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11061  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: February 13, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
A little past the halfway point at 1062 blocks, and we are roughly 31 blocks "ahead". Based on cryptothis, that translates to a 2.4% to 3.1% increase by late mid-day on Friday.

BTC price is still good at $47,976. The new level bubble continues to hold, but not inflating much.

I fixed this for you.

I want to get into the last 3 jumps we were close to 10% at block 500 and dropped to 2-4%. It does suggest a large farm changing up hash rate.  Mine hard early then back off.

But like Mikey said we are at the 160-165eh level.

So 10% is 16.5 eh
and 3 % is  4.95 eh

so shift that much hash up and down makes no sense

If you control 50eh and shift to 40eh back to 50eh at next jump makes sense, but I don't think anyone has that much hashrate.

I wonder how big viabtc cloud mining is along with bitmain cloud mining. They announced a joint business venture right when this patteren began to  occur.

If  it is those two cloud farms  it could be as low as 30eh drifting down to 20eh then back up to 30eh for first 670 blocks.

Since they don't pay for the gear investors do they would be getting about 10eh extra for 1/3 the diff jump.

Or 3.33 eh every day just for power cost of say 4 cents.

I will keep looking at pattern to see if it repeats.  pretend it is all s19pro set to 80th vs 110th

10x         = .80ph- 1.10ph
100x       =    8ph-  11.0ph
1000x     =   80ph- 110ph
10000x   = 800ph- 1.10eh
100000x = 8.00eh- 11.00eh this is a bit too small for the pattern.

200000x =16.00eh-22.00eh. this almost fits the pattern.  

It would need to be all their cloud mining combined and they would be skimming (legally)  3eh to 6eh for 1/3 of each jump. or 1eh to 2eh at 47000 a coin it is about.

at 30 cent a th
we get to

$.30 = 1th
$3.00 = 10 th
$30.00 = 100th
$300.00 = 1ph
$3000.00 =10ph
$30,000.00 = 100ph
$300,000.00 = 1eh
$600,000.00 = 2eh

so if they have 16eh set to low
and 22eh set to high they could earn 300,000- 600,000 a day doing this idea.  minus power cost of say 4 cents a kwatt

And still be fulfilling the cloud contracts.

This gives them a real incentive to not sell gear and keep diff low.

power at high speed is 660000  kwatts a day
power at low speed is  352,000 kwatts a day

if they do this for 4 days it costs 12,300 x 4 = about $50,000
if they do this for 5 days it costs 12,300 x 5 = about $62,000 for whole jump

and they earn 600,000 average every day or 8,400,000 earned for 62,000 in power.

 while fulfilling the cloud contracts.

so 8.3 mill for 26 jumps = 215.80 million above  and beyond the cloud mining standard profits for them.
11062  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 13, 2021, 05:02:12 AM

I'm probably late, but.. we did it !  Cool




I am slow.

What does this mean...?

Give it to me straight.


It means that it is still early days. You need to pay 21 bitcoins for a million dollars.

Fuck that.  No way would I give 21 BTC for a paltry million bucks.  That's like buying wampum with gold.

For some it would be the correct thing to do.  For others it would be a  really stupid thing to do.
11063  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 12, 2021, 11:09:59 PM
for win10, there is a tool, I have Wub v1.1, it just stops the updates at the source


link

https://youtu.be/Z11axXu_oiY

do you do this?
11064  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: February 12, 2021, 10:34:17 PM
4 in a row at the top, all February.

Let's keep the new streak alive tomorrow.

 we are close it could happen
11065  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 12, 2021, 10:31:35 PM
yeah bots may be the way of the future.

Getting cards is really hard. No indication of them coming out and being available.
11066  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best option? 2 little psu or one big on: February 12, 2021, 10:26:16 PM
Well the evga super nova is in usa amazon maybe the op can not buy from the usa amazon

 https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-G5-1000-X1/dp/B07WMTD41Z/ref=sr_1_1?

the pcie cables are 8pin and 6p which needs an adapter to work for 3070


the seasonic 1000watt is 259

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-GX-1000-Full-Modular-Application-SSR-1000FX/dp/B07WVWJW8N/ref=sr_1_1?

the seasonic 850 watt is 129

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Semi-Modular-Systems-Warranty-Application/dp/B084TSBB2R/ref=sr_1_1?

semi-moduler

2x the price for 150 watts is a rip off.



I do think you found him a 1200 watt they is good if he can buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Toughpower-Modular-Warranty-PS-TPD-1200MPCGUS-1/dp/B00LZVOK18/ref=sr_1_3?
@philipima1957 so 6pin to 8pin cable do works? Why are people taking about fire here and there then? I knew 6pin connector is cable of powering a 8pin gpu with plug extension, pls confirm this for me, am I right or wrong?

this cable may work

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-6-Pin-Adapter/dp/B01DV1Z32Y/ref=sr_1_3?


may not.  I give it 95% on a 3070 if you set watts to 150 or less.

I would never use it on a 3090.  As they can pull tons of power.



I never melted gpu pcie cables of any psu mining if attached to gpus.
I have melted pcie cables attached to asic miners.

I have melted pico adapters attached to server psu's mining with gpus
I have melted sata to riser cables mining with gpu's
I have melted molex to riser cable mining with gpus's

been mining with gpus for 9 years (hard to believe it is that long)


If I were op I would look for the  thermal take.  but I very likely would just run 2 mobos  rather than 1 six card.

the money is in the 3070's the other stuff is less important.


I would do a 850 watt seasonic focus 2 gpus 1 mobo

I would do a 1200 watt thermal take  4 gpus 1 mobo

rather than muscle a six card mobo.

Logic is cards are safer in 2 rigs from a total disaster.

As we all know getting cards is crazy hard to do.
I guess the cable will work perfectly ok on cards that draw less wattage like gtx1660 Ti or super, I won't dare use it on a big card like RTX 3080/3090, not safe IMO I believe this can really make the fire wish come true 🤣

all cards can sometimes go runaway thermal.  That is they can say fuck you to the power settings and pull every fucking watt they can take.

Happens more on windows than on linux

happens with amd and or nvidia.

I run 1 3060ti in my main window rig. It is set to nicehash and uses msiafterburner set to 125 watts.

It has 2  connections a six and an eight.  it is an aorus master a high end 3060ti model and at least one a week it drops settings and goes to 195 watts same hash but hard on the gear as it is 70 extra watts.

I would be afraid if a 3080 does this. Set to 220 watts and jumps to 325 watts.

with the cards being so very valuable why risk 2 plus on one mobo

separate mobos with separate psu's is a better choice.

mostly due to lack of good psu deals and the value of the cards.

you would kick your self in the butt if you blend 2 850 watt psus and burn the rig out.
It can happen.
11067  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 12, 2021, 03:57:43 PM
are you looking at laptops too?  Grin

no I think they would not have resale. That the omen will.

I sell a lot of gently used gpus.

At 1320 if I earn 600 with this in 100 days.  I could likely sell it for 1000 which is about 250 profit.
11068  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 12, 2021, 03:05:56 PM
Just want to share something here phil

I was using windows 10 for mining, since ever, only tried mining os for a few times, but always got back to windows
But last week my system started to crash without any reason, it was working 24/7 without any issue

Rig with: 5600xt, 5700, 5700xt, 3070 and 1660super
I made everything i recommend to people  Cheesy - drivers, card position on mobo, risers, cables etc

But now I decided to gave a chance to HiveOS, put on an SSD, configured on website and voila, my system are now stable for some days, without any issue, it's just hard to undestand the overclock on linux coming from windows, but it's really good to have everything stable again

Maybe I'll try simplemining on my secondary rig

I suspect windows 10 updates messed with my miners, and this is annoying because I blocked everything, but windows always find his ways to update  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

hiveos (and probably other linux based os) is hands down better than windows at running amd rigs. My amd rigs go down maybe once a week but hiveos always reboots and recovers. Sometimes on windows, the whole system freezes at the bsod and you have to manually reset it

Yeah my smos (linux)  runs 100-200 days in a row at times zero issues.

I pulled the trigger on an omen pc. with a 3070 in it.

I paid 1357 - 40 = 1317 which is okay decent specs good psu. good nvme.2 It only has 8 gb ram but I have 2 of these sticks coming from the newegg shuffle

https://www.newegg.com/oloy-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821309?Item=N82E16820821309. they will look nice in the case.

if this earns 6 a day after power it pays off in 220 days.

a good chance I will sell this off in 6-8 months

11069  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 12, 2021, 01:58:45 PM
Just want to share something here phil

I was using windows 10 for mining, since ever, only tried mining os for a few times, but always got back to windows
But last week my system started to crash without any reason, it was working 24/7 without any issue

Rig with: 5600xt, 5700, 5700xt, 3070 and 1660super
I made everything i recommend to people  Cheesy - drivers, card position on mobo, risers, cables etc

But now I decided to gave a chance to HiveOS, put on an SSD, configured on website and voila, my system are now stable for some days, without any issue, it's just hard to undestand the overclock on linux coming from windows, but it's really good to have everything stable again

Maybe I'll try simplemining on my secondary rig

I suspect windows 10 updates messed with my miners, and this is annoying because I blocked everything, but windows always find his ways to update  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Windows is a sneaky mofo.

I have some ryzen rigs mining monero so they use nicehash and windows 10 as smos is not running ryzen cpu's

Those rigs are at home and crash over and over and over.  Due to up dates.




Gpu mining has spread a bit too much for me as I have

5 pc's in Lakewood nj -------------10 gpu's
8 pc's in my house ----------------12 gpu's
1 pc at buysolar's house ---------- 3 gpu's
7 pc's at the big farm in Clifton -- 30 gpu's

hard to track it all and multiple arrangements for power deals.

Right now gpu's are making so much I could run all of them at home even with my 13.7 cent power cost prior to heating savings.

all the ones above  are spilt differently.

I have a 3090 and a 3070 coming.

I am debating buying a fully assembled 3070 rig for 1350 six months to pay it off.
11070  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 12, 2021, 01:52:01 PM
Unless i have misunderstood you, and that the board powers a couple of slots off of the atx connector, you just plug in cables from your server psu. You dont use the pico to power any pcie. Infact it doesnt have a pcie output. The one in the pic is for 12v input - not an output.


My fault not yours that you don't understand the odna boards.

they have six inputs for the six slots on the board.

3 are molex and 3 are sata

you need to feed those inputs with sata and molex cables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMiByCbUpTY&t=15s

go to about 1:35
11071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best option? 2 little psu or one big on: February 12, 2021, 01:02:21 PM
Well the evga super nova is in usa amazon maybe the op can not buy from the usa amazon

 https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-G5-1000-X1/dp/B07WMTD41Z/ref=sr_1_1?

the pcie cables are 8pin and 6p which needs an adapter to work for 3070


the seasonic 1000watt is 259

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-GX-1000-Full-Modular-Application-SSR-1000FX/dp/B07WVWJW8N/ref=sr_1_1?

the seasonic 850 watt is 129

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Semi-Modular-Systems-Warranty-Application/dp/B084TSBB2R/ref=sr_1_1?

semi-moduler

2x the price for 150 watts is a rip off.



I do think you found him a 1200 watt they is good if he can buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Toughpower-Modular-Warranty-PS-TPD-1200MPCGUS-1/dp/B00LZVOK18/ref=sr_1_3?
@philipima1957 so 6pin to 8pin cable do works? Why are people taking about fire here and there then? I knew 6pin connector is cable of powering a 8pin gpu with plug extension, pls confirm this for me, am I right or wrong?

this cable may work

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-2-Pack-6-Pin-Adapter/dp/B01DV1Z32Y/ref=sr_1_3?


may not.  I give it 95% on a 3070 if you set watts to 150 or less.

I would never use it on a 3090.  As they can pull tons of power.



I never melted gpu pcie cables of any psu mining if attached to gpus.
I have melted pcie cables attached to asic miners.

I have melted pico adapters attached to server psu's mining with gpus
I have melted sata to riser cables mining with gpu's
I have melted molex to riser cable mining with gpus's

been mining with gpus for 9 years (hard to believe it is that long)


If I were op I would look for the  thermal take.  but I very likely would just run 2 mobos  rather than 1 six card.

the money is in the 3070's the other stuff is less important.


I would do a 850 watt seasonic focus 2 gpus 1 mobo

I would do a 1200 watt thermal take  4 gpus 1 mobo

rather than muscle a six card mobo.

Logic is cards are safer in 2 rigs from a total disaster.

As we all know getting cards is crazy hard to do.
11072  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best option? 2 little psu or one big on: February 12, 2021, 12:51:07 PM
Well the evga super nova is in usa amazon maybe the op can not buy from the usa amazon

 https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-G5-1000-X1/dp/B07WMTD41Z/ref=sr_1_1?

the pcie cables are 8pin and 6p which needs an adapter to work for 3070


the seasonic 1000watt is 259

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-GX-1000-Full-Modular-Application-SSR-1000FX/dp/B07WVWJW8N/ref=sr_1_1?

the seasonic 850 watt is 129

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Semi-Modular-Systems-Warranty-Application/dp/B084TSBB2R/ref=sr_1_1?

semi-moduler

2x the price for 150 watts is a rip off.



I do think you found him a 1200 watt they is good if he can buy it.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Toughpower-Modular-Warranty-PS-TPD-1200MPCGUS-1/dp/B00LZVOK18/ref=sr_1_3?

it has proper pcie cables in that they are all 8pin so no adapters.
11073  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Problems with T17s from Alibaba on: February 12, 2021, 12:34:53 PM
1st image shows

Code:
2021-02-12 08:42:25 driver-btm-api.c:1939:bitmain_board_init: Fan check passed.
2021-02-12 08:42:26 board.c:36:jump_and_app_check_restore_pic: chain[0] PIC jump to app
2021-02-12 08:42:30 board.c:40:jump_and_app_check_restore_pic: Check chain[0] PIC fw version=0xb9
2021-02-12 08:42:31 board.c:36:jump_and_app_check_restore_pic: chain[1] PIC jump to app
2021-02-12 08:42:35 board.c:40:jump_and_app_check_restore_pic: Check chain[1] PIC fw version=0xb9
2021-02-12 08:42:37 board.c:36:jump_and_app_check_restore_pic: chain[2] PIC jump to app
2021-02-12 08:42:40 board.c:40:jump_and_app_check_restore_pic: Check chain[2] PIC fw version=0xb9
2021-02-12 08:42:40 thread.c:880:create_pic_heart_beat_thread: create thread
2021-02-12 08:42:40 power_api.c:55:power_init: power init ...
2021-02-12 08:42:40 driver-btm-api.c:1949:bitmain_board_init: Enter 30s sleep to make sure power release finish.
2021-02-12 08:42:40 power_api.c:46:power_off: init gpio907

at this point did it die or do more.

second image is it the second unit?

it shows

Code:
2021-02-12 09:06:24 temperature.c:697:get_temp_info: read temp sensor failed: chain = 0, sensor = 3, chip = 184, reg = 1
2021-02-12 09:06:27 temperature.c:697:get_temp_info: read temp sensor failed: chain = 0, sensor = 3, chip = 184, reg = 0
2021-02-12 09:06:27 temperature.c:697:get_temp_info: read temp sensor failed: chain = 0, sensor = 3, chip = 184, reg = 1
2021-02-12 09:06:29 temperature.c:697:get_temp_info: read temp sensor failed: chain = 0, sensor = 3, chip = 184, reg = 1
2021-02-12 09:06:32 temperature.c:697:get_temp_info: read temp sensor failed: chain = 0, sensor = 3, chip = 184, reg = 0

that is likely a bad board.

third image is this third unit?

Code:
2021-02-12 09:23:43 power_api.c:86:get_average_voltage: chain[0], voltage is: 5.020898
2021-02-12 09:23:44 power_api.c:86:get_average_voltage: chain[1], voltage is: 5.069883
2021-02-12 09:23:46 power_api.c:86:get_average_voltage: chain[2], voltage is: 5.094375
2021-02-12 09:23:46 power_api.c:97:get_average_voltage: aveage voltage is: 5.061719
2021-02-12 09:23:46 power_api.c:110:check_voltage: target_vol = 17.00, actural_vol = 5.06, more than 1.0v diff.
2021-02-12 09:23:47 power_api.c:124:check_voltage_multi: retry time: 29
2021-02-12 09:23:49 power_api.c:86:get_average_voltage: chain[0], voltage is: 5.118867
2021-02-12 09:23:52 power_api.c:86:get_average_voltage: chain[1], voltage is: 5.045391
2021-02-12 09:23:55 power_api.c:86:get_average_voltage: chain[2], voltage is: 4.965791
2021-02-12 09:23:55 power_api.c:97:get_average_voltage: aveage voltage is: 5.043350
2021-02-12 09:23:55 power_api.c:110:check_voltage: target_vol = 17.00, actural_vol = 5.04, more than 1.0v diff.
2021-02-12 09:23:56 power_api.c:182:set_iic_power_by_voltage: now set voltage to : 17.000000
2021-02-12 09:23:56 driver-btm-api.c:205:set_miner_status: ERROR_POWER_LOST
2021-02-12 09:23:56 driver-btm-api.c:146:stop_mining: stop mining: power set failed!
2021-02-12 09:23:56 thread.c:930:cancel_read_nonce_reg_thread: cancel thread
2021-02-12 09:23:56 driver-btm-api.c:131:killall_hashboard: ****power off hashboard****

this is certainly a bad psu.

good news is I think pulling a psu from unit 1 or unit 2 and putting it on unit 3 will get unit 3 to work.

on second unit pulling the dead board could work to give you 2 good boards in that unit.

on unit 1 I am not sure what is wrong with it.
11074  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 12, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
These pico psu are powered by server power supplies. So they can be use for riserless motherboards.

not so they simply can't provide enough power for a lot of slots

My boards use 6 cables for the slots 3 sata and 3 four pin molex

The pico can power 1 of the six slots. maybe 2.

I have built a few hundred mobos and melted more than one pico when trying to run riserless boards.
11075  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk said he bought Dogecoin on: February 12, 2021, 04:11:13 AM
He may have bought it but I don't think he expects a gain from it or any possible use case in the future. It has unlimited amount of supply and for it to just reach 1$ each, the market cap should be almost a trillion if my computation is correct. Its recent increase is just hype for me. I would rather buy other altcoins with the same price but has really good use case and has the potential to grow in the future.

no it would be worth 120 billion market cap if it were a dollar a coin not a trillion.
11076  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: February 12, 2021, 03:50:14 AM
We will forgive Japan for only letting It be 4 aces.

Meanwhile for the year we are
 Jan 31-0
 Feb 11-0

total 42-0

Lets meet back tomorrow and add to the streak.

I would like to see us get USD over 50K very soon.
11077  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2021, time for a new general & diff speculation thread... on: February 12, 2021, 12:04:22 AM
Yeah we could see the best year for mining ever this year. Also the best year for BTC.
11078  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: February 11, 2021, 11:35:30 PM
45K gap closed.

lets hope we will not close the 41, 42 and 44 gaps.  only "historic gap" unclosed remains @21k

since bitcoin denominated in USD will only lead to bigger figures, more and bigger gaps are to be expected in the future.

waiting for 5k wide gaps.  Grin

uh... i bet we will see a 10k gap during this run up around blow of top.



speaking of blow off tops: is it possible, that 2017 blow off top was reduced by the shitcoinery explosion back then? did shitcoins stole a proper blow off top that some expected to be around 40k (i did... Cry)

it would "explain" the local top at 41k some weeks ago. and it would mean, we are just starting a new bull cycle NOW  Wink

In the sense that nicehash failed maybe you are correct.

As nicehash churns shitcoins into btc
11079  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 11, 2021, 10:59:59 PM
Those adapters are good for riser mobos. as you do not pull power in the moboslots.

then odna are slotted boards you need to feed the slots with minimum of 3 separate cables from an atx psu.

I have gone multiple ways building:

8 and 13 card riser builds
2 card gamer/miner builds
6 slot boards
8 slot boards

My preferred board is an 8 slot board that just takes 6 pin pcie cables.  But I can't get it. It runs very well with bitmain apw3+ psu.  I have lots of apw3+ psu's

I am waiting on newegg shuffle I should get results soon.
Based on what people are telling me I am either super lucky or someone is looking out for me at newegg.

I have a source for a 3070 full pc almost as cheap as the Alienware  that sold out.

If I miss this shuffle I will get 1 or 2 of them.





11080  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: February 11, 2021, 06:50:46 PM
Managed to get my hands on a few 3090FE only to realise the cooling, while interesting looking, is not as good as the cheapest aib i have.
So i decided to mod it  Cheesy
https://i.imgur.com/fq0TNAK.jpg

dropped temps from 110C to 84C. I'm now able to drop fan speed to 50% and removed the fan on the backplate. The heatsink still gets burning hot, so i might need to create a shroud on the rear fan and channel it through the heatsink.

fwiw, heatsink used is an led/amplifier aluminium heatsink, 200mmx86x22. I used cheap arctic 1.5mm thermal pads to clear the hump on the backplate

Nice mod.


Oh the shuffle is up.

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

they have an evga gpu

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3070-08g-p5-3767-kr/p/N82E16814487532?Item=N82E16814487532

and some ryzen 5000 series cpu's
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