve this goal. Most are medical first responder, EMT, or paramedic qualified also.

The Martinez–Columbia Fire Rescue fire safety education program has been recognized for years as one of the premier programs in the state of Georgia. The Department has always held the philosophy that it is easier to prevent fires than to put them out.

Martinez–Columbia Fire Rescue has achieved a Class 4 Insurance Rating through a national rating firm. This benefits the citizens of the fire district with a seventy-five percent or better discount in their homeowner's insurance premium.  This is well above the average in the state of Georgia.
10950  Other / Politics & Society / Re: With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: September 29, 2011, 08:05:38 PM
Though in Texas I did live in a few places that I could choose my electricity provider. I ended up choosing the windmill power company at one location.

Worked out well because the other company had to burn gasoline when the capacity was maxed out which cost extra money for electricity at those times. And that was when gas was around $5 per gallon. The flat rate was higher than the other for the windmill company but it turned out to save me a lot of money.

Choice...aint it grand?
10951  Other / Politics & Society / Re: With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: September 29, 2011, 08:02:54 PM
My electricity is [a privately-owned regulated monopoly]. My water company is [a privately-owned regulated monopoly]. My sewage company is [a privately-owned regulated monopoly].

Fixed that for you.


True. I am not a big fan of government created monopolies.

With private roads they could run several separate systems under the roads to people's houses and charge each company rent for it. Thus allowing competition.

I am actually going to run for commissioner of my local water company just to keep them honest.
10952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just over $5,500 per day required to maintain current Bitcoin price. on: September 29, 2011, 07:58:32 PM
Adam goes out and builds an ecommerce site that does 10 BTC in commerce per day...   that is roughly 50 dollars of economic growth the BTC community has... and effectively the economy grew by 50 dollars.. per day...    this would be subtracted from the 34,000 that must grow per day for the community.

The exchanges are only PART of what the bitcoin economy is,  and as you stated.. really only 1/6th of the total value.

If he did 10 BTC in commerce a day that involved someone transferring their dollars into BTC then that WOULD require the exchanges.

If Adam has an apple tree and Lisa has an orange tree and they trade apples to oranges all the time. Then Joe offers $1 for one of the apples, all of the apples become worth $1. If Adam grows ten apples a day and continues to trade with Lisa for oranges but has 1 extra apple each day that he trades with Joe then the apple community needs $1 per day to maintain the current price. Even though he creates 10 apples per day, only 1 accounts for its dollar price. He does not need $10 per day to maintain the $1 price.

If Joe and Tim show up and want that one apple, they might bid the price up to $2. He does not now need $20 per day in sales to maintain the $2 price.

The dollar price is set on the portion of Bitcoins that are being traded for dollars. And that is currently 1/6th.
10953  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Let Greece Default! on: September 29, 2011, 06:38:05 PM
Greece needs to crash in order to move forward. They have crashed already, they just need to acknowledge it to move on.
10954  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: September 29, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
I'm amazed no one has pointed out that free education for children is socialism.

Free education for children is socialism.

I'm amazed

Well, there is the caveat that there could be free education that is not socialist.

Teachers could decide to voluntarily provide their services every day. Janitors could volunteer to take care of the school. Construction workers could volunteer to build the building. Donors could donate materials.

Or someone could voluntarily give their money to pay for the school for the child's free education.

Or the child can be home schooled.

Otherwise someone has to pay. Or under socialism you steal money from someone and give it to the school.
10955  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: September 29, 2011, 06:13:40 PM
Why does it have to be an extreme form of socialism?

It is as ok as just having a little bit of cancer.

Sure it may not kill you, but most likely all of the bad things that are happening to your body are most likely related to the cancer.

And then there is the fact that it has been known to grow.
10956  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people in USA fear socialism so much? on: September 29, 2011, 06:10:55 PM
I'm amazed no one has pointed out that free education for children is socialism.

Free education for children is socialism.
10957  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Tea Party are Economic Terrorists on: September 29, 2011, 06:08:35 PM
The Tea Party was started by Ron Paul supporters Dec. 16, 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvGS12EoZUE

The whole point was that they were fed up with the establishment media ignoring Ron Paul and pushing their liberal choice, McCain.

The groups continued as Obama brought in his health care scheme.

Then the regular Republicans started showing up thinking that it was an anti-Obama protest. Not understanding where it all started.

Reminds me of when my cousin used to smoke pot and he would throw the seeds out the window. Eventually the seeds grew into a plant and my grandma had some friends over
and they were all intrigued by such a pretty plant. She said she did not know what it was called but gave them each a few leaves to take home.

If only tea partiers knew how the current Tea Party movement got started.
10958  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Democracy on: September 29, 2011, 05:05:29 PM
why isn't every country a socialist utopia.

Why isn't every country a rainbow colored unicorn?
10959  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A new system of voting based upon Bitcoin on: September 29, 2011, 04:09:03 PM
Wrong. That's exactly what you want to avoid.

There was also the part about each new member of the group requires a vote by everyone else. So if your group does not want you to have more than one share they can just vote against you getting another share. If they want more money coming in and like your ideas, then they may allow it. That would be up to each group.
10960  Other / Politics & Society / With no taxes, what about firestations and garbage service? on: September 29, 2011, 03:59:36 PM
I see this all the time when mentioning getting rid of the income tax. "Hope your house isn't burning down, there will be no firemen to come help you." or the idea that you would have a huge pile of garbage because your tax paid garbage service would not show up.

Outside of the fact that the income tax pays for the federal government and fire stations, garbage service, etc is paid through property taxes, I still get disturbed by this.

Why do people believe that a fire station can only be run by tax dollars?

I lived in a county once, the population was a few hundred thousand people, that had a private fire department.

When I moved into my house I was mailed a letter with the private fire company's rates. I had the choice of paying $20 per month for full coverage, or there were fees for services. $50 minimum for a service call for small things such as a small kitchen fire or such and a maximum of $2,000 for a full house fire which it said that my homeowners insurance should be able to pay.

I have also had private garbage service at most places I have lived. I now pay $10 per month for garbage pick up. They come out 2 times a week and do a good job. If they did not do a good job I would just call another company.

My electricity is private. My water company is private. My sewage company is private. My current fire company is public. They used to be private but the county wanted to take over all fire services in the county so they snatched them up via eminent domain.

My property taxes are very low. I pay about $1,500 per year on a house valued around $200k.
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