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1101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: November 09, 2016, 01:03:07 PM
This is true. Don't depend on some threads or posts that promotes giving more winnings.. this is one of their strategy to lure you and suck your btc out from you. There's really no pattern, method or even strategy to win in gambling
Correct , none of strategy will be successful on dice or other type of luck based games in long run . But , beside that we can control our temper and greedy while we're betting but in reality this is a hard job to do (and in the worst cases , you're being suffered to lose and want to recover back your losses) . Apart of this , there are good opportunity to get if we're familiar with this and use it on our game play .
You have to determine first what game will fit you, focus only one game so you will have a bigger chance to win as you will only need to study the game you focus on. Sports betting is a good type of gambling, you will enjoy while you are betting.
1102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 09, 2016, 01:00:42 PM
LA Clippers Vs Portland Trail Blazers

I am going for over 208.5 points. Blazers defense is weak so they are relying strong offense to win games.
Clippers is also scoring many points in their last 2 games against Spurs and Pistons. If both teams play an open game, it will not be surprising to see both teams scoring more than 110 points.


I like your bet on the over, and this is actually a revenge game for the Blazers as they loss at home so it should be a close fight as Blazers is a very good offense team, they love to run.

In addition, they are on a B2B game and traveled from home, so expect a no defense game for the Blazers.
1103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: November 09, 2016, 12:52:42 PM
Setting goal in loosing and winning is really good and it's really make sense when you are really want a good profit every week and i will make that good strategy not to lose but sometimes i lose and that's really big 0.12 last lose in gambling and i want to get that again. I bet sometimes 0.05 sometimes and if i lose i never bet again.
We are actually doing that but seems it's hard to follow once we are in the actual gambling, I think gambling is not for people who have a weak heart and can easily distracted by his emotion in the game. We need to be very clever in gambling if we wanted to win.
1104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win? on: November 09, 2016, 12:47:50 PM
The answer to the question is seldom, most of the time the gambler will lose, either it was lose due to the bad luck or didn't know when to stop, I can see more people become bankrupt rather than become rich in gambling, i think the casino had ways to earn profit from us, so that's why don't hope too high in gambling, and gamble with responsible
well its design to have an advantage agaisnt us but like what you've said if we are responsible and we know when to stop we can make a good position and we will possibly earn from gambling but since that greediness really eaten us we should know how to control that and begin to become a responsible gambler make some assessment if that wont work just stop and don't gamble anymore.
There's no room for greedy people in gambling if your aim is to make money, you will achieve the opposite as mot likely you will just be donating your hard earned money in bitcoin and what you will experience is just a temporary win. No method in gambling and pure emotions will make you lose.
1105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: November 09, 2016, 07:34:19 AM
Yeah definitely. In my opinion gambling is worse than drugs because drugs will run out and eventually you can realise that drugs are bad or just don't have the money to do it anymore. But with gambling you don't get physically disabled... Nor can you overdose. You can borrow more and more money to gamble without stop.

With that statement, I think gambling should not be considered as sickness. It is very much different and should not be compared to drugs. In both you can lose money but the effect of drugs is much worst compared to gambling. But gambling is curable and don't need to make a rehabilitation and there is no collateral damage to your brain.

Indeed mate. Gambling is curable compared to other sickness or even for those who are addicted to drugs. Gambling can be cure by your own willingness to quit. It's your WILL to stay away from gambling for good no one can help you but just only you.
Well, if a person is really willing to quit gambling because he feels that gambling is not already giving him the benefits so he has to quit whatever it takes. It is considered sickness to those who fail in life because of gambling but for us who enjoys it, it's called entertainment.
1106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: November 09, 2016, 07:31:07 AM
Someone just argued with me that gambling can be done by kid too.. Huh
I think so. Most of the people who enjoy gamble do not think clearly before they make a bet or play a game, just like the kids. They particularly depend on their luck to play, and that is not what the adult should think. When you are an adult, every decision must be considered carefully in order to avoid the worst situation. And, people who addicted to gambling does not have these factor to become a real adult

in reality, i saw many kids which playing gambling but not for games that on gambling site, but its more like something that they think it is fun to do with their friends and they use money for the kids which is win the games. the kids is only see and do from what adults in around them and they always adopt it and they don't think its a bad thing or good thing, they just do what they see.
It all started with gambling in a little ways, you can gamble with your friends because that is fun but that activity if you do it regularly will turn into a bigger event in your life. People does not usually enjoy when the same thing will be done over in over again, and they will make things to upgrade their gambling activity which might include the use of money.
1107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 09, 2016, 07:26:56 AM
USA: NBA :
Cleveland Cavaliers vs Atlanta Hawks => I think that caleveland will win the game , and it will be the seven win successively after six win against : Philadelphia 76ers , Boston Celtics , Orlando Magic , Toronto Raptors and Houston Rockets .
It will be a big night for Lebron James and his teammates.

Sorry but you lost, Atlanta Hawks got it with a final score of 110-106 Cleveland. It is not a big night for Lebron and his team mates it made them discourage about losing with Hawks.
For sure this will make the clevelands on the rage mode for their next games with other team.
i really can't believe this i lose my parlay bet oh well nba really sucks when it is in the early stage better yet to keep searching for much better game
i will make a rebound i still believe with cavs and i will chase every game that they will play and bet with them together with san antonio.
It's not a surprise dude, you are just surprising yourself. Remember that you are in NBA where amazing happens.


Yeah, that's why expect the unexpected and don't get confident for each game as NBA games are really gambling also their own matches.

But if you are a true fan of Cavs you won't get disappointed despite of their lose against Hawks.

Instead you will keep on supporting them on their next matches.
Buy low sell high, that's what we need in gambling. The cavaliers loses in the game today, so better back them in their succeeding games no matter the odd is. After a loss, they are due for a win and hopefully they will route the next team they will face. Should be betting big for the cavaliers, strong team does not suffer consecutive loses.

Yeah I agree. With the likes of Kyrie and Lebron, JR and Love they should be able to be pretty consistent with their wins and losses. Atlanta Hawks probably outperformed them this game but doesn't mean that they will be able to do that every game.
You are right, Next game for the cavaliers will be at road and they will travel to the place of washington wizard. Wizards are not playing great this season due to some injuries problem, they just lost to the rockets and I am pretty sure, there next loss would be coming from the cavaliers.

I guess the line would be -9 for the cavaliers, but still good to grab it.
1108  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you accept bitcoins in your business on: November 09, 2016, 07:21:29 AM
This thing should be pushed to gain more circulation. I do the vice versa. I accept cash to buy prepaid load in bitcoin for my friends. It is way faster and cheaper when they buy through me that is why I am getting a lot of customers. Aint that great?
That's great because you activity is helping bitcoin to be popular and with your business you just let your customer aware that there is this wonderful currency that is existing and willing to give us good benefits if we will just adopt. That should be your focus because it bitcoin succeeds, we also succeed.
1109  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: November 09, 2016, 07:12:38 AM
If at some point bitcoin could reach a price that will allow us to buy a house with it is very likely that the seller will just accept or bitcoin without the necessity to convert it to fiat money, besides you will face less fees.

I think by the time the State establishes a tax on transactions with Bitcoin
We cannot be sure if that will happen because the way I see it, the price of bitcoin is already high and I believe that in the future it will be higher than the current price and the government cannot tax as we are anonymous and we do not need to comply with the law that we are not covered.
1110  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: November 09, 2016, 07:05:30 AM
i think paypal only win with some merchant that accept it but bitcoin only need time to do it too , si i choose bitcoin because overall bitcoin still better than paypal
That's good, we should choose bitcoin because we are here and we must promote bitcoin to make it as the most popular crypto currency online. I believe the price that we are seeing now is not yet the biggest, it will continue to rise if we continue to believe, the more people believe in bitcoins the more it will be progressive.
1111  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: November 09, 2016, 06:56:02 AM
i think its good time to hold your bitcoin because are going to increase more and more and i also hold my bitcoin for the future and i am sure i will be get a big profit from bitcoin in the near future from bitcoin.
Right now with the current economic and political climate I think you are correct in stating that right now the best thing to do is to hold your coins and at most investing our coins in very safe investments.

I agree that holding bitcoin until it increase in price is a good way of trading strategy.  This is somehow a conservative approach but I think it would be better to find a good investment company in order for you to grow your bitcoin while waiting for it to increase in value.  This you are multiplying your bitcoin value before selling it at a designated price.
A very conservative approach but the most effective way to make money in the future. The price of bitcoin now is rising again so this could be very helpful for our investment and hopefully we can more income in the future when bitcoin's price will continue to increase.
1112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: November 09, 2016, 06:47:47 AM
I wouldn't recommend you joining any HYIP programs. They are all ponzis and if you do invest you have to face the moral dillema, since you are literally robbing Peter to pay Paul. You are actually taking money from other people. That's how a ponzi works.
It's a money sucker for desperate people, you cannot surely get money with ponzi as they are designed to take our money, if I were to choose, I would better use my money in gambling than in HYIP program as I believe I have more chance of winning since I can make a strategy.
1113  Economy / Speculation / Re: So USA seems to have picked Donald Trump. Help or hurt btc prices. on: November 09, 2016, 06:43:09 AM
I'm not sure. But I think it may hurt the USD prices which would drive up the BTC price. Obviously it would be hard to speculate at this stage of the game but when the election results are published it will become very obvious.
That's why I notice that bitcoin price is not increasing, way to go for bitcoin. I like what is happening and just hope US would be progressive under the new president Trump. On the other hand, lucky are those who bet large on Trump to win the presidency.
1114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: November 09, 2016, 06:12:15 AM
I am into online gambling, and in real life gambling too, but I haven't experience a ban against in real life gambling, maybe because most of it are complete with papers and probably that's what is missing in online gambling on why government would ban it, "it's not paying tax" and most of its transactions are not transparent.
There are countries that only limit the giving of licence for the gambling sites operators but we do not have to make that a big problem as the trend now will just simply apply, online gambling is the trend now and gambling here is very easy. You can have fun anytime you want as it's open 24/7 and 365 a days.
1115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin wallet in bank? on: November 09, 2016, 06:06:36 AM
Do you think that one day you could open Bitcoin wallet in your bank, along with your.ordinary bank account? And will banks have their own wallets? Or maybe they already have? There are some rumors that some banks are preparing themselfes to addopt the Bitcoin and give it to their clients as a new service?
good idea , may be is bitcoin bank can help to further promote and develop what is bitcoin

What you are telling is to some extend good for new users who wanted legal status of bitcoin to use it . but for some users who dont want to get revealed about their identity and transaction they wont accept this idea as bitcoin itself is a bank and you can do online buying and selling goods

bitcoin is not that anonymous that you can hide your identity by using it. it is psedo anonymous actually.
and besides using a bank is violating more than your privacy and identity, it is making you beg for your money from them.
Bank will not violate our privacy if they have complied to the rules of the government, they know our identify because we entrust our money with them and they should not share our identity so others will bad minds will not interest of stealing our money.
1116  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: November 09, 2016, 06:00:05 AM
i have pasive income
iam use bitcoin to investment can grow my money
iam lending my bitcoin and trading
very common, there's a lots of passive income its just depend on how you converted it and uses it wisely, good point is to make alt trading and grow your btc from the knowledge you got and for sure it will continue to flow.
You have to save bitcoins as your long term investment, I do not trust altcoins in that matter. You have to be clever enough when it comes to investment as it is your money that will be lose if things turns out not to be in your favor. With bitcoin, we can guarantee that the market is big and the economy is progressing.
1117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 09, 2016, 05:20:42 AM
Yes if the country has ban it and still you gambling that is wrong. You got hooked to it and cannot leave it that is wrong.
You are trying to recover the loss amount and further loosing that is wrong. In short it should be once in a few months and with limited amount that will keep things in control
If the country is ban that does not mean that gambling is wrong, people are just weak maybe in the area or the government does not want to take risk for their people to get addicted. Gambling is addictive by nature so it's important that only those responsible enough shall gamble.
that's very difficult how to determine who's responsible and who's not but either way gambling is wrong if you already wasting your time, money and your own self by doing it continuously, gambling should be for fun and entertaining and aside from that if you exceed thats already wrong because for sure addiction will be the next stage.

I don't even know that there are countries are completely banning gambling for real. Because that is one of the industry that are paying big tax and adds fund to the government. Gambling is becoming wrong when you are doing some crimes just to sustain your gambling needs and that is not going to help you grow as a person.
We thought gambling is fun but some countries ban it because the real danger was on having so much fun, when we have too much fun we are prone to addiction but we cannot ensure that all gamblers are responsible enough to understand that gambling is just for fun.
1118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: November 09, 2016, 05:17:42 AM
You can't control your greediness since it is in nature of human beings and that is main obstacle of staying away from gambling. If you are used to gamble with Bitcoin then you are lucky and can stay away more easily than typical gambler. All you need to do is not to keep Bitcoin in your possession or immediate access this will be helpful for sure.
gambling online using bitcoin even much more harder to stay away as you provided an easy access anytime and anywhere to gamble just to touch your smartphone and you are sit on the casino table. technology sometimes become a boomerang , you need to be more careful use them . it's more easier when you able to stay away from internet then you would stay away from gambling too.
The revolution in communication technology has allowed us to have anything in the tips of our fingers, for better or worse, so today self-control is more important than ever.
You are right when someone is addicted like I am a bit addicted then we feel that there's nothing better than gambling and even the pocket money children get they spend in lottery in the hope of winning much more. I have children near my house who often gamble their money, and well when I am myself addicted I can't say anything to them.

I think if you are addicted already on gambling it is hard to control it we can not say that you can control your self to gamble..
I think like other said find a new hobby that you know you can be addicted and forgot gambling.. like you play dota 2 or league of legends it can be help to forgot gambling and play dota2 as his new addiction game. .
Changing one addiction for another is not the right course of action even if the new addiction is less damaging at the end you will end up paying the consequences of your actions.

I think that is a good way of course just choose those good things that will make help you to stay away from gambling. Just like making yourself addicted with recreational activities and sports surely it is a good way to forget gambling. But it will make you addicted also but in a good way not that the old way it does.
I am sure everyone was not born to make gambling as our passion, before you came in to gambling you have something or an activity that really interest you therefore you should focus on that activity and leave gambling for good. You cannot win in gambling if you are addicted and that is for sure.
1119  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: November 09, 2016, 05:02:47 AM
I think I will ask for a loan. Nowadays there are many ways to get it so it will be great for emergency use.  You can get a loan even here in bitcointalk as long as you have a valid collateral. 

If you have the skills you can also try some freelancing in online (fiverr and upwork) and offline work. 

For me too, the most convenient option in such a situation is the loan. Although it is very profitable, but in an emergency it is a good solution
I think there is no lending will gives you quick loans you need to offer a collateral to accept your loans even in the bank, i think much better to find friends or your family and borrow money i think they can not refuse you.

There are banks here in my country that are offering personal loans and they don't require collateral to it. But it is very hard to get accepted.

Because the requirements you must be atleast 6 months regularly working on a well known and stable company and on a good position.

And the interest rates vary from 1.1% - 1.89% month. So I guess in other countries, there are offers just like those personal loans.
They base on your character and you capacity to pay, if you have a good reputation that is already your collateral although that is not a physical one, once you broke or destroy your reputation you cannot longer avail on loans offered and possibly with other banks as well.
1120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: November 09, 2016, 05:00:15 AM
maybe because gambling with bitcoin keep us stay anonymously , and some people afraid if they can get jailed if gamble with fiat, maybe my answer will same with the others but that is my opinion, in my country gambling is illegal , and gamble with bitcoin help me much
that's the power of btc because you just need an internet then you can enjoy and play, also the reason why many gamblers supports this types of gambling no need to sign up or reveal your personal info.

Many will rely online gambling and bitcoin will give them the satisfaction that they are looking for. Because of its anonymity and fast transactions.

Many gamblers will love to use bitcoin as they gamble and it depends on what type of gambling game they will going to choose.

No need to go for real casino's, you can just simply visit a virtual casino at your home.
Maybe because we can also gamble even with a small amount of money that we have, that is giving us the benefits to enjoy that we cannot do in different gambling sites that does not accept bitcoin. We should promote gambling sites as well so more people will be coming in.
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