As title suggest. Also after each bid after the 7th hour only .01 will be excepted per bid. Also for every bid in the 7th hour 2 minutes will be added to the end of the timer so other will get a chance to bid. Winner will be announced after 30 mins from the last bid at the end. Please note if you send payment first i will send coins right after but as always i will suggest escrow. If you choose escrow you as the buyer pays the fee. I will be using Quickseller, as the escrow person unless you have someone else or he bids on this auction as well...  Happy Bidding. I have not actually been contacted to escrow this auction, however I would be willing to. I will PGP sign any payment address to send bitcoin to. he bids on this auction as well... I don't think I am going to bid on this auction. |
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If you are selling the collateral then why should anyone believe that this loan is not disguised as a loan but is really a sale? It is generally frowned upon to use something you are trying to sell as collateral. I wouldn't be selling it for that price! .4 btc doesn't come close the default value of the items is at least 200 USD, but worth more like $1000 if sold to other players. A lot of the items are rare. I honestly cannot tell you the market price is for those items. I do however think that trying to use them as collateral will make it more difficult to sell those items because people may think that you are trying to sell them via this loan for .4 BTC. Sure, I get that. I'm not actively trying to sell the items anymore, might remove that post actually, just so there's no confusion. Plus the account & its skills are also valuable. I was about to post in your thread just before I noticed your post here.I would not accept that as collateral. |
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If you are selling the collateral then why should anyone believe that this loan is not disguised as a loan but is really a sale? It is generally frowned upon to use something you are trying to sell as collateral. I wouldn't be selling it for that price! .4 btc doesn't come close the default value of the items is at least 200 USD, but worth more like $1000 if sold to other players. A lot of the items are rare. I honestly cannot tell you the market price is for those items. I do however think that trying to use them as collateral will make it more difficult to sell those items because people may think that you are trying to sell them via this loan for .4 BTC. |
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If you are selling the collateral then why should anyone believe that this loan is not disguised as a loan but is really a sale? It is generally frowned upon to use something you are trying to sell as collateral. |
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I recently received a subpoena related to a case against BFL (Case No. 14-CV-2159-KHV-JPO). I had to release all database info on a few employees/ex-employees of BFL (including their PMs), plus a complete copy of every thread in which anyone mentioned BFL or in which a BFL employee participated. (It was a huge hassle to put all of this info together.) The subpoena originally demanded all PMs that even mentioned BFL, which is ridiculous, but I managed to get this part eliminated.
If a PM of yours was released due to this, then I already sent you a PM about it.
I don't think that I'm going to send PMs about deleted posts that were released. 3196 users had deleted posts released, and I don't really want to send that many PMs when almost no one would care. I feel like people should have basically no expectation of privacy for something that they posted publicly anyway.
I also released all "report to moderator" reports involving or mentioning BFL. I don't think that these are very sensitive, so I'm not going to send out PMs about these.
I wonder how do they send you Subpoena ? Does not it require to have your physical address ? But, do they have it ? What would they have done if BitcoinTalk owner were not located in USA ? Sending Subpoena to forum admins appear ridiculous to me. Conversations are all open in public. They can directly collect their info from there. And how would they verify whether you are sending them correct PMs or not ? How can this become an evidence in a judicial process ? They mostly needed official business records from theymos not what can be accessed publicly. Also they needed a lot of PM's as well as deleted posts. They most likely emailed him the subpoena, at least that is how they served him the DPR subpoena It doesn't stop at the subpoena. I had to go to court for an employer as the custodian of records. I was required to sign an affidavit certifying the records I presented were true and correct and testify to that in open court. I hope theymos has some free time blocked out in the future. If they use those records to support their case he'll need it. IIRC the DPR subpoena required theymos to appear in court, however it gave him the option to sign a affidavit saying essentially that the records he provided were true and correct copies of the business records; I don't think there would be any reason why it would be different in this case. If either party wanted to dispute the completeness of what was provided or wanted to dispute anything that was provided was actually a true and correct copy of the forum's records then he would need to testify (or if either party wanted to otherwise dispute what was provided). I would say there is a pretty good chance that theymos won't need to personally appear, or if he does it will most likely only be for a disposition. I would say the BFL case(s) will most likely get settled out of court (and plea agreements will be reached for criminal cases) |
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Seems like you started a lending service to other users here in this forum. I'm hoping for your success and may you not encounter people who aren't good on their word.Good luck on the lending service! Hope you prosper in this thing. Redsn0w has made some mistakes in the past regarding his escrow services however he does seem know how to protect himself in the lending section. As he said above he is only giving loans when valid collateral is offered so someone not repaying is really not his problem. I am fairly confident that scammers will leave this thread alone as they will hopefully quickly see that a he won't fall for any kind of BS scam. This is similar to my lending thread as I get very few scam attempts as scammers know that I know how to spot what is properly valued and accept collateral accordingly. |
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Campaign Wallet: 1Jz4ks3tdXfHp6WpChqB6m9XA8ME1PpcsU
Signature: HAjmV4iC7ZKKivbQ48xs5Vyodoksal6HOAAYjaGaxHdkZIrOzBPcMqAM+dpzrTJWiX+xHZme0jRFMdUYYA136K4=
What message exactly did you sign? The address that you gave has 50 BTC in it which is somewhat on the high side for a signature campaign. Also the last tx into that address was over two months ago which is also somewhat strange. |
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I recently received a subpoena related to a case against BFL (Case No. 14-CV-2159-KHV-JPO). I had to release all database info on a few employees/ex-employees of BFL (including their PMs), plus a complete copy of every thread in which anyone mentioned BFL or in which a BFL employee participated. (It was a huge hassle to put all of this info together.) The subpoena originally demanded all PMs that even mentioned BFL, which is ridiculous, but I managed to get this part eliminated.
If a PM of yours was released due to this, then I already sent you a PM about it.
I don't think that I'm going to send PMs about deleted posts that were released. 3196 users had deleted posts released, and I don't really want to send that many PMs when almost no one would care. I feel like people should have basically no expectation of privacy for something that they posted publicly anyway.
I also released all "report to moderator" reports involving or mentioning BFL. I don't think that these are very sensitive, so I'm not going to send out PMs about these.
I wonder how do they send you Subpoena ? Does not it require to have your physical address ? But, do they have it ? What would they have done if BitcoinTalk owner were not located in USA ? Sending Subpoena to forum admins appear ridiculous to me. Conversations are all open in public. They can directly collect their info from there. And how would they verify whether you are sending them correct PMs or not ? How can this become an evidence in a judicial process ? They mostly needed official business records from theymos not what can be accessed publicly. Also they needed a lot of PM's as well as deleted posts. They most likely emailed him the subpoena, at least that is how they served him the DPR subpoena |
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Just to let anyone know who is considering buying the account from yoloking - the account in question is banned so it would probably not be a good idea to make an offer to buy the account
The account is Lan**op so are you sure its banned? Yes I am sure. He tried to use it as collateral for a loan, he gave me the password and I saw that it was banned for 60 days, starting at the earliest on april 11 |
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No asking price. Just listening to offers.
Then i should try giving .15 as my offer .15 BTC is probably too low for a senior level account. In the past full member accounts have gone for that much, however they will probably go for a little less now. A low level senior would previously go for at least .4 BTC and would probably go for at least .33 now, and prices for a 300+ senior would be somewhat higher then a low level senior. I would personally put a fair price on this account at least .33 however it is a free market and it really depends on how desperate the OP is for money |
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I was making at least 150 posts per week and the last two weeks had made close to 200 posts. I had been asking for higher posting limits for a while too  I really don't see why anyone would need to make 100 posts per week much less 200 posts. To me, that seems rather unnecessary and looks as though you do it just for signature money. There are hero/legendary members who don't post nearly half as much. Apparently, ndnhc and marco have you on a pedestal. Since your posts are "super" constructive, why not apply for a moderator/staff position here? I look forward to your 200+ posts per week O' wise one! He was probably making close to or around that before he even joined any sig campaigns. He just advertised his own thread up until a month or so ago. I don't see the correlation between how many posts a Hero or Legendary makes either, and you don't apply to become staff, you get asked if you report a lot of posts and are very active (which he is so maybe he will eventually). When i have read your post i thought that posting often in the same thread doesnt make much sense marketing wise. You want the signature being seen by many users, not 20 times by the same user. Saying that, most users dont check threads every hour, they check a thread once every day or every two days. Of course i dont speak about the addicted ones.  So when a user is posting 5 posts in the same thread in one day then its worth is diminished. The ad will be seen by the reader again and again. Though its worth more that many different users see the ads. And you get that by being present in as many threads as possible. So that you can be sure that a user reading is seeing one. Showing him 20 doesnt make him more likely to play there. Saying that... dadice is present everywhere anywhere. I only thought it might make sense to think about that. I dont know if there are many users who post the majority of their posts in single threads. I was posting the same way that I was previously, however I was wearing the signature that advertised my sales thread. |
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The account is also banned. So I don't think he will be getting the loan either. So, the value dont go down.. After a month is unbanned and still worth same. But is he willing to give me the loan or not? I am waiting for a long time now. It is on a 60 day ban so it will be more then a month until it is unbanned. The last time it posted was april 11 so at the earliest it will be unbanned 2 months from that date. Plus you are evading your ban so there is a good chance that the ban will be made permanent for ban evasion Lender, still providing the loan? No? Give my account back. I am going to have to decline to act as escrow for your account. I am not willing to hold a banned account as collateral. It will be up to the lender as to if he is willing to give you the loan I have not changed the password so if you want the account back the password is still the same as when you gave it to me |
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The account is also banned. So I don't think he will be getting the loan either. So, the value dont go down.. After a month is unbanned and still worth same. But is he willing to give me the loan or not? I am waiting for a long time now. It is on a 60 day ban so it will be more then a month until it is unbanned. The last time it posted was april 11 so at the earliest it will be unbanned 2 months from that date. Plus you are evading your ban so there is a good chance that the ban will be made permanent for ban evasion |
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Just to let anyone know who is considering buying the account from yoloking - the account in question is banned so it would probably not be a good idea to make an offer to buy the account
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The account is also banned. So I don't think he will be getting the loan either. |
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@ Quickseller would you escrow the account for me?
Also what is you % you are offering Yolo and for how long?
Sure I can escrow the account for you. Just send me a PM and I will write up an escrow agreement. My fee is .0075 BTC or 1%, whichever is greater and is payable in advance. Joebrann I have sent you what I understand to be the terms of the loan. If you can confirm your acceptance then I will take control of the collateral. |
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Loan request as per pm. Ammount: 1btc Pay back within 7 days 1.2 btc Collateral is this account Signing old address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504251.msg10086266#msg10086266Address: 1ADTYgpibx6s8ri4mPm8Y9NbzNfH2L5ffj Message: This is IronMarvel from bitcointalk today is 17th of april 2015 I am requesting a loan from quickseller in the amount of 1 BTC to be funded to 1HwYCNDJEp5CtgAC688hNYWSTTBcTNvLw4 and 1.2 will be repaid to quickseller by 25th of april 2015. I will use my account as collateral and in the event the loan is not repaid by the due date my account will become the property of quickseller Signature: IHFCaUdNdJ5plLxsyoCW5lHsHbs/u/Rn31lolwXTcl+HcRa2oMZVPyxBY2O0WVM9XMmcnDlgUc1vjKGhjs0w/S4= Please send 1 btc to: 1HwYCNDJEp5CtgAC688hNYWSTTBcTNvLw4 That address is only 5 months old. His account was hacked previously and controlled the address prior to the hack. I have confirmed that he is the proper owner of the account |
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Incredibly useful thread, thanks
Im looking for a campaign with the following features:
1) no phone verification BS
2) paid directly to your bitcoin address
3) automatically re-enrolled (no stress to constantly think you'll lose your spot next week/month
4) ideally automated payments where you can keep a record of your payments (I dont get why every single campaing isn't doing this already)
What would you recommend me? The current im at (bit-x) has decent payment rates, definitely more worth your time than Bitmixer which is stuck with the 0.0007 for everyone regardless range... but they do not force you to register in an exchange and a pay a commission everytime you withdraw, plus you have to use your phone everytime you log in (wtf)
Im looking at Da Dice right now, solid rates, better than Bitmixer and Bit-x, but I dont know if once you are in you need to re enroll or you are safe. Also they seem to not have automatic payment system..
Also have in mind i post around 6-8 post daily on average and not more
please recommend me something, specially now that i'll be Sr Member soon i would like to join the best campaing possible
thanks
Sure. Da Dice satisfies the first 3 conditions. If you want to keep track of payments, in terms of btc, simply check up blockchain, in terms of posts it is there in the spreadsheet Archves, but it will take a little time unless you use the ctrl+F feature. You will of-course be auto-enrolled every week till you opt out. That said, you will get kicked out if your post quality sucks. (or if someone catches you with a different sig) Cheers  P.S. There are also be other campaigns that offer some or many of the things you are looking for. Feel free to check them out in the OP. Edit: For 6 to 8 posts a day, pay per post campaign will be a better option. This definitely sounds good, me and some mates will probably move there asap. I would still love to see the automation system bit-x/bitmixer style in the future tho The payments are exactly 7 days after enrolling automated, or a person does the payments manually? because i like to know at what hour exactly i will get paid, coz I like to time it and have the btc arrive on my phone right on friday night where i can spend it on the street (i've found lots of places that accept btc lately). I was able to do this with bitmixer (to know exactly when the payment arrives) and i think bit-x does this too because its also automated. For DaDice, payments actually go out on Tues/Wed and are done manually. The reason for the manual payments is to allow the campaign manager to review the posts and determine if the post quality is high enough to deserve payment. Well that is definitely a negative againt bitmixer and bit-x, thanks for input. Also, you guys sure you don't need to re-enroll for DaDice? because i just looked and I saw a guy re-enrolling after a week: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973949.msg11095929#msg11095929I am sure you do not need to reenroll for da dice. I was in their campaign for around a month or so and never had to reenroll. It is not the standard practice to do this so some people post their post count anyway, but the campaign manger keeps track of it for you |
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Well with blockchain.info/wallet if your password is compromised then you can simply move your funds to another address that is not compromised (hell you can create a new bc.i wallet with a better password). With having a private key that is decrypted in the browser if your password is compromised and the password protected private key is stored by the forum (I think it would have to be) then it would not be possible to protect the privacy of your PM's. If your password is compromised, it is possible to change it. One way of doing this is to generate a random master key, which is actually the key that decrypts the PM's, and encrypt the master key with a password. So how it works is you open your Inbox, bitcointalk sends your browser your encrypted master key and encrypted PM's, you type in your password, your master key is decrypted using the password and then the PM's are decrypted using the master key. If your password is compromised you can change it, all you need to do is re-encrypt the master key with the new password, however should you ever forget the current password your PM's are gone unless you have another way of recovering your unencrypted master key. This is similar to how it works with PGP. You would need to trust the forum enough to delete the version of your master key with your old password when you change your password. If the forum's servers are ever compromised then an attacker could download the master key's with their current password. Another possibility would be that theymos could be compelled to keep copies of old versions of the master keys by the government so the effect of changing your password would be that either password would work to decrypt your PM's If the passphrase to my PGP private key is compromised (but not the private key itself) then I can simply change the passphrase to my PGP private key (I think this is possible- you could have it temporarily in decrypted format then re-encrypt it with a new passphrase (then obviously securely delete all old copies of your PGP private key). My opinion is that PGP should really only be used of private information. Automatically PGP encrypting PM's is not a good idea, you should really only PGP encrypt PM's that actual private information. The reason for this is that if the receipient's PC is ever compromised, if they are unlocking their private key everyday to read their PM's then the malware can easily keylog them, however if they are only unlocking their PGP once every month or two to decrypt private information, there is a greater chance that the recipient will discover the keylogger before they unlock the private key. Well if something is sent via PM then they are by default trying to achieve at least a small amount of privacy above posting publicly. This would be somewhat of a pain however you could store your PGP key on an offline computer and transfer any encrypted messages to your offline computer anytime you receive a PM. Another option would be to designate different keys as being for different levels of sensitivity and people who cannot respect that will not have their PM's read. If you reserve PGP use for only sensitive information then an attacker would only need to look to people who have sent/received PGP encrypted messages in the past to look for potentially sensitive information that could be of value. It is probably not very secure to have the forum encrypt messages for you as if it is compromised then it could also encrypt it to a third key who you did not intend it to be encrypted to. People also use their PGP keys for other purposes too like signing code, and this puts their key at more risk. Any code signing key should be kept offline and should be separate from your other PGP keys. I don't think someone should even try to decrypt something encrypted to their code signing key as if a code signing key is compromised then malware could easily be spread very quickly and very far. |
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Loan request as per pm. Ammount: 1btc Pay back within 7 days 1.2 btc Collateral is this account Signing old address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504251.msg10086266#msg10086266Address: 1ADTYgpibx6s8ri4mPm8Y9NbzNfH2L5ffj Message: This is IronMarvel from bitcointalk today is 17th of april 2015 I am requesting a loan from quickseller in the amount of 1 BTC to be funded to 1HwYCNDJEp5CtgAC688hNYWSTTBcTNvLw4 and 1.2 will be repaid to quickseller by 25th of april 2015. I will use my account as collateral and in the event the loan is not repaid by the due date my account will become the property of quickseller Signature: IHFCaUdNdJ5plLxsyoCW5lHsHbs/u/Rn31lolwXTcl+HcRa2oMZVPyxBY2O0WVM9XMmcnDlgUc1vjKGhjs0w/S4= Please send 1 btc to: 1HwYCNDJEp5CtgAC688hNYWSTTBcTNvLw4 Signature verified. Go ahead and send me your password and I will go ahead and fund the loan for you.
Loan request as per pm. Ammount: 1btc Pay back within 7 days 1.2 btc Collateral is this account Signing old address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504251.msg10086266#msg10086266Address: 1ADTYgpibx6s8ri4mPm8Y9NbzNfH2L5ffj Message: This is IronMarvel from bitcointalk today is 17th of april 2015 I am requesting a loan from quickseller in the amount of 1 BTC to be funded to 1HwYCNDJEp5CtgAC688hNYWSTTBcTNvLw4 and 1.2 will be repaid to quickseller by 25th of april 2015. I will use my account as collateral and in the event the loan is not repaid by the due date my account will become the property of quickseller Signature: IHFCaUdNdJ5plLxsyoCW5lHsHbs/u/Rn31lolwXTcl+HcRa2oMZVPyxBY2O0WVM9XMmcnDlgUc1vjKGhjs0w/S4= Please send 1 btc to: 1HwYCNDJEp5CtgAC688hNYWSTTBcTNvLw4 Signature verified. Go ahead and send me your password and I will go ahead and fund the loan for you. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 This is quickseller from bitcointalk today is april 17 2015 The loan to IronMarvel has been funded via TXID fb66d5e649db1ed32084a70d203824d01c128f26fd00ed8729a0c1fa0b5209c3 Please repay 1.2 BTC to 17T6LB55mn3yyQ2owJTLrDfTfnndr7oyhp by April 24 2015 A output of .01 BTC was sent to the above address as part of the TX that funded the loan. Thank you. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVMSlkAAoJEFMt0pDwvrUWxjYH/1KvFipi9Jm4fHR/tiejezFC f+QXcBC4RCg+1bFubHqq6q7SZ9IK60rgGsCBokyexIO/RfYGndxilJE+PinF5bEv hDG5vovnGJ4LV9ZbtyD5MnPVao/lg56bVhGch3a52+q3+ZrdOESyJ7Utwzdlz4M8 GD3BxOZN+3XHMhe8wi/W5HCvyzki/getjXAtfCK7oMzY3vR5d2A3a/vDdQIYCNil y6KwVHq09MBS3NlRSba1ysPemtQC2VF+4TMZXMCnLz7ZlgzkUz1AQ0padYDo7ikK nkoceXCA/0qyP+PKD4X4GzCd7fHu46j/+hBq9C+t5/yFq3kQkuShpbbnvxm4AlI= =39ho -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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