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11041  Economy / Lending / Re: Magic Loans & Escrow on: April 19, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
I have negotiated a loan agreement with Magic8Ball here are the terms:

Loan Amount: 2.0 BTC

Collateral: BitcoinBarrel Bitcointalk.org account

Repayment Terms:

2.25 BTC back by 5/5/2015 11 PM BST

Starting on 5/6/2015:
0.01 BTC interest per day until 5/30/2015.

2.40 BTC if paid by 5/30/2015 11 PM BST

If loan is not repaid by 5/30/2015 11 PM BST collateral is forfeited to Magic8Ball

Payment Address:
149H2rXc4YS31i9SRM1p4cXLycDn6iSwHe

Signed:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
BitcoinBarrel/BitcoinTalk - 2BTC loan from Magic8Ball 11:55 AM on 4/19/2015
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Address: 149H2rXc4YS31i9SRM1p4cXLycDn6iSwHe

IG85YzPfdVAv3iWy6pjA5uSgMprbOKylMH8PIIo5BwWHWHom1HvJp15xGNTc+N2z4uXewvtd3o4Ockx0kX5w15g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
This is a very large loan amount. I am not sure that Magic8Ball is going to be able to sell a hero account for 2+ BTC if/when you default on this loan.
11042  Economy / Goods / Re: Special Bitcoin-only 5-Day Anniversary Sale >> SOLD OUT !! on: April 19, 2015, 04:40:38 PM
Soooo, you are a newbie with a extremely bad reason to not use escrow and a worthless guarantee if you end up scamming. Good luck with your sales. Roll Eyes

Hi Mitchell,

soooo, you're a stuff member with an extremely bad way to welcome a newbie. We have the best reputations on Google+ and LinkedIn. The way we do business will not change because of your amusing comments. A reputation on your forum isn't a must to do business.

Have an awesome day!

Best regards,

David


This is not a hotel. It is not the staffs' job to make you feel welcome, and in a lot of cases people will not be welcome (e.g. if they break the rules).

It is fairly clear that you are a scammer as you are refusing to use escrow which is designed to protect both the buyer and the seller from getting scammed.

If you are worried that the buyer is going to claim the non-receipt of the product then you should insure the package you send to the buyer in the amount of the value of the product so the buyer can file a claim with the shipping company when they claim that the goods are lost/stolen/damaged/ect.
11043  Other / Archival / Re: 2 BTC loan for 2.25 BTC back in 30 days or less + free advertising on: April 19, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
Can send proof of revenue if needed.
Proof of revenue is not going to protect the lender. TBH if you have the revenue that you claim to have you will most likely be better off getting a loan from the bank. You will probably get much better terms anyway, and they have additional resources available to them to protect themselves from deadbeats.

I have collateral, and I'm negotiating terms with a lender now. But if you use collateral you don't get free advertising...  Cry
Most people on here do not need any kind of advertising so the "free advertising" will have little value to them.

If you do in fact collateral (your posts suggest that you do not) then I would also be able to give this loan (along with the several others that have offered)
11044  Other / Archival / Re: quickseller on: April 19, 2015, 03:42:10 PM
Quickseller, with so many people telling you that your negative rating might have been too much haven't you given this some more thought?
The negative stands. I have taken the opinions of others into consideration and they were not able to change my mind. Most of the people who are advocating for the removal of my trust are not reputable in my eyes.
I admin that I shouldn't have backed out of the deal like that
Okay then. Case closed.
but there are also some inconsistencies on your part. 
no
11045  Other / Meta / Re: Spams are high in "Beginners & Help" sub-board! Please resolve. on: April 19, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
For upcoming signature campaign, I think will be :

Qualifying Posts:
Must be made with the appropriate signature.
Must be constructive to the topic.
Investor-based games sub-board does not count.
Non-English posts will not count.
Posts in this thread does not count.
Posts in the off-topic board do not count.
Posts in Beginners & Help do not count.  Undecided
Posts in other signature campaigns do not count.

I think this is the wrong approach. If you are simply finding sections where a lot of people make a lot of useless posts and then exclude payment for those sections then the spammers will simply find other sections to spam in.

A better solution would be to simply do a better job of screening potential participants and to do a better job of managing participants professionally by warning and/or removing participants when they start to make a large number of insubstantial posts.

I am not sure how active MiningBuddy and tysat are at moderating however I don't think I see them posting very often. Maybe the newbie section needs another moderator?

Other sections with a lot of problems regarding insubstantial posts (the politics and the off topic sections) do not have any moderators at all, so maybe it is a lack of moderator problem.
11046  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How is BitMixer.io? Successful service or no go poll! | Stats for us all on: April 19, 2015, 02:56:14 PM
I just use exchanges for laundrying my coins. Deposit some amount, withdraw 1/3 after few hours, and wait a 6 or 12 hrs, withdraw 1/3 again, and same once again.

The fees on bitmixer.io is only 0.5% plus a 0.0005 BTC. If you plan on mixing a smaller amount than 0.3 BTC, then Bitmixer would be a better option, and as for the exchanges, they do keep records. Bitmixer currently claims to be keeping no record so if you get in a legal dispute, bitmixer would be a safer option, as long as they don't keep records
If they truly don't keep the logs, then how can they resolve the problem in case of problem? My coins are lost then?

and I use bitfinex, as I can withdraw with no fee (and no verification needed for btc deposit)
They will give you a signed message with very specific terms that is signed by their 1Bitmixer..... address. If there is a problem then you present the signed message that you saved then they can give you the proper amount of coins to the output addresses.

It is hard to determine wether the service been successfull or not, because there is no such data about how many coins being mixed or their service being used by users daily. However due to that there isnt any severe complain from their thread, It can be actually safe to say that their service is being successfull.

If they released this kind of information then it would be possible to determine their addresses which would make their service less effective.
11047  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.15 loan | Valid LTC collateral on: April 19, 2015, 02:20:43 PM
I have 30 LTC that I'm not willing to sell on the short term. I'll be using them as collateral.

Loan Amount : 0.15
BTC Address  : 1RyDcKZdYAguTeDFpyQfMsnepdBHXDyCh
Term Length  : Give or take seven days after receiving the loan.
Interest: 0% Although I might give you a tip for your service
Collateral 30 LTC

The collateral is worth more than 125% of the requested amount. Only according to the current LTC price of 0.00625076.

I could provide some more alt coins as collateral but I'm confident that 125% with litecoin is enough. I'll only take the loan from a reputable member, so please don't send anything to the above address before I give you the OK.
Can I give you the loan or you are looking someone from the default trust list.
You are on default trust and he most likely is looking to get the loan from someone on default trust so he knows his collateral is safe can buy trust

edit: I am not sure why so many people are jumping at this when he isn't offering to pay any interest. The lack of interest payment means that the loan is not going to be worth your time, you are still taking (a small amount of) risk, and you will still need to pay a tx fee

That's not Vod.
LOL oops.


You are on default trust and he most likely is looking to get the loan from someone on default trust so he knows his collateral is safe can buy trust


is this not the case with most loans being requested around here? some users who frequently ask for small loans and pays back to receive trust ratings from lenders. i think some lenders should be more conservative with giving out trust ratings epsecially when its just small amounts are involved in loan or transactions.
Yes. I generally have adopted the practice of not giving out trust for smaller loans as of recently unless I otherwise deem them to be trustworthy. Although I think a lot of the loans requested on here are actually for gambling
11048  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.15 loan | Valid LTC collateral on: April 19, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
I have 30 LTC that I'm not willing to sell on the short term. I'll be using them as collateral.

Loan Amount : 0.15
BTC Address  : 1RyDcKZdYAguTeDFpyQfMsnepdBHXDyCh
Term Length   : Give or take seven days after receiving the loan.
Interest: 0% Although I might give you a tip for your service
Collateral 30 LTC

The collateral is worth more than 125% of the requested amount. Only according to the current LTC price of 0.00625076.

I could provide some more alt coins as collateral but I'm confident that 125% with litecoin is enough. I'll only take the loan from a reputable member, so please don't send anything to the above address before I give you the OK.
Can I give you the loan or you are looking someone from the default trust list.
You are on default trust and he most likely is looking to get the loan from someone on default trust so he knows his collateral is safe can buy trust

edit: I am not sure why so many people are jumping at this when he isn't offering to pay any interest. The lack of interest payment means that the loan is not going to be worth your time, you are still taking (a small amount of) risk, and you will still need to pay a tx fee
11049  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a loan 0.06 BTC, 0.005 BTC interest! on: April 19, 2015, 06:48:33 AM
first of all, quickseller there is no guarantee that his payment from bit-x gonna cover up the loan+ interest isnt it? and he cant post after you take the account, so this is still risky as you might get less than what you loan from his campaign payment. Also marco being stricter means that most of his spam most might not get paid
You are right that there is no guarantee that Marco will payout the full amount due however without any legit reason why he would deny payment then marco would simply be scamming, and certain pressure can be given to get him to pay what is due the account.

Even if the loan is not repaid then the account should be able to be sold for more then then loan amount
11050  Economy / Services / Re: girlbtc.com SIG DESIGN contest on: April 19, 2015, 06:36:54 AM
I am sorry but why are you running this contest? Are you in some way related to girlbtc.com? I hope you realize that there is a significant amount of controversy surrounding their site
11051  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a loan 0.06 BTC, 0.005 BTC interest! on: April 19, 2015, 06:34:10 AM
Why don't you give your account as collateral and allow the lender to change the payout address of the signature earnings.  Then the lender would get both the account and your earnings when (not if) you default on your loan.

Then if your were to repay the loan you would get the signature earnings back along with your account. Either way the lender would profit.

I really don't like providing this account as collateral because this is the only one account I have in Btctalk and which I use. I don't think its possible to change address for the Bit-x camapaign! I am not sure though!

I have done a 0.37BTC  deal with ndnhc and I had complete hold of ndnhc's 0.37 BTC , my rank was a member account with 98 activity and I sent him his money according to our deal Smiley! I am not saying "i am very trusted, You can send me the money blindly" but I mean trusting me when I PM'ed marco about it musn't be a problem at all Smiley
I don't care about your prior deals. I care about protecting myself. My conditions would allow me to protect myself.  If you could agree to my conditions then I could most likely fill your loan and your account would be returned to you assuming you repay your loan prior to when your signature campaign pays out.

Funding a no collateral loan is very risky in every situation.
you are right that a no collateral loan is full of risk but I am thinking what will sig.campaing pay it they dont find posts with his account I mean to say if he gives his account as colletral then he will not get payed by signature campaing
Your post doesn't even make any sense. But yes I am correct. No lender should fund any loan to you without sufficient collateral. Your account (provided you can provide a signed message confirming ownership) would be sufficient collateral, but anything less then that would not be

Ok Quickseller, lets make this short and sweet! I am providing my account as collateral! Is that ok? But you can't change my sig or other contact info as I may get disqualified for payment for campaign! Just want one thing! As soon as it is given to you and its working I don't want you to login again until I pay the loan!You may change the email or anything from which I can recover my account! No problem in that! Leave me a PM Cheesy
I will agree to keep your signature the same, however I would need to reserve the right to change the 'other contact info' so I can collect the signature campaign earnings in the event that you do not repay your loan. In the event that you repay prior to the due date then I will return the account back to you along with any signature campaign earning I receive on your behalf. In the event that you default on the loan then both the signature campaign earnings and the account would become my property. I would also need a signed message to confirm ownership of the account.
11052  Other / Archival / Re: Physical or Digital Gift Cards on: April 19, 2015, 06:21:17 AM
PMed you Smiley
I would be careful with this person as he has a history of making vague deals that end up with him paying you much less then the seller anticipated. Dealing with him with or without escrow is not recommended.
11053  Other / Meta / Re: BFL subpoena on: April 19, 2015, 06:18:40 AM
I'm surprised that BFL is such a small part of the forum. I was about to suggest you should just give them yesterday's forum snapshot Grin

Jokes aside... What the hell do we have to do with BFL? Why the hell should theymos be forced to lose time gathering all the information these guys need? If they need info, get them yourselves... Don't force your own citizens to work for you for free, gathering old information they have nothing to do about and sending them in if they don't bow to this... Pretty annoying.

As for the PM protection... I agree with Blazr. Losing your password would be a feature. But this also should be opt-in, with a big, annoying, one time warning.

Ignoring scams leads to this. Being proactive could resolve it simply banning BFL in 2012 or 2013 as things escalated. If you don't want to bother doing hours of info collation then eliminate the scammers sooner and permanently. No remorse here this subpoena has happened. It will happen again without any proactive measures by admins.
Scams are not banned. Unless some other rule was broken during that timeframe (I have no idea if one was, but I am going to go out on a limb and say that one was not) then a ban would not have been appropriate.
11054  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a loan 0.06 BTC, 0.005 BTC interest! on: April 19, 2015, 06:17:05 AM
Why don't you give your account as collateral and allow the lender to change the payout address of the signature earnings.  Then the lender would get both the account and your earnings when (not if) you default on your loan.

Then if your were to repay the loan you would get the signature earnings back along with your account. Either way the lender would profit.

I really don't like providing this account as collateral because this is the only one account I have in Btctalk and which I use. I don't think its possible to change address for the Bit-x camapaign! I am not sure though!

I have done a 0.37BTC  deal with ndnhc and I had complete hold of ndnhc's 0.37 BTC , my rank was a member account with 98 activity and I sent him his money according to our deal Smiley! I am not saying "i am very trusted, You can send me the money blindly" but I mean trusting me when I PM'ed marco about it musn't be a problem at all Smiley
I don't care about your prior deals. I care about protecting myself. My conditions would allow me to protect myself.  If you could agree to my conditions then I could most likely fill your loan and your account would be returned to you assuming you repay your loan prior to when your signature campaign pays out.

Funding a no collateral loan is very risky in every situation.
you are right that a no collateral loan is full of risk but I am thinking what will sig.campaing pay it they dont find posts with his account I mean to say if he gives his account as colletral then he will not get payed by signature campaing
Your post doesn't even make any sense. But yes I am correct. No lender should fund any loan to you without sufficient collateral. Your account (provided you can provide a signed message confirming ownership) would be sufficient collateral, but anything less then that would not be
11055  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a loan 0.06 BTC, 0.005 BTC interest! on: April 19, 2015, 05:45:35 AM
Why don't you give your account as collateral and allow the lender to change the payout address of the signature earnings.  Then the lender would get both the account and your earnings when (not if) you default on your loan.

Then if your were to repay the loan you would get the signature earnings back along with your account. Either way the lender would profit.

I really don't like providing this account as collateral because this is the only one account I have in Btctalk and which I use. I don't think its possible to change address for the Bit-x camapaign! I am not sure though!

I have done a 0.37BTC  deal with ndnhc and I had complete hold of ndnhc's 0.37 BTC , my rank was a member account with 98 activity and I sent him his money according to our deal Smiley! I am not saying "i am very trusted, You can send me the money blindly" but I mean trusting me when I PM'ed marco about it musn't be a problem at all Smiley
I don't care about your prior deals. I care about protecting myself. My conditions would allow me to protect myself.  If you could agree to my conditions then I could most likely fill your loan and your account would be returned to you assuming you repay your loan prior to when your signature campaign pays out.

Funding a no collateral loan is very risky in every situation.
11056  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 1 Loan on: April 19, 2015, 05:28:30 AM
Will repay 1.04 on july 1st from sig payment. I will tell my home address it guarantees me.

my addy 1JeNPjKdqnZpd9RNR8CwqcyCVLbDWeG37W

thanks Smiley

denied. Negative trust.
11057  Economy / Lending / Re: Need a loan 0.06 BTC, 0.005 BTC interest! on: April 19, 2015, 05:24:54 AM
Why don't you give your account as collateral and allow the lender to change the payout address of the signature earnings.  Then the lender would get both the account and your earnings when (not if) you default on your loan.

Then if your were to repay the loan you would get the signature earnings back along with your account. Either way the lender would profit.
11058  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Starbucks Credit Cheap on: April 19, 2015, 05:06:10 AM
Why would they stop working? If its paid for theres no reason for that, what's a good amount of time to wait so I can prove to you the card is legit? I might have another seller that will buy now but I will be willing to do that in the future if I haven't used them or given them to friends. I think its overpriced too which is why I don't have a need for them lol
like I said, if you are willing to sell them for that little then most people would be willing to just use them themselves.

A good amount of time for an escrow to hold funds would be as long as a potential buyer takes to spend funds in a store. If a buyer is buying a $25 gift card then it should take a week or so, if they buy a larger gift card then it should take $25 per week to spend. If the cards go bad before being able to spend the entire balance then funds should be returned to the buyer.
11059  Economy / Auctions / Re: Ten accounts for auction | Ownership proved | never banned on: April 19, 2015, 05:01:27 AM
May i know the post quality of @10 before making any bid?

Games and rounds      114
Off-topic      10
Gambling      6
Goods      2
Bitcoin Discussion      1
Beginners & Help      1
Altcoin Discussion      1
Auctions      1
Digital goods


Posts are in gambling section or giveaways so you can understand the post quality


If the majority of the account is from the games and rounds section, would you consider lowering the price?
This probably would be a good idea. This many posts in the games&rounds section signals a very low quality post history and the chances are high that someone would have difficulty getting into a sig campaign without first making a good number of high quality posts (for free aka not wearing a signature) before they can get in one.

I am fairly certain that you were not the one who was participating in these giveaways however I really do not like people who farm via giveaway threads like that as they are really milking giveaways from other people


Please red clearly above where i have stted in bold letters that all account except #10 have posted in Beginers and help
And no , i didn't participated in the giveaways in account #10 by myself ,i bought it some days ago
like I said, any account with this kind of history has less of a value then accounts that have a stronger post history. Assuming that the other 9 accounts have a stronger post history then I would suggest enrolling #10 in a campaign like bitmixer and making ~50-100 posts that clearly have a good amount of effort put into them and then selling it.
11060  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Starbucks Credit Cheap on: April 19, 2015, 04:57:33 AM
Yes I have been collecting them for a while now sinice I started earning money online back in high school 5 years ago. I wouldn't sell amazon for that cause it goes for more but a source on thebotnet told me its going for 20. There is no ring of scammers, its not a scam, I have the money and I just want to sell it. As I said, I go first so you know the money goes through.
right. Lol. Collecting. "Not a scam"

Like I said anyone buying from the OP is going to get scammed when the gift cards stop working.

I personally think Starbucks coffee is way overpriced however if I had the choice between selling their gift card for <.20 on the dollar and actually spending their gift cards then I would gladly spend their gift cards.
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