this should go to speculation, but i'm still in the fence of thinking that this is not going much above 300
until proven otherwise i want to be conservative, based on the past experiences
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not even sirius, from what i knew, know about the true identity of satoshi, they were collaborating via chat supposedly
i may think that they start to know each other via internet, in some sort of geek site, you can get to know about people easily on the web
i discovered for example a good programmer, that helped me with a renting bot
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until now, some of us can't really choose, we are forced to keep the bank, and try to use bitcoin as much as possible, and it's what i'm doing
when greater adoption will kick-in i'll begin to avoid bank slowly, until i can use 100% bitcoin, it's a slow tedious transaction...
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i would do under six confirmations, everything that is cheap enough, like you said sub 100 would be ideal
for everything else there are six confirmations, to paraphrase trh mastercard spot
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i rather by a very good bicycle like the race on, car are overrated, you don't need a car in the city
much more healthy in this way and less costly, no gasoline, warranty etc...
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the guy or group who is manipulating is watching this board, everytime we think that the 300 is near to be hit, we fall again ont he previous price
i only know one thing, bitcoin can't grow in value too much if there is no adoption, few groups of manipulators will not cut it
But who guy or group who can manipulate prices ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Although it is my feeling that there seems to be manipulating the price because it seems hard to bitcoin to reach 300. those that want more, it's clear, those that have 100k bitcoin, can manipualte what they want, there are exchange with low volume, that can be easily manipulated that's why you see some time, low value in some random exchange
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why we should trust cccb, with bitcoin i've learned that no one should be trusted, the perfect enviroment is build around a trustless system
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The price will go up when people least expect it.
basically never? because we are always expecting it to grow now, this is enforced by the halving
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i would like to add that bitcoin is not hackable while you send a transaction, with credit cards they can stel your credential on some website, or the owner can still your funds directly
it has happened in the past with some people, with bitcoin, this is obviously not possible
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the world is clearly moving into a more electronic era. Bitcoin is a superior electronic currency...
bitcoin need to embrace phisical shop too, if it want to expand it faster around the globe relying only on online shop can cut a big portion of adoption, prematurely
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I hope it does not happen in the region of Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, because at this time is in need paypal for my foreign transactions, like when to know that at this time paypal is the only site accounts that were able to connect with many banks in the whole world
no store accept bitcoin there? you can always buy online if you want, and anyway open bazar is coming, every9one around the wolrd will have a chance to buy stuff with bitcoin directly
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Hi and welcome to the forum! Glad to see someone with such an interesting story coming to this forum to learn about new trends of the world ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) In my opinion, unless you have unlimited or free power, you shouldn't mine bitcoin. Bitcoin now is the big guys' game though you have free electricity. There are still a lot of coin out there which use the same algo to bitcoin for you to try ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You can find more and more coins at the alternate currencies forum! Good luck on your journey! Are alt coins worth the time? I thought we were struggling to get BTC mainstream? no they are worth even less than bitcoin nowadays, they were worth a tons in the past, in the mania altcoin era, started with doge and up to end of 2014 but right now you can probably find 1 good every 1k dead coin, and their profit is not greater than bitcoin... Do any altcoins have the potential to become more valuable? Like will DNMs move to another coin in the future or something like that? monero is the only valuable one for now, because it has something that is worth using, the other are clone of it or clone of bitcoin i also like something like huntercoin, which offer gaming experience, but it seems that they are not attracting many new users
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guys please dont dump your coins. itll only lower the price ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) just keep believing in bitcoin its bound to go up. you've hodled this long, just keep hodling on already dumped some on the previous pump to 300, because i need to loan to my family, i'm about to buy again back, what i've dumped previously not much, just 16 btc
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Don't worry, it will go back down. Normal fluctuations.
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg911%2F3755%2F3RLhWY.gif&t=663&c=_LA4qNC2ufdN_A) well, no ... bro. volume of BUY is very unusual actually ... it was unusual in the same, way with the grexit drama, exactly the same way then we returned back to the first point i don't want to be pessimistic here, but you guys are falling again on the same trap, we need new investors to increase the price, the users base need to grow exponentially...
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I know everything is going fine and there it is going high but, I still believe it is too early to call it strong trend. Yes it shows "bull" sign and also, it is ok too be optimistic but be cautious.
But unlike previous march towards $300 levels, this time we can see a considerable huge volume of trading make this movement more sustainable than the previous ones. I personally believe this may continue further towards some big prices like $600 by year end. Nah, it will go back to where it came from. This is not it. This is not the big price increase we were waiting from. It's more likely that a few miners start manipulating again. I believe the big price increase will come next year, when the block debate is settled. The price is falling because too many people were waiting to sell. Once they sold what they want, we can make another attempt to break through the $300 level, which is a real challenge. i think it's because there is a group that is manipulating, always the same people involved, that's why you see always the same range as befoe if there were a new investors, wave, new fresh money, 300 would have been already broken
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the guy or group who is manipulating is watching this board, everytime we think that the 300 is near to be hit, we fall again ont he previous price
i only know one thing, bitcoin can't grow in value too much if there is no adoption, few groups of manipulators will not cut it
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as far as I understand, this doesn't mean BTC is a legal payment method. it just means that tx's aren't going to have extra taxes attached
well yes it's legal, because saying that bitcoin is vat-free, mean that it is regulated, or begin to be regulated, so you can use it, freerly
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i just lost several of my precious braincells reading OP (and his grammar wasn't the only reason) ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) what is worring me, is that he is not trolling, i think he is serious on the matter it's appear that he have a lot of confusion, due to altcoin and other stuff related to crypto in general
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Who really uses bitcoin- Ordinay folk like me, use btc to pay bills, buy prepaid cellphone loads, ordering stuff online, online gambling and change to fiat when in need.
Who is the typical bitcoin user- One who has knowledge about crypto, how it works and benefit the system.
Why does it matter- For bitcoin to grow, it needs mainstream adoption.
BTC won't be adopted; it's fishy, not regulated, slow and so on. The people likes regulations, safety, etc. BTC will remain for speculative trading, dark markets. It has no advantage over any traditional payment systems like debit/credit cards/bank wires and payment processors like Paypal. It's just "trendy" for now. Nothing more. The trend is for regulation(see the exchangers who are looking for licenses which means AML, KYC and GOVs rules in the end) and this will be the end of Bitcoin. Why? Because the dark market( over 85% from BTC) will leave this e-currency when it will be "regulated". yeah no advantages, like low fee, privacy, not-hackable while you spent a transaction, sure... with fiat if you leave your credid card credentials on some website they can still all your funds, with bitcoin it's impossible well, I may agree with you IF: - the debit/credit cards have ZERO fees for purchasing online and offline. - i would not read news regarding to hacking of the Bitcoin wallets all the time.. - i have to remember you the BTC wallets hacking is not a news anymore on the Bitcoin's market. It's a habit. everyday, a lot of wallets are hacked. so, tell me one advantage of using Bitcoin against traditional payment systems. do not tell me about privacy because it does not exist anymore. all the exchangers requires papers. the hacking about bitcoin, it's only because people don't know how to use their desktop i still have all my bitcoin here from two years already, no one has ever stolen them, and this is why? because i simply don't download random .exe form the web or surf malicious site credit card are at risk of hacking every day, they can clone your card easily nowadays, and steal everything before you can even be aware of it and block the card
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Even alt coin mining also not profitable in phone.
there were some coins that you can mine with cpu only, not even a strong cpu, if you're able to instamine them, it might be worth to do a try with a phone, but not sure on the profit i think, you cna earn more by resolving catpcha with faucet, unless this coin get big afterward
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