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1101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think would happen if all drugs became legal? on: August 19, 2016, 12:15:55 PM
It will be the first step towards the decline of a nation state. More youth will use drugs when it will become legal. The future of a state depends upon its youth if youth gets involved in drugs it will be an alarming situation for the nation state.

Very well said Cheesy *clap. Yup thats really the point of that. If we are talking to the drugs that is using for self pleasure or anything then it could brought worse events but if we use it in a proper way then it would cause a very good effect to you. Legal drugs then lot of the youth uses it then it can break the dreams and futures...
1102  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: August 19, 2016, 11:57:10 AM
started last week on trading. and i already miss 10x of the right time to sell my coins. its frustrating but also you will learn from it that you should manage the time or predict it when it will rise up or go down. and now its my 11th time loosing my profit. and waiting my coins to be pump up.  Sad Sad Sad

I think it is good time to buy some bitcoin now. The price of bitcoin dropped from $650 to $530 now.
it's good for a few hours ago, but in this time the price will rising again and it's happened in this time, maybe just for slowly but with certainty. although in this time the bitcoin price increases but there are some chance to get a profit if buying in this time.
For me this is not the best time to buy bitcoins right now there is still possibility that the price of bitcoin will be decrease but if we dont believe that the price will increase again back the price of bitcoin will decrease continuesly..

Yep you're right . Just give sometime the bitcoin to li low Cheesy  then thats the time you can buy Cheesy .

I also started trading last month then i keep missed the time to buy and sell Sad i dont have a right timing to sell those altcoin because im so busy with my work but soon ill try to manage it Cheesy
1103  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Changed my life has it changed yours? on: August 19, 2016, 11:25:50 AM
BTC changes my life, because you can really earn money with it
That exactly is also.my reason.Bitcoin gave me a new way to earn money and I am confident it has a potential to make me and everyone of us rich.The only thing we must do is not to lose our faith in bitcoin and continue to support it

Just like you, bitcoin has also changed a lot of things in my life. And yes, real people can get rich with this currency, as long as they are willing to learn and do not give up. Because I also ever lose, and it only made me more excited to make bitcoin more. IMO

Me too Cheesy . Since i was 15 years old im really want to earn money online so i search all over the internet to earn my first bucks(USD) but unfortunately i cant find one that is really working and i dont give up then i could earn some in designing so someone told me about bitcoin then thats the time i earn a lot so i decided to learn bitcoin and now i bought my first gaming keyboard because of bitcoin (*im a newbie in bitcoin)
1104  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: August 19, 2016, 11:20:25 AM
i think that it will be really possible because may people will get into bitcoins
Highly unlikely. Bitcoin is a tech-driven kind of currency. The mere mention of digital scares some people right away. The number of bitcoin users is still very small and we are already in the year 2016. I don't think six more years of bitcoin's existence is going to be enough for it to make the crossover to mass media appreciation, and eventually usage.

We will see major growth in the users of bitcoin till then and it will be also used and accepted at many places but its hard to imagine that almost everyone will start using it.
thats true, the use of the bitcoins is growing really fast right now and the user count is increasing at a rapid pace, i think it will make bitcoin grow

Yeah more users will lead to higher price of bitcoin in future,  and I think many new companies will also enter bitcoin in future which will make bitcoin more powerful and popular in terms of currency.

Woah thats nice. Really if the bitcoin is became famous and lot of us or almost of us uses bitcoin then it can make the price high? Woahh so in the future it going to be really big because bitcoin is getting famous and famous all over the world so sooner or later all of us know the bitcoin and using it in our daily lives Cheesy
1105  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trust No One on: August 19, 2016, 09:50:34 AM
I'm not easy to trust anyone,
I recommed if do you want to transaction online
please always use an escrow.

so you already contradict your own statement regarding trusting no one because you still promote escrow services and it means you trusted them.. hahhaha
but i wont disagree about trusting escrow that on the list of DT. but always be careful even though they have some green trust. you must made first their history of post so that
you can verify that they are not been sold to other user.

Contradicting statement though. Even escrow musnt be  trusted even how reputable it is, even you are transacting large amounts of bitcoin. You dont know  what things are running  on peoples mind when it comes to money, there are instances that money greediness would control your emotion and   do the  opposite things.

that's true. but how will you successfully transact in this forum if you didn't trust anyone even reputable members here?
so please explain further your point and be realistic.. i know that greediness is always with us but you can't stop people to trust other member here just for a
greediness reason. we have all different kind of behavior and dont assume that all of as is greedy. of course there is someone here is a trusted person even though
he is not in the DT list. So the point is we must be careful on who we are going to trust and not to trust no one.

Trust can kill you  Grin . We can trust people here but not total 100% that we should give our trust. Yeah your  right if you cant trust him/her then how would you do a transaction with him/her? So trust her/him if you want that thing but just be careful. We dont know if he./she would scam you or not.
1106  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoins safe? on: August 19, 2016, 09:46:31 AM
From the recent attacks on the exchanges recently including what is going on with Bleutrade, I don't think bitcoin is safe to use right now. But that is my opinion. Embarrassed
Just don't put all your eggs in one basket and you will be happy.
thats true, if you are a trader then i highly dont recommend to hold all your bitcoins and trade on one exchange as you might lose a lot of money because of such decision
I think it's different problems. because the exchange is a third party so of course you also have to be careful because the site may be a scam. but the problem is. bitcoin is it safe? because the price of bitcoin is still a consideration for someone to invest in bitcoin. you know that fluctuations



Thanks to bitfinex. Doubts in bitcoin users through wallet exchange goes higher. Now people become aware of this kind of situation. If that didnt happen even me wont loom for another option to keep safe my bitcoin.
yeah it looks like you should be more careful again with exchange sites that do not have a clear address. as it is likely they are to be a scam
you can trade on the exchange sites have a complete and clear data. and do not put all of your money in that site


The better plan is that we keep our money on different platforms, with that if one of them go down or escape away or hacked by some hackers then we will not lose all of our money, we will lose only a fraction of our stored bitcoins, and we have to try to keep our coins on standard and well reputable wallets and exchanges etc.
I agree with you bro. Just to play safe its like trading, store your money on other altcoin then exchange it if the price rises, then if we do that we should be careful what we do and had a wise choice. But the price of bitcoin right now is will up soon so nothing to worry.
1107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving bitcoin a new name on: August 19, 2016, 09:39:59 AM

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I remember the time when law enforcement agency arrest people that are involved in Bitcoin or those using it (but now the have been slight changes in some country but not all)

where did this happen?
do you have any reference ?
I don't remember anyone being arrested for just using or accepting bitcoins, some people and members here (BurtW) have been arrested for trading bitcoins and as such have had a good amount of coins stolen off them by the government but they way you say it sounds like the government agencies were rounding people up involved with bitcoin and that has never happened that i am aware of.

Googling it also and never find one. I hope he can tell us where he did get this news. Kinda curious of what he said. If this is true then I ought to escape.  Grin

I think his statement is not enough. law enforcement agency arrested those people who engage illegal things that their payment is thru bitcoin. I dont remember any country that arresting people who is using bitcoin but instead it is illegal to them and prohibited to use it or something they block it.
1108  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Brazil has more than 150 stores that accept bitcoin on: August 18, 2016, 11:35:28 AM


Nice to hear that, bitcoin is spreading all over the world. I wish I could also use bitcoin in my country  as payment method.but unfortunately in my country almost 99% people didn't hear bitcoin.Anyway, hoping bitcoin will grow up fastly like this and one day I.will be able to use bitcoin in my country easily.
Which country? I am sure bitcoin have already famous.
It is only the matter of time bitcoin could spread evenly , soon or later bitcoin will available in your country stores.
In my country there several offline store available to accept bitcoin but not as much as in brazil.
in indonesia has many who knew the bitcoin and there are some selling also make payments through bitcoin, perhaps future bitcoin can be set as an alternative to payments in indonesia
Wow, maybe in your country the bitcoin can evolve for easily and I think the government is very ensured with their civilian's freedom, because i think just a little percentage for the country can ensure their civilian's freedom.
In brazil bitcoin is really  popular because their government is openminded and acknowledge  bitcoin as a legit.  But they also getting rid of the people using the bitcoin in illegal things.  How i wish here in our country also have a stores that accept bitcoin as a payment. Tho i knew some here in out country but its pretty far from my place .
1109  Other / Off-topic / Re: shares of my dream on: August 18, 2016, 11:29:14 AM
My dream is have a life partner and spend entire life together in small town. Where there are more green things than complicated things (like in bussy city).

Me too I wan also a partner and our life in a small or peaceful country .  But that is my future dream but right now iwant o earn a lot so that i could help my parents and finish my studies in a university and i want to build or re build our house so that i could give my parents a comfortable house and thats the time i could get a partner.
1110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 17, 2016, 11:29:43 AM
If you have more than enough money, i don't think you will risk big amounts by gambling, may be rich people gamble just for fun with small amounts.

Depends on the rich people, some rich people like to play big but some others do not like it. If there is no rich people play big amount, so who are the one who wagered such a big amount in single bet on some gambling sites? They must be rich people, poor will not able to bet big.
Thats true, it is really depend on a rich gambler, some rich people doesnt care of what they lose, but some rich people count of what they loses cause they really care about money and they value most of it.

If I'm going to be a rich person, I'm not going to gamble anymore because it is going to give me confidence to keep on gambling and make lose all my money. Just like these days that when you have small amount of money you don't care about it even you are going to win or lose that is going to be nothing for you.
Most of the time your decision will change when you are already in the situation. When you are a gambler when you are still poor, there is a big possibility that you will gamble more when you become rich as you have all the means to do it and as long as you are playing for fun the risk is just low.

Whether we are rich or not, the question really is how greedy are we when it comes to accumulating wealth and in this case, profit with gambling. If we control our greed, being rich or poor doesn't really matter at all.

For those rich people, i think they want to gamble is not really want to earn more money. They can easily earn a lot of money in a day so they can gamble for pure entertainment. However, the problem happened when the rich people become too addicted to gamble cause it can provide a form of excitement that no other activities can give. It is this kind of unique experience that cause them to sink further and gamble more.

Yep they just gamble for entertainment pure! Because they do have a lot of money and they need a stress reliever so they just gamble tho if they lose then its nothing for them the important thing is they have fun on playing. But if they become addicted and they loose a lot and lot of credits left on his/her hands! then he/she is not rich anymore. hahaha
1111  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will my method be a good steady income? on: August 17, 2016, 11:06:51 AM
no it will not when i was a starter i had some same plNs like this but after trying it i lost my money as everytime i did its simplys no one can beat the house edge and it only effects most at long run players
yes it would never managed to get a steady income from gambling, even games that do not have a house edge, such as sports betting it will remain difficult.
Gambling seems to me just a game of luck which can not be a stable income. Even trading could not provide a fixed income, I think fixed income can be obtained by working. Working here is to work in real life and get paid every month. IMO

Gambling is not a way to get any income on daily, weekly or monthly basis, though trading can generate something for you but that is also not stable as sometimes you may get bigger profits and sometimes the profit is less and sometimes unfortunately you will earn nothing for days.
And working in real life is harder then working here if you have some technical skills.


Its up to us  if what thing would we do either we find a stable day job or  focus  on full time online on earning bitcoin. Income  here on online world is not  stable  compared to have a stable day job because  your earning online would depend on how much effort would you put into it.


Find a job then you have a stable income Cheesy . Just make it a sideline dude. For me even if i want to fulltime in earning bitcoin but my earnings is really to low so its just not make any sense to me so i just find a job (now i do have a job) then i make the bitcoin (signature campaigns) as a side line job because i also do making website so i do use bitcoin as payment if i buy a hosting and domain Smiley
1112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: August 17, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Trading with good analysis, speculation or good experience is partially trading, but trading with pure luck or no experience is pure gambling
Then what is "complete" trading?
But I agree, when you are allowing your luck to play a role in your trading then your trading will change into the mode of gambling. But most of the time, the highly volatile commodity trading are simply equavalent into gambling. Because most of the traders are going only with the 50% of their skill and experience and for the remaining they are depending on their luck.

thats true, trading is really risky even for the professionals so if you dont want losing your bitcoins then just dont do any trading i guess as it is like gambling
Trading is better but it has risk and even investment is risky also. For a person to earn money he also needs to risk and not just risking but also need to exert effort to study the investment he wants to venture. Meanwhile, trading can be learn and you can improve your skills but gambling cannot because its shady.
Trading and gambling has a common similarity as high risk to lose your capital and both could be won by knowledge, experiences, skill and wisely choose what kind of gambling you want to play. I agree that trading without knowledge, experiences, skill and just depend on lucky guess is a gambling.
no i am not agree with you. gambling do no need any specific skill or knowledge just need to know how to play, and totally depending on luck, but in trading you must know about the market about the value and you must have so specific knowledge and skill through which you can overcome the other and cam inspire the buyer.

I agree with you dude! Gambling takes a lot of luck and the trading takes a lot of knowledge or skills and prediction about the market value of a coin. Base on my experience in gambling tho i know how to play it, try to predict it but i dont have a luck then i keep on loosing same on trading i dont know how to trade predict buy/sell a coins so ill end up loosing my money. So trading is not like gambling
1113  Other / Archival / Re: Do you have paypal account even though you have bitcoin? on: August 17, 2016, 10:40:04 AM
After see this topic paypal or bitcoin?, i'm curious who have paypal account these days.
Do you still have paypal account even though you have bitcoin?

I still have a PayPal account but I try not to use it. Bitcoin transactions are so much better than using paypal
As soon as all major e shops accept bitcoin I will close down my PayPal account for good.
i agree with you that bitcoin transaction is very faster and its transaction fees is very much low than paypal , so bitcoin is too much better than paypal because bitcoin is very useful and acceptable in anywhere than paypal , Paypal is not use in some country .
you are right that bitcoin transaction is very faster than paypal.

Yup you're right the transaction fees are really to big and its not really fast not like bitcoin low transaction fees (sometimes nothing) but lot of the websites (if we talk about online buying) lot of websites is not accepting bitcoin as payment I dont know why so they use Paypal though some of sites accepts bitcoin but not all. So yes I do have paypal if i have something to buy online but dont accepts bitcoins so i use paypal but i do prefer Bitcoin Cheesy
1114  Other / Off-topic / Re: bitcoin affects life a lot on: August 17, 2016, 10:27:20 AM
yes am really enjoying my learning of bitcoin and earning too...now learning and earning of bitcoin takes most of my time and thats means bigger profit in the future...loving life with bitcoin!!! Kiss Kiss Kiss

Too much working for bitcoin might have a bad effect to us, sitting too much in front of your computer might weaken our body, now, come to think of this, if you get older weak because of sitting too much, that means you would be sick sooner or later, we should realize that we are not earning big, and that won't be enough for our hospitalization if were sick...  Smiley
Earning in bitcoin is not required too much time because we can work for bitcoin in our spare time that is why i do no think there are people who sit in the front of computer with more than 8 hrs to earn in bitcoin.

It depends on from where you are earning and how much you are earning, if you are full timer then you need to spend even more then 10 to 12 hours on computer.

It is obvious that what type of work you are going to do, if you are a gambling tipster or you are a altcoin crypto minre, then for gambling you dont have to sit full time, you have to just sit for some time and do research of the match, and do the prediction of post and make the bets and just sit back and watch the  game at the game time, if you are a altcoin trader then you have to spend lot of time in front of the screen as when their is any trading you have to take part .

I am a sports betting gambler so i dont have to sit in front of the computer for full time, i have to do little research and do my bets and just have to see the match at match time,

You're right the bitcoin really affects our life if we are talking about earning bitcoin because we do our very best to earn a lot of bitcoin more on the gambler they risk and they win or they loose thats the time bitcoin can affect our life when we earn. But if we talk about using only it as buying stuff or something it also affects our life but in the good side because of the easy and fast transactions Cheesy
1115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: August 16, 2016, 12:13:42 PM
in case we lost internet connection all over the world then i would say yes bitcoin and all other online payment will disappear .
That is not going to happen unless there is a world economy shutdown.  If that happens, then we will be more concerned with things as food and finding somewhere to survive because the crap has really hit the fan!!
Are you kidding me? I don't think the internet connection is having the relationship with the economic of the world. it's can happen if the world of economy is not death. Maybe if in the future the world war3 is a happen we will see the internet will very useless and the economy will always stay alive.
we can not say the internet will be useless, Internet connection is the blood of bitcoin if the connection will shut down we can not access our bitcoin wallet, also the economy of each country has big effect on bitcoin value.

If internet would be  lost then there would be a worldwide panic and  would suffer  a huge economic disaster since almost everything  depends on internet. Imagine without internet  you would definitely  say its a total disaster.

It probably could have happened, but the disaster is going to happen is not a natural disaster. But disaster information from all over the world, for the loss of the internet, then we are not going to be easy in giving the latest news in the country who are we inhabit. It will surely be a disaster which is quite influential in the life of the

Yes, i didnt say its a natural disaster  but an economic disaster. Even and hour loss of internet worldwide  it would probably make a panic especially to  internet dependent  things and businesses out there. We should accept that internet plays a big role  in our  high tech generation years and  this thing is commonly used.

Yup its not a natural disaster that it will happend easy  natural tho we could say that it will happen really bu its not just easy as eating a pie that thr bitcoin will probably gone.  Lot of us will panic and the internet would be affected with that because internet has a big role in bitcoin specially in buying and selling products also the illegal thins we could rid with that  that's the good news but thr bad news is the biggest thing.
1116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are bitcoin ATMs worth using? on: August 16, 2016, 11:57:28 AM
I think bitcoin ATM is very useful if you can find it in your region, but if for online transaction its better to use internet, because it has the track and the prove of the transaction and in internet you have a better security

Here we dont really have that kind of ATM. But we can withdraw it to an ATM from a bank. Good thing the wallet exchange website is connected to every bank and they can easily transfer your money to the bank you want.

Same here but lot of country now a days have a bitcoin atms and  is really nicr but the problem is how do we handle the keep of falling of the price of the bitcoin?  If it is the same with our btc wallet if we send money to other and the price is high also the price is high how ever if its low also its low .  if its like pur currency stayput with the price if we didnt undergo with exchange then its nice
1117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: August 16, 2016, 11:51:23 AM
Just to have fun and entertainment but never to support any of my needs. Gambling is good as long as you know how to have control of yourself. Depending on gambling for profit is a very dangerous road to tread on

That's a very good posting!
Gambling should be fun and not be a need!
As long as you gamble with money you can afford to lose you will be fine and can sleep well at night.  Wink


Yes, we should take gambling just for fun and Entertainment. I do play just to kill my free time. And if I am lucky and made any profit means I will sell that coins and buy my needful things. So my aim in gambling is just time pass.

If you are going to be serious with gambling and you are treating it as your main source of income it is better if you are going to stop aiming that.

In the end you are just going to fail because no one gets to be successful with that way, unless you are the luckiest man alive in the world.

Just enjoy every money you are going to waste there.

On the other hand aiming to win is not really bad its because we are in gambling industry, so if your not aiming really to win then what is your point why you are gambling? For fun? How about if you lost huge amount money for that entertainment you want, and it will ended up you will still cry looking to your wallet has been empty by your what you so could entertaiment tantrums,

that would  be not entertainment anymore if you found out that your wallet is empty, for sure you would get frustrated if you get into that situation. Most of the gamblers  were commonly aiming for profits and thats the main thing in gambling no one has the intention  to lose their money just to get  the entertainment thrill  they want.

Haha you get frustrated if your wallet balance is zero but we should not forget to have fun yep all of us are aiming to win a big y so that we could buy some stuffs.  Winning in gambling gives you a joy and eagerness to bet higher then youll end up on loosing your money you dont know that you are also aiming to loose your monry because you always think about winning but sometimes its end up with losing.
1118  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin ATMs on: August 16, 2016, 11:41:28 AM
Well if you have no other choice then it's good even 3% because you get instant and you are paying in real life which is easier that dealing in forum.

There also the practical factor of reaching out for fiat from your digital coins at physical places. There's a comfort factor here that, obviously, comes at a price...

I would prefer 10x more a local ATM machine that would give me the easy to use tools to convert my coins instead of having to go online to an exchange, post an order, wait for the order to be executed Undecided, than transfering fiat to my bank account (which usually takes more than 24 hours) and only after that being able to withdraw my cash.

Yup converting bitcoin to your currency takes a lot of time before you can get it but if you would prefer to pay bitcoin with stuff and if you and your country already accepted bitcoin and has a ATM in yout country which you can withdraw bitcoins then that would be easy .  But now only few are acepting bitcoins and i also read that some country has an atm which you can withdraw bitcoin and thats really nice and i hope that we do have also that here in our country
1119  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: August 15, 2016, 11:35:52 AM
If the business is sending money to other country.
Than I think is good to tell them that Bitcoin is a solution because is faster and cheaper.


I think this is not a solution. Because BTC wallets can send Bitcoin directly to other BTC wallets so I dont know why money senders needs BTC for there businesses? In fact BTC's convenience can weaken their sales

This is not a good idea at all. you can convince the sender to use bitcoin, but what if the receiver don't have the features of bitcoin? and only sending and receiving is not enough for local business, they send in fiat because fiat can be use easily in locally also. and bitcoin can't be used easily. if you accept bitcoin you again need to exchange them into fiat to use them and spend them.

Well the receiver can always have the solution to create a btc wallet its free and easy and you will instantly get an btc address . Also Exhanging it to Fiat is also not a problems. As many of the btc walket has a option to diractly move btc into your bank account automatically converting it to fiat.



I think merchant find it hard to actually integrate bitcoin in their cash flow. Remember not everybody is technical and when you accept bitcoin, basic knowledge is required.
Overall I do think that bitcoin will become accepted globally but it is all a matter of time.

When it happens, banks will shake out of fear.
We're missing one importand aspect here. It's the legality of bitcoin. How can a local business accept btc of its illegal in the first place. Some countrie prohibit the transactiom of btc thats the one of the big reasons whys it can't grow locally.

Yup we should also think about the countries that is not accepting bicoin as payment because of legality of it we know that in our country we are free on using bitcoin because its okay with our government but if we implement or if we encourage the local business to accept bitcoin as a payment then it would happen only in our country.
1120  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you wish you could buy with btc ? on: August 15, 2016, 10:50:44 AM
I saw someone mention some things about wishing they could buy gas and food with btc ...
I agree with them both, food especially.

So what about you guys ?
Anything that you wish you could buy with btc ? (legal things of course LOL Cheesy)
seems steam accept now bitcoin i got i want no need food
Steam have been accepting bitcoins for a few months already.
I just wish I could buy some food with bitcoins as well, especially burgers or pizza so I can probably brag to my friends that I'm buying them without actually having to take out my cash.


I think there are few cafes in Europe where you can buy burger and pizza using bitcoins, but scenario is not same everywhere and it will take some more time it to happen.

That would quite a lot of time for every place to accept bitcoin as it is not yet reached mainstream like other usual currencies, and unless some big companies adopt it no small businesses would dare to take risks like that.

Yeah and even small merchants are not aware about the fact that they can accept payment in bitcoins, till they are not guided well they will hesitate in implementing it into their businesses.

How i wish too Cheesy paying your order thru bitcoin its nice Cheesy . But bitcoin is not really famous to all of us most of the small merchant so its not possible right now but in the future Cheesy then it would be nice. I also want to buy foods Cheesy clothes or some materials in our house paying a fare Cheesy or if you buy a drinks (Alcoholic drinks or not) all of the things that we used to buy with our currencies Cheesy
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