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1101  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Electrum - a new thin client on: June 01, 2012, 09:01:25 AM
So you just saying google predicted how many estimated titles their are? I can throw out a big number too (sarcasum)

So then the average user probubly have nothing to worry about as not many people to my knowledge have access to search against the google book database with bitcoin seeds and i doubt those who have the entire google book database will only attack those wallets with high amounts of value in it(which if this is the case i doubt someone/entity would use a sentence from a book and would instead use a randomly generated password that is like a million characters in length)

I am saying it is not safe to use a sentence from a book as your seed. Do not do that. Never.

Anyone can access a digitized library, loop over all sentences, derive Bitcoin addresses from them, and check them against the Bitcoin database. It does not take a vast amount of resources, and time is on the side of the attacker. There is already an instance of Bitcoins that have been stolen because someone created an address derived from a short phrase (it was something like 'fuckyou' iirc). It only a matter of time until someone uses a large book database to feed their search algorithm.

And, no, I was not throwing a big number. 130 million books is ridiculously small in terms of search. If we assume that each book contains on average 10000 sentences (a very generous estimate), we get around 10^15 sentences to test. In contrast, a random seed with 128 bits of entropy yield 3.4x10^38 combinations. Do you understand the difference between those numbers?

Do not trust people who tell you that you can safely derive the seed yourself. Train your memory and learn a purely random seed.


Ah i see high rate of probability of figuring out the seed now with the formula you presented.
I guess it really isn't a good idea, but to be fair 'fuckyou' is more like a dictionary attack or a commonly used password then a complete sentence out of a book.

Regardless of my perspective/opinions,
Thank you again for your insight.
1102  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Electrum - a new thin client on: June 01, 2012, 07:42:22 AM
Not sure if it was discussed here or not,
but I think the easiest way to memorize your seed is to:

1) Pick up your favorite book
2) Remember the page number
3) Remember the number of the sentence from the top of the page
4) Compute md5 of that sentence and you got your seed!!!

So it comes down to remembering just two numbers and your favorite book instead of twelve random words.


this is not safe. An attacker can (and will) try all the sentences of the known litterature.

That could be why is mentioned picking up your favorite book making the literature unknown(unless the attacker was there when you picked up the book to type in your sentence)

http://www.geek.com/articles/news/google-books-calculates-the-total-number-of-books-ever-written-at-almost-130-million-2010086/

So you just saying google predicted how many estimated titles their are? I can throw out a big number too (sarcasum)

So then the average user probubly have nothing to worry about as not many people to my knowledge have access to search against the google book database with bitcoin seeds and i doubt those who have the entire google book database will only attack those wallets with high amounts of value in it(which if this is the case i doubt someone/entity would use a sentence from a book and would instead use a randomly generated password that is like a million characters in length)
1103  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Electrum - a new thin client on: June 01, 2012, 05:30:39 AM
Not sure if it was discussed here or not,
but I think the easiest way to memorize your seed is to:

1) Pick up your favorite book
2) Remember the page number
3) Remember the number of the sentence from the top of the page
4) Compute md5 of that sentence and you got your seed!!!

So it comes down to remembering just two numbers and your favorite book instead of twelve random words.


this is not safe. An attacker can (and will) try all the sentences of the known litterature.

That could be why is mentioned picking up your favorite book making the literature unknown(unless the attacker was there when you picked up the book to type in your sentence)
1104  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [IDEA] - Ripple-like system for Bitcoin investments / p2p insurance on: June 01, 2012, 05:18:28 AM
This sounds pretty well thought out, I would love to use this system(maybe in the future help develop it when i have time). Subscribing!
1105  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [2 BTC Reward] How to find out, which address send me bitcoins via an API on: June 01, 2012, 04:24:39 AM
I'm pretty sure he wanted exactly what I showed him on a sample page on my site, but I haven't heard back from him even though he logged in today. 
I actually figured that Smiley but just in case the OP needed something different or someone else was looking for alt solutions searching around the forums i posted it any ways. Cheers mates!
1106  Economy / Services / Re: [Volunteer needed] Graphics/Web designer for Fallout/Pipboy website on: June 01, 2012, 04:23:38 AM
ESET Smart Security
Access denied
 
Details:   
Web page:   http://www.pipboy3000.com
Comment:   Access to the web page was blocked by ESET Smart Security. The web page is on the list of websites with potentially dangerous content.

I would strongly recommend not using software that declares any website not in its database as potentially dangerous content and then actually believe that there is in fact "dangerous content" because I fail to see a website that runs purely on one HTML file page with no downloads being activated or anything what so ever.
1107  Economy / Services / Re: [Volunteer needed] Graphics/Web designer for Fallout/Pipboy website on: May 31, 2012, 10:12:52 PM
I highly doubt anyone has the time or luxury to volunteer so here it goes...

I own the address www.pipboy3000.com and am looking for a volunteer to help do the web design(preferably fallout fan but I will gladly introduce anyone to the fallout world if you don't know about it). I only require one page to be made(more if volunteer feels it is necessary and has the time) that contains the index/main page and this main page should have every single HTML element styled and displayed as an example(This is so I can reproduce multiple pages with my own time and not on the volunteers time).

The purpose of this website is a fallout fan page and I plan to manufacture an item that closely resembles an item you'd find in the fallout reality but I'd rather not discuss the details as of yet. If my product sells and makes profit I would love to compensate the volunteer in that era but until I get some quotes on my prototype I can't guarantee any monetary value at this moment.

Please PM me if interested.

or if you have questions reply to this thread .

Thanks

May I preorder my pipboy?
sure that will be $700 in BTC Value. Wink
1108  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin version of Chipin on: May 31, 2012, 09:49:41 AM
Okay testing round Two: please report any bugs that you find on the website.... thanks.

Here is a widget example (flash only until this round is over): http://www.bitcoinchipin.com/fund.php?address=1dice9wcMu5hLF4g81u8nioL5mmSHTApw

Here is the index page: http://bitcoinchipin.com

Thanks!
1109  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [2 BTC Reward] How to find out, which address send me bitcoins via an API on: May 30, 2012, 07:22:21 PM
If you have the money and knowledge to run a 1.5gb server you can run Bitcoin-abe and then query SQL commands against it as if you are querying the Bitcoin blockchain so you can potentially get any transaction information you require.. Is that what your looking for?
1110  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hi :) on: May 30, 2012, 07:20:10 PM
What brought you here if you don't mind me asking?

I was looking to make money off my CPU cycles....I ended up finding something far beyond what my intentions originally were Smiley
1111  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hi :) on: May 30, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
no one cares, sorry.

To ludo077: Just remember to ignore comments like this in the quote, they are everywhere not just newbs.


And welcome!
1112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How about a world wide collaborative blockchain paper backup? on: May 30, 2012, 01:10:35 PM
I bet undergound backups wouldn't hurt either....
1113  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: May 29, 2012, 01:33:34 PM
I could never invest in bitcoin trading with all this going on -- the infinitive speculation of situations would drive me mad, how do you keep your sanity after so many years, S3052?
1114  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: {0 BTC available}Loans from the IBB - Islamic Bank of Bitcoin on: May 29, 2012, 10:30:18 AM
I doubt that this will help, because it is almost not profitable, and there is a lot of scammers, so there is high chance that he would not be able to get it back.
Idk sen has quite the track record.
1115  Economy / Services / [Volunteer needed] Graphics/Web designer for Fallout/Pipboy website on: May 29, 2012, 05:24:42 AM
I highly doubt anyone has the time or luxury to volunteer so here it goes...

I own the address www.pipboy3000.com and am looking for a volunteer to help do the web design(preferably fallout fan but I will gladly introduce anyone to the fallout world if you don't know about it). I only require one page to be made(more if volunteer feels it is necessary and has the time) that contains the index/main page and this main page should have every single HTML element styled and displayed as an example(This is so I can reproduce multiple pages with my own time and not on the volunteers time).

The purpose of this website is a fallout fan page and I plan to manufacture an item that closely resembles an item you'd find in the fallout reality but I'd rather not discuss the details as of yet. If my product sells and makes profit I would love to compensate the volunteer in that era but until I get some quotes on my prototype I can't guarantee any monetary value at this moment.

Please PM me if interested.

or if you have questions reply to this thread .

Thanks
1116  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you listen ( for Music ) right now? on: May 29, 2012, 02:50:53 AM
http://vimeo.com/5145532
 Blackwater - octave one

"just open your heart, just open your mind, just let your love flow like the sunshine..."
1117  Other / Off-topic / Re: My bitcoin client generated an address of 1Ass - Now give me all your butt coins on: May 29, 2012, 02:45:02 AM
Hehe funny mates
1118  Other / Off-topic / Re: My bitcoin client generated an address of 1Ass - Now give me all your butt coins on: May 28, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
and i didn't use a vanity generator.
1119  Other / Off-topic / My bitcoin client generated an address of 1Ass - Now give me all your butt coins on: May 28, 2012, 10:00:31 PM
1Ass8PJDPPYpsCYN8fpVeXegVpb2kXsr21

Hehe, give me some buttcoins!
1120  Economy / Speculation / Re: #1 most popular Bitcoin Price Forecasts (subscribe here: bitcoinbullbear.com) on: May 28, 2012, 08:58:33 PM
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